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Would it bother you if your boyfriend was really good friends with his ex-girlfriend?

  • 26-10-2010 10:50pm
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    My flatmate is really good friends with her ex-boyfriend, in fact they work in the same lab so they spend a lot of time together. It is several years since they broke up and both have seen other people since they were together - her last boyfriend didn't mind that they were good friends. She is currently single, and he has a girlfriend.

    Last night she had to go to A&E, and her ex didn't want her to be there alone so he waited with her. It was quite late by the time she was seen, so he came back to stay at our flat.

    I mentioned to her that I was very surprised to see him this morning, as I hadn't realised that he was here (and I had wandered bleary-eyed into the kitchen in my PJs with my hair all over the place :o) She explained about going to A&E and how he'd stayed over because it was so late, fair enough. I was a bit puzzled as to where he'd slept, since we've already got someone staying on the sofa bed right now.

    She just said that it was so late when they got back she didn't want him to have a crappy night's sleep on the sofa, so he slept in her bed with her. I was, well, a bit surprised - she didn't see a problem with it though, since nothing happened between them and they were just sleeping. I asked would his girlfriend not mind, and she said that they just weren't going to say anything to her. I can't help thinking that the fact they're not going to tell her means that they know that she'd mind.

    So, would it bother you if you found out your boyfriend had shared a bed with his ex, even if it was totally innocent and they'd just been sleeping? Would it bother you if your boyfriend was good friends with an ex at all? I don't think being friends would bother me, or him accompanying her to hospital or whatever, but I'd be uneasy about any bed-sharing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    I wouldn't mind them being friends. Especially if they work together, it seems that would have been a very good reason for them to make the effort to stay friends. And I'm sure you could ask your boyfriend why they broke up, and why they are still friends, so you know you can trust him.

    But I would have an issue with the bed sharing. I would be upset if my boyfriend shared a bed with any girl, but it would bother me more that it was his ex. I don't think not wanting him to have a bad night's sleep on the sofa is a good enough excuse. And if they aren't going to tell his girlfriend they must think it was a bit wrong too.

    But I really don't mind boyfriends being friends with their ex's. If anything, I think its sort of a good thing. At least if they are still on friendly terms, you know nothing really bad happened during the breakup. Anyone I know who never talks to their ex, its generally because of a bad breakup. It gives me a little bit of hope that it might not end badly from his part. A little bit silly I know :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    Well it's all about trust isn't it? If you don't trust your boyfriend enough to be comfortable with him being friends with his ex, then I think that's something that needs to be looked at in a relationship.

    That said, all the trust in the world wouldn't stop me being a bit upset if I found out my boyfriend had been sharing a bed with any other girl really. I'd still trust him, and believe him if he says it was innocent, but I think it's female or, even human, nature to feel threathened or self conscious about incidents like that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭sesna


    Hotaru wrote: »
    That said, all the trust in the world wouldn't stop me being a bit upset if I found out my boyfriend had been sharing a bed with any other girl really.

    I think it's okay, once one of them is sleeping inverted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Konata


    sesna wrote: »
    I think it's okay, once one of them is sleeping inverted.

    That wouldn't stop some people :P

    >_>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    sesna wrote: »
    I think it's okay, once one of them is sleeping inverted.

    Lets hope neither of them have a foot fetish


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,378 ✭✭✭mojesius


    Sharing a bed is completely wrong. End of story. The friend aspect is a little greyer. Your friend's work situation sort of dictates that she maintains a level of friendship with the ex, there's nothing really the girlfriend can do about that.

    The way I see it with exes is quite simple. Were they friends before they started going out with each other or not? They may have the same circle of friends and compromises will need to be made. However, if the answer is no, then the people involved need to be completely honest with themselves. Why are they continuing this failed relationship under different terms? Personally, I see it as nothing more than an insurance policy, a back up card in case they feel lonely or things don't work out with a new boyfriend or girlfriend.

