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Lets all have a riot!

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    #32
    Cantona's Collars
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    About 900 seemingly turned up in Dublin to protest yesterday-I laughed when I heard one organisation was there representing the unemployed.Over 400,000 unemployed in the country and 900 people get out to demonstrate,where were the rest?Hardly too busy-it's not as if they had jobs to go to!!
    It's a bad state of affairs if Irish people are prepared to sit on their hands and accept the thieving by fatcats,bankers and government while the ordinary Joe gets rode.


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    #33
    TouchingVirus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    I'd love a national, everybody to Dublin protest. But I'm not going to take the day off work without pay to go to a mickey mouse protest. When the big ones are on, I'll be there with my placard but until then I'm afraid the best I can do is randomly email my local TD when I get p*ssed off enough.

    Also - "the unemployed" don't have a mailing list, there's no light in the night sky to call them to arms or anything. I didn't hear a whisper about a protest yesterday, I'm sure I'm not alone.


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    #34
    Doctor Jimbob
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    TouchingVirus wrote: »
    I'd love a national, everybody to Dublin protest. But I'm not going to take the day off work without pay to go to a mickey mouse protest.

    The thing with that though is its that kind of attitude that stops there from being an 'everybody to dublin' protest. Not that I'm any different myself ,just making a point :D

    And as for people saying we should just leave.....well why should we have to? It is our country after all. Why not stay and make it better? If everyone leaves It will go to **** altogether.


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    #35
    geeky
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    ch750536 wrote: »
    My father took his place during the minors strike.

    The minors went on strike? Maurice Boland will be gutted.


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    #36
    ejmaztec
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    bonerm wrote: »
    Plasma? Pfft. LCD are better imo. They cost more, but hey, I can afford it.

    I can see that I've got a lot more research to do on this, so can we schedule the riot for two weeks tomorrow at 2pm? It would be a waste of a brick if I went home with an inferior tv.


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    #37
    TouchingVirus
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    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    The thing with that though is its that kind of attitude that stops there from being an 'everybody to dublin' protest. Not that I'm any different myself ,just making a point :D

    I don't really see how it does. There isn't a prerequisite to attend mini-protests before attending a big one. The big one just needs to be called, and some serious weight needs to go behind it. Weight from the unions, and not just one or two, from pretty much the whole lot of them. Taxis, Truck Drivers, Farmers, SIPTU, PSEU, etc etc.

    It's not that I wont attend the smaller protests mind you, I'd protest on my own for a cause that was specific to me. I think a general cause needs a general protest though, me with a placard about unemployment levels, student funding, the fact we're probably looking at 2 or 3 generations of taxpayers to get ourselves right again or whatever just isn't going to cut it though, and I know that so why bother?


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    #38
    orourkeda
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hamKl-su8PE


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    #39
    bonerm
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    ejmaztec wrote: »
    I can see that I've got a lot more research to do on this, so can we schedule the riot for two weeks tomorrow at 2pm? It would be a waste of a brick if I went home with an inferior tv.

    Exactly. There's nothing worse than being stuck with the wrong television for a whole year until the next series is released for purchase. Especially in the current economy!


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    #40
    Cantona's Collars
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    Why not have a protest on 8th of December-isn't that the day all the culchies head to Dublin for the Christmas shopping.
    Seriously though,we see the French etc. hitting the streets at the drop of a hat.Greece went mental a while ago aswell,we sit at home being miserable and saying "sure what can I do?" I'm one of the lucky ones to have a job but the situation in this country enrages me.Not one culprit in the biggest scam and theft in history is jailed while millions wasted on tribunals to tell us what we already know.


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    #41
    furtzy
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    zerks wrote: »
    Why not have a protest on 8th of December-isn't that the day all the culchies head to Dublin for the Christmas shopping.
    Seriously though,we see the French etc. hitting the streets at the drop of a hat.Greece went mental a while ago aswell,we sit at home being miserable and saying "sure what can I do?" I'm one of the lucky ones to have a job but the situation in this country enrages me.Not one culprit in the biggest scam and theft in history is jailed while millions wasted on tribunals to tell us what we already know.


    Day after the budget as well...perfect.


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    #42
    ch750536
    Registered Users Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    MidlandsM wrote: »
    Lucky some of us still do.
    It's simple really, if he not happy, leave.
    Lots of Irish people are not happy here and are leaving too - its the same.

    Wimps. I wimpled out once. I was not happy with the UK. Like a wimp I left. Like someone not happy with their marraige, their job, their freinds... wimp out & leave.

    When you love something and dont want to lose it but know it's broke and needs fixing the last thing you do is leave.

    Leaving is for wimps or those who do not value what they are leaving.


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    #43
    MingulayJohnny
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    orourkeda wrote: »
    They're not. Like you say it'll take people being taken to the brink of homelessness and starvation to get up off their fat arses

    I think Irish people obviously don't think that marching or rioting will achieve much otherwise given how bad things are there would be a lot more marching anyway. There's definitely an apathy borne out of experience here. I don't think that protest or even rioting can graze the flesh of our elites. It's only the people who create policy and law that can create the big economic changes ( despite the Bill Cullen philosophy of ' Get up off of your arse and make things happen' ).

