An accurately representation of some Irish women?

Raekwon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtv18poNg5A

I personally cannot stand the ad always feel the instant urge to switch over the channel as soon as it comes on because it actually makes me want to vomit in my mouth. But that is just my personal opinion

Okay I'm obviously painting in broad stokes here but when I first seen this ad I was stuck at how accurate it represented some Irish women in their late 20's/early 30's; clannish mentality, loud and obnoxious, probably very unapproachable & all going home together, most likely for a bitch and gossip session..........and not a man insight for the whole evening.

I personally know a good few girls that this ad is trying to portray and in your opinion does this TV ad accurately represent a stereotypical modern day Irish woman's standard weekend night out?

SugarHigh

If anything it's toned down from the reality in terms of loud obnoxiousness but it wouldn't be difficult to paint a similar grim picture about young males. Young people tend to be self-involved twats.

D'Agger

It'd be more realistic if it showed them demented eating burgers then hungover the next morning eating low-low covered toast and tea for the hangovers discussing how fat they feel after the previous nights burger binge....just my thoughts on the matter

Mervin J Minky

Yeah I'd say that this pretty much sums alot of Irish women up, no wonder lads prefer to get pissed and ignore Irish women on a night out. There is also only one half decent looking girl in the group too (brunette in the cream jacket that sock girl has her legs across). Very well researched ad

Red Hand

I personally cannot stand the ad always feel the instant urge to switch over the channel as soon as it comes on because it actually makes me want to vomit in my mouth. But that is just my personal opinion

Okay I'm obviously painting in broad stokes here but when I first seen this ad I was stuck at how accurate it represented some Irish women in their late 20's/early 30's; clannish mentality, loud and obnoxious, probably very unapproachable & all going home together, most likely for a bitch and gossip session..........and not a man insight for the whole evening.

I personally know a good few girls that this ad is trying to portray and in your opinion does this TV ad accurately represent a stereotypical modern day Irish woman's standard weekend night out?

Yes, there are many women that are like that....but I don't know where you're getting the clannish mentality/unapproachable thing from. You seem to think that there is something wrong with it? Where's the harm?

What's wrong with being with friends? Should they be doing Japanese calligraphy on a bare mountain-top?:pac::pac::pac:

Edit: Though I've got some f*cking pity for the taxi man!

jokettle

Woman's pov here: I hate this feckin ad. The shrieking in the taxi, the terrible "dancing" in the club, and the very notion of staying up for a natter after stumbling home all combine to make me despise these women. I hope to all the gods I never come across like this.

The shrieking thing I could understand if they were 17 and it was their first time going to a club and getting served. These women are too bloody old for it! They could do with a good dose of maturity and a bit of cop on.

As for the toast thing; that's a last resort if you can't afford something from the chipper plus, judging by the dancing, they should be too drunk to do anything but pass out when they get home.

Ad rant aside, I don't think it's fair to judge Irish women based on this tiny sample. Whenever I'm on a girls night out we don't actively stick to one another; if anyone, guy or girl, wants to chat to us or join us for a drink, the more the merrier! I've made some great (if transitory) friends that way

I'm a bit younger than the women in this ad though; perhaps this is depicting my future. How very depressing

Jessica-Rabbit

Raekwon wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtv18poNg5A

I personally cannot stand the ad always feel the instant urge to switch over the channel as soon as it comes on because it actually makes me want to vomit in my mouth. But that is just my personal opinion

Okay I'm obviously painting in broad stokes here but when I first seen this ad I was stuck at how accurate it represented some Irish women in their late 20's/early 30's; clannish mentality, loud and obnoxious, probably very unapproachable & all going home together, most likely for a bitch and gossip session..........and not a man insight for the whole evening.

I personally know a good few girls that this ad is trying to portray and in your opinion does this TV ad accurately represent a stereotypical modern day Irish woman's standard weekend night out?