    I had major issues with my (now ex) boyfriend's ex girlfriend, let's call her 'Anne'. Anne kept trying to call him at ridiculous hours crying or she'd text him numerous times during the day. It went on for months. He told me he wasn't contacting her back, but I knew that he had to be reciprocating communication for her to behave like this. I told him how much it bothered me but he told me he wasn't interested in her like that. One day (she called the night before) he sent me a text just after I'd left his place to go to work, saying 'How's Anne today?'. I replied 'wrong phone number buddy' and didn't speak to him for weeks.

    Then I gave him an ultimateum. Either maintain this 'friendship' with Anne or it's over, because my trust in him was shot at that point. I asked him why he was friends with her, things had ended horribly between them and they were never friends beforehand. It was simple, he was keeping her on the long finger, as she was with him. He stopped all contact with her and all was fine.

    I email him maybe three times a year now, that's it. No meet ups, no coffees, nothing. It's not fair on my new boyfriend and it's pointless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    mojesius wrote: »
    Sharing a bed is completely wrong. End of story. The friend aspect is a little greyer. Your friend's work situation sort of dictates that she maintains a level of friendship with the ex, there's nothing really the girlfriend can do about that.

    The way I see it with exes is quite simple. Were they friends before they started going out with each other or not? They may have the same circle of friends and compromises will need to be made. However, if the answer is no, then the people involved need to be completely honest with themselves. Why are they continuing this failed relationship under different terms? Personally, I see it as nothing more than an insurance policy, a back up card in case they feel lonely or things don't work out with a new boyfriend or girlfriend.

    I had major issues with my (now ex) boyfriend's ex girlfriend, let's call her 'Anne'. Anne kept trying to call him at ridiculous hours crying or she'd text him numerous times during the day. It went on for months. He told me he wasn't contacting her back, but I knew that he had to be reciprocating communication for her to behave like this. I told him how much it bothered me but he told me he wasn't interested in her like that. One day (she called the night before) he sent me a text just after I'd left his place to go to work, saying 'How's Anne today?'. I replied 'wrong phone number buddy' and didn't speak to him for weeks.

    Then I gave him an ultimateum. Either maintain this 'friendship' with Anne or it's over, because my trust in him was shot at that point. I asked him why he was friends with her, things had ended horribly between them and they were never friends beforehand. It was simple, he was keeping her on the long finger, as she was with him. He stopped all contact with her and all was fine.

    I email him maybe three times a year now, that's it. No meet ups, no coffees, nothing. It's not fair on my new boyfriend and it's pointless.


    Couldnt agree more with you to be totally honest! :) Was great to hear of a girl thinking the same as myself in this situation. Why would you be friends with an ex unless your either not over (which then you shouldnt be starting up with someone else seriously) or you have them as a backup plan of some sort. its simple as if you ask me.

    As for sleeping together, eh no!! Do you not have a bed of your own?! if your going to share a bed with an ex, or anyone of the opposite sex, when your with someone else then it can be construed as cheating (emotionally or physically).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Couldnt agree more with you to be totally honest! :) Was great to hear of a girl thinking the same as myself in this situation. Why would you be friends with an ex unless your either not over (which then you shouldnt be starting up with someone else seriously) or you have them as a backup plan of some sort. its simple as if you ask me.

    As for sleeping together, eh no!! Do you not have a bed of your own?! if your going to share a bed with an ex, or anyone of the opposite sex, when your with someone else then it can be construed as cheating (emotionally or physically).

    because you get on well with them? because despite you not being good as a couple you have a laugh together? because a relationship that lasts a few years doesn't one day go POP and everything that you've shared and experienced together disappears with it?

    Being friends with exes is not a problem and in fact it shows good judgement in that there is still a friendship left when there's no physical/emotional relationship anymore.

    Sleeping in the same bed is a completely different kettle of fish and is not something that is easily explained away imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    I would not be surprised if something is still going on between the two.. given their history, I'd say it is very unlikely that something didn't happen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Ruby-J


    I am friends with my ex. It ended amicably between us but by no means would we share a bed. Thats just not on especially if there is another girlfriend or boyfriend involved and it seriously shows theres a line that has been crossed.

