Homeless animals in Galway

softmee

Hi. I've seen today two dogs wandering around in the morning and the same dogs when i was going back home.. also a cat sitting on a fence next to where i live.
I could see they paws where sore from cold and they didnt know what to do with themselfs.
We cant do much about it unfortunately, but we can always leave some food for them and so i did.
Horses are different story.. have no idea how they can be left outside in this weather -this is just cruel. Stupid, selfish, thoughtless people!
Do what you can if you see any little brothers around...

crally

hi where are these dogs. are they big dogs.

Ficheall

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.

That said, the dogs and cat were probably just minding their own business. However, if you wake up some morning to find a horse outside your house uninvolved in a Rubberbandits skit, then there may indeed be some cause for concern.
You could wear a false moustache if it makes you feel more comfortable.

softmee

Not too big. One is a kind of terrier -black/white and other also black white and looks like collie mixed with spaniel. I was trying to check if they have any collars but they didnt want to come near me.
They must had some good experience with people before.

softmee

Ficheall wrote: »

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not after you.

That said, the dogs and cat were probably just minding their own business. However, if you wake up some morning to find a horse outside your house uninvolved in a Rubberbandits skit, then there may indeed be some cause for concern.
You could wear a false moustache if it makes you feel more comfortable.

crally

The ISPCA have a phone number National Animal Helpline 1890 515 515. it is not right. at least if you feed them they have a better chance. i would go and take a look but weather is too dangerous. i will put a note up on an animal welfare site that i have access to.

softmee

From my experience if i call them ,two scenarios :
-one : they will be put to sleep ( i will rather leave them as they are at least they a chance of surviving)
-second: someone will come to check in three days time and they will be long gone

big b

softmee wrote: »

Hi. I've seen today two dogs wandering around in the morning and the same dogs when i was going back home.. also a cat sitting on a fence next to where i live.
I could see they paws where sore from cold and they didnt know what to do with themselfs.
We cant do much about it unfortunately, but we can always leave some food for them and so i did.
Horses are different story.. have no idea how they can be left outside in this weather -this is just cruel. Stupid, selfish, thoughtless people!
Do what you can if you see any little brothers around...

fair play to you.

If they stick around & you need help with the cost of feeding them, I'd be happy to drop off a few bob somewhere for you.

Knitting paw mittens would be beyond me though....

Discodog

It's Christmas. Lots of dogs will be thrown out to make way for the Christmas Puppy - a tradition that has died out in the civilised world but not here. If the rescues were not overfull, poverty stricken & overworked enough they will get a rush of dogs shortly.

In Galway you have three options: The GSPCA, East Galway Animal Rescue & MADRA - they all have websites with contact info.
You could call the dog warden & the dogs will very likely end up dead.

Because this is Ireland dogs are allowed to wander & no one bothers with a name tag - that way the blame, when the dog causes an accident etc, does not come back to the owner. So no one knows if a neglected dog is a stray or just one of the thousands of neglected dogs that have owners who don't give a ****.

If you want to help then the best way would be to offer them a bit of food & gain their confidence. Then if you think that there is a possibility of catching them phone the rescues & see if any has space - otherwise you will of acquired a pet dog.

My latest addition is a gorgeous Labrador Collie cross found abandoned by the sea - he was one of last year's Christmas Pups & the novelty probably wore off. He has a wonderful temperament & is a super family dog - but he still got dumped.

You might be better posting in the Animals & Pets section as some here will just make unhelpful remarks & criticise you for getting in the way of the time honoured Irish tradition of animal cruelty.

softmee

big b wrote: »

Knitting paw mittens would be beyond me though....

:pac:

Thanks, i will support with some food animals around here and for sure you can find some around where you live, just dont forget about them and that will be better then helping me helping.
Birds might also need some help -there is cheap birds food in LIDL ..

inisboffin

Discodog wrote: »

It's Christmas. Lots of dogs will be thrown out to make way for the Christmas Puppy - a tradition that has died out in the civilised world but not here.

Sadly that's not true. A friend volunteers in shelter that is connected to a network in the States, and it happens ALL the time. There are even ads on Telly asking people not to do this. Happens in UK too. Don't understand how people can do this *anywhere*

doubleglaze

Discodog wrote: »

the time honoured Irish tradition of animal cruelty.

Spot on. Tá an ceart ar fad agat, faraor.

