Unusual September chill possible?

Deep Easterly

Pangea wrote: »

Have you got a photo dated 25th of decemeber to back up your white christmas ?
That day the snow was chiefly in Donegal with none forecast for the east.
A real white christmas , it just started to snow as I was eating christmas dinner. It was beautiful.

Can't remember correctly but wasn't that the day of the 'ice rain' event across the country? although with you on high ground in the NW you would have been luckier than most of us.


12z HIRLAM analysis for that day:


18z:


warm sector approaching over very cold surface temps. -8.0c or lower recorded during early Christmas morning across a large part of the country.

Pangea

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Can't remember correctly but wasn't that the day of the 'ice rain' event across the country? although with you on high ground in the NW you would have been luckier than most of us.



warm sector approaching over very cold surface temps. -8.0c or lower recorded during early Christmas morning across a large part of the country.

Dont recall ice rain , I think you may be thinking of another day, but I remember the forecast was for precipation moving up the west coast and as it hit cold air it turned to snow (mainly in donegal)
I have the orignal forecasts on my computer.
The snow was widespread in my area.

Deep Easterly

Pangea wrote: »

Dont recall ice rain , I think you may be thinking of another day, but I remember the forecast was for precipation moving up the west coast and as it hit cold air it turned to snow (mainly in donegal)
I have the orignal forecasts on my computer.
The snow was widespread in my area.

Ah yea, probably was a different day, but it was around Christmas I remember. I always keep meaning to keep a diary of actual conditions but never seem to get around to it. Would be handy for remembering the day of these events correctly!

Lumi

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Can't remember correctly but wasn't that the day of the 'ice rain' event across the country?

Yes, it started to rain just after 10.30AM on Christmas morning and every surface was coated with a layer of ice within minutes. It was amazing.

Pangea

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Ah yea, probably was a different day, but it was around Christmas I remember. I always keep meaning to keep a diary of actual conditions but never seem to get around to it. Would be handy for remembering the day of these events correctly!

I do remember ice rain indeed ,cant remember exact date though.
What a sight for christmas morning temperture wise, Il be lucky to see anything like that again.

Heres screenshots from the christmas eve forecast for christmas day last for those who cant remember what happened.

Speak Now

Deep Easterly wrote: »

Ah yea, probably was a different day, but it was around Christmas I remember. I always keep meaning to keep a diary of actual conditions but never seem to get around to it. Would be handy for remembering the day of these events correctly!

No you are correct, remember going to mass Christmas morning, -3 and it started raining. Place was just an ice rink when we came out of mass.

opinion guy

There was snow on Christmas day I know this because the car got stuck in it that day

pauldry

We had a glass Christmas last year. There was some bits of snow from December 18th lying around for 4 weeks but then there was rain that fell on subzero roads and turned to glass. Couldnt leave the house. It was minus 10 to boot but only minus 5 here in Sligo

Pangea

Oh right ,no ice rain at me that day anyways just snow
I recall ice rain on another date aswell though.

Min

We had about an inch of ice on the road for Christmas, then it started to sleet and it froze to the ground and then it changed to rain and it froze to the ground.
As already said it was a glass Christmas, didn't even get to Christmas mass for the first time, didn't fancy killing myself or the family...

opinion guy

Pangea wrote: »

RTE need to invest in a spell checker......or at least hire in some student that did honours English...

lord lucan

opinion guy wrote: »

RTE need to invest in a spell checker......or at least hire in some student that did honours English...

Ah,it was xmas eve,the weather staff were in a rush to get home! Easy to forget an E in the circumstances.:p

Hooter23

It's going to be frezing people someone started on the whiskey a bit early:D

nacho libre

Pangea wrote: »

I do remember ice rain indeed ,cant remember exact date though.
What a sight for christmas morning temperture wise, Il be lucky to see anything like that again.

Heres screenshots from the christmas eve forecast for christmas day last for those who cant remember what happened.

We most likely all will be lucky to see something similar again, senor Pangea. It's just too bad that theory about the north atlantic drift being turned off has no basis in fact.

dexter647

it was freezing rain xmas day with ice everywhere... i was so confused at the time seen as it was minus 3 (i'm no meteorioligist)
... but after some research discovered the reason why... a rare weather event in ireland i reckon

arctictree

I remember XMas day last year very well. Temp stayed at circa 0.6c all day and it lashed rain. Roads were treacherous. A big dissapointment considering we had some major snow events later in the winter with temps at +1c.

