Atheists worse than the religious types they despise.

Patricide

Ok its very seldom I start a thread on AH but there is something that really has been pissing me off as of late.

Militant Atheists!

You know the type of guys-gals who will immediately protest about religion at the slightest chance. Now dont get me wrong, im far from a right wing religious nut. Its just that recently with all these retarded threads, and with a lot of my friends its the exact same **** over and over. Even if we would so much as mention the church here or every time i would in real life pass a a church with my friends the following would ensues:

"you believe in something, o your retarded, your wrong, science is the only constant in this world, there is no proof for anything you believe in, rabble rabble"

"but i dont really believe..."

"rabble rabble rabble, church is wrong, everyone is an idiot except atheists rabble rabble"

The thing is im not talking about preachers or whatever here, these are just average everyday joe soaps like you and me. They dont work for any church they dont go to prayer meetings or whatever else the religious nutjobs seem to do.

90% of the time I feel like im dealing with born again christians trying to convert me rather than "scientific minds". And the thing is these are the same people who usually freak out if they see some religious guy so much as handing out flyers on the street. I mean at least hes doing it as part of his church (an sometimes even for a good cause). However these people just seem to love to argue about how religion is only a pack of ****.

Tl;dr : Militant Atheist types, we get it, you believe in nothing, you find it illogical that people do. However there is no need to shout it from the rooftops every 5 minutes, I dont see any catholic people taking such an aggressive stance(except the right wing nuts).

EDITED to get my message a bit better across.

28064212

Tl;dr - I see a small section of Group A acting in an unreasonable manner, therefore Group A is unreasonable. I don't see Group B acting in an unreasonable manner (except for the small section that do)

Yes, I find a lot of the more vocal ones are as bad as the fundamentalists of the religions they so despise..

who the fug

Patricide wrote: »

Tl;dr : Atheists, we get it, you believe in nothing, you find it illogical that people do. However there is no need to shout it from the rooftops every 5 minutes, I dont see any catholic people taking such an aggressive stance(except the right wing nuts).

We have our equivalent right/left (yes the left does have nutters) wing nuts.


Evangelicals are a pain in the arse would be a better thread title

TheZohanS

Patricide wrote: »

Tl;dr : Atheists, we get it, you believe in nothing, you find it illogical that people do. However there is no need to shout it from the rooftops every 5 minutes, I dont see any catholic people taking such an aggressive stance(except the right wing nuts).

Religious people we get it, no need to make another fùcking thread about it.

PanchoVilla

Agreed. Atheism is the new religious fundamentalism. Funny that.

FoxT

I have been exploring boards a bit lately & there are Atheists & some LGBT folks as well who are really militant.

Don't take it too seriously.

Bertrand Russell observed early in the 20th century that 'The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the foolish are cocksure, whilst the intelligent are full of doubt'.

- FoxT

Pace2008

Cue 1000 thanks for simply launching a polemic against atheists.

Where's that "Help! We're being oppressed" image when you need it.

Ah, here it is.

AudreyHepburn

I agree that there is a certain section of the athiest fraternity that spend their time looking down their noses at those with faith, being condscending, belittling and downright rude.

I have yet to see a thread on, until this, bemoaning athiests and being condescending towards them, yet I have lost count of the amount of anti religion threads doing exactly that.

However I know that there some fanatical believers who are just as bad.

liah

Look. Arrogance and obnoxiousness are human traits. They're not bound to any religion, group, race, gender, belief.

Hate the individuals but don't brand the entire group with one brush. I'm not like that and I know way more atheists who aren't than are. The dicks just happen to speak the loudest and most often.

I'm sure you wouldn't want everyone to think Fred Phelps is your representative, would you? Sure, you both believe in the same god and holy book, ye must all be as awful as he is! Right? Or does that sound ridiculous to you? Because this is pretty much what you're saying to us.

Can we not all just be reasonable with each other and stop trying to be so divisive? This is pathetic.

senordingdong

Fundamentalists/extremists are bad in any faith.

Or lack there of.

seamus

I for one am delighted that you're no longer treated like a leper in Ireland for saying that you don't believe in a big bearded sky-dwelling prick who has no respect for human life and who sets sets unreasonable, unreachable and downright sadistic goals for people in order to be "saved".