Discodog

inisboffin wrote: »

Sadly that's not true. A friend volunteers in shelter that is connected to a network in the States, and it happens ALL the time. There are even ads on Telly asking people not to do this. Happens in UK too. Don't understand how people can do this *anywhere*

Most UK media agreed to stop advertising Christmas Pups years ago so the problem has declined hugely. Ireland is pretty much the worst Country in Europe. We have reduced the number of dogs that we kill but per population we kill about 10 times more than Scotland. In many European countries there aren't any stray or unwanted dogs.

Discodog

doubleglaze wrote: »

Spot on. Tá an ceart ar fad agat, faraor.

According to my religious neighbour "Animals were put on Earth to serve man & be treated in any way that he sees fit"

Jenroche

Discodog wrote: »

According to my religious neighbour "Animals were put on Earth to serve man & be treated in any way that he sees fit"

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I have no words!

inisboffin

Discodog wrote: »

Most UK media agreed to stop advertising Christmas Pups years ago so the problem has declined hugely. Ireland is pretty much the worst Country in Europe. We have reduced the number of dogs that we kill but per population we kill about 10 times more than Scotland. In many European countries there aren't any stray or unwanted dogs.

You did say 'civilized world', so I took that to mean not just Europe, but all 'first world' nations. Parts of the US are horrific, as I said my friend works for a large network shelter. I have personally seen it there too. Not just Ireland for atrocities, but it is sometimes more visible here, as we are in close proximity to our neighbours. Hope it improves everywhere.

inisboffin

Discodog wrote: »

According to my religious neighbour "Animals were put on Earth to serve man & be treated in any way that he sees fit"

That's quoted a lot in religious circles, my poor vegetarian friend in the States got that particular one every 5 mins from zealots.

softmee

Ok, so unfortunately they are still out there... Gave them some food and it looks like one is the boss of another and ba...rd ate everything!

I called GSPCA and they wont take any more dogs. They also wont talk to the people i know might own them (for some reason -probably, they cant do much).
Somehow every time i asked them about help with issues like this they didnt do nothing and when i wanted adopt a dog i was told i work too many hours and i dont have a garden! I felt like i wanted adopt a child and what i should think about it now when i hear there is no room in their shelter and some dogs are freezeing to death out there.
Is that fair and does it make sense???
I have my own dog now and he is perfectly happy without garden as i he has 3 long walks a day!
Lady from Madra doesnt have any room in her shelter either and she is stuck in the country.

I think i know what happend with those dogs. There where around different place before (where "some" people live) and now, they are all the time outside some block of apartments/houses.
It looks like someone moved in/rented and it was "too nice" inside to let them in... this is what i think.
-and i hate people who did this!

threeleggedhors

Animal welfare is shocking in this country. From my experience farmers are shockingly bad at treating their animals well. In the field beside me there are 6 or 7 ponies with no blankets on and no bedding, being fed every other day. Disgusting. Every horse and pony should have a blanket on if outside. I'd love to stick the owner out for a night without a blanket, feed him every other day ...

All neutering should be offered free to pet owners who aren't going to breed. The number of unwanted dogs and cats that get put down every year here is a national disgrace. Disappointed that the Greens haven't done something about this, actually disappointed with them full stop.

We are an atrocious nation when it comes to animal welfare :mad:

softmee

I think no horse should be left out of the shelter in this contitions :

"Bitterly cold this evening and tonight with a widespread severe frost and ice on untreated surfaces. Dry in most areas, though the north and north-west are likely to still have some scattered snow showers at times. Some freezing fog also , especially in the midlands. Temperatures will drop as low as -10 to -13 degrees C "

-blanket wont help much.
It should be illegal to buy a horse if you cant provide a shelter. I know It isnt usually that cold in Ireland, but even if its around 0 its too cold.

I feel it will ruin my Christmas.

Discodog

threeleggedhors wrote: »

Disappointed that the Greens haven't done something about this, actually disappointed with them full stop.
We are an atrocious nation when it comes to animal welfare :mad:

The Greens have been a disaster but they were also put off by the criticism of introducing the Dog Breeding Bill in a recession.

The simple facts are that the vast majority in Ireland do not consider Animal Welfare to be a worthy issue which is why it won't be part of the electoral campaigns of the three main parties.

The Animal Rescues in Galway all suffer from a chronic lack of money because the Irish do not donate to animal welfare to the same degree as other countries.

The Dogs Trust were only able to open a €10 million rehoming centre here because of the generosity of UK dog owners & their willingness to help dogs in other countries.

softmee

Discodog wrote: »

The Animal Rescues in Galway all suffer from a chronic lack of money because the Irish do not donate to animal welfare to the same degree as other countries.

