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Irish soldier saved Adolf Hitler's life

  • 03-01-2011 10:23pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭


    Taken from here
    The memoirs report a chance encounter with a young Adolf Hitler that changed the course of history.
    Shortly after the Great War Mr Keogh stayed in Germany. While serving in the German Free Corps (Freikorps), fighting against Communist rulers who had declared a short-lived Bavarian Soviet Republic in April 1919, he recalls leading a military operation to save the life of the future German tyrant.
    He had earlier met Hitler in September 1918 near Ligny on the French Border, where the pair were in the same Bavarian Regiment.
    In his memoirs he describes how, as the officer on duty during the anti-Communist revolution, he received an urgent call about a riot involving 200 men and two "political agents", one of them being Hitler, in a nearby gym.
    "I ordered out a sergeant and six men and, with fixed bayonets, led them off on the double."
    Mr Keogh explained that two political agents, who had been lecturing from a table top, had been dragged to the floor and were being beaten.
    "The two on the floor were in danger of being kicked to death. I ordered the guard to fire one round over the heads of the rioters. It stopped the commotion."
    The group of soldiers managed to haul out the two injured politicians.
    "The crowd around muttered and growled, boiling for blood," he added.
    "The fellow with the moustache gave his name promptly: Adolf Hitler."
    "They had come to the barracks as political agents for the new National Socialist German Workers' Party."
    Interesting.
    Wonder how things would have played out if Hitler was killed here?
    Just goes to show the smallest things we do in day to day life can have a big effect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭figarofigaro


    How dare him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Just goes to show the smallest things we do in day to day life can have a big effect.

    Yep,
    Been done before.
    The Butterfly Effect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Didn't Adolf have Irish relations to ? pretty sure one of them was called Patrick to ( I'm not kidding )


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    I always suspected the saying was true, now I know it!

    No good deed goes unpunished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    kippy wrote: »
    Yep,
    Been done before.
    The Butterfly Effect.
    Tell me more about the Butterfly effect.:confused:

    Also is it just me or do the Irish seem to be involved in everything!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Well he did the decent thing. He saved the life of a man who he once served with. Strange that one man saving a life cost the lives of many many millions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Isn't Hitler alive and living in Kerry??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭Superbus


    Tell me more about the Butterfly effect.:confused:

    ...and so it begins.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    pre 1948

    he is Irish because he saved mein furher

    he would be british if he had killed him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Isn't Hitler alive and living in Kerry??
    Well I'd say he did survive after WWII. Don't believe he gassed himself. Say he lived as a which doctor somewhere or something for the rest of his life.
    Superbus wrote: »
    ...and so its Biggins.
    Is this what you meant to say? :p


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    I think H-dawg had some kind of relative working in the Shelbourne. Paddy Hitler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    our history teacher used to tell us of a legend that hitlers half brother lived in ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    During WW1 a shell hit the the trench Hitler and his unit were in. Hitler was in a bunker, the rest of the unit were in the trench. A shell hit the trench and every person in the unit died except, you guessed it, Hitler.


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    I can only imagine the severe facepalm moment he had when he realised what the guy he saved went on to become.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    RMD wrote: »
    During WW1 a shell hit the the trench Hitler and his unit were in. Hitler was in a bunker, the rest of the unit were in the trench. A shell hit the trench and every person in the unit died except, you guessed it, Hitler.

    This can only mean one thing...

    ..........................


    ...................



    ............




    ....


    ITS A SIGN!!! :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    There was a story of a british soldier manning a machine gun during WWI who caught Hitler in his sights but didn't fire. (I think it was because he didn't want to shoot him in the back).

    Basically Hitler was one lucky SOB. (Excluding the whole killing himself in a bunker in Berlin thing.)

    EDIT: Actually there he also survived the bomb plot. Seems like the only one who could kill Hitler was Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    If hitler had died and not been saved there, who knows what else might have happened between then and now. We assume it would of been better because millions died because of him. But there is no way of knowing what other course of events may have occured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Hitler was real??????

    I thought that was just a movie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Hitler was real??????

    I thought that was just a movie
    So you're not Jewish then :pac:


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    I wish I was Jewish- just for the money bag they wear around their neck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    robbie7730 wrote: »
    If hitler had died and not been saved there, who knows what else might have happened between then and now. We assume it would of been better because millions died because of him. But there is no way of knowing what other course of events may have occured.
    Agreed. Hitlers health was going down like a lead ballon. Had someone healthy been in charge, they may have made some better military choices, such as not attacking Russia when he did, and fighting only the one front at a time. Had France been taken, and then Russia hit in the spring, the nuking of Japan may have not been seen as such a "final" part of the war to a healthy commander.

    "What if" is not awlays a good thing. Sometimes, when one monster is killed, another one is awaiting just behind him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    There was a story of a british soldier manning a machine gun during WWI who caught Hitler in his sights but didn't fire. (I think it was because he didn't want to shoot him in the back).

    Basically Hitler was one lucky SOB. (Excluding the whole killing himself in a bunker in Berlin thing.)

    EDIT: Actually there he also survived the bomb plot. Seems like the only one who could kill Hitler was Hitler.

    Either that or people just made up a bunch of stories about him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    Latchy wrote: »
    Didn't Adolf have Irish relations to ? pretty sure one of them was called Patrick to ( I'm not kidding )

    There was William Patrick Hitler, a nephew I think of Hitler and his mother was Irish. Can't remember the mothers name, but William Patrick did go to Germany to get a "good" job from his uncle:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,576 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Stephen Fry wrote a book where someone used time travel to make Hitlers Dad infertile. Things turn out worse and hilarity ensues. Book's called Making History.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    cassid wrote: »
    There was William Patrick Hitler, a nephew I think of Hitler and his mother was Irish. Can't remember the mothers name, but William Patrick did go to Germany to get a "good" job from his uncle:confused:

    i think he wrote a book about him too. i think he was also the nephew who went to the US and joined the US army. Obviously they have all changed their names,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Taken from here

    Interesting.
    Wonder how things would have played out if Hitler was killed here?
    Just goes to show the smallest things we do in day to day life can have a big effect.

