Dublin Bus route 145 :(

foggy_lad

AlekSmart wrote: »

+100% with Foggy_Lad on this one.

I believe there is some scope to improve the Bus Priority here as it is most definitely not configured for a high-frequency trunk route.

Perhaps the QBN Office would care to get involved here BEFORE the extension of the 7 route to Heuston.....as the song goes...Perhaps...Perhaps...Perhaps

they could start by getting "legal" on all the taxis illegally parking along st. johns road back past the military road junction here

sorting this out will free up the traaffic along this road and make getting out of heuston a lot easier hopefully.

AlekSmart

Sorting this out will free up the traaffic along this road and make getting out of heuston a lot easier hopefully.

I can see Foggy_Lad that your glass is Half-Full.....Mine on the other hand is half-empty and draining fast.

Who will sort out the Taxi situation..?

The Taxi Regulator ?.....Sorry not my responsibility...try the Garda Commissioner...?...Eh actually no,old boy thats the City Council ...ah yes...oh what ?...you mean its somebody else...who ?....why the shoulder-shrug ?,is it a French Man who`s responsible...?......Nobody`s responsible...nobody at all. :eek:

mikemac

The Traffic Corps regularly move along the taxis along St Johns Rd that back up the rank and narrow the bus lane so buses are slowed down.
I see this often.

Of course the drivers are back the next morning and the bus gets slowed down again.
Probably back within minutes of the traffic corp moving on.

Not sure what the solution is. Fines maybe?

foggy_lad

AlekSmart wrote: »

I can see Foggy_Lad that your glass is Half-Full.....Mine on the other hand is half-empty and draining fast.

Who will sort out the Taxi situation..?

The Taxi Regulator ?.....Sorry not my responsibility...try the Garda Commissioner...?...Eh actually no,old boy thats the City Council ...ah yes...oh what ?...you mean its somebody else...who ?....why the shoulder-shrug ?,is it a French Man who`s responsible...?......Nobody`s responsible...nobody at all. :eek:

gauards just need to drive up and down a few times stopping all taxis parked illegally and issuing fines, one guarda on a pushbike or even on foot could sort out the whole thing or maybe they fear being attacked by the drivers?

or even get a traffic warden out there if there are any left in dublin

stop

feelingstressed wrote: »

The Traffic Corps regularly move along the taxis along St Johns Rd that back up the rank and narrow the bus lane so buses are slowed down.
I see this often.

Of course the drivers are back the next morning and the bus gets slowed down again.
Probably back within minutes of the traffic corp moving on.

Not sure what the solution is. Fines maybe?

Tow/fine them for illegally parking. Three strikes and revoke licence. It would end tomorrow.

pclive

From the picture i cant see how these taxis can delay buses
and how do these taxis delay the 145?

KC61

pclive wrote: »

From the picture i cant see how these taxis can delay buses

Go back along St John's Road via streetview and you will see the problem at the end of the queue - the taxis are actually blocking the bus lane.

foggy_lad

pclive wrote: »

From the picture i cant see how these taxis can delay buses
and how do these taxis delay the 145?

they block the bus lane causing a backlog along the whole road as when lights are green at heuston the traffic is all backed up behind some illegal taxi driver and when he eventually moves off the road and traffic gets to the lights they are red which means it is harder for the 145 to pull into the traffic at heuston.

penexpers

foggy_lad wrote: »

they block the bus lane causing a backlog along the whole road as when lights are green at heuston the traffic is all backed up behind some illegal taxi driver and when he eventually moves off the road and traffic gets to the lights they are red which means it is harder for the 145 to pull into the traffic at heuston.

You're making no sense here. The buses pulling out of Heuston have their own filter which allows them to pull out, regardless of how many taxis are parked outside of the rank.

foggy_lad

penexpers wrote: »

You're making no sense here. The buses pulling out of Heuston have their own filter which allows them to pull out, regardless of how many taxis are parked outside of the rank.

busses coming down along johns road are being blocked by taxis parked illegally on an illegal rank which leaves all traffic on that road in a heap especially when it gets down to heuston station where the 91 and 145 pull away from heuston onto the end of st johns road! there is no filter road for them when they are pulling away from heuston only when driving into the station.

edit: if you mean they have their own filter traffic light they do not! there is a set of pedestrian lights which operates in synch with the luas so there is never room for busses to pull out when these lights turn red

penexpers

foggy_lad wrote: »

edit: if you mean they have their own filter traffic light they do not! there is a set of pedestrian lights which operates in synch with the luas so there is never room for busses to pull out when these lights turn red

You need to have another look at that junction because there is 100% a traffic light there for buses to pull out.

AlekSmart

Probably back within minutes of the traffic corp moving on.

Not sure what the solution is. Fines maybe?