To me it looks like four girls out on the town having a girly night out ,...whats wrong with that,, ok i dont want to upset anyone but I think if men think that think these women are loud and obnoxious then they are perhaps very insecure, these women arent out on the pull they dont want/need a man for whatever reason they are happy independant women enjoying each others compay and maybe this bruises some men's ego's as they arent desperatley trying to be chatted up all night they are too busy having a good time to worry about which man is checking them out ect, I know when im out with my girlfriends all I want to do is dance have fun and let my hair down and not worry who's checking me out, and if this ad represents Irish women then I am most certainly very proud to be a totally indepent Irish women wheither some men like it or not

SugarHigh

Jessica-Rabbit wrote: »

To me it looks like four girls out on the town having a girly night out ,...whats wrong with that,, ok i dont want to upset anyone but I think if men think that think these women are loud and obnoxious then they are perhaps very insecure, these women arent out on the pull they dont want/need a man for whatever reason they are happy independant women enjoying each others compay and maybe this bruises some men's ego's as they arent desperatley trying to be chatted up all night they are too busy having a good time to worry about which man is checking them out ect, I know when im out with my girlfriends all I want to do is dance have fun and let my hair down and not worry who's checking me out, and if this ad represents Irish women then I am most certainly very proud to be a totally indepent Irish women wheither some men like it or not

I don't see how disliking loud obnoxious people makes you insecure. It doesn't matter the sex they are always annoying, going to great lengths to make themselves as visible as possible.

SugarHigh

jokettle wrote: »

I don't think it's fair to judge Irish women based on this tiny sample

You're probably right and these women are not the majority it's just that they make themselves the most noticeable by shrieking all the time so they seem like the majority.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

I don't think it does..... Voted no..... *ahem*

jugger0

Not a looker among them... They're wayyyy too old to be going clubbing too.

OldGoat

jugger0 wrote: »

Not a looker among them... They're wayyyy too old to be going clubbing too.

/Cuffs youff on the back of the head.
Away upstairs and finish your homework and leave the talking to the grownups.
Too old indeed - harrumph.

As to the ad, well it's just an ad scripted and polished and aimd at a certain demographic. If the ad irritates you it's probably because you are not in that demographic.
Like all ads there is an element of truth to it but only an element. It's an exageration of whats real and then that exageration gets compressed into a 30 second slice of hocum to sell you stuff.

SugarHigh

OldGoat wrote: »

/Cuffs youff on the back of the head.
Away upstairs and finish your homework and leave the talking to the grownups.
Too old indeed - harrumph.

As to the ad, well it's just an ad scripted and polished and aimd at a certain demographic. If the ad irritates you it's probably because you are not in that demographic.
Like all ads there is an element of truth to it but only an element. It's an exageration of whats real and then that exageration gets compressed into a 30 second slice of hocum to sell you stuff.

What part is exaggerated? If anything I'd say it's toned down. By the end of the night they would be a lot messier than that and there would probably be arguments resulting in tears.

PeakOutput

pretty good representation, its probably short a nagan each and we didnt see the obligatory bitchiness towards any guy with the gall to get within 6feet or the kissing the same poor basterd after puking in the jacks but all in all fairly accurate representation

Malari

Hmm, reminds me of the country girls from college, I'd say it's a pretty accurate representation of a certain group of women.

skregs

SugarHigh wrote: »

What part is exaggerated? If anything I'd say it's toned down. By the end of the night they would be a lot messier than that and there would probably be arguments resulting in tears.

bits of puke on the ends on their hair, mascara running, having a sit down on the floor because they're tired and falling asleep, trying to skip you in taxi queues because "you wouldn't make a woman queue in the cold!", throwing their arms around you and trying to score you while their eyes cant quite focus, bawling their eyes in burger king because their friends have gone home



That being said, the first 25 seconds of the ad are fine. Its the stupid forced best friends forever conversation at the end that does my nut

Standman

I really don't think this ad is worth all the bickering

Raekwon

OldGoat wrote: »

As to the ad, well it's just an ad scripted and polished and aimd at a certain demographic

