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Arkansas bird deaths

  • 04-01-2011 2:27pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭


    Anybody see it on the news? Thousands of birds fell out of the sky after dieing instantly. Nobody knows why but fireworks have been blamed. The birds were examined and it showed that they died by having blood clots.

    To me it sounds like some sort of energy beam struck them. Where it came from or what it was is anyones guess. Its no coincedence it happened in the USA.

    This same week it was reported in the sunday times that in an arab country (I forget which one) they're using weather machines designed by a Swiss company to try to change the weather and they have succeeded. So thats another conspiracy theory proven to be fact.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    not sure if this source is credible but it reports hundreds of blackbirds dead aswell in Louisiana:
    http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/112843019.html

    I remember seeing a documentry about something similar that happened in Africa, resulting in animal and bird deaths and possibly a village, that they thought was from the release of swamp gas, can't really remember it properly, could be something similar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    profitius wrote: »
    Anybody see it on the news? Thousands of birds fell out of the sky after dieing instantly. Nobody knows why but fireworks have been blamed. The birds were examined and it showed that they died by having blood clots.

    To me it sounds like some sort of energy beam struck them. Where it came from or what it was is anyones guess. Its no coincedence it happened in the USA.

    This same week it was reported in the sunday times that in an arab country (I forget which one) they're using weather machines designed by a Swiss company to try to change the weather and they have succeeded. So thats another conspiracy theory proven to be fact.
    Source for either of these reports, especially the Swiss weather machine?

    Also, what makes you think it's an energy beam and not dangerous chemicals or even chemtrails?
    Slota also declined to speculate on a cause for the deaths, but he said a search of USGS records shows there have been 16 events in the past 30 years involving blackbirds where at least 1,000 of the birds have died seemingly all at once.
    That's pretty interesting actually, did they blame those cases on "Underlying disease, starvation and cold fronts" too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    200 miles away (still Arkansas), hundreds of thousands of some breed of fish were found dead too. All other breeds of fish seem to be fine.

    All seems a little weird. They are probably unrelated though. They reckon the birds got a fright after some sort of explosion.

    gizmo wrote: »
    Source for either of these reports


    The bird thing was all over the news and radio.

    I'm sure during the last Olympics they used some technique to keep the sky clear? Weather machine of sorts...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Here's an article I found on USA Today:
    USA today wrote:
    A mysterious event that caused thousands of red-wing blackbirds to rain down from the sky New Year's Eve in the Arkansas town of Beebe may have occurred when loud noises or fireworks frightened a flock that roosts in a neighborhood, causing them to fly into buildings and other obstacles, a state ornithologist said.
    But others still think weather could have played a role.

    Preliminary necropsies on the dead birds by the state Livestock and Poultry Commission "showed trauma," said Karen Rowe, Arkansas Game and Fish Commission ornithologist. "The birds obviously hit something very hard and had hemorrhages." Beyond that, all the birds were healthy.


    ON DEADLINE: Arkansas tests dead birds

    The state is also performing chemical and disease testing, but the results will take a week.

    Neighbors reported five to 12 booming noises in the eastern part of Beebe, a community of 5,000 northeast of Little Rock. "They reported it sounding like a cannon or transformer exploding," but officials are still investigating to find out what the noises were, Rowe said.

    The flock then rose from its roost and tried to fly away, but possibly because of fireworks in the sky "they naturally wouldn't want to go up high," she said. "They were below the roof line, so they were hitting houses, mail boxes, chimneys and walls."

    Blackbirds have very poor night vision.

    The first calls about the incident came in at about 11 p.m. on New Year's Eve, according to Keith Stephens, with the Game and Fish Commission.

    "They told us there were birds falling out of the sky. After we verified that this wasn't some kind of prank, one of our wildlife officers went over there and sure enough, there were birds falling," he said.

    The Department of Emergency Management tested the air and found nothing amiss, so the state isn't putting out any health warnings, he said.

    Many theories being floated about causes of the die off can be discounted, said Dan Cristol, a professor of biology at the Institute for Integrative Bird Behavior Studies at the College of William & Mary in Virginia. The birds couldn't have eaten a fast-acting pesticide because they would have eaten it during the day and died long before they began to roost at night, he said. A slower-acting pesticide wouldn't have affected them all at the same time. A hail storm is unlikely because they would have had to be flying for that to happen, and at that hour red-wing blackbirds are asleep.

    Rough weather had hit the state earlier Friday, but the worst of it was well east of Beebe by the time the birds started falling, said Chris Buonanno, a forecaster with the National Weather Service in North Little Rock.