Well Feelingstressed,as we`ve exhausted all of the manual alternatives in Dublin`s arsenal,perhaps we might just go Automatic.....The City Council and Gardai already have access to the Automatic Number Plate Recognition technology so why not use the fecxxing thing ?

Simply mount a couple of ANPR cameras strategically at the major Ranks and slap a €200 fixed penalty on those who rank up outside the marked zone.

It`s also worth noting what them oul Protestant leaning Londoners do and have a peep at their signage...ie: TAXI RANK [For x number of cabs only]...but then again we just don`t do simple solutions here do we ?

foggy_lad

penexpers wrote: »

You need to have another look at that junction because there is 100% a traffic light there for buses to pull out.

my mistake, you are right. there is a feeder light but this is not much use if the bus cant drive onto the yellow box because there is traffic right up to the next set of lights onto the bridge and they must also take the luas into account

http://maps.google.ie/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=53.346186,-6.292307&spn=0.000546,0.00142&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=53.346224,-6.292135&panoid=_pyxaHAbNvBg3igab3KVSw&cbp=12,45.67,,0,5

foggy_lad

AlekSmart wrote: »

Well Feelingstressed,as we`ve exhausted all of the manual alternatives in Dublin`s arsenal,perhaps we might just go Automatic.....The City Council and Gardai already have access to the Automatic Number Plate Recognition technology so why not use the fecxxing thing ?

Simply mount a couple of ANPR cameras strategically at the major Ranks and slap a €200 fixed penalty on those who rank up outside the marked zone.

It`s also worth noting what them oul Protestant leaning Londoners do and have a peep at their signage...ie: TAXI RANK [For x number of cabs only]...but then again we just don`t do simple solutions here do we ?

the ANPR works best with moving traffic as most taxi number plates would be blocked by taxis in front and behind, only first and last would get fined.

what is wrong with a good ols fashioned traffic warden or a guarda filling his/her pocket book with fines?

stop

foggy_lad wrote: »

the ANPR works best with moving traffic as most taxi number plates would be blocked by taxis in front and behind, only first and last would get fined.

ANPR from an elevated position should catch roof signs.

What's needed first is a desire by the Authorities, any of them, to do something about it.

Similarly in City Centre why bother with the bus gate if taxis on Grafton St block traffic causing tailbacks to College St!?

AlekSmart

Similarly in City Centre why bother with the bus gate if taxis on Grafton St block traffic causing tailbacks to College St!?

A spectacularly excellent question Stop.....and one which perhaps some aspiring Political heavyweight might pose in the Dáil.....because as it stands the Bus Gate is often slammed shut by the hour-glass effect outside the Provost`s House.

foggy_lad

stop wrote: »

ANPR from an elevated position should catch roof signs.

What's needed first is a desire by the Authorities, any of them, to do something about it.

Similarly in City Centre why bother with the bus gate if taxis on Grafton St block traffic causing tailbacks to College St!?

i was thinking of the roof signs but you know that will never work here in this country, even if there was a will to get the job done there would not be the sense to make it work. it would be another multi million euro E-voting fiasco!

mikemac

Give me a traffic wardens uniform and the power to fine and I'll make good inroads into the national debt

Well maybe not but you could cover your salary anyway.

A warden backed up by the Traffic Corp standing by maybe for an hour, morning, afternoon and evening could clear the taxis blocking the bus lane on St Johns Rd. A week or two and the word would spread among the comrades.

Sure the bus lane on Amiens St was constantly blocked, the Gardai handed out the fines and maybe instructions went out as they now park on Sherriff St, bus lane free, hurray!
But then there is a pay and display area further down in the IFSC which has been taken over by the taximen as an overflow. So if you are in the area and looking to park and pay the meter, that's partially gone, the Council won't be happy. Hmmmm

And I'm getting offtopic from the thread title, the 145

SickCert

feelingstressed wrote: »

And I'm getting offtopic from the thread title, the 145

New bill to be released early next week, probadly in operation from the following Sunday.
The madness shall end......

thomasj

Is this limited to the 145 sickcert?

Cookie_Monster

SickCert wrote: »

The madness shall end......

:pac::pac::pac:

SickCert

thomasj wrote: »

Is this limited to the 145 sickcert?

Its under the 145b/145d/184/84X umbrella, only the 145b/d being made realistic.

KC61

Lest anyone is confused by Sickcert's post:

145b equals 145 operated by Bray based drivers
145d equals 145 operated by Donnybrook based drivers

daenerysstormborn3

Does anyone know if Dublin Bus are going to make any changes to improve this service?

I have to rely on the 145 to get me to work every morning (the 92 used to stop right outside my job) and I've been late every single morning since the revised route came into operation.

It definitely does not leave every 10 minutes and also as regards a comment on the first page of this thread about a 145 at college green that hadn't started at hueston station, I got off a 145 in Hueston on Wednesday/Thursday this week at about 6pm, the driver said to the bus inspector guy "where will I go now?", bus inspector told him "head to nassau street", the 145 then pulled away without taking any customers standing at the bus stop on board and I assume it went to begin it's route on nassau street? Another example of Dublin Bus making sense?

