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The next election

  • 20-10-2010 12:49am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭


    I think its fairly safe to say that FF will take a drop in the next election so I wanted to test the water here and see what way people are leaning. For the sake of clarity, I've only included parties with sitting TD's/MEP's.

    Who would you like to see gain in the next election? 131 votes

    Fianna Fail
    0% 0 votes
    Fine Gael
    14% 19 votes
    Labour
    31% 41 votes
    Green
    37% 49 votes
    Sinn Fein
    2% 3 votes
    Socialist
    14% 19 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    None of the above/Re-open nominations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I thought this was done last week.

    Anyway none of the above, have heard absolutely nothing from the opposition that inspires confidence.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Well would vote F.G, no way in the world would i vote labour, full of waffle from the likes of Eamon Gilmore and Joan Burton, lets not forget the labour party are in the pockets of the unions and who was it that gave a civic reception at taxpayers cost to pamela izevbekhai but the mayor of Sligo a labour woman, they dont fool me (maybe they fool jackeens) nor a lot of other people in the country, i would prefer F.F than that shower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    I thought this was done last week.

    Anyway none of the above, have heard absolutely nothing from the opposition that inspires confidence.

    So are you going to vote for an Independent or not vote at all?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    It doesn't matter who gains, loses, gets voted in or out. It wont make a blind bit of difference.

    The country is f*cked and unfixable.

    There is no solution - one may as well perform CPR on a week old decapitated corpse as try to balance the books.

    Also OP never underestimate the sheer stupidity/tribalism of voters, especially FF ones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    So are you going to vote for an Independent or not vote at all?

    Will probably vote independent, I have always voted and I will always vote, but the standard here is appalling imo, really is very very bad. I have listened to the opposition quite a bit during our crisis and I really do despair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    It doesn't matter who gains, loses, gets voted in or out. It wont make a blind bit of difference.

    The country is f*cked and unfixable.

    There is no solution - one may as well perform CPR on a week old decapitated corpse as try to balance the books.

    Also OP never underestimate the sheer stupidity/tribalism of voters, especially FF ones.

    I wouldn't say that, but I don't think we(the Irish) can fix it :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭battries not included


    BNP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Independent of course.

    Someone who will look out for the constituency.
    And our independent TD tops the polls every time by doing this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Independent as well - thread fail for having no option for that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    4 people so far think FF should be rewarded for the woeful job the've done over the past few years,:eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Had there been an Independent option, I would have went for that.

    FF/FG are two sides of the same coin and frankly, one is as bad as the other.
    Both up to their necks in the expenses issues and both in bed with the banks and developers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Options are pretty limited, you would think the present climate would be an ideal time for a new political party/option to form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    I clicked Fine Gael, because that's who I've been supporting for some time now.

    But them keeping their heads low throughout the expenses scandals has left me wondering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    6 FF votes..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    i'll vote independent if there are any useful candidates.

    i'm afraid (literally!) to say that other than that i'll vote FF. i'm of the belief they've got the best handles on the big bucket of s'hite they contributed to creating so they might as well keep cleaning it up.

    there shoud be major reforms of the political system though, expenses are a joke, salaries too high and not enough accountability on a rolling level with the public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    there shoud be major reforms of the political system though, expenses are a joke, salaries too high and not enough accountability on a rolling level with the public.

    I think Labour or Socialist are the only ones with the balls to tackle those problems.

    Not even Sinn Fein would...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    I wont believe that FF will lose the next election until it happens. I have no confidence in the Irish Electorate to correct the mistake they've made in the last three elections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭Napper Hawkins


    If FF get it again then seriously, **** Ireland, I'm never coming back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    orourkeda wrote: »
    I wont believe that FF will lose the next election until it happens. I have no confidence in the Irish Electorate to correct the mistake they've made in the last three elections.

    In fairness, with so much of Irelands 'wealth' in bed with Fianna Fail, I think they've a very good chance at winning the next election.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    If FF get it again then seriously, **** Ireland, I'm never coming back.
    Same here, seriously.
    In the unlikelihood they do get back, on their own or by co-sharing, I will be looking to move my family lock, stock and barrel out.

    I love my country but when the parish pump sheep of this country are continuously being stupid with no sign of kopping on, there is only so much punishment one can take at their hands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    A few interesting points...
    Biggins wrote: »
    Same here, seriously.
    In the unlikelihood they do get back, on their own or by co-sharing, I will be looking to move my family lock, stock and barrel out.
    Completely understand where you are coming from here, but this is, in a roundabout way, a contributing factor to FF support.
    How many people have left the country this year? And how many of them were unsatisfied with FF?
    Whereas, the FF supporters, from the farmers right up to the bankers, stay and continue to support them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Sykk wrote: »
    6 FF votes..

    Don't underestimate the learning difficulties vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Sykk wrote: »
    6 FF votes..

    They will walk back in if there is an election in the morning!!!

    And I think a vote for Labour, is a vote for FF too, just my opinion (/guards face), but I think they will form a coalition with FF for the next government.

    Its sad to see Cowen go around the country opening new buildings and attending functions and ordinary people getting their photos taken with him, all smiles, what the hell is wrong with them???

    Anyways, I dunno whats wrong with the Irish People, they voted FF back in last time, and they will do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    I went with Labour, but my main gripe is the Greens, I wouldnt mine who has gains once its not the Greens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    gavredking wrote: »
    I went with Labour, but my main gripe is the Greens, I wouldnt mine who has gains once its not the Greens.

    So if Fianna Fail gains you'd be happy enough?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    A few interesting points...