More info : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055778997&page=6

Pangea

arctictree wrote: »

I remember XMas day last year very well.
More info : http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055778997&page=6

Thanks for that
just seen my post there

Pangea wrote: »

White out here in south donegal aswell! What a perfect day .
Roads are bad!
Has anyone seen rtes website , it says -9 for tonight ? that couldnt be right?
Wheres this thaw
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/1225/weather.html

I remember how everyone was saying the big freeze would end on christmas day with warmer weather on st.stephens day, even the weather forecasters, but it quickly changed though and stayed for another 3 weeks.

nacho libre

Pangea wrote: »

I remember how everyone was saying the big freeze would end on christmas day with warmer weather on st.stephens day, even the weather forecasters, but it quickly changed though and stayed for another 3 weeks.

that's not quite true senor Pangea, the Eagle said at the time there would be a temporary lull for around two days, with relatively milder weather, but he saw no indication of any realy milder weather in the foreseeable future.

snow ghost

opinion guy wrote: »

There was snow on Christmas day I know this because the car got stuck in it that day

Same as that Opinion Guy, I had a white Christmas here in Mayo, it started about 11am.

Pangea

Pangea wrote: »

Thanks for that
just seen my post there


I remember how everyone was saying the big freeze would end on christmas day with warmer weather on st.stephens day, even the weather forecasters, but it quickly changed though and stayed for another 3 weeks.

nacho libre wrote: »

that's not quite true senor Pangea, the Eagle said at the time there would be a temporary lull for around two days, with relatively milder weather, but he saw no indication of any realy milder weather in the foreseeable future.

They said there would be a thaw and there would be milder weather , but there was no thaw whatsoever up at me, infact it was as cold as ever christmas night and st.stephens day.
It was a pleasant suprise,
Like I said met eireann said there would be a thaw but yet the link above shows how in the middle of christmas day they quickly changed their forecast to -9 for that night !
and the warmer weather forecasted for that 2 days didnt come.

Pangea wrote: »

Freezing hard now over the snow that fell today ,dangerous conditions.
No thaw here ,what a nice suprise , i thought by tonight it would be wet and the snow and ice would be gone , far from it!

Gonzo wrote: »

there should be a good thaw starting from 2moro (26th) and lasting till about wednesday (30th), hopefully all the roads will be clear by 2moro evening.

Weathercheck wrote: »

Where you getting this from?

Gonzo wrote: »

I was going by the RTE forecast, 6C in Dublin 2moro and Sunday, and BBC have Dublin down for 7C Monday and 8C Tuesday. that should be enough to melt most of the frost around these parts?

nacho libre

Pangea wrote: »

They said there would be a thaw and there would be milder weather , but there was no thaw whatsoever up at me, infact it was as cold as ever christmas night and st.stephens day.
It was a pleasant suprise,
Like I said met eireann said there would be a thaw but yet the link above shows how in the middle of christmas day they quickly changed their forecast to -9 for that night !
and the warmer weather forecasted for that 2 days didnt come.

yes they got it wrong for the north west, but it was in fact still relatively milder by day over much of the country from what it had been
We had heavy rain showers and temperature of 5c on st Stephens day. I believe the only place that saw snow that day were parts of Donegal.
Still in normal circumstances St Stephens day would have been described as being a cold day.

I distinctly remember two things about last winter: Eagle speculating we would get a significant snow event at some stage, but the period which dumped a foot of snow on the Wicklow mountains around mid december was not to be it. He explained the reason for this was temperatures were just a degree too high. Incidentally the so-called big Freeze started around then for many in the north west, but of course it only became worthy of media attention once it took hold in the Capital.

Secondly, The Eagle in the weekly outlook before Christmas said it would get relatively milder for a couple of days, although he saw no signs of any milder weather taking hold, before cold weather would return around the 27th and he saw no signs of it abating well into the new year.

so in summation i think he was at least partially right, desipte what later outputs may have said, if we look at what prevailed after christmas and the big snow event on January the 13th that heralded the end of the big freeze

Finally: In case it's not clear I'd like to nominate the Eagle for president!!:pac:

Pangea

nacho libre wrote: »

yes they got it wrong for the north west, but it was in fact still relatively milder by day over much of the country from what it had been
We had heavy rain showers and temperature of 5c on st Stephens day. I believe the only place that saw snow that day were parts of Donegal.
Still in normal circumstances St Stephens day would have been described as being a cold day.

