The next election

Gary L

I think its fairly safe to say that FF will take a drop in the next election so I wanted to test the water here and see what way people are leaning. For the sake of clarity, I've only included parties with sitting TD's/MEP's.

Jesus Wept

None of the above/Re-open nominations.

OPENROAD

I thought this was done last week.

Anyway none of the above, have heard absolutely nothing from the opposition that inspires confidence.

JONJO THE MISER

Well would vote F.G, no way in the world would i vote labour, full of waffle from the likes of Eamon Gilmore and Joan Burton, lets not forget the labour party are in the pockets of the unions and who was it that gave a civic reception at taxpayers cost to pamela izevbekhai but the mayor of Sligo a labour woman, they dont fool me (maybe they fool jackeens) nor a lot of other people in the country, i would prefer F.F than that shower.

questionmark?

OPENROAD wrote: »

I thought this was done last week.

Anyway none of the above, have heard absolutely nothing from the opposition that inspires confidence.

So are you going to vote for an Independent or not vote at all?

PeterIanStaker

It doesn't matter who gains, loses, gets voted in or out. It wont make a blind bit of difference.

The country is f*cked and unfixable.

There is no solution - one may as well perform CPR on a week old decapitated corpse as try to balance the books.

Also OP never underestimate the sheer stupidity/tribalism of voters, especially FF ones.

OPENROAD

questionmark? wrote: »

So are you going to vote for an Independent or not vote at all?

Will probably vote independent, I have always voted and I will always vote, but the standard here is appalling imo, really is very very bad. I have listened to the opposition quite a bit during our crisis and I really do despair.

OPENROAD

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

It doesn't matter who gains, loses, gets voted in or out. It wont make a blind bit of difference.

The country is f*cked and unfixable.

There is no solution - one may as well perform CPR on a week old decapitated corpse as try to balance the books.

Also OP never underestimate the sheer stupidity/tribalism of voters, especially FF ones.

I wouldn't say that, but I don't think we(the Irish) can fix it

battries not included

BNP

mikemac

Independent of course.

Someone who will look out for the constituency.
And our independent TD tops the polls every time by doing this

FreudianSlippers

Independent as well - thread fail for having no option for that.

galwayrush

4 people so far think FF should be rewarded for the woeful job the've done over the past few years,:eek:

Biggins

Had there been an Independent option, I would have went for that.

FF/FG are two sides of the same coin and frankly, one is as bad as the other.
Both up to their necks in the expenses issues and both in bed with the banks and developers.

Son Of A Vidic

Options are pretty limited, you would think the present climate would be an ideal time for a new political party/option to form.

senordingdong

I clicked Fine Gael, because that's who I've been supporting for some time now.

But them keeping their heads low throughout the expenses scandals has left me wondering.

Sykk

6 FF votes..

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thebigbiffo

i'll vote independent if there are any useful candidates.

i'm afraid (literally!) to say that other than that i'll vote FF. i'm of the belief they've got the best handles on the big bucket of s'hite they contributed to creating so they might as well keep cleaning it up.

there shoud be major reforms of the political system though, expenses are a joke, salaries too high and not enough accountability on a rolling level with the public.

senordingdong

thebigbiffo wrote: »

there shoud be major reforms of the political system though, expenses are a joke, salaries too high and not enough accountability on a rolling level with the public.

I think Labour or Socialist are the only ones with the balls to tackle those problems.

Not even Sinn Fein would...

orourkeda

I wont believe that FF will lose the next election until it happens. I have no confidence in the Irish Electorate to correct the mistake they've made in the last three elections.

Napper Hawkins

If FF get it again then seriously, **** Ireland, I'm never coming back.

senordingdong

orourkeda wrote: »

I wont believe that FF will lose the next election until it happens. I have no confidence in the Irish Electorate to correct the mistake they've made in the last three elections.

In fairness, with so much of Irelands 'wealth' in bed with Fianna Fail, I think they've a very good chance at winning the next election.

Biggins

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

If FF get it again then seriously, **** Ireland, I'm never coming back.