    But one expert said he can't discount weather as a cause.

    "Thousands of birds encountered something, whether it was a lighting strike or hail or something, and that caused the trauma and death," said Robert Meese, an avian ecologist at the University of California-Davis. "I don't see any way that they could have flown into obstructions, because then the birds should have been at the base of the objects. ... This was a scattering."

    The number of dead blackbirds is more than 3,000, Rowe said. "Environmental Services says they picked up approximately 2,000 birds." There were others they couldn't reach, she said, and "scavengers probably carried off quite a bit — if you're a cat, it's Christmas dinner."

    Red-wing blackbirds are native to North America and gather in large flocks in the winter, generally settling near food sources for weeks at a time, said Mike Parr of the American Bird Conservancy in Washington, D.C.

    The number of birds that died Friday is high, he noted, but "to put the number in perspective, windows, communication towers, power lines and wind turbines kill tens of millions of birds each year, probably hundreds of millions."

    In an unrelated event, a major fish kill was reported on the Arkansas River last week, Stephens said. Approximately 80,000 to 100,000 dead freshwater drum were found along a 17-mile stretch of the river, about 100 miles from Beebe, between the Ozark Lock and Dam and a point due south of Hartman.

    State officials believe the fish kill was disease related. Specimens have been sent to state labs for testing.

    The incidents — coming during a traditionally slow news period — made for a wild weekend for state Game and Fish staffers.

    "It's the craziest thing I've ever experienced and I've been doing this for 25 years," Stephens said. "I'll bet you I've had 100 calls today, I've done 25 interviews. I did Al-Jazeera live last night."

    Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Ah I see it now, I assume it's this? Outside of the companies claims has there been any independent testing of the device done? This could be pretty fantastic for countries whose climate limits the development of farming actually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    That's mad


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭killerking


    The birds were probably roosting for the night, fireworks go off scattering a huge flock and they crashed into each other, into trees and into houses in the dark killing each other and leaving dead birds all over the place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    what's up with the dudes voice?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    what's up with the dudes voice?

    It's a speak and spell. I thought it would be easiest for you to understand :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,976 ✭✭✭profitius


    Alex Jones and somebody else on Coast to coast am talking about the birds and fish. Jones also made the connection with the weather machine in Saudi Arabia and talks about HAARP etc.


    Skip forward on the video to 5 min until they start talking about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Sounds like part of the first 'FlashForward' season :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,092 ✭✭✭CiaranMT


    Saruman wrote: »
    That's mad

    Ardal_180x250_738983a.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭annieire


    CiaranMT wrote: »
    Sounds like part of the first 'FlashForward' season :pac:

    Yeah thats where i first heard about this kind of thing though i didn't realise it could happen though.

    By the way is it pronounced Ar-kansas or Ark-an-saw? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 YCHGTBOY


    They heard they were remaking Alfred Hitchcocks movie 'The Birds' and were auditioning??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    BIRDS

    Arkansas – 5000 +
    [link to www.cnn.com]

    Louisiana – 500 +
    [link to www.2theadvocate.com]

    Kentucky – dozens
    [link to www.wpsdlocal6.com]

    New Zealand
    [link to www.stuff.co.nz]

    Japan and Hong Kong, (H1N1 blamed)
    [link to www.nytimes.com]

    Germany
    [link to www.presseportal.de]

    UK
    [link to news.bbc.co.uk]

    North Carolina - hundreds of Pelicans (autopsy have ruled out humans killing birds)
    [link to www.carteretnewstimes.com]

    Italy - 300 doves
    [link to www.geapress.org]

    Bats in Arizona:
    [link to www.azcentral.com]

    Bats in New Hampshire
    [link to www.wildlife.state.nh.us]


    FISH & SEA LIFE

    Arkansas
    [link to www.todaysthv.com]

    Fish in Maryland
    [link to www.wbaltv.com]

    Florida
    [link to www.wftv.com]

    More Florida
    [link to www.cfnews13.com]

    Texas
    [link to www.ksat.com]

    Indiana
    [link to www.wndu.com]

    Brazil, 100 tons of dead fish was ashore in the last week.
    [link to www.parana-online.com.br]

    New Zealand
    [link to www.nzherald.co.nz]
    [link to www.3news.co.nz]

    New Zealand (perhaps interesting when you look at the more recent events not related to nets)
    [link to www.stuff.co.nz]

    Canada
    [link to www.torontosun.com]

    Australia
    [link to www.themorningbulletin.com.au]

    More Australia
    [link to www.smh.com.au]

