US soldiers allegedly kept Afghan body parts as trophies

digme · 10-09-2010 3:24pm #1

No 1 terrorist state at it again sick fcks.

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New documents released by the US Army paint a disturbing picture of depravity, deceit and savage internal discipline involving at least 12 Stryker soldiers from Washington during their recent deployment to Afghanistan.

The soldiers, all from the same company in the 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, are charged with a total of 76 crimes, including the premeditated murders of three Afghan civilians and the beating of one or more fellow soldiers.

One soldier is alleged to have stabbed a corpse last December.

Three soldiers face charges of wrongfully taking and/or possessing photographs of dead bodies.

The highest-ranking member of the group, Staff Sergeant Calvin R. Gibbs, is accused of showing fingers from a corpse to a soldier in an attempt to keep him from talking to Army investigators about his and other soldiers' alleged use of drugs.

On May 5, just a few days after the last murder, seven of the defendants allegedly went after at least one fellow soldier, apparently to keep him quiet.

The soldiers allegedly beat up their comrade, hitting, kicking, strangling, dragging and spitting on him.

Morlock and Gibbs are the only soldiers charged in all three murders, which occurred separately in January, February and May.
The Afghan men were killed with grenades, shot, or both.

The charge sheets don't shed light on what might have driven the soldiers to kill: whether for revenge, or for sport, or something else.

orourkeda · 10-09-2010 3:30pm

Bad things happen during wartime.

You hardly think they were playing tiddlywinks do you?

Shocking perhaps but hardly surprising.

Sykk · 10-09-2010 3:30pm

Yes the 5-10 lads in that represent the American Army. Jaysus we've had enough of these threads already.

scientific1982 · 10-09-2010 3:31pm

US soldiers are nothing more than hired killers. What they done in Vietnam was sick. Repulsive hillbilly cnuts.

Glenster · 10-09-2010 3:32pm

digme wrote: »

No 1 terrorist state at it again sick fcks.

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Apparantly they also killed some people aswell, keep it under your hat.

orourkeda · 10-09-2010 3:32pm

scientific1982 wrote: »

US soldiers are nothing more than hired killers. What they done in Vietnam was sick. Repulsive hillbilly cnuts.

And what make them any different to any other army?

Cool_CM · 10-09-2010 3:35pm

digme wrote: »

No 1 terrorist state at it again sick fcks.

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You mean the same terrorist state that are now putting the soldiers on trial for their actions?

The article you posted, but quite possibly never actually read wrote:

The soldiers, all from the same company in the 5th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, are charged with a total of 76 crimes, including the premeditated murders of three Afghan civilians and the beating of one or more fellow soldiers.

StompToWork · 10-09-2010 3:37pm

WTF?? Even if I believed what I just read in that article, it's a bit of a jump to tar an entire army on the acts of 5 nutters, who just happen to part of that army.

IMHO, that was a bit of a cheap-shot, OP.

Yakult · 10-09-2010 3:41pm

Cant wait till that stupid ****ty "war" is over. Really getting sick of soldiers getting killed for nothing and then controversial crap like this happening.
Can someone tell me what have they achieved over there, or defeated? Bar themselves.

Robbo · 10-09-2010 3:43pm

This kind of behaviour is mostly 'armless although were it to go to a court martial, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

piby · 10-09-2010 3:57pm

The US Army numbers in the couple of 100,000s so with anything that big you'll always get some scumbags particularly in a military environment. When stuff like this happens I actually always feel for the 99.99% of decent soldiers who then get tarred with this brush because of the sick actions of a few! The important thing is that they will be brought to justice for their crimes.

phill106 · 10-09-2010 4:09pm

digme wrote: »

No 1 terrorist state at it again sick fcks.

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Way to give the finger to the whole us army because of the actions of a few.

digme · 10-09-2010 4:10pm

Cool_CM wrote: »

You mean the same terrorist state that are now putting the soldiers on trial for their actions?

Yes the same terrorist state.