It was actually scripted and polished? I would hate to see this at the pre-edited stage, I'd say the poor bastard driving the taxi felt like driving into a canal at full throttle with that unmerciful racket ringing in his ears

But seriously, I'm a 30 year old male so I can relate to these sort of women only too well. The ad actually reminded me of my last Christmas work do, all the office girls in their late 20's/early 30's, jumping around screaming and acting like absolute morons. The younger girls were actually much more civilised and even I over heard a few comments from them like "The f**king state of those muppets" & "Two-faced bitches, they will be probably tearing each others hair out by the end of the night" The funniest was the foreign blokes that I used to work with, they would look on in horror and give us the glance of "You poor bastards", then when they get tanked up will tell us that women in their country would never act like that and gloat at how much more beautiful the women were in [insert county here] :rolleyes:

MalariHmm wrote:

reminds me of the country girls from college, I'd say it's a pretty accurate representation of a certain group of women

+1

HavingCrack

I honestly don't see anything wrong with it to be honest . A few girls have gone to a club and are dancing and singing along to a song. Afterwards they get a taxi home, being a tad annoying I'd imagine and then they go have some toast with butter...hardly as terrible as some of you posters are making out.

An accurate representation-no not really, far more toned down I'd imagine. Pop along to Harcourt Street on any Friday night to see what truely obnoxious women look like.

Seosaimh77

The first half of the ad definitely represents something I see every night from (some, not all) girls. But the second half where they're calmly drinking tea and eating low-low is completely ridiculous. Never seen a girl do that ever, after a night out on the town

TitoPuente

Has the gender balance really shifted this much? Women going out, getting pissed and enjoying themselves while the men sit at home, bitching about them on the internet? Our grandfathers are rolling in their manly graves.

iguana

Seosaimh77 wrote: »

The first half of the ad definitely represents something I see every night from (some, not all) girls. But the second half where they're calmly drinking tea and eating low-low is completely ridiculous. Never seen a girl do that ever, after a night out on the town

Because you know all the women in the country and have been in all their houses after a night out? These are older women, mid-late 30s. At least half of them are probably married, the others probably in relationships and one or two may have kids at home with the husband. They probably don't drink very much and were just out for a dance and a chat before heading home.

Something about the ad does annoy the hell out of me but it's not that they are bunch of older women on a girly night out. Maybe it's that the ad makers chose "We're the Kids in America" when the women are clearly not in America (nor kids), they should have been dancing to "Footloose" or something. Or it could be that Low-Low is nasty tasting muck, it does not taste like butter and the reason it is not fattening is because after the first mouthful at best you lose your appetite and at worst you lose your lunch. Bleurgh!

Smyth

TitoPuente wrote: »

Has the gender balance really shifted this much? Women going out, getting pissed and enjoying themselves while the men sit at home, bitching about them on the internet? Our grandfathers are rolling in their manly graves.

No it hasn't. There's pathetic people on both sides of field. Always will be. The "live for the weekend" culture turns my stomach, as it does many on this board. This is why you see threads like this all the time.

So Tom, what have you accomplished in your life? What challenges have you taken on in you 70 year existence? What have you learnt?

Ah c'mere, got LOOOADDED every Saturday with the lads an FECKIN' enjoyed every minute of it hi!!

Tom. Live. Laugh. Loved every FECCCKIN minute of it!

Galvasean

Having had the misfortune of being in Coppers during the week, that ad is deeply disturbing in how realistic it is...

SugarHigh

iguana wrote: »

Because you know all the women in the country and have been in all their houses after a night out?

He clearly only said some women.

represents something I see every night from (some, not all) girls.

and he only said he never saw girls eating toast after a night out not that it never happened.

Logical Fallacy

Galvasean wrote: »

Having had the misfortune of being in Coppers during the week, that ad is deeply disturbing in how realistic it is...

Just say no buddy.

Galvasean

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Just say no buddy.

Say no to Lolo...

iguana

SugarHigh wrote: »

He clearly only said some women.
and he only said he never saw girls eating toast after a night out not that it never happened.