    We remain good friends and chat every few days, but its platonic and we have seen each other date other people etc and are fine with it. I think theres being friends with your ex and theres being "friends" with your ex. Personally i think when you get involved with someone else and the ex is a friend it depends on how serious things get with the new relationship and how they feel about you being mates with the ex. After all, there is a reason your ex is an ex and if you are not prepared to let them go for something that could potentially be something real with someone else then i think there is a problem. That is something i always keep in mind and me and the ex have spoken about it that if either of us are faced with that decision its only fair that we cut contact. He was dating a girl previously who couldnt bare us being friends so i backed off on our contact. Now im seeing someone and its going well but like that i asked him how he felt about me being friends with an ex and he is fine with it as he said he is friends with one or two of his exs because of common interests and hobbies that they still bump into each other which is fair enough and understandable. So i think its all about trust and also knowing how you feel inside about your ex and that they are your past end of.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Asphyxia


    Nah! It wouldn't bother me if it was just hanging out or having a drink, I wouldn't even mind them crashing at the house on the sofa or spare room but sharing a bed :eek: Hell No! That is crossing the line big time. It seems that there might be more going on with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Agree with a lot of you. I don't see the problem with someone being friends with their ex (hell, I'm friends with one of my exes). If you get along with someone well enough to be in a relationship with someone for years, you obviously like them as a person. Provided it was an amicable break-up, why bother to cut contact? I'm still friends with my ex cos we always had stuff in common, had a laugh together and had a lot to chat about. There are very few people I can genuinely say the same about so I'm not about to cut contact with her just cos we used to date.

    As for sharing a bed though, that defo comes down to situation. If we were snowed in and there was only one bed, I doubt either of us would have a problem sharing and I don't see why it would be a big deal. If, however, I had a girlfriend, I'd be plopping myself squarely on the floor. It's not about cheating and it's not about trust. It's about having respect for your gf/bf/whatever. If I thought "hmmm, I don't think my gf would like me doing this," I'd just avoid doing it. It can be as innocent as ye like (and it would be), but having respect for your OH is a lot more important than a comfortable sleep. I can guarantee that if I disrespected a partner by sleeping beside an ex, I'd have plenty of sleepless nights in the wake of it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    Even if they didn't do anything incriminating. The thought of him blatantly doing it behind my back and of other people knowing (and inevitably talking/laughing about it) is pretty humiliating. It also puts you in an extremely awkward position if you find out, as you will then know that a) he lied to you b) broke a pretty huge relationship taboo by anyone's standard c) actually willingly chose to do it despite so many alternatives.

    'If you loved me you'd trust me' is a very common cop out for getting away with that sort of behaviour. I don't think I would be too happy about it.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    When in a relationship and faced with a situation were the lines of right and wrong are not clear cut and easily defined, I always ask myself "how would I feel if my boyfriend was doing this". If the answer is yes I'd be ok, then I do it and if the answer is no I'd be raging then I don't. It's about respect for my boyfriend.

    You should be able to stand by your actions and if you have a situation whereby you're omitting details of a story, well that's just shady and you know it.

    As for the friends with exes, I think it can only be judged on a case by case basis. And again it's about respect for your boyfriend/girlfriend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    Maybe it's hard for me to imagine it because I am not friends with any of my exes, but I wouldn't really like it if my boyfriend was. But luckily he's not in touch with anyone either.

    I find it difficult to defend my position because people always accuse me of being jealous, lacking trust, being controlling, but it's something I had from when I was a small child. I absoutely HATED when my parents talked about their lives before each other. I remember having a hissy fit at one point when my dad started a story by saying "I once went out with a girl..." :eek::rolleyes:

    I don't know what it is! It's not jealousy, it's not a fear of rejection. My parents always had a very stable, loving relationship and still do. I think it's just that I don't like to think about they way people lived before I was around. Cripes, that makes me sound very self-centred :o I'm not really! And I'm perfectly secure in my relationship with my boyfriend. In fact, he is very good friends with another girl and it doesn't bother me at all.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭pollypocket10


    Being honest I don't get this whole being friends with an ex thing. You had feelings for each other, it didn't work out so why not just let it go? Personally, I don't believe that it can be purely platonic, one party will always harbor feelings. The past is the past for a reason so I don't see the point in trying to drag it out.