-and still they are making big problems when you want to adopt one, does it make sense?

Discodog

softmee wrote: »

-and still they are making big problems when you want to adopt one, does it make sense?

You should read some of the threads in the Animals & Pets section here. We have been discussing this very issue. In Galway MADRA & East Galway Animal Rescue will tend to be more flexible that the GSPCA.

wet-paint

If it troubles you that much, call the warden to collect them, and destroy them.
It's more humane than having them living in this cold.

toadfly

threeleggedhors wrote: »

All neutering should be offered free to pet owners who aren't going to breed. The number of unwanted dogs and cats that get put down every year here is a national disgrace.

I agree about the amount of unwanted dogs is disgusting and overbreeding in this country is ridiculous but who do you expect to fund the neutering? The government wont do it.

I think you shouldnt take on a dog without having to agree to neutering unless you have a IKC reg dog that you are planning to show and ethically breed. Dog owners need to take responsibility for their dogs by chipping, neutering and keeping their dogs secure.

Its never going to happen though.

toadfly

OP what part of Galway have you seen the dogs? Are they in the same area everytime?

softmee

softmee wrote: »

I think no horse should be left out of the shelter in this contitions :

"Bitterly cold this evening and tonight with a widespread severe frost and ice on untreated surfaces. Dry in most areas, though the north and north-west are likely to still have some scattered snow showers at times. Some freezing fog also , especially in the midlands. Temperatures will drop as low as -10 to -13 degrees C "

-blanket wont help much.
It should be illegal to buy a horse if you cant provide a shelter. I know It isnt usually that cold in Ireland, but even if its around 0 its too cold.

I feel it will ruin my Christmas.

Its not always possible to put in farm animals. Once they are well fed and have water, which involves bringing them water when the pipes are frozen they are happy enough. They are a lot tougher than humans. We have all our stock of cows and calves in the fields at the moment and also have horses out, with blankets on. Our animals are very well treated and I'd take offense to anyone who said we were being cruel by having them outside.

Its not much if any warmer in a shed either in this weather, especially slatted sheds where the animals lie on concrete.

softmee

wet-paint wrote: »

If it troubles you that much

Sounds like it doesnt trouble you... Maybe life is easier if you care only about your own comfort.

softmee

Jordy Obnoxious Siphon wrote: »

Its not always possible to put in farm animals. Once they are well fed and have water, which involves bringing them water when the pipes are frozen they are happy enough. They are a lot tougher than humans. We have all our stock of cows and calves in the fields at the moment and also have horses out, with blankets on. Our animals are very well treated and I'd take offense to anyone who said we were being cruel by having them outside.

Its not much if any warmer in a shed either in this weather, especially slatted sheds where the animals lie on concrete.

Maybe this is the way it is, i never lived in country, but for sure some shelter would protect them from wind and snow...

crally

Hi i have set up a facebook page Galway Horse Welfare. please take a look and also put up information if you see a horse that is not being fed or being mistreated. i have spoken to Sarah from East Galway Animal Rescue and she has said she will give as much help as she can. So please take a look and spread the word. The horses on headford road are being fed, the farmers in the area donated hay....so we can try to do something.

Tranceypoo

Discodog wrote: »

According to my religious neighbour "Animals were put on Earth to serve man & be treated in any way that he sees fit"

What a charming scumbag he sounds

Tranceypoo

crally wrote: »

Hi i have set up a facebook page Galway Horse Welfare. please take a look and also put up information if you see a horse that is not being fed or being mistreated. i have spoken to Sarah from East Galway Animal Rescue and she has said she will give as much help as she can. So please take a look and spread the word. The horses on headford road are being fed, the farmers in the area donated hay....so we can try to do something.

Crally, can you post the link to Facebook page (I can't get on Facebook in work and I will prob forget when at home)

Re the dogs, I think by law you have to phone the dog warden first before a rescue can take them in, Madra take dogs from the dog warden/pound as much as they can.

Re the gspca, sigh, don't start me off, i could rant about them for ages, not slagging them off now, just very frustrating to deal with for rehoming, taking in strays etc etc, I also have personal experience of Madra and they are great and very flexible with each individual rehoming/taking in strays

Discodog

Tranceypoo wrote: »

Re the dogs, I think by law you have to phone the dog warden first before a rescue can take them in, Madra take dogs from the dog warden/pound as much as they can.