Um no, he said it was completely ridiculous; "But the second half where they're calmly drinking tea and eating low-low is completely ridiculous."

Smyth

Galvasean wrote: »

Having had the misfortune of being in Coppers during the week, that ad is deeply disturbing in how realistic it is...

Askin for it :P

Mrmoe

I don't see what is particularly wrong with this ad. There is nothing outrageous or overly annoying about the people in it. It probably represents a group of friends going out after a weeks work and just relaxing and having fun. I would like to record some of the antics of the people on a night out who are complaining that this ad is annoying. I would bet that they don't spend their time drinking fine brandy in front of an open fire discussing the latest economic data.

limklad

PaulieC wrote: »

It'd be more realistic if it showed them demented eating burgers then hungover the next morning eating low-low covered toast and tea for the hangovers discussing how fat they feel after the previous nights burger binge....just my thoughts on the matter

I agree, Those women are far too sober and less sore from the night before than reality plus there no slurs in their singing. The Drink ads about people falling drunk are far more realistic.

Low Low is an ad for selling about Products, they will always emblish reality and see the customer in the positive light.

Here some reality I see after 11pm when I go out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdTWC1jVR_M

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwVzCeN7EfU

or this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_htNmHA5gQ

and this

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

I read this thread before I watched the video, after reading the horror and disgust by some posters I decided to have a look and see the disgraceful behaviour of modern Irish women for myself.

you people are just beyond retarded.

TitoPuente

Seriously. Yeah, women screeching over each other at the top of their voices in the back of a taxi would probably do my head in but there's nothing in the ad that strikes me as there being anything wrong with these women. A few girls out for a night out and a dance, back home for a natter and a brew. And some toast with Low Low/plastic spread of course.

It beats an ad where a load of narcissistic, rude women are seen being abusive to men who try to talk to them, puking outside the nightclub before falling down drunk and flashing their knickers, proceeding to the kebab shop where they pick up a doner and a man to go home and have unprotected sex with. Actually... now that I think about it... that would be an AWESOME ad for butter.

bigneacy

i'd say it fairly well represents the girls night out for women between 23-30...

17/18-23 however... like that but more puke, tears, fights and instead of them all sitting round post night club they'd all be away riding a young fella they met that night...

I used to be a bouncer in a late night club - one that stayed open after the other ones closed so i seen it all.

also seen the fellas that didn't get taken home usually kicked the shíte out of each other.

nice country..

DebDynamite

Could be that these women are childhood friends and are all staying over in one of the girls houses for the night after not being together for ages, for a night out on the town. They're probably mostly married / in relationships so that would explain why there's "not a fella in sight", as another poster said.

It's also probably the first time some of them have been out dancing in a long time or have gotten a break from the kids, so aren't they allowed to have a giggle and let their hair down?

For those of you who say they're too old to be carrying on like that, well, the clue is in Kim Wilde's "Kids in America" playing in the background. It would suggest to me that it's one of those 80's clubs that are popping up, and if a bunch of thirtysomethings aren't entilted to go to an 80's club, then I don't know who is...

Raekwon

Haha, I knew this thread would spiral into a mini rant

The real reason I posted it is because myself and my girlfriend (not Irish) hang around with a group of couples around the 27/33 age group and I've known all of them years before I meet my current partner but I'm really starting to resent the women in the group as most of them act like those girls in that butter ad and are beyond annoying.

Just abit of insight: the guys are really laid back and ago with the flow at the weekend but the girls have a tenancy of making "non-male" girlie activities like getting dressed up and watching Sex & the City in the cinema and going away to Spa resorts for the weekend which is fine, know one has a problem with that.