    Being honest aside from sleeping in the same bed, the fact that they are colluding together to keep something from the gf is totally wrong and a huge betrayal.

    Even the staying by her side at a&e doesn't sit well, my partner has done this with me and being honest I would not be happy if he's feelings were so strong for another woman that he would do the same, well a family member ok but certainly not a "friend".

    I'm all for staying civil, chatting when u bump into each other or at work and what have you but I don't this level of relationship is appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,568 ✭✭✭candy-gal1


    Iago wrote: »
    because you get on well with them? because despite you not being good as a couple you have a laugh together? because a relationship that lasts a few years doesn't one day go POP and everything that you've shared and experienced together disappears with it?

    Being friends with exes is not a problem and in fact it shows good judgement in that there is still a friendship left when there's no physical/emotional relationship anymore.

    Sleeping in the same bed is a completely different kettle of fish and is not something that is easily explained away imo


    Because, again, it was in the past, leave it there. they are an ex for a reason and playing up the friendship card is, imho, just another way of keeping them at hand "just in case".

    If you are not with someone then its entirely your choice what you do with exes and the like, but out of respect for your BF/GF you should cut all contact with exes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    My boyfriend is good friends with an ex and they also work together. They meet for drinks, go to lunch and text each other regularly.

    It's not something that bothers me because they both admit that their past relationship was far from a good match and there was very little emotional involvment, beyond that of friendship and affection. I get on quite well with this girl too, and even if my boyfriend didn't work with her right now I'd understand maintaining the friendship because she can be great fun!

    However, if he shared a bed with her while in a relationship with me he'd at best be in the doghouse and at worst be out on his ear. Sleep on the floor or something if the couch isn't available. The fact that nothing happened doesn't matter; that's just not something you do. Even the thought that he could have just put his arm around her while sleeping is an image that would cause a lot of hurt, no matter how innocent/uniintentional/unconscious it may be!

    I think Nervous Wreck it the nail on the head with his comments about respect for your current partner. I'd never dream of sharing a bed with another guy, ex or not, because I have too much respect for my boyfriend's feelings. It's not too much to expect the same levels of respect in return.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't mind at all. However, my ex; with whom I was in a relationship for 2 years with, isn't allowed to talk to me because her fella said she couldn't. Yet when we were together, I wanted her to be in contact with her ex because he had been an important part of her life at some stage and there's no point in trying to deny that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 223 ✭✭pollypocket10


    I wouldn't mind at all. However, my ex; with whom I was in a relationship for 2 years with, isn't allowed to talk to me because her fella said she couldn't. Yet when we were together, I wanted her to be in contact with her ex because he had been an important part of her life at some stage and there's no point in trying to deny that.

    My 6th class teacher was an important part of my life at some stage, my best friend in secondary school was an important part of my life at the time but we haven't seen each other in close to a decade.

    Life moves on and things change, an inability to let go is unhealthy imho. Priorities will constantly change and when in a relationship I think your priority should no longer be keeping on a friendship with your ex.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    I wouldn't mind at all. However, my ex; with whom I was in a relationship for 2 years with, isn't allowed to talk to me because her fella said she couldn't. Yet when we were together, I wanted her to be in contact with her ex because he had been an important part of her life at some stage and there's no point in trying to deny that.

    I apologise for going completely off-topic, but every time I see one of your posts, no matter what the content, I giggle :o your username is amazing! :D

    Aaaaaand back on topic: sounds like your ex's new guy has some serious trust issues if she's not allowed even to talk to you.