    UK
    [link to www.bymnews.com]

    More in UK
    [link to www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk]

    More in UK
    [link to www.liverpoolecho.co.uk]

    100,000 fish in Italy
    [link to www.bymnews.com]

    Viet Nam (150 Tons)
    [link to business.asiaone.com]

    Philippines
    [link to globalnation.inquirer.net]

    Haiti
    [link to www.france24.com]

    Florida Manatee deaths
    [link to www.orlandosentinel.com]

    Starfish, jellyfish
    [link to www.abcnews4.com]

    Whales
    [link to www.mysailing.com.au]
    [link to www.beachconnection.net]
    [link to www.newsday.com]
    [link to www.northernadvocate.co.nz]
    [link to www.abc.net.au]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Lads, I think we might be onto something here, What is it tho?

    I heard about the Birds in America, and then I heard about the Fish in NZ and I thought they might be connected, but thats a Massive list there, if they've all happened recently then Something VERY Fúckin weird is happening


    any chance you could edit that list to put in Working links to the articles you found? I'm curious to establish a timeline for this, is this Sudden and new? have birds been fallin out of the Sky in smaller numbers previously? are there any historic incidents recorded of this sort of thing?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The latest report is from Sweden

    http://www.thelocal.se/31262/20110105/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    this should be moved to a busier forum.

    Its not a ct,its real.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    drdeadlift wrote: »
    this should be moved to a busier forum.

    Its not a ct,its real.
    So what's the reason for it then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭loldog


    These stories remind me of the signs and portents you see recorded in the old Irish annals:
    917 A.D.
    Snow and extreme cold and unnatural ice this year, so that the chief lakes and rivers of Ireland were passable, and causing death to cattle, birds and salmon. Horrible portents also: the heavens seemed to glow with comets; and a mass of fire appeared with thunder in the west beyond Ireland, and it went eastwards over the sea.
    1054 A.D
    A steeple of fire was seen in the air over Ros-Deala, on the Sunday of the festival of George, for the space of five hours; innumerable black birds passing into and out of it, and one large bird in the middle of them; and the little birds went under his wings, when they went into the steeple. They came out, and raised up a greyhound, that was in the middle of the town, aloft in the air, and let it drop down again, so that it died immediately; and they took up three cloaks and two shirts, and let them drop down in the same manner. The wood on which these birds perched fell under them; and the oak tree upon which they perched shook with its roots in the earth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,473 ✭✭✭robtri


    with such a sporadic spread over the globe and accross a period of time.. is it not more plausible to be some unknown natural phonemon???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,389 ✭✭✭✭Saruman


    In CT spirit, I blame it on a successful Alien test attack.
    Phase 1 is complete so we are phase 2 I guess....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭SEANoftheDEAD


    Yo, new to the forum here but delighted to find a CT based section.

    Interesting reading all across the global news. All we need now is one of these events to happen in Ireland and we're laughing.

    Alien test someone said? wouldnt rule it out :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Birds can 'see' the Earth's magnetic field so maybe the earth's magnetic filed is going haywire?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭SEANoftheDEAD


    digme wrote: »
    Birds can 'see' the Earth's magnetic field so maybe the earth's magnetic filed is going haywire?

    The start of the 2012 pole shift perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    The start of the 2012 pole shift perhaps?
    Anything is possible,but we should try deal in facts and one of them is that the birds do see this field.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,189 ✭✭✭drdeadlift


    humanji wrote: »
    So what's the reason for it then?

    I kinda thought that after posting,i was just surprised with the very low number of posters on this subject.None of my friends i talked to today knew this was happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭Elohim


    It has now hit Sweden. A Flashforward is on the way! :cool:
    Are CERN powering up their particle accelerator to max any time soon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    Elohim wrote: »
    It has now hit Sweden. A Flashforward is on the way! :cool:
    Are CERN powering up their particle accelerator to max any time soon?
    it's obvious you're piss taking in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Poly


    A strain of GM crop poisoning the birds?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    Heres a map of all the reports of dead animals:
    http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=201817256339889828327.0004991bca25af104a22b&ll=28.921631

    Its interesting, although it is important to put it in perspective, billions of animals die every year, the unusual nature of some of these makes it interesting though, I've seen magnetic field theory mentioned, how would this cause death though?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭Elohim


    digme wrote: »
    it's obvious you're piss taking in this thread.

    It was already mentioned on the first page, I was just highlighting it again after the second incident came to light.
    It's extremely weird but don't get how it's a CT anyways.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    digme wrote: »
    Birds can 'see' the Earth's magnetic field so maybe the earth's magnetic filed is going haywire?