I still don't understand the justification by Dublin Bus to get rid of the 92 route? Was there ever an announcement on why this is being done?

foggy_lad

pixiebean22 wrote: »

Does anyone know if Dublin Bus are going to make any changes to improve this service?

I have to rely on the 145 to get me to work every morning (the 92 used to stop right outside my job) and I've been late every single morning since the revised route came into operation.

It definitely does not leave every 10 minutes and also as regards a comment on the first page of this thread about a 145 at college green that hadn't started at hueston station, I got off a 145 in Hueston on Wednesday/Thursday this week at about 6pm, the driver said to the bus inspector guy "where will I go now?", bus inspector told him "head to nassau street", the 145 then pulled away without taking any customers standing at the bus stop on board and I assume it went to begin it's route on nassau street? Another example of Dublin Bus making sense?

I still don't understand the justification by Dublin Bus to get rid of the 92 route? Was there ever an announcement on why this is being done?

these same shaninagins are happening all over the city! i was at hawkins street yesterday waiting for a 39 at 4pm and had just missed one but there was one due to leave at 4.10 which didnt show up and the 4.20 also didnt turn up but thankfully the 4.28 turned up and only got as far as church street and was full to the doors!

the whole service was then screwed as following busses were also going to fill up quickly leaving many people at stops and later busses ending up overtaking much earlier ones!

who is responsible for this ridiculous way of operating a bus service?

where did the two missing busses go to? were they asleep somewhere?

Cookie_Monster

pixiebean22 wrote: »

It definitely does not leave every 10 minutes and also as regards a comment on the first page of this thread about a 145 at college green that hadn't started at hueston station, I got off a 145 in Hueston on Wednesday/Thursday this week at about 6pm, the driver said to the bus inspector guy "where will I go now?", bus inspector told him "head to nassau street", the 145 then pulled away without taking any customers standing at the bus stop on board and I assume it went to begin it's route on nassau street? Another example of Dublin Bus making sense?

if it was a one off due to accidents or whatever I could understand this happening but this has happened several times a day every day since introduction of the new service. I cannot understand how they continue to do it and justify it. It nothing less than a great big "fuck you" to customers at Hueston :mad::mad::mad:

SickCert

pixiebean22 wrote: »

Does anyone know if Dublin Bus are going to make any changes to improve this service?

I have to rely on the 145 to get me to work every morning (the 92 used to stop right outside my job) and I've been late every single morning since the revised route came into operation.

It definitely does not leave every 10 minutes and also as regards a comment on the first page of this thread about a 145 at college green that hadn't started at hueston station, I got off a 145 in Hueston on Wednesday/Thursday this week at about 6pm, the driver said to the bus inspector guy "where will I go now?", bus inspector told him "head to nassau street", the 145 then pulled away without taking any customers standing at the bus stop on board and I assume it went to begin it's route on nassau street? Another example of Dublin Bus making sense?

I still don't understand the justification by Dublin Bus to get rid of the 92 route? Was there ever an announcement on why this is being done?

Even from the drivers view, its the worse pile of crap ever introduced. Qtime technology i think is the term HO uses!
Tuesday is the release day of the improved schedule, probadly on the road from Sunday.
Passengers cant get from A to B. Drivers not allowed to take a pee at Heuston as the dwarf is loading the bus on arrival. Exceeding the illegal driving limit of 5hr30mins without a break.
I would ask the dwarf what the point is of sending us down to Dolier st light is? We sit in the same traffic as we do with yee folk reading your metros.
Ive been on the route several years, many friends along the route. Not easy driving by them every morning.

SickCert

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

if it was a one off due to accidents or whatever I could understand this happening but this has happened several times a day every day since introduction of the new service. I cannot understand how they continue to do it and justify it. It nothing less than a great big "fuck you" to customers at Hueston :mad::mad::mad:

They have this 'driver must break on time' menatality. I was PH'ed today inbound as they were afraid i would finish late. I still did.

KD345

Standing on South Quays for about 15 minutes on Friday at 4.30, and six 145s passed me heading to Heuston. There is clearly serious running time problems here. Best of luck to drivers this week, hopefully common sense shines through here.

Bazzer2

foggy_lad wrote: »

where did the two missing busses go to? were they asleep somewhere?

Can we get this straight once and for all. Drivers do not go 'asleep' or 'missing' or whatever else.

Dublin Bus Head Office in their wisdom decide the timetables. The inspectors are then given those timetables to work with, whether workable or not. In the case of the 39, it is not physically possible during the daytime to operate a ten-minute service, so they operate about every fifteen minutes instead.

It's either that or nothing. If you don't like it, don't blame the drivers or the inspectors. Blame the Head Office by making as many complaints as possible.