    I do understand what a lot of people here are saying about letting the relationship go if it didn't work out, but if you spent a significant part of your life with someone and it didn't end horribly then I see no reason why you can't at least try to stay friends. I've never experienced a situation where one person still harboured feelings for the other though, so maybe I'm being naive. I'd like to hope not...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My 6th class teacher was an important part of my life at some stage, my best friend in secondary school was an important part of my life at the time but we haven't seen each other in close to a decade.

    Life moves on and things change, an inability to let go is unhealthy imho. Priorities will constantly change and when in a relationship I think your priority should no longer be keeping on a friendship with your ex.

    I agree somewhat, but I won't be the person to force them to stop being friends with their ex; it has to be their choice.
    jokettle wrote: »
    I apologise for going completely off-topic, but every time I see one of your posts, no matter what the content, I giggle :o your username is amazing! :D

    Thank you. Thank you. I'd like to thank God. And Jesus. And so on and so forth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,900 ✭✭✭rannerap


    The friends thing wouldnt bother me, I still talk to one of my ex's occasionally. But sharing a bed seems a bit much. I would not be happy if my bf shared a bed with his ex the same way I would never do it to him. its nothing to do with trust its just you should have more respect for who you are going out with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭azwethinkweiz


    Being friends is one thing, its nice to be civil with your exes instead of letting the reason you broke up make you stay angry at them forever. However, sleeping in the same bed is just not cool. Just so NOT cool. I dread to think the kinda hissy fit I'd have about something like that :rolleyes:. I'd be very very upset about it and i think what someone said earlier about having respect for your other half is exactly right!

    I'm in a situation myself that I've never been in before, a guy broke up with me 2 months ago (there were a lot of little arguments the last year), we were together for 4 years and we currently work together... its a very awkward situation, not really sure what to do or how to act around him. I tried to be "friendly" and civil with him but felt like I was the only one making the effort to do this so I backed off, He ignores me most of the time now anyway so i've been ignoring him too. Suppose its up to him now if he wants to keep up a friendship! But i assure you I shan't be sleeping in any bed with him ever again no matter what the circumstances are lol!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭Iago


    candy-gal1 wrote: »
    Because, again, it was in the past, leave it there. they are an ex for a reason and playing up the friendship card is, imho, just another way of keeping them at hand "just in case".

    If you are not with someone then its entirely your choice what you do with exes and the like, but out of respect for your BF/GF you should cut all contact with exes.

    The relationship and the associated feelings are in the past. The friendship can continue into the present and through to the future. There are a lot of reasons why somebody becomes an ex, and only some of them are down to that person as an individual.

    I think your view is quite blinkered to be honest, if you have been with someone for a long time then you develop a significant friendship with them, much as you would with any friend of the same sex that you spend a lot of time with. It's entirely natural for that friendship to survive a break-up, especially if it's cordial and something that has just come to the end of the road. In fact a lot of relationships end simply because both people in them realise that they have become really good friends as opposed to lovers.

    Out of respect for your current partner you should absolutely inform them that you are still in contact with your exes and you should never do anything that breaks that respect or boundary, but cutting off contact is beyond extreme in my opinion.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    For me it depends entirely on the nature of the contact and how and why they split up. Real long termer that mutually just ran out of steam, then no worries, or a short term fling thing that was going nowhere, ditto. As far as the nature of it, if they're in daily kinda contact then I think it's a bit dubious to say the least. If they're in contact and the current partner isn't aware by how much that's really dubious. That actually would be a litmus test for me. If your current partner found out how much and what kind of contact was going on, would this be a problem? If so it is a problem.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Jesus, I make a rubbish, uncaring girlfriend but I'd be devastated if I was with someone who shared a bed with an ex.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 99 ✭✭Audie


    My boyfriend used to be good friends with an ex. Well, they never properly went out but they did stuff and he was in love with her for years - I almost though that was worse, because he might always pine for what might have been? Maybe I don't understand it as I have never ever been friends with an ex!!

    Im really trusting of my boyfriend, this is the only thing that gets me. They used to have late night phone calls and skype chats that I only heard about later! He was talking about going to stay with her as she lives abroad, and invited me. But to be honest, 2 years down the line I don't think I would mind him going over that much (the fact that she has a long term partner helps!)