    I don't think that they will allow the situation to get to the point of homelessness and starvation because they know if they do that then people will take violent action. We're still feeling the ripple effect of our last civil war and the permanent and incumbent government are well aware of this fact. I don't agree with the course of action that the government have taken despite all of their rhetoric and repetitive justifications. We're still one of the richest countries in the world and provided the top 1 % and those who get their good scraps are comfortable enough they don't really care about the people on the dole.

    How much can the individual or the marching crowd have on the way a country works. We can pressurise our elected representatives to a certain extent. Marching does create a certain sense or solidarity and awareness and rioting only plays into the hands of those who want more control over society.


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    #44
    Renn
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    Feeona wrote: »
    People Skills 101 : Very few people take kindly to being told what to do by an outsider.

    Hitler says hello.


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    #45
    ch750536
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    We need to turn 'the powers that be' into curtain twitchers. At the moment they fear nothing. Once they fear the people they will start to dish out justice and get democracy back on track.


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    #46
    bytey
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    good luck trying to get this land of drunken idiots to stand up for themselves

    maybe if we forced a huge cinema screen with boards.ie forum
    to be built into the dail - that might work -

    i am sure the rolling stream of upstaging witticisms
    would soon force the government to take notice

    400000 out of work and not one of them got off their holes to protest ?

    fighting irish me hole


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    #47
    TouchingVirus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    bytey wrote: »
    400000 out of work and not one of them got off their holes to protest ?
    fighting irish me hole

    A group that claimed to represent the unemployed participated in the protest. I don't know about you but I heard nothing about the protest in the media and I'm sure there isn't just one group representing all of the unemployed. Should those without jobs be looking for jobs, or scouring the land looking for signs of a protest to attend? There's no bat-signal equivalent for a protest. Was there free transport/discounted transport to get people from all over the country to attend? I think you get the picture.
    bytey wrote: »
    good luck trying to get this land of drunken idiots to stand up for themselves
    fighting irish me hole

    So how many protests have you attended then?


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    #48
    bytey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭bytey


    yes im getting the picture that they didnt make an effort
    did you get this picture ?

    none , i am lucky to work


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    #49
    Geansai Rua
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    Lets organise one then..

    Ill be there.

    Spread the word on Facebook, twitter etc.

    Students are always good crowd fillers!:)

    Set a date!


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    #50
    TouchingVirus
    Registered Users Posts: 8,584 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    bytey wrote: »
    yes im getting the picture that they didnt make an effort.did you get this picture ?

    Pretty much, yes. It's like a union of 100 people going and claiming to represent the public service. It's pitiful, a triviality.
    none , i am lucky to work

    Really? Me too, but guess what, I've still attended a few protests like the big one on student fees a while ago. And if the public service want to march I'll be there too, guess who wasn't quite for the Croke Park agreement? :pac: Having a job doesn't mean you don't protest, you're getting raped just as much as me by the government with income levies and the like.


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    #51
    PCPhoto
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    the problem is .....

    the government don't give a sh1t... even if a million people turned up and stood outside the dail calling for an election of dissolution of the government etc etc, they'd happily drink away in one of the two dail pubs, eat some of the food in the restaurant - relax in the VERY Comfortable chairs and watch some TV or something else.

    the government dont care about their constituents - because theres nothing they can do for them

    - WHEN the current government falls - the politicians will go back to their "day jobs" and continue working away - happy in the knowledge that they will get a government/state pension, a ministerial pension and god knows how many other benefits for the remainder of their lives.

    what this country needs is EVERYONE currently involved in politics or anyone with a relation involved in politics to be removed/banned from political life so we can start fresh with a new government, a new system.

    we need a serious overhaul of almost every department - judicial system tax system, health system, social welfare etc etc - until someone has the cop on to sit down...do all the calculations, write the whole thing up and present it to the government ...they wont change it anytime soon.


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    #52
    MagicSean
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    ch750536 wrote: »
    I'm British. I left the UK as I was so appalled with the lack of freedom and liberty. I was appalled at the way my fellow 'subjects' stared mindlessly and even criticised those who should be praised.

    I took my place in the poll tax riots. My father took his place during the minors strike. I question police when they are wrong. I help others when I can. Yet I left because I knew the system was so corrupt there was nothing more I could do. One man can not make a difference. It's all a lie.

    I moved to Ireland (wifes family is Irish) and took the perspective that rather like someone elses house I can see the issues but not care. It's not my house you see. Not my job to fix the cracks.

    I can take no more though.

    When the **** are you all going to stand up & be counted? When are you going to say 'enough is enough, we want justice!'. Every person in the country other than the highest earners, politicians and bankers have been ****ed over by an issue that was not caused by you. You are bailing people out who should be in prison. You have leaders who strangle democracy by not holding elections.

    Democracy, Liberty, Freedom & Justice are the 4 things that any person should be willing to fight for. You have lost your democracy. You have lost your justice. What are you going to do?

