How much has your TD cost?

Sizzler

Well have a looksies here and find out !

Some nice chap has pulled together the expenses claimed from all of our friends in Leinster House and how much they have claimed 2005-2008...and what the potential saving would be if their expenses were canned.

A few of my favourites -

1. Jackie Healy Rae - €719k

2. Bernard Allen (The head of the public accounts committee) €725k

3. Paul Gogarty the F-Bomb green party TD €536k (never knew the commute from Lucan was so expensive!)

4. Aenghus O'Snodaigh, a man fighting for workers apparently trousered €536k.


FYP

https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=twFxqrCK_ddeI2rKYJqAL-Q&authkey=CI2sy_wK&type=view&gid=0&f=true&colid0=0&filterstr0=Aengus%20O%27Snodaigh&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

Guill

A penny a dozen.

twinytwo

Sizzler wrote: »

Well have a looksies here and find out !

Some nice chap has pulled together the expenses claimed from all of our friends in Leinster House and how much they have claimed 2005-2008...and what the potential saving would be if their expenses were canned.

A few of my favourites -

1. Jackie Healy Rae - €719k

2. Bernard Allen (The head of the public accounts committee) €725k

3. Paul Gogarty the F-Bomb green party TD €536k (never knew the commute from Lucan was so expensive!)

4. Aenghus O'Snodaigh, a man fighting for workers apparently trousered €536k.


FYP

https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=twFxqrCK_ddeI2rKYJqAL-Q&authkey=CI2sy_wK&type=view&gid=0&f=true&colid0=0&filterstr0=Aengus%20O%27Snodaigh&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

such a joke of a man tbh.... pity its too late for people to wake up. Once the bailout is signed the 10 billion interst a year will sink us.

bonerm

€85billion / 166 = ....

Elevator

they earn wayyyyyy too much with expenses!!

robbing (redneck) motherfcukers the bloody lot of them

I smell a riot coming, the likes of never seen in this country before and I hope I'm not wrong!!

dec 7th 2010 all going well, will go down in the history books

twinytwo

lol at enda kenny for complaining about expenses but sill claiming 676K

twinytwo

Elevator wrote: »

they earn wayyyyyy too much with expenses!!

robbing (redneck) motherfcukers the bloody lot of them

I smell a riot coming, the likes of never seen in this country before and I hope I'm not wrong!!

dec 7th 2010 all going well, will go down in the history books

the place is done for anyway lets make the politicans feel it...

Son Of A Vidic

Sizzler wrote: »

1. Jackie Healy Rae - €719k

https://spreadsheets.google.com/lv?key=twFxqrCK_ddeI2rKYJqAL-Q&authkey=CI2sy_wK&type=view&gid=0&f=true&colid0=0&filterstr0=Aengus%20O%27Snodaigh&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

One look at him and you can see the type of sleeveen bast@rds that shafted this country.

twinytwo

medicman2009 wrote: »

One look at him and you can see the type of sleeveen bast@rds that shafted this country.

and he wont get the old age ticket for the train just so he can claim the full one.... and god help us he is stepping aside for his son:rolleyes:

Elevator

twinytwo wrote: »

the place is done for anyway lets make the politicans feel it...

that's the stuff for ya!! fighting spirit right there

just so ye all know I'm taking the seat of cheann choirle when we storm the dail

1st order of business will be free drinks for everyone in the bar whoop whoop!

dec 7th lads!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bonerm

medicman2009 wrote: »

One look at him and you can see the type of sleeveen bast@rds that shafted this country.

But on the plus-side rest assured tho that the parish pump will never run dry in Kerry South so long as that gombeen and his equally inbred son are still alive.

twinytwo

bonerm wrote: »

But on the plus-side rest assured tho that the parish pump will never run dry in Kerry South so long as that gombeen and his equally inbred son are still alive.

id thank that post more than once if i could

Elevator

bonerm wrote: »

But on the plus-side rest assured tho that the parish pump will never run dry in Kerry South so long as that gombeen and his equally inbred son are still alive.

it's like they were both pulled right out of a tv show (fr ted crossed with ballykissangel!!)

How the hell can we stop these fcuking eejits getting the seats in the dail!?!

I think someone with the money to do so should do all they can to expose these gobsh!tes for who they really are!! in this day and age there is not one seat should be lost to the likes of these fools

god damned sons a bitches!

folan

worth looking at. Grill you TD when he comes round this year. i will

biko

Potential saving 2011-15
€104 382 149
That's a hospital right there.