    Completely understand where you are coming from here, but this is, in a roundabout way, a contributing factor to FF support.
    How many people have left the country this year? And how many of them were unsatisfied with FF?
    Whereas, the FF supporters, from the farmers right up to the bankers, stay and continue to support them.

    All true and accurate.
    If FF get back in, I will be urging non-ff supporters to evacuate the country and leave the FF muppets to their own mess thereafter.
    In the meanwhile there is only so much beating one can take in the name of loyalty to one country, before the body collapses or you get away from those doing the beating completely in order to live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Snakeblood wrote: »
    So if Fianna Fail gains you'd be happy enough?

    They wont be getting my vote but i do expect them to get back in TBH and knowning that, it doesnt really bother me.

    The main reason im not to bothered is, I dont think anyone party can fix the country the way it is at the moment, yes i understand it was mainly down to FF why this country is in the hole it is in, but can one party or one coaliation fix it? I highly douby it IMO, next election will be interesting to see how many people vote FF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    Biggins wrote: »
    All true and accurate.
    If FF get back in, I will be urging non-ff supporters to evacuate the country and leave the FF muppets to their own mess thereafter.
    In the meanwhile there is only so much beating one can take in the name of loyalty to one country, before the body collapses or you get away from those doing the beating completely in order to live.

    True that.

    I want Michael O'Leary to run for office.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭MingulayJohnny


    I'd like to see major political reform and a change in our priorities as a country. I think it's hard to get the full picture if you're not an 'insider' though. Sometimes I watch Vincent Browne and I'm reminded of what that fella Terry Bellefleur in True Blood said when asked about what some politician was saying on TV , "I can't listen to politicians anymore - I get seizures...".

    I'm not loyal to any party , though I'd prob be classified as a social democrat politically. I certainly don't agree with the actions that Fianna Fail and their shills the Greens have taken. The state of the health service just represents everything about Fianna Fail's priorities to me. I'd be on the same page as Brian Lucey when it comes to NAMA.

    I don't agree with our overreliance on multinationals and lack of self sufficiency as a country. I chose Labour because I think that if and when they get into government there will be such a focus on them that it will put a fire in under their ass. If Fine Gael are in coalition with them hopefully they will balance each other out. Maybe I'm being naive in thinking this. At this stage the best we can hope for is damage limitation and job creation as soon as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    i voted FF for a laugh thinking id be the only one :( 9 people beat me to it!:eek:

    so much for trying to be original! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    i voted FF for a laugh thinking id be the only one :( 9 people beat me to it!:eek:

    so much for trying to be original! :o

    Hopefully you wont try that election day! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    i voted FF

    CKWPORT wrote: »
    Hopefully you wont try that election day! :D

    Sadly about 20% of the voters probably will next election,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    FF will be down on the the last election but significantly up on the opinion polls. ie their next election results will be alot better than current opinion polls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Sadly about 20% of the voters probably will next election,

    Sadly I think they will get a lot more than 20%!

    I won't be surprised to see them stay in government!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,207 ✭✭✭meditraitor


    CKWPORT wrote: »
    Sadly I think they will get a lot more than 20%!

    I won't be surprised to see them stay in government!

    Are you intentionally trying to ruin my day:( if those lying thieving malcontents get back in government Im buying a gun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    CKWPORT wrote: »
    Hopefully you wont try that election day! :D


    God no :eek: I'm voting independant! :D i know when to be serious and when to be funny*!



    *disclaimer may not be funny 99% of the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Good to see the Green Party are holding their own, with one vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭Awful_Bliss


    Shocking to see so many people vote for FF. They probably say, "ah sure who else is there?" Your lives are gonna be truly hurt for the next God knows how many years because of them. I'm going for Fine Gael. They're not perfect (George Lee situation, pro Lisbon Treaty, leadership debacle) but they're a whole lot believable than FF.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl


    Are you intentionally trying to ruin my day:( if those lying thieving malcontents get back in government Im buying a gun.

    it would be worse if the lying thieving bullies FG got in....you have to do what they say or when they are in power they'd get you fired :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    Well not ff anyway... I would need to see what the parties policies were for fixing this mess.
    Tempted to get a form for them to sign when they come to the door with their false promises, stating what they will do (not their intentions) about this that and the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,555 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    Shocking to see so many people vote for FF. They probably say, "ah sure who else is there?" .

    They probably dont

    Thats an assumption


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    The funny thing is, FF will get the majority of the vote. People really haven't a clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    Are you intentionally trying to ruin my day:( if those lying thieving malcontents get back in government Im buying a gun.

    Sorry!

    Its the old stock FF and their offspring, that will vote FF again and again.

    I really hope they get destroyed in the next election, and that its 20 years* before they get into government again!!!

    *Never would be preferable but we have to be realistic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,673 ✭✭✭✭senordingdong


    SarahBeep! wrote: »

    That's all well and good, except voting for nobody is what the majority of this country does already.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    In fairness, with so much of Irelands 'wealth' in bed with Fianna Fail, I think they've a very good chance at winning the next election.

    Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Copper23


    you have to do what they say or when they are in power they'd get you fired :rolleyes:

    WTF? Sure isn't that the way, governments deliberately putting half the work force out of a job for no reason. That'll sort everything :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Good to see the Green Party are holding their own, with one vote.

    that's one vote too many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    CKWPORT wrote: »
    And I think a vote for Labour, is a vote for FF too, just my opinion (/guards face), but I think they will form a coalition with FF for the next government.

    This is just scaremongering. There is no way Labour will go into Government with the eFFers.

    Anyone who spouts this line is just scared ****less of the gains Labour are going to make at the next election.


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