God loves you unconditionally. But if you eat meat on a Friday, you're going to hell. Fickle much?

Here's a better solution to your problem - stop talking to people about religion.

curlzy

Was there not another sizable thread or 2 on this subject recently?

liah

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I agree that there is a certain section of the athiest fraternity that spend their time looking down their noses at those with faith, being condscending, belittling and downright rude.

I have yet to see a thread on, until this, bemoaning athiests and being condescending towards them, yet I have lost count of the amount of anti religion threads doing exactly that.

However I know that there some fanatical believers who are just as bad.

You're joking, surely? You were posting in that thread last week about this very subject along with me. If you didn't read either of those OPs as condescending then just replace the word "atheists" with "christians" in them and you should understand.

Pace2008

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I have yet to see a thread on, until this, bemoaning athiests and being condescending towards them, yet I have lost count of the amount of anti religion threads doing exactly that.

There was one about a week ago. You had about 100 posts on it.

Selective memory, perhaps?

Beruthiel

Patricide wrote: »

I dont see any catholic people taking such an aggressive stance(except the right wing nuts)..

....

I don't see any atheists taking such an aggressive stance (except for the more fundamentalists among us)

TheZohanS

Pace2008 wrote: »

There was one about a week ago. You had about 100 posts on it.

Selective memory, perhaps?

Must be, she/he/it even thanked the post

AudreyHepburn

Pace2008 wrote: »

There was one about a week ago. You had about 100 posts on it.

Selective memory, perhaps?

Nope not selective, just a mistake

Ok let me rephrase apart from that thread and this one I've never seen a thread set up for the purpose of decrying athiesm, although some threads have degenerated into that.

liah

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Nope not selective, just a mistake

Ok let me rephrase apart from that thread and this one I've never seen a thread set up for the purpose of decrying athiesm, although some threads have degenerated into that.

Perhaps not in AH. I've seen quite a few attempts from Christians in the A&A forum over the last while.

It happens just as much both ways, and it's not ATHEISTS (or the religious) who are the dicks. It's the individuals. When you read their posts, just think "you're a dick," not "atheists are dicks," otherwise I'm going to have to look at the Westboro Church and think "people who believe in god are dicks." And that just plain wouldn't be fair to the millions of religious people who are the polar opposite of that and in far greater numbers.

AudreyHepburn

liah wrote: »

Perhaps not in AH. I've seen quite a few attempts from Christians in the A&A forum over the last while.

It happens just as much both ways, and it's not ATHEISTS (or the religious) who are the dicks. It's the individuals. When you read their posts, just think "you're a dick," not "atheists are dicks," otherwise I'm going to have to look at the Westboro Church and think "people who believe in god are dicks." And that just plain wouldn't be fair.

I KNOW it isn't ALL athiests, I did say that in my first post. But there are some who can be pompus and condscending. I've had them call me deluded, naive, weak-minded etc.

Equally there are some people with faith who can be just as pompus.

Pace2008

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I KNOW it isn't ALL athiests, I did say that in my first post. But there are some who can be pompus and condscending. I've had them call me deluded, naive, weak-minded etc.

Equally there are some people with faith who can be just as pompus.

Er...isn't that her point? Dickheadedness transcends creed. Some people are just dickheads.

senordingdong

Everybody believes that they are right and those who disagree are wrong.

It's inevitable.

Links234

FoxT wrote: »

I have been exploring boards a bit lately & there are Atheists & some LGBT folks as well who are really militant.

what the hell are you talking about?

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u273/clogiron2_bucket/Tank_14.jpg

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I KNOW it isn't ALL athiests, I did say that in my first post. But there are some who can be pompus and condscending. I've had them call me deluded, naive, weak-minded etc.

Equally there are some people with faith who can be just as pompus.

Are you Catholic?

liah

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I KNOW it isn't ALL athiests, I did say that in my first post. But there are some who can be pompus and condscending. I've had them call me deluded, naive, weak-minded etc.

Equally there are some people with faith who can be just as pompus.

Exactly. Which means threads like this are redundant as it's not a trait specific to atheists. He should just change the word "atheists" to "condescending and/or arrogant pricks." I'm sure everyone would agree with it.