Setun

Is it possible to view it as a spreadsheet actually?

EDIT: Found another one with more info https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AqAEiinGYynOdFo5VmhxVF81VUZnLWVpY240cmI2anc#gid=0

stovelid

Don't blame Healy-Rae. Blame the thousands of "more power to him" morons that give him a mandate. Or indeed anybody that votes based on what they can get down for their little patch (or pay packet) rather than looking at the big picture.

biko

Most expensive TD www.roryohanlon.com for Cavan / Monaghan, combined pop. of 60700.

tommyhaas

I dislike Jackie Healy Rae as much as anyone eles, but given the type of people the Kerry population have been known to support in the past (rapists and that) would you honestly expect them as a county to choose anyone better?

Lord Derpington

most expensive for the country..

arranging the first column Expenses 2005-08 by size

Rory O'Hanlon € 789543.77


floats to the top

ejmaztec

tommyhaas wrote: »

I dislike Jackie Healy Rae as much as anyone eles, but given the type of people the Kerry population have been known to support in the past (rapists and that) would you honestly expect them as a county to choose anyone better?

I live in Kerry and don't know of any "rapists and that", and I also didn't vote for some old over-acting gombeen.

Elevator

tommyhaas wrote: »

I dislike Jackie Healy Rae as much as anyone eles, but given the type of people the Kerry population have been known to support in the past (rapists and that) would you honestly expect them as a county to choose anyone better?

oh the right honourable judge what'shisname!! my dads wife is one of the healy rae supporters from Kerry, she's equally as thick as **** and manages to hold down a job in the public service!! she swears by him and my Dad by frank Fahy. dads reasons are cos frank got us medical cards in the 80's/90's when we didn't qualify for them. I've tried to talk them round but I might as well be talkin to the telly for all the sense i hear coming back at me.

edit... judge curtain if I'm not mistaken, at least someone had the balls to try break his jaw for him on the street!! he should have been taken off in a van, skinned alive, killed a few times and brought back to life and when they were done with him leave him at the gates of the dail

that was one of the worst cases of horsesh!te I ever seen, wrong date on the warrant!! i mean WTF like!!!!

tommyhaas

ejmaztec wrote: »

I live in Kerry and don't know of any "rapists and that", and I also didn't vote for some old over-acting gombeen.

I was refering to the Listowel case where the locals supported the rapists and shunned the victim

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1217/1224260838823.html

Obviously there's idiots everywhere, Kerry however seems to have a disturbingly high number relative to the population of the county

snubbleste

What is that spreadsheet OP?
Is it the salary and all expenses combined over that four year period?

Wibbs

tommyhaas wrote: »

I dislike Jackie Healy Rae as much as anyone eles, but given the type of people the Kerry population have been known to support in the past (rapists and that) would you honestly expect them as a county to choose anyone better?

JHR and his son are very heavily supported down there alright. The proportion of older above 40 types that do beggars belief. The young dont so there's hope.

It is scary and frankly shameful to see that 19th century caricature of a gombeen paddy showing up to the Dail and being interviewed by foreign media.

ejmaztec

tommyhaas wrote: »

I was refering to the Listowel case where the locals supported the rapists and shunned the victim

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1217/1224260838823.html

Obviously there's idiots everywhere, Kerry however seems to have a disturbingly high number relative to the population of the county

I know the case to which you referred, and the guy wasn't charged with, or convicted of rape. Accuracy goes a long way.

As for your Kerry idiot population generalisation? That's worthy of a Daily Mail article.

Elevator

ejmaztec wrote: »

I know the case to which you referred, and the guy wasn't charged with, or convicted of rape. Accuracy goes a long way.

As for your Kerry idiot population generalisation? That's worthy of a Daily Mail article.

is it such an idiotic generalisation though? there are some right tools from Kerry and I know that from personal experience and the fact the two healy raes keep gettin praise and airtime

there are plenty like them in Galway too and they keep voting for frank Fahy so don't take it personly when we say anything about your particular county

we all got backward, special cases, old time gob****es who shouldn't have anything to do with any type of power like they have to be able to lift the phone and twist the rules in your favour just for a couple of votes ffs

the purple tin

biko wrote: »

Most expensive TD www.roryohanlon.com for Cavan / Monaghan, combined pop. of 60700.