Donkey Oaty · 10-09-2010 4:14pm

digme wrote: »

Yes the same terrorist state.

Hold it there, soldier. You're making the rest of us reasonable folks opposed to certain aspects of US foreign policy look like deluded, foaming-at-the-mouth idiots.

Cool_CM · 10-09-2010 4:16pm

digme wrote: »

Yes the same terrorist state.

So the terrorist state that is putting these soldiers on trial is "at it again"?

At what again exactly?

Punishing people who committed war crimes? How is that a bad thing?

Red Hand · 10-09-2010 4:16pm

I don't dig you.

Donkey Oaty · 10-09-2010 4:18pm

Robbo wrote: »

This kind of behaviour is mostly 'armless

I suppose you think that's humerus.

Carlos_Ray · 10-09-2010 4:30pm

Thats what happens when you recruit hicks from outside Walmart.

At least the Americans are bringing charges against these scumbags. They not only have murdered Afghans but they have no doubt contributed to the death of other American soldiers. Soldiers that are carrying out their duty with good intent. Naturally some family members of the victims will be radicalised as a direct result of such atrocities and hence more likely to carry out suicide attacks etc. If I was an American soldiers I would demand the heads of these criminals and traitors.

One of the worst cases of military brutality/evil I heard in the last 5 years relates to the American soldiers who broke into a house in Iraq with the intent to rape a 14 year old child. They did so (in front of her father mother and sibling) before shooting her in the head and killing the rest of the faimly. The guy charged with the maximum crime will get parole after 10 years!!! If that happened to someone in my family I would kill as many American soldiers as humanly possible (because I would be driven crazy).

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20116405/

dsmythy · 10-09-2010 4:37pm

Ok OP you don't like the evil Americans. We get it.

rebelmomma · 10-09-2010 4:40pm

digme wrote: »

No 1 terrorist state at it again sick fcks.

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Universal Soldier anyone??

Yakult · 10-09-2010 4:42pm

Robbo wrote: »

This kind of behaviour is mostly 'armless although were it to go to a court martial, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

true, they would have 3 legs to stand on.

Gone West · 10-09-2010 5:00pm

All of this stuff is turning fairly pissed off devout muslims into really pissed off devout muslim insurgents who join the taliban.
The choice is to work for the americans (ok pay) or work for the taliban (better pay), or stay a goat farmer forever.

As you can see, the talibans ranks are swelling these last few years. And these events are recruitment drives for teh taliban.

Pookah · 10-09-2010 5:06pm

They were cutting off the fingers of the Afghan combatants to keep as souveniers.

Apparently the figures ran into double digits.

Royal Irish · 10-09-2010 5:33pm

piby wrote: »

The US Army numbers in the couple of 100,000s so with anything that big you'll always get some scumbags particularly in a military environment. When stuff like this happens I actually always feel for the 99.99% of decent soldiers who then get tarred with this brush because of the sick actions of a few! The important thing is that they will be brought to justice for their crimes.

I think its more like 1.3 million in the US armed forces, including Navy, Air force, Army and Reserve.

The British army is about 130,000. The Irish army is about 12,000.

I agree 100% about the scumbags point. You will always get a few when taking the numbers into consideration.

Afghanistan is a harsh enviroment and putting what I would consider immature "gun nut yanks" under pressure like that things like this will happen.

Another point is, its reported that the victims were non combatants which might not be true. Alot of Taliban fighters only pick up their weapons when it suits them and considering the area these guys were stationed and that the victims were men, I'd say its very likely they were Taliban.

FlutterinBantam · 10-09-2010 6:42pm

Yeah, shame such stuff was visited on Taliban.

They are such nice placid guys, always in full uniform .

Wouldn't dream of doing such things themselves.:cool:

get a grip OP.

scientific1982 · 10-09-2010 7:43pm

orourkeda wrote: »

And what make them any different to any other army?

They pretend they're the good guys.