Unfortunately, he didn't do that, and this has just led to useless bickering that will never end because both sides are right-- people of each side (and every other side imaginable) can be dicks, because it's not the belief they hold, it's their personality. So what the feck is the point starting this thread at all?

Gunsfortoys

FoxT wrote: »

I have been exploring boards a bit lately & there are Atheists & some LGBT folks as well who are really militant.

Don't take it too seriously.

Bertrand Russell observed early in the 20th century that 'The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the foolish are cocksure, whilst the intelligent are full of doubt'.

- FoxT

Thanks, how else would we know your username.

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

Are you Catholic?

What has that got to do with anything?

In any case I am not starting that again. I got into that on A&A and caused a bit of trouble I think so not going there.

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

What has that got to do with anything?

In any case I am not starting that again. I got into that on A&A and caused a bit of trouble I think so not going there.

Lol, denying your faith now. It's a start.

Burning Eclipse

Mods, please lock this thread. It adds nothing to a massive thread that's probably not even 3 pages back. Please don't let this crap start again.

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

Lol, denying your faith now. It's a start.

Erm no I am not denying anything. I just don't want to start an argument like the last time.

Again what has this got to do with the thread?

liah

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Erm no I am not denying anything. I just don't want to start an argument like the last time.

Again what has this got to do with the thread?

Don't bother responding, he's just baiting you, it is AH after all.

TheZohanS

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Erm no I am not denying anything.

So you're a Catholic?

AudreyHepburn

TheZohan wrote: »

So you're a Catholic?

Give it a rest.

curlzy

Burning Eclipse wrote: »

Mods, please lock this thread. It adds nothing to a massive thread that's probably not even 3 pages back. Please don't let this crap start again.

TOTALLY DISAGREE. We should rile people up even more, here goes: athesists and religious people are all arrogant, deluded idiots!!!!!!!!!!!

AudreyHepburn

liah wrote: »

Don't bother responding, he's just baiting you, it is AH after all.

I know. I'm wondering why?

Deus Ex Machina

Forget atheism being the new religion, it seems that debate about religious debate is now the new religious debate.

Either way it is utterly yawn inducing.

Dravokivich

I don't despise anyone based on their religious beliefs...

...I despise people who are gobshítes

curlzy

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I know. I'm wondering why?

Take the bait and then vomit it up all over him. Tell him your muslim and then proceed to call him racist, he'll love that.

liah

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

I know. I'm wondering why?

Well, AH is generally the place to take the piss out of each other, he knows he can push the boundaries without breaking charter and he probably sees you as someone easy to rile up.

If you want an honest discussion it's best to just ignore blatantly leading comments like that catholic bit.

Son Of A Vidic

seamus wrote: »

a big bearded sky-dwelling prick who has no respect for human life and who sets sets unreasonable, unreachable and downright sadistic goals for people in order to be "saved".

Perhaps if mankind started respecting human life it would be a start. Hearsay is dangerous -"Hey, I was up in the mountain and I met this God guy..." All hearsay, try a game of Chinese whispers and what you get at the end relates in know way to what was said at the start. So I wouldn't blame any God for mankind's use of artistic license.

sbsquarepants

For my part, i am an out and out atheist, i actually despise religion of all types, i don't differentiate between, catholic, muslim, jew, pagan, rastafarian, i tar you all with the one brush and make no apology whatsover for doing so! However, i have never once felt the need to point that out to anybody without them FIRST having brought up the subject of religion to begin with.
Nobody has ever tried to shove atheism down my throat or to convince me there is no god, but i couldn't possibly count the number of times someone has tried to convince me of the opposite! There are no atheist missions around the world (that i know of anyway) There aren't too many atheist suicide bombers, or honour killings.
Only god/religion provokes and inspires such cruelty and evil in people.

TheZohanS

liah wrote: »

Well, AH is generally the place to take the piss out of each other, he knows he can push the boundaries without breaking charter and he probably sees you as someone easy to rile up.

If you want an honest discussion it's best to just ignore blatantly leading comments like that catholic bit.

Lol, says the "internetz gurl". You're giving the rest of us a bad name.

sbsquarepants

medicman2009 wrote: »

. So I wouldn't blame any God for mankind's use of artistic license.