The problems always arise when someone (usually me) suggest that the lads go over to Liverpool for a lads weekend and catch abit of footie. These suggestions usually get shot down instantly by the girls but I keep pushing trying to get them to do male only things and the girls don't seem to like it. My girlfriend is cool with me doing stuff without her, I went to Madrid with some guys from work in August and she went back to her home country for two weeks but some of the Irish girls questioned her on my trip :rolleyes:

So in a nutshell when I saw this ad I pictured all of my mates hypocritical girlfriends screaming and laughing and generally actually like 17 year olds and I saw red! So sorry if I offended anyone reading this, I just needed to vent and see if I was the only one too noticed this sort of incredibly annoying behaviour in the thirtysomething lady folk

iguana

Have you considered professional help? Seriously.

Mr. Presentable

Of course it's not accurate. However, if the "We're really nosh" bird was mine, I'd drown her.

Otis Driftwood

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

I read this thread before I watched the video, after reading the horror and disgust by some posters I decided to have a look and see the disgraceful behaviour of modern Irish women for myself.
you people are just beyond retarded.

If you cant be civilised wìth your replies then dont bother posting here at all.Calling people retarded is not on,you are on boards long enough to know that doesnt fly.Cheers.

The Agogo

Jessica-Rabbit wrote: »

To me it looks like four girls out on the town having a girly night out ,...whats wrong with that,, ok i dont want to upset anyone but I think if men think that think these women are loud and obnoxious then they are perhaps very insecure, these women arent out on the pull they dont want/need a man for whatever reason they are happy independant women enjoying each others compay and maybe this bruises some men's ego's as they arent desperatley trying to be chatted up all night they are too busy having a good time to worry about which man is checking them out ect, I know when im out with my girlfriends all I want to do is dance have fun and let my hair down and not worry who's checking me out, and if this ad represents Irish women then I am most certainly very proud to be a totally indepent Irish women wheither some men like it or not

Have you ever read the last chapter of Ulysses? It reads exactly like this paragraph...which Joyce intended. He was quite accurate in that women think without punctuation.:pac:

EG

"and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes."

Flojo

Raekwon wrote: »

Okay I'm obviously painting in broad stokes here but when I first seen this ad I was stuck at how accurate it represented some Irish women in their late 20's/early 30's; clannish mentality, loud and obnoxious, probably very unapproachable & all going home together, most likely for a bitch and gossip session..........and not a man insight for the whole evening.

Emm so what, women can't go out and have a good time on their own without wanting a penis?

Incase you didn't notice when people are out having a good time with their friends and drinking they are generally a little bit loud and stick together.

You want to talk about loud and obnoxious? Try being a woman walking down Shop Street at 11pm on a Saturday night...

Raekwon

iguana wrote: »

Have you considered professional help? Seriously.

Yes, it was with the mod of Weddings, Marriage & Civil Partnership, it wasn't very professional or helpful :rolleyes:

iguana

Raekwon wrote: »

Yes, it was with the mod of Weddings, Marriage & Civil Partnership, it wasn't very professional or helpful :rolleyes:

Well that makes the kind of sense that doesn't.

Wibbs

iguana wrote: »

Have you considered professional help? Seriously.

Just because he happens to disagree with your experience hardly requires him to seek professional help, does it? Plus his topic asks is this a representation of some Irish women. IME yes it is. Big deal, no sweat of my brow. Whatever floats your boat and all that.

Logical Fallacy

Wibbs wrote: »

Just because he happens to disagree with your experience hardly requires him to seek professional help, does it? Plus his topic asks is this a representation of some Irish women. IME yes it is. Big deal, no sweat of my brow. Whatever floats your boat and all that.

In fairness, the old OP is really reaching into the ad to tie it back to people he doesn't like in real life, that's really why the thread was started.

iguana

Wibbs what experience of mine do you think I and the OP disagree on? The OP basically wrote up a fairly misogynistic rant about an admittedly annoying but completely harmless advert because his friends have a different type of relationship to him. He seems to have a problem with women going out on their own without men. Which to be very honest is something that very possibly could require professional help because he will have problems fitting into modern society with those types of issues.

