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Student kills self after web cam'ed with male lover

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    #32
    Pookah
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    There's an epidemic of them this week.


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    #33
    hobochris
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    fakearms123 wrote: »
    Gay student kills himself after being secretly filmed having sex with another man without consent by two other students, this film was broadcast onto the internet!

    Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11446034



    The guy was in the closet and when he found out that his secret sex act was recorded and broadcast by his friends, he jumped off a bridge!

    Crazy!

    some friends He has/had.


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    #34
    Beaucoupfish
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    This is terrible and shocking story.


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    #35
    PaddyBomb
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    fakearms123 wrote: »
    Gay student kills himself....

    He mustn't have been very happy if he killed himself.



    Oh, he was the other kind of gay....


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    #36
    abouttobebanned
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    Probably best to not post anything serious on after hours.


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    #37
    thebigbiffo
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    if they'd have caught both major incidents on film it'd be like pornosnuff, a new genre


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    #38
    domrush
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    Jesus poor guy.
    RIP


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    #39
    AnnyHallsal
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    It's dreadful.


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    #40
    Insect Overlord
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    That's an awful story. Hard to imagine how all involved did what they did.
    Pookah wrote: »
    There's an epidemic of them this week.

    What other incidents were they?


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    #41
    IvyTheTerrible
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    People really need to think more about the consequences of their actions.

    Poor guy.


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    #42
    General Zod
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    4 gay teems have killed themselves in september alone in the US.

    with regard to the OP, it's a tragedy. Not just the fear that caused the guy to kill himself, but for the two people who filmed the guy, who probably had no idea it would go this far. A few minutes of giggles from brainless, albeit stupid, prank will be on their concience for the rest fo their lives.

    It says a huge amount about societies opinion of homosexuality that suicide is considered a viable option :(


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    #43
    timetogetfit
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    He looks like Tobi Mcguire, maybe he thought he was Spiderman


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    #44
    kfallon
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    fakearms123 wrote: »
    The guy was in the closet and when he found out that his secret sex act was recorded and broadcast by his friends, he jumped off a bridge

    Sounds like the guy who recorded it was in the closet too.........


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    #45
    Morlar
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    General Zod wrote: »
    It says a huge amount about societies opinion of homosexuality that suicide is considered a viable option :(

    There was a chef who also killed himself this week after appearing on gordon ramsey. I suppose that one said a 'huge amount about the position in society of vulnerable chefs' ?


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    #46
    WindSock
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    General Zod wrote: »
    with regard to the OP, it's a tragedy. Not just the fear that caused the guy to kill himself, but for the two people who filmed the guy, who probably had no idea it would go this far. A few minutes of giggles from brainless, albeit stupid, prank will be on their concience for the rest fo their lives.

    Filming anyone having sex without their consent and sticking it on the net, is beyond a prank, imo. It's a horrible thing to do to anyone.


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    #47
    Snakeblood
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    That's terrible.


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    #48
    Procasinator
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    Filming (and broadcasting) someone without their knowledge is a terrible thing to do, homosexual or not.

    Obviously for the student it was harder again having both the act and his hidden sexuality exposed to all. And they should be charged and punished.

    Whether or not it was "bullying" because he was homosexual is another thing.


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    #49
    marco_polo
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    Morlar wrote: »
    There was a chef who also killed himself this week after appearing on gordon ramsey. I suppose that one said a 'huge amount about the position in society of vulnerable chefs' ?

    Pretty poor effort. Unless he killed himself because he was bullied for being a chef, or because somebody was about to post a secret video of him cooking food on the internet, then it doesn't say a 'huge amount about the position in society of vulnerable chefs'.


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    #50
    Morlar
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    marco_polo wrote: »
    Unless he killed himself because he was bullied for being a chef, or because somebody was about to post a secret video of him cooking food on the internet, then it doesn't say a 'huge amount about the position in society of vulnerable chefs'.

    Actually, he was filmed by Gordon Ramsey and footage included him being berated by Gordon Ramsey for being a bad chef.


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    #51
    twinQuins
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    What exactly is your point, Morlar?


