Quotes & More Quotes by Atheists (sig fodder inside)

The Mad Hatter

Bannasidhe wrote: »

robindch wrote: »

^^^ Ahh.... Hypatia.

Ohhhh...*add's to list of 'must see' films*.

I watched the first half a few months back - it's very good.

Delirium

"The vast majority of personal religious beliefs can be accurately predicted based solely on the beliefs of one's parents or the culture one is raised in... Religionists should ask themselves, 'Are my religious beliefs based on rationality and evidence or indoctrination?' "

— John Bice

Turtwig

Most the regulars know that this is one of my personal favourite quotes of al time. So it's about time it got the zen treatment.

robindch

Anorexemon

What with 17 pages of quotes, I'm unsure if this or something similar has already been posted, so please forgive me if it is already here.

Wiggles88

Apologies if its come up before but it's a good'un

fitz0

Wiggles88 wrote: »

Apologies if its come up before but it's a good'un

after listening to pale blue dot on audiobook, every Sagan quote us played out in his voice in my head. Like science's Morgan Freeman.

Penn

Genghiz Cohen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VysKIMR1hjk

Sulla Felix

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Anything you don't understand, you attribute to God. God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it.

Mark Hamill

Sulla Felix wrote: »

Actually said by Dr Arroway in Contact, but whatevs.

Carl Sagan wrote Contact.

Sulla Felix

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Carl Sagan wrote Contact.

I know, I've read it several times. It's been a while since I've needed to use the APA or similar but isn't the convention to cite the character rather than the scriptwriter or author when dealing with fiction?

Mark Hamill

Sulla Felix wrote: »

I know, I've read it several times. It's been a while since I've needed to use the APA or similar but isn't the convention to cite the character rather than the scriptwriter or author when dealing with fiction?

Oh, I thought you didn't realise . I don't know what the convention is, but I imagine the quote carries more weight with Sagans' name after it rather than a fictional scientists name.

Dades

Mark Hamill wrote: »

I imagine the quote carries more weight with Sagans' name after it rather than a fictional scientists name.

That's an interesting point. I'd imagine an scientific assertion certainly would carry more weight if the person was an "expert", but a quote in the form of a philosophical opinion should stand on it own I'd have thought.

Like those occasional great quotes you read attributed to -unknown.

sephir0th

Kivaro

Faith-is-a-cop-out ......

I wish Faith was an opt-in system.

mikhail

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Oh, I thought you didn't realise . I don't know what the convention is, but I imagine the quote carries more weight with Sagans' name after it rather than a fictional scientists name.

Sulla Felix is right. After all, if you wrote a novel in which one character was a bigot, you wouldn't want to hear his dialogue attributed to you as if you had said it yourself.

Sulla Felix

mikhail wrote: »

Mark Hamill wrote: »

Oh, I thought you didn't realise . I don't know what the convention is, but I imagine the quote carries more weight with Sagans' name after it rather than a fictional scientists name.

Sulla Felix is right. After all, if you wrote a novel in which one character was a bigot, you wouldn't want to hear his dialogue attributed to you as if you had said it yourself.

I just couldn't in good conscience vote for a person who doesn't believe in God. Someone who honestly thinks the other ninety five percent of us suffer from some form of mass delusion. - Carl sagan.

I'm gonnaw troll reddit with that.

Delirium

Turtwig

Finally Dawkins has been given the Zen treatment.

fitz0

How stridently arrogant of him.

:pac:

CerebralCortex

Jernal wrote: »

Finally Dawkins has been given the Zen treatment.

Of all the things Dawkins says this has to be has worst and most philosophically shallow. I hate it. I don't at all feel lucky that I get the opportunity to die and I would rather a smarter better designed/evolve entity existed in my place. I don't feel sorry for those better people because they don't exist. If I didn't exist I wouldn't feel unlucky because there is no a priori me. It's also sanctimonious and paints a picture of life I personally find ugly.

Turtwig

CerebralCortex wrote: »

Of all the things Dawkins says this has to be has worst and most philosophically shallow. I hate it. I don't at all feel lucky that I get the opportunity to die and I would rather a smarter better designed/evolve entity existed in my place. I don't feel sorry for those better people because they don't exist. If I didn't exist I wouldn't feel unlucky because there is no a priori me. It's also sanctimonious and paints a picture of life I personally find ugly.

I see where you're coming from and can't really disagree with it.

CerebralCortex

Jernal wrote: »

I see where you're coming from and can't really disagree with it.

I would class that outlook as humanist conservatism. The idea that you should love what you're given and not complain. It's the exact opposite thinking that brought me to atheism in the first place.

Gbear

I ****ing love Louis CK.

Gbear

ShooterSF

I heard it first from Hitchens and it wouldn't surprise me if it originated with him, "don't swallow your moral code in tablet form"

The Mad Hatter

Gbear wrote: »

Didn't think that sounded like Wilde, so I did a bit of Googling and it's turned up some interesting results. Wilde isn't the first person that quote has been misattributed to: there are earlier examples attributed to Charles Darwin, but referring to mathematicians, not religion. Even earlier than that it's been used by Lord Bowen to describe metaphysics and by William James on philosophy. H. L. Mencken put it neatly when he said "A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it."

It seems likely to me that it was just a phrase in common use in the nineteenth century to describe anyone with a futile or pointless task. And, like a lot of phrases that come from the nineteenth century without a source attached, it's been attributed to Wilde, in the same way that any piece of anonymous British comedy winds up attributed to John Cleese.

(I took most of that information from Wikiquote on Charles Darwin.)

Mardy Bum

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Didn't think that sounded like Wilde, so I did a bit of Googling and it's turned up some interesting results. Wilde isn't the first person that quote has been misattributed to: there are earlier examples attributed to Charles Darwin, but referring to mathematicians, not religion. Even earlier than that it's been used to describe metaphysicians and the job of a judge. It seems likely to me that it was just a phrase in common use in the nineteenth century to describe anyone with a futile or pointless task.

I was thinking that myself Wilde actually said

Religion does not help me. The faith that others give to what is unseen, I give to what I can touch and look at.

Gbear

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

Didn't think that sounded like Wilde, so I did a bit of Googling and it's turned up some interesting results. Wilde isn't the first person that quote has been misattributed to: there are earlier examples attributed to Charles Darwin, but referring to mathematicians, not religion. Even earlier than that it's been used by Lord Bowen to describe metaphysics and by William James on philosophy. H. L. Mencken put it neatly when he said "A philosopher is a blind man in a dark room looking for a black cat that isn't there. A theologian is the man who finds it."

It seems likely to me that it was just a phrase in common use in the nineteenth century to describe anyone with a futile or pointless task. And, like a lot of phrases that come from the nineteenth century without a source attached, it's been attributed to Wilde, in the same way that any piece of anonymous British comedy winds up attributed to John Cleese.

(I took most of that information from Wikiquote on Charles Darwin.)

Yeah, I was a bit suspicious but I googled it and it was attributed to him on several pages so I just went with it.

Soz:o