If he created both mankind and their artistic licence, why wouldn't he be to blame?
Isn't that kind of like saying i only made the bomb, i didn't actually kill anybody?

Snakeblood

sbsquarepants wrote: »

If he created both mankind and their artistic licence, why wouldn't he be to blame?
Isn't that kind of like saying i only made the bomb, i didn't actually kill anybody?

You're revealing a hard edge to your thinking that frankly your cartoon gave no indication of.

optogirl

Patricide wrote: »

Ok its very seldom I start a thread on AH but there is something that really has been pissing me off as of late.

Atheists!

Now dont get me wrong, im far from a right wing religious nut. Its just that recently with all these retarded threads, and with a lot of my friends its the exact same **** over and over. Even if we would so much as mention the church here or every time i would in real life pass a a church with my friends the following would ensues:

"you believe in something, o your retarded, your wrong, science is the only constant in this world, there is no proof for anything you believe in, rabble rabble"

"but i dont really believe..."

"rabble rabble rabble, church is wrong, everyone is an idiot except atheists rabble rabble"

90% of the time I feel like im dealing with born again christians trying to convert me rather than "scientific minds". And the thing is these are the same people who usually freak out if they see some religious guy so much as handing out flyers on the street.

Tl;dr : Atheists, we get it, you believe in nothing, you find it illogical that people do. However there is no need to shout it from the rooftops every 5 minutes, I dont see any catholic people taking such an aggressive stance(except the right wing nuts).

All atheists are not the same - it's extremists in all beliefs/disbeliefs that try to ram their opinions down peoples throats. On boards, to be fair, it is usually a discussion so of course they are going to put their argument forward. It wouldn't be much of a discussion site if everyone just sat back in respect of others beliefs. I agree that some atheists can be overbearing however if I am involved in a discussion about religion I'm going to be honest about what I feel. It seems that many people are offended by the very declaration of atheism by atheists.

mikerowsopht

But do you believe in GOD ?
or
Are you an Atheist ?

If you believe in GOD, why, where is the proof

etc
etc

lol

optogirl

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes, I find a lot of the more vocal ones are as bad as the fundamentalists of the religions they so despise..

Are they any more vocal than a priest or religious person? Why should atheists keep quiet in the debate of religion?

prinz

mikerowsopht wrote: »

But do you believe in GOD ?
or
Are you an Atheist ?
If you believe in GOD, why, where is the proof
etc
etc
lol

Didn't get the answers you were looking for in your own thread, no?

Bookworm85

Patricide wrote: »

Ok its very seldom I start a thread on AH but there is something that really has been pissing me off as of late.

Atheists!

Now dont get me wrong, im far from a right wing religious nut. Its just that recently with all these retarded threads, and with a lot of my friends its the exact same **** over and over. Even if we would so much as mention the church here or every time i would in real life pass a a church with my friends the following would ensues:

"you believe in something, o your retarded, your wrong, science is the only constant in this world, there is no proof for anything you believe in, rabble rabble"

"but i dont really believe..."

"rabble rabble rabble, church is wrong, everyone is an idiot except atheists rabble rabble"

90% of the time I feel like im dealing with born again christians trying to convert me rather than "scientific minds". And the thing is these are the same people who usually freak out if they see some religious guy so much as handing out flyers on the street.

Tl;dr : Atheists, we get it, you believe in nothing, you find it illogical that people do. However there is no need to shout it from the rooftops every 5 minutes, I dont see any catholic people taking such an aggressive stance(except the right wing nuts).

As an atheist, this kinda sh!t really gets my back up. I have NEVER shouted my lack of belief from any roof top, but if and when my lack of belief gets brought up in conversation, I do get attacked by catholics & christians. I regular have to defend myself from people like you.

If I don't want to baptise my kids, or get married in a church then its got SFA to do with you. I'll not believe whatever the hell I don't want to believe - its none of your business.

And anyway, this was already battled out in a recent thread. No need to drag it all back up again.

optogirl

PanchoVilla wrote: »

Agreed. Atheism is the new religious fundamentalism. Funny that.

Nope. Not funny or true.

thebigbiffo

i dont believe in god or rabbling about same at every given opportunity