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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    bijapos wrote: »
    Its spelt Sinn Fein not "Feinn"

    .

    They might be the best option if you want to see cannabis legalised. They have a pretty good track record in organising and consolidating the local street drug industry in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    Labour hasn't outlined how it intends to deal with the Economic crisis...

    It hasn't even released any policy information... so I'm not really sure how they have so much support? They could sink the country in a week I fear... and the people that vote for them would be non the wiser...

    So why vote Labour folks, if you don't actually know what they'll do?

    Pretty much the exact post I was going to put up here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Why is the Internet Occupants Party on this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,379 ✭✭✭thebigcheese22


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    Labour hasn't outlined how it intends to deal with the Economic crisis...

    It hasn't even released any policy information... so I'm not really sure how they have so much support? They could sink the country in a week I fear... and the people that vote for them would be non the wiser...

    So why vote Labour folks, if you don't actually know what they'll do?

    http://www.labour.ie/policy/ :rolleyes:

    Fair enough if you don't like the policies but at least acknowledge they friggin exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭seven-iron


    hobochris wrote: »
    Is this an attempt at Trolling?

    If you didn't understand my response its ok.

    Your username seems very apt. Although thats an insult to hobos who aren't idiots.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    http://www.labour.ie/policy/ :rolleyes:

    Fair enough if you don't like the policies but at least acknowledge they friggin exist.

    Would you do us all a favour, and copy and paste what they intend to do about the Economic crisis... because I can't find any... As far as I can see, and probably many others, they are playing the 'hope' card without actually saying (or knowing maybe) what they'ld do once in government to make this country economically great again...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Alter-Ego


    Laour, assuming they lock Joan Burton in a box.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Alter-Ego wrote: »
    Laour, assuming they lock Joan Burton in a box.

    But why vote Labour? What do you think they can do for you and for the country? Given that we haven't seen any policy on the bailouts & budgets... enlighten us please!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭Jeboa Safari


    seven-iron wrote: »
    If you didn't understand my response its ok.

    Your username seems very apt. Although thats an insult to hobos who aren't idiots.

    Do they actually say how they'll do anything they've named there?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,309 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    Labour/independents look like the only option.
    Enda is a plank and no way I'm going near FF


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭ILA


    Shinners


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Couldn't choose two, so had to just choose Labour, but if there were 2 options the other would be independent.

    FG might get a preference from me if they get their act together.

    All others listed ruled out due to various crimes against Ireland.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,051 ✭✭✭trebor28


    why isnt there a,
    "spoilt vote: lets all get together and show these guys that we hve no faith in any of these politicians, we need a new revamp of our whole governing system" tick box


  • Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Ultimanemo


    Hope they get no where near government, they'd be even worse than the greens
    No one is worse than the greens. the only contribution they make is they block everything and ask for more tax, if they get the power we will die of starvation, only rabbits and frogs will flourish, I call the greens the watermelons because they are green on the outside red in the inside


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    Labour hasn't outlined how it intends to deal with the Economic crisis...

    It hasn't even released any policy information... so I'm not really sure how they have so much support? They could sink the country in a week I fear... and the people that vote for them would be non the wiser...

    So why vote Labour folks, if you don't actually know what they'll do?


    Do you wait until you hit the sea bed before you start trying to swim?


  • Registered Users Posts: 43 ken2010


    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-a_IhLANuIG36NV5j1NEPstz1aPNzBRpHt9R0Fvse_PYyz_U&t=1&usg=__njgVL5pS1umz7dOznD2Wp-XGFDQ=he cant be any worse than the other muppet that are running the country


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    How about an option for "not voting"?

    Up until now, I have always lambasted people for not voting as I saw it as such an important civil duty.

    But it's got to the stage now that I feel so dismayed that I really don't think I'll vote for anyone. There is nobody in Dáil Eireann that I think could help us at this stage.

    I wish some credible, skilled, talented, knowledgable, qualified people would be willing to run, or be encouraged by a movement of the people to run e.g. Shane Ross or some group of economists who actually know what they're doing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    kraggy wrote: »
    How about an option for "not voting"?

    Up until now, I have always lambasted people for not voting as I saw it as such an important civil duty.