    Sharing a bed, in my eyes, would be a massive no-no!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Pebbles!


    No I could not handle that if it happened to me! The only girls bed my boyfriend should sleep in is mine!...Let alone an ex! :eek: Fair enough being friends with an ex, some people manage a perfectly fine friendship but sharing a bed, innocent or not should not happen. No matter, how much trust in in a relationship if your boyfriend came home and said he stayed in his ex girlfriends bed and nothing happened would be really hard to believe knowing that they used to share a bed, he used to love her, used to sleep with her....No thanks! I personally wouldn't like my boyfriend to be spending lots of time with his ex girlfriend, fair enough is this situation they work together and there is nothing they can do about it but it would probably get to me if there were best friends!!

    Every situation is different thou, it depends how long their broken up and how it ended etc. The Fact that he won't tell his girlfriend shows that he knows he shouldn't stayed there. No matter how late it was he should have still had the cop on to go home to his own house, I don't think it thinks too much for his girlfriend.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭bills


    Staying in contact & still friends with an ex- i would not mind.
    Sharing a bed- i would definetely mind!!!
    You would have to be very trusting to believe nothing happened & there would always be doubt in my mind. Its not very respectful of the boyfriend either. He obviously is not considering his girlfriends feelings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I know I would never share a bed with an ex of mine, purely because if I didn't mention it to my boyfriend, I dunno, I'd feel like I was hiding it from him because I thought it was wrong and if I thought it was wrong, it probably is. That doesn't even make sense now that I've written it!

    But anyway, no problem with my boyfriend being friends with an ex... but sleeping in the same bed? I'd prefer if he didn't tbh. Probably wouldn't be angry, just a little sad 'cause sharing a bed is kind of special and intimate imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hmmm...Wonder how the guy would feel if he discovered his girlfriend had shared a bed with her ex, and both had hid it from him.
    Have to say, my reaction to this situation would not be very good. There's a chance I would opt for a very petty, vengeful, immature "tit for tat" thing, and pretend that I had shared a bed with one of my exs because "the couch was full", just to give him a taste of his own medicine, cos I know he'd absolutely hate it.
    I'd definitely contemplate this scenario, however I more than likely would just go fcuking mental, and possibly finish it with him.[Maybe temporarily finish it, maybe not-depends how mad I would be, and who the girl was]
    We're together almost 7 years, and I would still consider sharing a bed with an ex a possible dumpable offense-depending on the exact details of the situations, and if it was an ex of his that I already really disliked due to her trouble making.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Something is not computing. If the person is an ex and it truly is over and there is nothing there, then why should it be a threat? I empathise with the dislike of it, but rationally it doesnt make any sense.

    Is it a threat and no one wants to admit it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    It baffles me that people cannot comprehend how or why some exes can remain friends.

    granted, its not always possible, and its certainly not a level playing field if one person has ongoing feelings for the other, but thats not always the case

    in my case, i was with my ex for 5 years

    the relationship just fizzled out, due to distance and some other things

    there was no big drama, no animosity, no third party, no row, no bitterness

    to this day, and it is more than 6 years since we split up, he remains one of my closest friends

    there are no lingering feelings on either side, we've never kissed or had any sexual contact since we split up, or even come close to it


    in the years since we split, we've each seen the other with new partners, new flings, new infatuations, the whole spectrum from ONS to love.

    i recently attended his wedding.

    we have a healthy, genuine, respectful friendship, and thats it.

    neither of us are secretly or openly pining for the other

    if any new guy who came on the scene for me started throwing a strop about me still being friends with this guy, i would be showing him his p45 fairly rapidly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    This is quite an interesting one, it's along the lines of a few things people have been saying to me recently, on the grounds that I have now been almost 6 months with a guy who's still really good mates with his ex, who he was with for 4 years (and then on-and-off for another year too), and who, since me and my fella got together, has become a really good mate of mine too - to the point that it was her that I moved in with when I was homeless after the earthquake.