    Teddy, I'm very concerned. Remember I told you about that little website especially for people like you? Erm, how long exactly did you spend on it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Teddy, I'm very concerned. Remember I told you about that little website especially for people like you? Erm, how long exactly did you spend on it?
    Lul.
    I'm not for wars.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Lul.
    I'm not for wars.

    Maybe, but you need to get a room with Adolf Hitler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Isn't Hitler alive and living in Kerry??

    No, he is on a beach in Cuba smoking a joint with Elvis and 2Pac.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    CorkMan wrote: »
    No, he is on a beach in Cuba smoking a joint with Elvis and 2Pac.
    and Michael Jackson


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Irish soldier saved Adolf Hitler's life

    Holy shit.
    They're having enough trouble with the Nazis as it is on this thread........... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056133973


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Whats going on here?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    fair play to yer man for saving the 2 lads lives


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    Why does every thread have to turn into giving the nazis a hard time.
    Let's have a more balanced and unbiased view


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Two Jewish women sheltered Herman Goering when he was injured in the Beer Hall Putsch.
    November 9, 1923: Goering participates in the so-called "Beer Hall Putsch' in Munich. Hitler and Goering are both injured, with Goering sustaining a serious bullet wound to the groin. Goering is initially sheltered by two Jewish women, who contact Karin. Karin, herself is ill with pneumonia, but she arranges for Goering to be spirited away to Austria; Goering, with Karin at his side, avoids arrest, but both are in terrible shape.
    http://gooring.tripod.com/goo47.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    mikom wrote: »
    Holy shit.
    They're having enough trouble with the Nazis as it is on this thread........... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056133973
    Ich bin nicht noch habe ich jemals eine nazi. Ich kann nicht duldet keinen von Hitlers Aktionen!!!!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 Leprecunt


    Latchy wrote: »
    Didn't Adolf have Irish relations to ? pretty sure one of them was called Patrick to ( I'm not kidding )

    Ah sure, Paddy Hitler, good lad he was. Bit of a trouble maker though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Ich bin nicht noch habe ich jemals eine nazi. Ich kann nicht duldet keinen von Hitlers Aktionen!!!!!!!!!

    "Come, come pope Ratzinger, you derive just as much pleasure from Nazism as I do"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,244 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Hitler had nine lives, sure wasnt he nearly killed in a bombing in 1944 as well.

    Only way he was ever gonna croak it was the way he ended up - doing it himself with a luger. (or as some say, killing his body double and sneaking off to Kilarney where he now serves pints at the ripe old age of a hundred and thirteen).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Kinda want to ask something else in a new thread that involves the swastika but perhaps I shouldn't!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Kinda want to ask something else in a new thread that involves the swastika but perhaps I shouldn't!

    i think a lot of the nazi symbols was based on esotoric things like norse runes and the like. Hitler himself was a bit of a superstitious sort and even sent expiditions to find the yeti and the spear that pierced christs side at the crucifixion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    Adolf Hitlers 1/2 brother Alois* moved to Dublin in 1909 where he worked as a waiter. He saved enough money to go to Liverpool and open a small restaurant where he met Bridget Elizabeth Dowling a young Irish actress and the daughter of a carpenter whom he married in London 1910 they had a son William Patrick Hitler in 1911 born in Liverpool.

    *Alois was illegitimate (mother was Franziska Matzelsburger)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Kinda want to ask something else in a new thread that involves the swastika but perhaps I shouldn't!

    If it's about Buddhism or Hinduism then post it but if it's about the Nazis and their use of the Swastika then it would be a wise decision not to start a new thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    i think a lot of the nazi symbols was based on esotoric things like norse rnes and the like. Hitler himself was a bit of a superstitious sort and even sent expiditions to find the yeti and the spear that pierced christs side at the crucifixion.

    The Swastika symbol originates in the Sub-continent and the Far East especially in Confucianism, I have seen some of the temples in Vietnam that date back centuries


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    the_syco wrote: »
    Agreed. Hitlers health was going down like a lead ballon. Had someone healthy been in charge, they may have made some better military choices, such as not attacking Russia when he did, and fighting only the one front at a time. Had France been taken, and then Russia hit in the spring, the nuking of Japan may have not been seen as such a "final" part of the war to a healthy commander.

    "What if" is not awlays a good thing. Sometimes, when one monster is killed, another one is awaiting just behind him.
    stalin was worse than hitler and churchill was a junkie psychopath.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    The Swastika symbol originates in the Sub-continent and the Far East especially in Confucianism, I have seen some of the temples in Vietnam that date back centuries
    vedic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    In other news...

    Has Hitler been responcible for more saved lives than deaths?

    Fr Fitzpatrick, is that you?


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    God it'd be great if Ireland had a Hitler, y'know - only if he didn't kill anyone. Not only would the public transport actually run on time, but our defense forces would be stylish as hell!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    God it'd be great if Ireland had a Hitler, y'know - only if he didn't kill anyone. Not only would the public transport actually run on time, but our defense forces would be stylish as hell!

    ..hmmm.....good awl One Ball Bertie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    steddyeddy wrote: »
    our history teacher used to tell us of a legend that hitlers half brother lived in ireland.

    Not sure about that but he married an irishwoman called briget dowling and had a son william patrick hitler


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