By Law you have to notify the Gardai or the Dog Warden that you have taken a stray.

Discodog

Tranceypoo wrote: »

What a charming scumbag he sounds

Even worse an 80 year old woman who does lots of charity work

dapto1

Can you knit?

softmee

Very cute.... :rolleyes: but problem is serious.

softmee

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-wake up your empathy and stop beeing "funny".

Das Kitty

softmee wrote: »

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-wake up your empathy and stop beeing "funny".

Can I ask what exactly you're doing to solve the problem apart from having empathy?

glasto

This breaks my heart. I adopted a kitten from a shelter last month. I had to have a home check even though I have another cat. I didn't mind, but I can see how it puts people off. Currently Gizmo the kitten is sunk so deep in his cushion in front of the fire I can only see the tips of his ears, And Wilbur, who is more shy, is deep in the airing cupboard. I hate to think of any animal or person out on a night like that. I know small animals can freeze to death out there, and in Russia every spring thaw they find bodies. :mad:

softmee

I am doing what i can.
I support rescues, call them when i see animals in need, i feed homeless animals if they are around, i write here about it and in result of that boards member contacted me ( crally -thanks again) and came to rescue dogs. We were trying to catch one (the other one was gone), but with no success (he was too frightened).

-and can i ask now, why i am beeing questioned?

softmee

glasto wrote: »

This breaks my heart. I adopted a kitten from a shelter last month. I had to have a home check even though I have another cat. I didn't mind, but I can see how it puts people off. Currently Gizmo the kitten is sunk so deep in his cushion in front of the fire I can only see the tips of his ears, And Wilbur, who is more shy, is deep in the airing cupboard. I hate to think of any animal or person out on a night like that. I know small animals can freeze to death out there, and in Russia every spring thaw they find bodies. :mad:

I think their approach to the adoption is crazy. I understand they have to check who they are giving animal to, but people who are willing to take one shouldnt feel like they are suspected of treating them bad in the future. This is very discouraging and i am sure most of the people who even think of adopting one have a very good intentions.

glasto

softmee wrote: »

I am doing what i can.
I support rescues, call them when i see animals in need, i feed homeless animals if they are around, i write here about it and in result of that boards member contacted me ( crally -thanks again) and came to rescue dogs. We were trying to catch one (the other one was gone), but with no success (he was too frightened).

-and can i ask now, why i am beeing questioned?

Good for you. We all can only do as much as we can. I was chatting to someone the other day about the weather and I mentionned putting stuff out for the birds. They asked me why I would do that 'sure my cats would only chase them'. I said my cats were too cozy indoors to want to bother.:rolleyes:

softmee

-and if you put some food close to your windows your cats can have some entertainment.

glasto

softmee wrote: »

-and if you put some food close to your windows your cats can have some entertainment.

Ha! Exactly!:D

dapto1

softmee wrote: »

Very cute.... :rolleyes: but problem is serious.

softmee wrote: »

-wake up your empathy and stop beeing "funny".

Well you're a barrel of laughs.

banSHE

just to reply to Discodog...... I really really hate your neighbour!!!!!!!!!! hope he is really cold tonight and that he cant get to the shops for something to eat..... Selfish b*****d

banSHE

Actually I feel I am being too mild and nice . I hope the man who lives next door to discodog goes outside tonight and slips on his ignorant arse and I also hope that a few dogs walk by at the same time and have a good aul chuckle. remember everyone the best motto you can have in life is FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD (Believe me it really makes sense when you think about it)

dapto1

banSHE wrote: »

remember everyone the best motto you can have in life is FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD (Believe me it really makes sense when you think about it)

I've thought about it and it doesn't, can you explain please?

softmee

banSHE wrote: »

FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD (Believe me it really makes sense when you think about it)

I wouldnt idealize animals world too much, they can be cruel and selfish too (often they are actually)- nature is cruel and ruthless (and not perfect as some people tend to think ), but difference is -we are humans and we can change some things if we want to.

banSHE

Basically animals (four legs) are good and humans (two legs) can be nasty... As in discodogs evil neighbour. I say let the animals rule the country.............. they would make a lot better job of it than the muppets in Leinster House:D

dapto1

banSHE wrote: »

Basically animals (four legs) are good and humans (two legs) can be nasty... As in discodogs evil neighbour. I say let the animals rule the country.............. they would make a lot better job of it than the muppets in Leinster House:D

Ah, you're on the wind-up. Carry on