    Seriously doubt it. If it were we'd all know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    iamstop wrote: »
    Seriously doubt it. If it were we'd all know.

    Yeah, evidently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    How come the usual trolls aren't here picking this thing apart like vultures??

    :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    digme wrote: »
    How come the usual trolls aren't here picking this thing apart like vultures??

    :D

    They are scared :D

    They spent so much denying whats coming, they haven't mentally prepared for it lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough


    China has figured out why birds are falling all over the place.

    Magnetic Shift
    We know that birds navigate by the magnetic field, only the magnetic field changes, and the birds will be lost fall,

    Migratory birds rely on the body's "biological compass" to determine the direction is "open secret", but it is not clear how the perception of the magnetic field of birds.

    "Nobody knows it (the magnetic induction system) to work," Patterson said Murray, "magnetic induction principle is that people understand the nature, at least so far the (principle)."

    How long migratory birds perceive the magnetic field on two main points. One view is that the birds beak cells can sense the Earth's magnetic field and pass the message through the nervous system to the brain; another point of view, birds eye in the photoreceptor cells can "see" the magnetic field, and the information through another way to the brain is referred to as "N clusters" light processing area.

    Specific proteins in migratory birds eye "cryptochrome" Maybe this is the light-dependent magnetic field sensing of the media. Light stimulation of this protein produced a pair of free radicals, free radicals can be carried by the electron spin may be able to perceive the special properties of Earth's magnetic field.

    In general, the magnetic elements of change is very small, but with the solar activity and geomagnetic storms are closely related phenomena, but it happened very suddenly. This is because the intense sunspot activity, when the energy released is equivalent to some one hundred thousand hydrogen bomb blast, while a large number of charged particles ejected. These charged particles hitting the Earth forming a powerful magnetic field to the magnetic field superposition, so that under normal circumstances, the magnetic elements changed dramatically, causing "magnetic storms." Occurs when the magnetic storm on Earth many strange phenomena occur. Over the North Pole in the dark there will be a beautiful aurora. The compass will swing, short-wave radio broadcasts suddenly, relying on the magnetic field "navigation" will be lost pigeons, flying around. To cosmic rays and magnetic fields can stop high-energy charged particles from the sun is harmful organisms from the natural umbrella.

    There may be and the polarity of the magnetic field changes related to conversion, according to Indian newspaper reports, Hyderabad (Hyderabad), a company in 2012, researchers predicted that the Earth and the Sun's magnetic poles will reverse. Earth's magnetic reversal Earth's magnetic field is the occurrence of the Arctic and Antarctic swap, in the course of the earth will experience at some point in time there is no magnetic field in the state.

    Such a thing in human history not recorded, so only through computer simulation of its impact. Hyderabad model based on the Earth and the Sun's magnetic field in addition to the conversion

    http://www.chou4.com/ky/showArticle.htm?topTypeId=62&articleId=3449


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    The MAgnetic field thing is very interesting, I suppose if you could mess with something like that even slightly then it would cause massive repurcussions in the Creatures that Use it, Disorentiation is a reason thats being bandied about for the Arkansas (Oh BTW I Believe its Pronounced Arc - n' - Saw) Bird deaths, so thats a possible reason for the disorentiation.

    As for the Fish, maybe the same thing, they're also highly atuned to these felds so a slight change can have massive effects.

    Next thing is to figure out if anything has Happened to the Earths Magnetic Field, then comes everyones favourite part, the speculative bit about the causes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 112 ✭✭Mr Plough




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Gas is a prime suspect, it's not the fireworks or the cold, though obviously some deaths could be from either or both.

    The weather machine must be considered a suspect.

    Release of trapped CO2 from underground and undersea.

    Release of poisonous gasses due to earthquake and volcanic activity.

    Undetected CME's


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?

    We are due a polar shift. We know the shift comes suddenly in geographic terms and recent studies suggest that we will experience a few wobbles and perhaps a gradual shifting of the poles and not a sudden snap of reverse polarity.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?

    Magnetic anomalies. http://io9.com/5060911/magnetic-anomaly-map-of-the-world

    Very localised and long known about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    humanji wrote: »
    Probably a stupid question, but if it's related to Earths magnetic field, then why is it only happening in a few rather random places around the world? Would there not be more of a pattern displayed on the map given above?

    magnetic_field.jpg



    That video shows how its not a very uniform shift and is unstable for the years before hand. The video is at a rate of 100 years per second.


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