    Stand and fight now. Demand that justice is done by charging those responsible. Demand that elections are held to allow democracy once again. Make the people 'in power' remember that this is a republic, not theirs but yours and it is you that is in power.

    The people of Ireland caused this mess. Its no good blaming the bankers and politicians. The Irish people took out the mortgages on ridiculously overpriced houses. The Irish people elected the politicians who did nothing about it. The Irish people made a joke of the welfare system. The Irish people made Mr Hobbs a star. The Irish people spent all their savings on boozing and holidaying. Im tired of listening to all this moaning. There is nothing we can to magically fix it. In a year or two we will probably be over the worst of it and things will get better. With "Democracy, Liberty, Freedom & Justice" comes responsability. We took all that for granted and now we have to pay the price.


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    #53
    Johnny Bitte
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    k_mac wrote: »
    The people of Ireland caused this mess. Its no good blaming the bankers and politicians. The Irish people took out the mortgages on ridiculously overpriced houses. The Irish people elected the politicians who did nothing about it. The Irish people made a joke of the welfare system. The Irish people made Mr Hobbs a star. The Irish people spent all their savings on boozing and holidaying. Im tired of listening to all this moaning. There is nothing we can to magically fix it. In a year or two we will probably be over the worst of it and things will get better. With "Democracy, Liberty, Freedom & Justice" comes responsability. We took all that for granted and now we have to pay the price.

    Brian, is that you again :rolleyes:


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    #54
    th3 s1aught3r
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    k_mac wrote: »
    The people of Ireland caused this mess. Its no good blaming the bankers and politicians. The Irish people took out the mortgages on ridiculously overpriced houses.

    Yes but why were the houses so "ridiculously overpriced" :confused:


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    #55
    mikom
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    k_mac wrote: »
    The Irish people took out the mortgages on ridiculously overpriced houses.

    Did I?
    k_mac wrote: »
    The Irish people elected the politicians who did nothing about it.

    Did I?
    k_mac wrote: »
    The Irish people made a joke of the welfare system.

    Did I?
    k_mac wrote: »
    The Irish people made Mr Hobbs a star.

    Did I?
    k_mac wrote: »
    The Irish people spent all their savings on boozing and holidaying.

    Did I?


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    #56
    curlzy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    mikom wrote: »
    Stopped reading here.
    Wow, talk about any excuse to sit on your arse and do nothing, doesn't deserve to be listened to coz he's not from Ireland? :rolleyes:, he's right in what he's saying you know.


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    #57
    flyton5
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    Lets put another shrimp on the barbie....


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    #58
    ch750536
    Registered Users Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    k_mac wrote: »
    The people of Ireland caused this mess. Its no good blaming the bankers and politicians. The Irish people took out the mortgages on ridiculously overpriced houses. The Irish people elected the politicians who did nothing about it. The Irish people made a joke of the welfare system. The Irish people made Mr Hobbs a star. The Irish people spent all their savings on boozing and holidaying. Im tired of listening to all this moaning. There is nothing we can to magically fix it. In a year or two we will probably be over the worst of it and things will get better. With "Democracy, Liberty, Freedom & Justice" comes responsability. We took all that for granted and now we have to pay the price.

    ffs. If a casino or a bookies get the odds wrong and goes bust is it the people placing the bet that are to blame? No! Of course not. Same here. They gambled and lost.

    ffs.

    Stop regurgitating the **** they are telling you and think for yourself. The banks got themselves in this mess due to either stupidity or illegal trading. Both deserve to pay a price but they have persuaded you and millions of others that it is your fault and you should bail them out.


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    #59
    th3 s1aught3r
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,925 ✭✭✭th3 s1aught3r


    k_mac wrote: »
    The people of Ireland caused this mess. Its no good blaming the bankers and politicians. The Irish people took out the mortgages on ridiculously overpriced houses. The Irish people elected the politicians who did nothing about it. The Irish people made a joke of the welfare system. The Irish people made Mr Hobbs a star. The Irish people spent all their savings on boozing and holidaying. Im tired of listening to all this moaning. There is nothing we can to magically fix it. In a year or two we will probably be over the worst of it and things will get better. With "Democracy, Liberty, Freedom & Justice" comes responsability. We took all that for granted and now we have to pay the price.

    You can blame everyone, at some level you are right
    However at the end of the day, only one group is ELECTED to look out for the people , that was supposed to be their job


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    #60
    mikom
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    curlzy wrote: »
    Wow, talk about any excuse to sit on your arse and do nothing, doesn't deserve to be listened to coz he's not from Ireland? :rolleyes:, he's right in what he's saying you know.

    http://blog.linux.gen.nz/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/ysosrs.jpg


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    #61
    curlzy
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    So is everyone in agreement for the 9th of December? I'll be there, wearing this face ->:mad: God I'm just waiting for a big movement of patriotic Irish to march, hmmmmm but I think the poet said it best; "romantic Ireland's dead and gone, it's with O'Leary in the grave". Anywho if I hear of a march on that date I will take the day off work to be there, anyone else?


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