He's Ardal O'Hanlons father, apparently Ardal used him as inspiration for "Val Falvey TD".

sensibleken

Feckin unreal. the dail should be closed down for this. Im going back to the barter system and settin up a soviet

tricky D

While serving as Minister for Education, (Dr Michael) Woods signed a controversial agreement with 18 Irish religious orders involved in child sex-abuse scandals which limited their compensation liability to the victims of abuse to only €128 million. This compensation scheme is project to eventually cost the Irish government, and therefore the Irish tax payers, €1.35 billion.

€1.35 - €128 = €1.222 Billion excluding expenses, pensions and salaries

Not bad, not bad at all............

littlejp

That list is sickening to read. Such greed.

Wile E. Coyote

Does the payment list include annual wages of is it just additional expenses?

Fighting Irish

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056095316

Cat Melodeon

Fighting Irish wrote: »

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056095316

This isn't another micro-moan-thread on the economy, it's about salaries and expenses and the scandal thereof. Completely separate issue, especially with a general election on the way.

Fighting Irish

Cat Melodeon wrote: »

This isn't another micro-moan-thread on the economy, it's about salaries and expenses and the scandal thereof. Completely separate issue, especially with a general election on the way.

no k

snubbleste

OP can you clarify the source of the figures and what the figures actually represent.

Duggy747

snubbleste wrote: »

OP can you clarify the source of the figures and what the figures actually represent.

Yea, wondering myself the source of these figures. (More-so for the sake of who's expenses are higher than others)

ejmaztec

Elevator wrote: »

is it such an idiotic generalisation though? there are some right tools from Kerry and I know that from personal experience and the fact the two healy raes keep gettin praise and airtime

there are plenty like them in Galway too and they keep voting for frank Fahy so don't take it personly when we say anything about your particular county

we all got backward, special cases, old time gob****es who shouldn't have anything to do with any type of power like they have to be able to lift the phone and twist the rules in your favour just for a couple of votes ffs

I don't take it personally because I wasn't born here.

Ireland's riddled with this gombeenery crap, and it just so happens that the "King" of these over-acting, salt of the earth bogus yokels, represents some odd-balls in South Kerry. He's got two councillor sons, one of whom will no doubt inherit the TD throne, while the other one wanders around the county ingratiating himself with the community.

The greatest pity though, is that nothing seems to be achieved when there's none of this quasi-blackmail arse-licking going on. North of Tralee, for example, got feck-all even during the boom years. I see that the FF TD Tom McEllistrim knocked up over €530K, but I don't think that there could have been any expenses for travelling north of his Tralee base. He did some door-knocking before he first got elected, and I've seen hide nor hair of him since.

I wish the majority of voters would wake up and get a bit more selective for once in their feckin lives.

Sizzler

snubbleste wrote: »

OP can you clarify the source of the figures and what the figures actually represent.

They represent expense claims TD's are taking over and above their base salary, some of these are tax free.

Turning up expenses , travel expenses , office expenses, extra payments for doing us the great service of being on a committee...eg dail transport committee.

http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=5732

Duggy747 wrote: »

Yea, wondering myself the source of these figures. (More-so for the sake of who's expenses are higher than others)

I've already asked my 3 local TD's about theirs and not one of them has challenged the number quoted....take that as you will.

tommyhaas

ejmaztec wrote: »

I know the case to which you referred, and the guy wasn't charged with, or convicted of rape. Accuracy goes a long way.

As for your Kerry idiot population generalisation? That's worthy of a Daily Mail article.

My apologies, your dead right. Sure it was only sexual assault, sure thats fine so. Nothing wrong with dragging a drunk woman behind a skip and leaving her unconscience, with her jeans down and legs bruised. I'm amazed its even illegal

Your proving my point with the above post and living up to the Kerry stereotype that you are trying to deny. Id like to think most people would view a sexual assault as a disguisting crime, on a par with that of rape and abuse crimes. Wtf does it matter what the sick fcuk was charged with, it amounts to much the same thing in my eyes.

snubbleste

Sizzler wrote: »

They represent expense claims TD's are taking over and above their base salary, some of these are tax free.
Turning up expenses , travel expenses , office expenses, extra payments for doing us the great service of being on a committee...eg dail transport committee.http://www.politicalworld.org/showthread.php?t=5732

It only links to another poster board whose source is someone:
"I don't know this info on politican's expenses on any previous thread as i recieved it from someone."

ejmaztec

tommyhaas wrote: »

My apologies, your dead right. Sure it was only sexual assault, sure thats fine so. Nothing wrong with dragging a drunk woman behind a skip and leaving her unconscience, with her jeans down and legs bruised. I'm amazed its even illegal

Your proving my point with the above post and living up to the Kerry stereotype that you are trying to deny. Id like to think most people would view a sexual assault as a disguisting crime, on a par with that of rape and abuse crimes. Wtf does it matter what the sick fcuk was charged with, it amounts to much the same thing in my eyes.