    It's one of those sort of odd things initially, and it was weird to hear that she 'approved' of his new girlfriend (me), but despite a couple of doubts and curiosity/wondering about how it was between them, I would now completely trust both of them on the piss together (which happens frequently, sometimes with a group, sometimes not).

    I'm not sure how I'd feel about them sharing a bed though. Probably uncomfortable with the idea, but at the same time, I do trust both of them completely... Though it has crossed my mind what I'd do/feel if they ever were to rediscover feelings for each other (I never knew them as a couple, but even as friends, they do seem really good for each other).

    As for still having feelings for an ex - I can completely accept that. I can't imagine ever not having a soft spot for my ex (the one I moved to NZ for), and we've never really talked about it specifically, but I can't imagine my fella ever not having a soft spot for his ex.

    At the end of the day, I think it depends very much on the couples involved. A good friend of mine is very aware of the fact she does get jealous easily, another will easily admit she gets paranoid easily - both have admitted that they couldn't handle being in a relationship like mine where the ex is a big part of our social life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Something is not computing. If the person is an ex and it truly is over and there is nothing there, then why should it be a threat? I empathise with the dislike of it, but rationally it doesnt make any sense.

    Is it a threat and no one wants to admit it?

    Well, I'd kind of be of the same opinion as Novella-ie that sharing a bed with the opposite sex [if yr hetero, or same sex if yr not], is something that is generally an intimate thing just kept for your boyfriend or girlfriend.
    I have to say though, that the most infuriating aspect of this situation would be the fact that it was an ex girlfriend of his-somebody who he had regularly had sex with etc., it would just remind me of the fact they used to sleep together, and that's something I never ever want to dwell on,cos of course it's natural he would have slept with his ex-- but hearing of them sharing a bed again, even in an innocent context would just drag unwanted images into my mind of when they were together, and I wouldn't want that at all.

    Is it a threat? I don't know, probably on some sort of level. You can have all the trust in the world for your boyfriend or girlfriend, but sleeping in an exes bed is one thing that will piss off the majority of even the most trusting individuals.

    Why does it provoke such hostility? People probably won't agree with me, but I think that whilst everyone rightfully says that possessiveness is wrong in a relationship, and that obviously you don't "own" somebody just because they are your partner,....
    to some extent most people have a mild sense of entitlement, or feeling of things that should only be shared with them, and will not tolerate them being shared with someone outside the relationship.
    The biggest example of this is sex. Most people will not tolerate their partner having sex with other people, as they believe it is only something that should occur in the relationship.

    Now whilst stopping your partner being friends with an ex etc. is imo very wrong, there are other things that for me would be crossing a boundary.
    Things that I consider are only for me and my boyfriend, include sharing a bed, but also other little things.
    Such as, if I'm having a bad day, and my boyfriend gives me bear hug, strokes my hair, and kisses my forehead...if I saw him do the same to a female "friend", I would be absolutely furious, as I consider it just a thing for me and him.

    I guess everyone just has their own boundaries, on what behavior should just be kept especially for them, and what behavior is acceptable to be shared, such as friendship etc., which I wouldn't have a problem with.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    Yeah, it's not that I'd feel threatened by my boyfriend sleeping in the same bed as his ex. It's just that I love having him beside me when I'm going to sleep, and waking up in the morning with his arms around me or getting out of bed during the night, getting cold and coming back to have someone warm me up. There's just all these little intimate things that go with sharing a bed. So for that reason I'd prefer alternative sleeping arrangements between exes. That's all.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Novella wrote: »
    I know I would never share a bed with an ex of mine, purely because if I didn't mention it to my boyfriend, I dunno, I'd feel like I was hiding it from him because I thought it was wrong and if I thought it was wrong, it probably is. That doesn't even make sense now that I've written it!
    Yep it does. Nail on the head.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    I know for me I wouldn’t like it. My ex stays over a bit and we share a bed but if either of us were to get involved with someone else he’d be straight into the spare room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭metrovelvet


    Maybe the 19th century shrinks were right. There is something surrendering and intimate about being horizontal. Pillow talk, breath, scent, heat. It's intimate in itself, even outside of sex, maybe more intimate than some sex.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    it wouldn't bother me a bit if my boyfriend was good friends with his ex,In fact they still are friends (not great friends,they are facebook friends now as they only barely see each other now college is finished) and it doesn't bother me, sleeping in her bed however would annoy me,

    likewise, i am great friends with one of my exes in particular and my boyfriend is ok with it, but then we would never sleep in the same bed, ever! i would find that very disrespectful to my boyfriend and our relationship tbh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,016 ✭✭✭lilmissprincess


    My boyfriend's ex stayed with him in his college accomodation and they shared his bed. He slept in a sleeping bag, she had the duvet. All was fine, except my subconcious freaked and I was having bad dreams all night. Turns out she had told him that two years after they're over she's still in love with him.
    I trust him so I had no issue with them in the same bed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    Novella wrote: »
    I know I would never share a bed with an ex of mine, purely because if I didn't mention it to my boyfriend, I dunno, I'd feel like I was hiding it from him because I thought it was wrong and if I thought it was wrong, it probably is. That doesn't even make sense now that I've written it!

    Makes perfect sense. And the OP's flatmate seems to agree with you.
    Fishie wrote: »
    I asked would his girlfriend not mind, and she said that they just weren't going to say anything to her.

    Friends, fine. But bed-sharing is a frickin' no-no ... and these two know it.

    Seriously, I can see the RI post now from his girlfriend:

    SNIP

    Of course that'll never happen as they're keeping it secret from her. :(


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    LittleBook it's policy on the site not to quote PI posts directly. Not fair on the people in there. Though we should make that more clear I'll admit.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    Maybe the 19th century shrinks were right. There is something surrendering and intimate about being horizontal. Pillow talk, breath, scent, heat. It's intimate in itself, even outside of sex, maybe more intimate than some sex.

    I definitely would think so. Personally I feel sleeping with someone is so intimate, you're asleep, your defences are down, you're at your most vulnerable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭LittleBook


    Wibbs wrote: »
    LittleBook it's policy on the site not to quote PI posts directly. Not fair on the people in there. Though we should make that more clear I'll admit.

    I'd never do that. I meant I could "see" it in my mind. I paraphrased the OP to create an imaginary post from the girlfriend's point of view, that wasn't from RI. Sorry it wasn't clear. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    be happy to have a boyfriend, who cares who his friends are


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    Someone posted that they'd be upset if their boyfriend shared a bed with his ex and that everyone would have been talking and laughing about it... It wasn't like that in this particular case, she hadn't even thought to mention that he had stayed over to our other flatmates because she didn't think it was a big deal. I made a remark about being embarrassed walking into the kitchen and finding him there when I was literally just out of bed and god knows what I looked like, someone asked where he had slept and she said in her bed, we were all like :eek:

    I think she was a bit taken off guard by us being so shocked by it, and then got a bit defensive when we asked if the girlfriend would mind. I really don't think anything did happen between them in the bed though. They're both Portuguese, maybe there is some cultural difference there that I didn't know about.

    I agree with all the people who reckon being friends with an ex is fine - I wasn't implying in my original post that it wasn't, I just thought it would be an interesting general discussion. If I'd called the thread 'Would it bother you if your boyfriend shared a bed with an ex?', I think it would have been a very short thread! I'm still on good terms with all my exes except one who is a complete knob, but I'm not really good friends with any of them anymore because our lives have moved on. As for my boyfriend, it's kind of a non-issue because his only significant girlfriend in Ireland before me cheated on him, they're in polite facebook contact but that's it really


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    be happy to have a boyfriend, who cares who his friends are

    Ummmm, what? :confused: So you should be ok with your boyfriend sharing a bed with his ex just because you're lucky enough to have him? No one should accept being treated badly just for the novelty of having a boyfriend.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    LittleBook wrote: »
    Sorry it wasn't clear. :)
    Naw sorry I'm easily confused. :)

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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