    But it's got to the stage now that I feel so dismayed that I really don't think I'll vote for anyone. There is nobody in Dáil Eireann that I think could help us at this stage.

    If you dont do it, you are leaving the door open for somebody to make the decision for you. And there are die hards out there who will vote for a particular party no matter how much the fcuk over the electorate. I feel the same. Would like somebody else, a bit of fresh are, but thats not an option this time around.

    I voted Fine Geal in the poll. They will get my preferences in the next election with Labour next.

    As long as there is breath in my lungs (and I'm a young man) i will NEVER vote Fianna Fail for what they have done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Owwmykneecap


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    I will not accept voting for a party that doesn't have a clue what they are going to do... you might, but I do not.

    I think Lenihan and FF might be a good way to go


    This country hasn't a hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    I will not accept voting for a party that doesn't have a clue what they are going to do... you might, but I do not.

    I think Lenihan and FF might be a good way to go

    hmmm, interesting


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    Dave McWilliams fTW


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭bobblepuzzle


    If somebody could give a valid reason for voting Labour, it would be great! Just one even!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    I'll be voting Labour because they're not Fianna Fail or Fine Gael (same FF policies, different packaging).

    Reason enough for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,513 ✭✭✭jaffa20


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    OK, you are an absolute eijit tbh... you will vote for a party with no aims.. .I really hope there isn't many like you!

    You might not want to look at the poll then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭seven-iron


    Fianna Fail will stay in government after the GE next May/June for many reasons.

    A) FF have bailed out the financial sector and not individuals (via pension gaurantees). Ok I admit, it is socialism for capitalists but our economy will return to growth sooner

    B) FF unlike FG & L can play the FDI game. In that they can sell Ireland Inc to multinationals and other govts. This will be important in the years ahead in creating jobs.

    C) As stated in a previous post; they are not hitting the wealthy with (relatively) increased taxes. This will filter down into the rest of the economy

    D) No credible alternative to lead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Cmdr Keen wrote: »
    OK, you are an absolute eijit tbh... you will vote for a party with no aims.. .I really hope there isn't many like you!

    I don't agree with all of Labour's policies, just with enough of them to think that they'll be competent enough to serve a few years in power. On the other hand, I do feel that the current mob have been in power for too long, have become corrupted by their extended run in power, have been unapologetic and unimaginative in their response to the economic crisis, have exerted insufficient pressure on securing recompense/convictions on the most destructive of the 'Golden Circle'. The performance of my local FF TD has been pretty dismal, the FG one no better. I don't feel either represent me nor do they do anything to contribute to the betterment of the country or even the constituency they are supposed to represent. I will never vote SF. The Greens live in a fantasy world.

    So I'll be voting Labour. Don't see how that makes me an eejit. Lay off the insults.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 451 ✭✭seven-iron


    jaffa20 wrote: »
    You might not want to look at the poll then.


    If Labour get into office, we are turning the lights off in Ireland for a generation.

    People think they are making the decision to vote for Labour rationally. They need to start thinking why they want to vote for them, and not this 'voting in spite of others' carry on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    Its frightening to see there are people who would still vote for FF after all that has happened


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    seven-iron wrote: »
    If Labour get into office, we are turning the lights off in Ireland for a generation.

    People think they are making the decision to vote for Labour rationally. They need to start thinking why they want to vote for them, and not this 'voting in spite of others' carry on.

    People are as entitled to vote parties out of power as into it. Personally I don't believe that keeping a 'steady hand' in the form of Lenihan et al is reason enough for keeping a party guilty of extreme negligence in power. A spell out of power would give FF the chance to regroup, reform, get rid of the deadwood, the incompetents, the cronyists and maybe make the party shake itself up enough to realise that they can't screw over the country and not expect consequences.

    I would hope that creating a stronger Labour party would create a normal left-right political spectrum, eventually seeing the merger of FF and FG, presumably with some diehards going independent or forming splinter parties. FF and FG are the same, and having them as the 2 main parties has been totally unhealthy for Ireland in terms of political and intellectual debate. This might not be the ideal time to try and force a change in the status quo, but the status quo is diseased and corrupt and if not now, when?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    I really don't know who I will vote for, having listened to people from the major parties the last week, I really do worry, very depressing :(:(:(:(


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