Same here, seriously.
In the unlikelihood they do get back, on their own or by co-sharing, I will be looking to move my family lock, stock and barrel out.

I love my country but when the parish pump sheep of this country are continuously being stupid with no sign of kopping on, there is only so much punishment one can take at their hands.

senordingdong

A few interesting points...

Biggins wrote: »

Same here, seriously.
In the unlikelihood they do get back, on their own or by co-sharing, I will be looking to move my family lock, stock and barrel out.

Completely understand where you are coming from here, but this is, in a roundabout way, a contributing factor to FF support.
How many people have left the country this year? And how many of them were unsatisfied with FF?
Whereas, the FF supporters, from the farmers right up to the bankers, stay and continue to support them.

Snakeblood

Sykk wrote: »

6 FF votes..

Don't underestimate the learning difficulties vote.

Mr Freeze

Sykk wrote: »

6 FF votes..

They will walk back in if there is an election in the morning!!!

And I think a vote for Labour, is a vote for FF too, just my opinion (/guards face), but I think they will form a coalition with FF for the next government.

Its sad to see Cowen go around the country opening new buildings and attending functions and ordinary people getting their photos taken with him, all smiles, what the hell is wrong with them???

Anyways, I dunno whats wrong with the Irish People, they voted FF back in last time, and they will do it again.

GavRedKing

I went with Labour, but my main gripe is the Greens, I wouldnt mine who has gains once its not the Greens.

Snakeblood

gavredking wrote: »

I went with Labour, but my main gripe is the Greens, I wouldnt mine who has gains once its not the Greens.

So if Fianna Fail gains you'd be happy enough?

Biggins

senordingdong wrote: »

A few interesting points...

Completely understand where you are coming from here, but this is, in a roundabout way, a contributing factor to FF support.
How many people have left the country this year? And how many of them were unsatisfied with FF?
Whereas, the FF supporters, from the farmers right up to the bankers, stay and continue to support them.

All true and accurate.
If FF get back in, I will be urging non-ff supporters to evacuate the country and leave the FF muppets to their own mess thereafter.
In the meanwhile there is only so much beating one can take in the name of loyalty to one country, before the body collapses or you get away from those doing the beating completely in order to live.

GavRedKing

Snakeblood wrote: »

So if Fianna Fail gains you'd be happy enough?

They wont be getting my vote but i do expect them to get back in TBH and knowning that, it doesnt really bother me.

The main reason im not to bothered is, I dont think anyone party can fix the country the way it is at the moment, yes i understand it was mainly down to FF why this country is in the hole it is in, but can one party or one coaliation fix it? I highly douby it IMO, next election will be interesting to see how many people vote FF.

senordingdong

Biggins wrote: »

All true and accurate.
If FF get back in, I will be urging non-ff supporters to evacuate the country and leave the FF muppets to their own mess thereafter.
In the meanwhile there is only so much beating one can take in the name of loyalty to one country, before the body collapses or you get away from those doing the beating completely in order to live.

True that.

I want Michael O'Leary to run for office.

MingulayJohnny

I'd like to see major political reform and a change in our priorities as a country. I think it's hard to get the full picture if you're not an 'insider' though. Sometimes I watch Vincent Browne and I'm reminded of what that fella Terry Bellefleur in True Blood said when asked about what some politician was saying on TV , "I can't listen to politicians anymore - I get seizures...".

I'm not loyal to any party , though I'd prob be classified as a social democrat politically. I certainly don't agree with the actions that Fianna Fail and their shills the Greens have taken. The state of the health service just represents everything about Fianna Fail's priorities to me. I'd be on the same page as Brian Lucey when it comes to NAMA.

I don't agree with our overreliance on multinationals and lack of self sufficiency as a country. I chose Labour because I think that if and when they get into government there will be such a focus on them that it will put a fire in under their ass. If Fine Gael are in coalition with them hopefully they will balance each other out. Maybe I'm being naive in thinking this. At this stage the best we can hope for is damage limitation and job creation as soon as possible.