30txsbzmcu2k9w

100 per cent accurate representation of bogger women yeah, the type that go home on weekends from the big smoke to play their local GAA match and only frequent Coppers or Flanneries. I wouldn´t say it´s representative of Dublin women though.
Captures the pack mentality well, going out with their "girlies" to take turns cockblocking. Zero self esteem and zero individuality. I´d rather take a lifelong vow of celebacy than so much as glance at one of these dullards in a club tbh.

Flojo

Tommy Yellow Tutor wrote: »

Captures the pack mentality well, going out with their "girlies" to take turns cockblocking. Zero self esteem and zero individuality. I´d rather take a lifelong vow of celebacy than so much as glance at one of these dullards in a club tbh.

Ever think that they're cockblocking because none of them are interested in men at that time and just want to enjoy a few drinks and dancing with their friends? So if a girl goes out to have fun with a group of girlfriends and dresses nicely she has zero self esteem and zero individuality?


Wow...

Wibbs

Logical Fallacy wrote:

In fairness, the old OP is really reaching into the ad to tie it back to people he doesn't like in real life, that's really why the thread was started.

Ah yea I get that LF. He's said so himself, but that hardly leads on the conclusion that he's a borderline mentallist, who may have trouble fitting into "modern society" without a session with Dr Freud and his trusty couch.

iguana wrote: »

He seems to have a problem with women going out on their own without men.

Eh no, read what he actually wrote, not what you may want to see. His point outlined in his post before your input on his possible mentalism, was not that he had an issue with women going out without men as such, more that some women he knows do same, but then get into a strop if their partners go out themselves. This ad(which we all seem to find irritating) just triggered that idea.

Which to be very honest is something that very possibly could require professional help because he will have problems fitting into modern society with those types of issues.

Oh for god's sake and with respect talk about an over reaction. Very possibly/could need Professional help with his issues? Jesus, he had a mini rant. Big deal. He also appears to have a woman in his life that suits him and him her. Also appears to have enough of a career and money is his pocket to swan off to Madrid, or over to see footballists kick a ball around. So he seems to be "fitting in to modern society" fine ta very much. Time for me to start a thread about an all too common phenomenon of "ohh this opinion upsets/rankles/doesnt compute for me, therefore the person must need counseling you know". And if you're looking for misogyny or skewed musings on the nature of "Irish women" on this thread the OP is way down the list to boot.

Tommy Yellow Tutor wrote:

100 per cent accurate representation of bogger women yeah, the type that go home on weekends from the big smoke to play their local GAA match and only frequent Coppers or Flanneries. I wouldn´t say it´s representative of Dublin women though.

100% accurate? Eh hardly. I've seen or not seen this stuff all over Ireland and abroad too BTW. Bunch of women go out for a girly night to let their hair down and aren't looking to be clumsily approached by some guy 6 pints of Hino in. Don't see any cockblocking goin on in that scenario.

Flojo wrote:

Ever think that they're cockblocking because none of them are interested in men at that time and just want to enjoy a few drinks and dancing with their friends? So if a girl goes out to have fun with a group of girlfriends and dresses nicely she has zero self esteem and zero individuality?


Wow...

Plus one on this. A common enough mistake from quite a few blokes Ive seen often enough of a night out.

Jessica-Rabbit

The Agogo wrote: »

Have you ever read the last chapter of Ulysses? It reads exactly like this paragraph...which Joyce intended. He was quite accurate in that women think without punctuation.:pac:

EG

"and then I asked him with my eyes to ask again yes and then he asked me would I yes to say yes my mountain flower and first I put my arms around him yes and drew him down to me so he could feel my breasts all perfume yes and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will Yes."

I really think that ill regret asking this put whats ur point??

Galvasean

iguana wrote: »

Wibbs what experience of mine do you think I and the OP disagree on? The OP basically wrote up a fairly misogynistic rant about an admittedly annoying but completely harmless advert because his friends have a different type of relationship to him. He seems to have a problem with women going out on their own without men. Which to be very honest is something that very possibly could require professional help because he will have problems fitting into modern society with those types of issues.

Tad bit over the top?