When you stick with the incontrovertible facts, you don't leave yourself or anyone else open to a libel suit. You're jumping the gun again with your stereo-typing and assumptions.

ReacherCreature

In the OP's link, what do columns C and D represent?

EDIT: Found it I think.

Orizio

stovelid wrote: »

Don't blame Healy-Rae. Blame the thousands of "more power to him" morons that give him a mandate. Or indeed anybody that votes based on what they can get down for their little patch (or pay packet) rather than looking at the big picture.

While I'm sure this post will get plenty of thanks, its also fundamentally naive and unrealistic - self-interest is the only interest, people will look after their own little enviroment before anything else. To demand that people start looking out for the 'big picture' or the 'national interest' is to entirely misunderstand human nature.

Rather, one should look at a political structure that allows so few politicians to hold political parties to ransom, rather then the people who look after their own well-being and their own enviroment first and foremost. Like we all do.

Jesus Wept

bonerm wrote: »

€85billion / 166 = ....

How does a country of this size have 166 members of the dail.

i_love_toast

now dont forget that these were completely unvouched for expenses. It only came in last year where TD's had to hand in their receipts so to speak. These expenses went into the bank accounts of these absolute fools. It is legal corruption thats all it is...plain and simple. Its corruption but they are doing "nothing wrong"...morals dont come into the job of being a TD in Ireland.

starbelgrade

My TD cost €2,500.

That's how much I had to pay him to make sure my planning application got granted two years ago.

Degag

tommyhaas wrote: »

I was refering to the Listowel case where the locals supported the rapists and shunned the victim

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2009/1217/1224260838823.html

Obviously there's idiots everywhere, Kerry however seems to have a disturbingly high number relative to the population of the county

Oh come off it. There are muppets elected to the Dail and muppets electing them all over the country. Wasn't Bertie being investigated by the tribunals at the time of the last election? Did he also not return one of the highest percentiles in the country? Says alot for the sophisticated aristocrats up in the Capital.

Degag

The only expenses a TD should be able to claim in my book are travel and overnight stay expenses. How much petrol does it take to get from Kerry/Galway/Donegal etc to Dublin and back? €200 max or so? Well that's it they should get. The morans are actually sitting in the Dail so little, it shouldn't ammount to too much. You'll get a decent *** hotel in Dublin for what €60 these days? Well that's the max they should be able to claim for that too. Fcuk this €400 a night business. You'll also get a decent three course meal for €30. Fcuk the slap-up meals in Chapter One or Shanahans.

There needs to be serious reform in the area of expenses. Their salaries are big enough ffs.

twinytwo

Elevator wrote: »

oh the right honourable judge what'shisname!! my dads wife is one of the healy rae supporters from Kerry, she's equally as thick as **** and manages to hold down a job in the public service!! she swears by him and my Dad by frank Fahy. dads reasons are cos frank got us medical cards in the 80's/90's when we didn't qualify for them. I've tried to talk them round but I might as well be talkin to the telly for all the sense i hear coming back at me.

edit... judge curtain if I'm not mistaken, at least someone had the balls to try break his jaw for him on the street!! he should have been taken off in a van, skinned alive, killed a few times and brought back to life and when they were done with him leave him at the gates of the dail

that was one of the worst cases of horsesh!te I ever seen, wrong date on the warrant!! i mean WTF like!!!!

what a creep of a man he was going out with and 18 yo at the time:rolleyes:... judge or not if i had been the girls old man id have kicked his head in and buried him in a forrest somewhere.

starbelgrade

Degag wrote: »

The only expenses a TD should be able to claim in my book are travel and overnight stay expenses. How much petrol does it take to get from Kerry/Galway/Donegal etc to Dublin and back? €200 max or so?

I take it that you don't do much driving.... you could rent a car and pay for the petrol for that price!