You said there was no word of the big freeze ending but I remember there was many that said that upon seeing met eireans forecast in the build up to christmas. Sure maybe eagleton didnt say the freeze would be over , im not doubting that, il have to take your word for it but other forecasts differed.

Just look at your own post made on st.stephens day

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nacho libre wrote: »

i i just don't understand it with temperatures expected to get down to - 2 or -3 in spots tonight. talk of this cold spell being over is quite frankly wide of the mark.

Back to today , any sign of this september chill creeping upon us?

gally74

Only on deadliest catch, opi season freezing spray

Deep Easterly

You really know the winter lust has set in when forecasts from the past are being debated! :eek:

nacho libre wrote: »

I distinctly remember two things about last winter:

I distinctly remember one: that it was rubbish. Just like the summer just gone, only colder.

nacho libre

Pangea wrote: »

You said there was no word of the big freeze ending but I remember there was many that said that upon seeing met eireans forecast in the build up to christmas. Sure maybe eagleton didnt say the freeze would be over , im not doubting that, il have to take your word for it but other forecasts differed.

Just look at your own post made on st.stephens day

Back to today , any sign of this september chill creeping upon us?[/QUOTE]

oh yes i'm not disputing other forecasters, and people on here, may have seen things differently.
i'm just pointing out that what the Eagle said prior to christmas, despite what subsequent forecasters may have said, was for the most part right.


As for my post at that time, i said that because i believe i was annoyed at people on the forum suggesting the cold was gone for good

As for this september chill, we'll get a few chilly nights but that's about it.
Realistically the only place that could see snow at this time of the year is the mountain tops in the Scottish Highlands

Pangea

nacho libre wrote: »

As for this september chill, we'll get a few chilly nights but that's about it.
Realistically the only place that could see snow at this time of the year is the mountain tops in the Scottish Highlands

Indeed, but hopefully we will get a nice cold winter.
Good times ahead .

Deep Easterly wrote: »

I distinctly remember one: that it was rubbish. Just like the summer just gone, only colder.

Personally I loved last winter, Il take a big freeze any winter , better than wet and mild ,anything out of the ordinary is a bonus.

forkassed

Way too premature for talk of cold weather but what the hell..from a thread over at netweather

The scottish highlands had a bit of a dusting and the big patch is one of the last surviving snow patches from last winter.

Su Campu

Pangea wrote: »

Indeed, but hopefully we will get a nice cold winter.
Good times ahead .




Personally I loved last winter, Il take a big freeze any winter , better than wet and mild ,anything out of the ordinary is a bonus.

Well your wish may be granted, and wet and mild could become the new "out of the ordinary"

http://www.accuweather.com/video/605456718001/future-shock-brutal-winters.asp

Pangea

Nice pic
heres a few news stories I have seen regarding snow next week, always good when the tabloids start printing it :P

Weathermen warn snow could be on the way as early as NEXT WEEK
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2010/09/13/weathermen-warn-snow-could-be-on-the-way-as-early-as-next-week-86908-22558173/

Snow may be on its way as early as next week
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/840720-snow-may-be-on-its-way-next-week


WEATHER: SNOW WILL HIT UK IN WEEKS
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/153545/Weather-Snow-will-hit-UK-in-weeks/

nacho libre

Deep Easterly wrote: »

You really know the winter lust has set in when forecasts from the past are being debated! :eek:



I distinctly remember one: that it was rubbish. Just like the summer just gone, only colder.

Funny that. As I keenly remember you waxing lyrical about the beautiful vistas on your constitutionals during crisp winter mornings;)

If you don't believe me how special last winter was just look at Fionagus' and other people's pictures on the weather thread from that period.
As you know I love a plentiful supply of snow, but still i could appreciate the effect the sustained cold had on parts of ireland, places like Donegal pass and Ben Bulben resembling arctic regions due to their thick white winter coat. Give me winter views such as those over a winter dominated by endless mild south westerlies any day!