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    #52
    Min
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    What the flatmates did was totally wrong, what the person who killed himself did says a lot about how he viewed what he was doing - it brought shame and embarrassment that he couldn't live with when it became exposed.
    It is what he was caught doing that led him to killing himself, we have not heard anything about the man he was having sex with, he seemingly didn't take such drastic actions.

    There is probably something to charge the flatmates with, like invasion of privacy.


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    #53
    AnnyHallsal
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    The analogy doesn't hold up. There's no shame attached to being a chef. There's still a lot of homophobia around. I know a number of people who have been disowned by their families because of their sexuality. No-one has the right to expose anyone's sexuality, nor should they. And as Windsock said, if someone put a film of me having sex on the internet I would be bereft.


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    #54
    General Zod
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    WindSock wrote: »
    Filming anyone having sex without their consent and sticking it on the net, is beyond a prank, imo. It's a horrible thing to do to anyone.


    I never said it was not a horrible thing to do, because it was. If they engaged their brain for more than a second they might have realised that, instead they didn't and now have to deal with the consequences.


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    #55
    Snowie
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    its dissgusting that two people made him feel, that ashamed of who he was that he ended his life.


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    #56
    prinz
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    AnnyHallsal wrote: »
    The analogy doesn't hold up. There's no shame attached to being a chef..

    Tell that to the dead chef.

    The circumstances in the OP are appalling. My thoughts are with the young lad and his family, and yes even with his friends who I am sure never foresaw the outcome. They do however have a lot to answer for, absolutely thoughtless, disgusting behaviour regardless of the sexes involved.

    On the other hand there's no need to start waving the rainbow flag either. 4 gay teens killed themselves in the US in September....I wonder how many teens killed themselves in the US altogether in September.


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    #57
    strobe
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    General Zod wrote: »
    I never said it was not a horrible thing to do, because it was. If they engaged their brain for more than a second they might have realised that, instead they didn't and now have to deal with the consequences.

    I'd say it's more likely they realised completely that it was a horrible thing to do but just did it any way. I don't buy the "they thought it was just a fun prank and the guy would get a big kick out of it" thing for a split second. It's nonsense.


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    #58
    General Zod
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    prinz wrote: »
    On the other hand there's no need to start waving the rainbow flag either. 4 gay teens killed themselves in the US in September....I wonder how many teens killed themselves in the US altogether in September.

    ok, there has been 4 public cases in the US in September alone of kids killing themselves because of gay related bullying. There's probably a very large percentage of teen suicide in the US related to the same subject that may well not be as public, for whatever reason.

    highlighting this isn't "waving the rainbow flag", whatever that means, it's waving a warning flag for a very real problem in society.


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    #59
    gizmo
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    Morlar wrote: »
    There was a chef who also killed himself this week after appearing on gordon ramsey. I suppose that one said a 'huge amount about the position in society of vulnerable chefs' ?
    A chef who appeared on the show three years ago and who was in a lot of financial trouble...


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    #60
    General Zod
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    strobe wrote: »
    I'd say it's more likely they realised completely that it was a horrible thing to do but just did it any way. I don't buy the "they thought it was just a fun prank and the guy would get a big kick out of it" thing for a split second. It's nonsense.


    nowhere have i said, nor have i read it being said, that he would have "gone along with it".

    they did it for their own amusement (wether they realised that he'd be bringing a guy back, not a girl, is not known). but they still didn't realise he was going to kill himself over it.

    Now, it was horrible sequence of thuings to do, both recording it, and by publishing it, effectively outing him against his will.

    and they will have to live the rest of their lives with the consequences of their actions on their concience.

    Plus, they should be charged with whatever laws are applicable.


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    #61
    General Zod
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    Min wrote: »
    What the flatmates did was totally wrong, what the person who killed himself did says a lot about how he viewed what he was doing - it brought shame and embarrassment that he couldn't live with when it became exposed.

    ah, here we go, the hate the sin, not the sinner brigade has arrived.

    I'd say he killed himself because he didn't want to view how society would treat him, not what he would think of his actions himself.


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