Terry · 10-09-2010 8:06pm

William Tecumseh Sherman wrote:

I’ve been where you are now and I know just how you feel. It’s entirely natural that there should beat in the breast of every one of you a hope and desire that some day you can use the skill you have acquired here.
Suppress it! You don’t know the horrible aspects of war. I’ve been through two wars and I know. I’ve seen cities and homes in ashes. I’ve seen thousands of men lying on the ground, their dead faces looking up at the skies. I tell you, war is Hell!

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danbohan · 10-09-2010 8:14pm

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Yeah, shame such stuff was visited on Taliban.

They are such nice placid guys, always in full uniform .

Wouldn't dream of doing such things themselves.:cool:

get a grip OP.

taliban = terroist , american army = ???? ,
its ok if both sides to be equally barbaric ?
and what has wearing a uniform got to do with anything ,

FlutterinBantam · 10-09-2010 8:54pm

Plenty.

You are not a conniving terrorist, but up front as to your identity and allegiance.

That's what it has to do.

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:14pm

It would be wrong for anyone to assume that this is an isolated incident. This is one of the few times a yankee murder gang has been outed. Most incidents are covered up.

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:18pm

danbohan wrote: »

taliban = terroist , american army = ???? ,
its ok if both sides to be equally barbaric ?
and what has wearing a uniform got to do with anything ,

The taliban are a guerilla army and no guerilla armies wear uniforms. The taliban are a guerilla uniform because they have inferior technology. They don't have fighter bombers that cost $50million. If the yankee cowards stop using their cluster bombs, tanks and gunships and make it a fair fight then the taliban can start wearing uniforms.

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:23pm

R_H_C_P wrote: »

Cant wait till that stupid ****ty "war" is over. Really getting sick of soldiers getting killed for nothing and then controversial crap like this happening.
Can someone tell me what have they achieved over there, or defeated? Bar themselves.

Well most defence analysts agree that the war destroyed the logistical and training capability of al-Qaeda, which the Taliban had refused to do.

Anything concrete or worth anywhere near the amount of lives? probablly nothing.

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:28pm

McDougal wrote: »

The taliban are a guerilla army and no guerilla armies wear uniforms. The taliban are a guerilla uniform because they have inferior technology. they don't have fight bombers that cost $50million. If the yankee cowards stop using their cluster bombs, tanks and gunships and make it a fair fight then the taliban can start wearing uniforms.

Whilst I agree that not wearing uniforms is not a reason for the enemy to cut of body parts as trophies, it is ridiclous to say that not wearing uniforms is somehow alright because its harder for them if they do, its harder for everyone.

Im sure it would be easier for the US army to carpet bomb northern Afghanistan to end the insurgency, that would not make it alright.

And honestly, the last line really makes me think of some North Korean "comrade"

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:30pm

McDougal wrote: »

The taliban are a guerilla army and no guerilla armies wear uniforms. The taliban are a guerilla uniform because they have inferior technology. They don't have fighter bombers that cost $50million. If the yankee cowards stop using their cluster bombs, tanks and gunships and make it a fair fight then the taliban can start wearing uniforms.

Clawdeeus wrote: »

Whilst I agree that not wearing uniforms is not a reason for the enemy to cut of body parts as trophies, it is ridiclous to say that not wearing uniforms is somehow alright because its harder for them if they do, its harder for everyone.

Im sure it would be easier for the US army to carpet bomb northern Afghanistan to end the insurgency, that would not make it alright.

And honestly, the last line really makes me think of some North Korean "comrade"

The US have no right to be occupying Afghanistan. They should leave immediately.

BigBenRoeth · 10-09-2010 9:36pm

That carry on has been going on since the dawn of time.

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:38pm

BigBenRoeth wrote: »

That carry on has been going on since the dawn of time.

Lets just turn a blind eye to it so:rolleyes:

Imagine if an Irish person said that after bloody sunday in Derry.
"Arra sure this sorta thing happens everywhere, nevermind it".

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:40pm

McDougal wrote: »

The US have no right to be occupying Afghanistan. They should leave immediately.

Well according to international law they do. I guess according to you they do not, but thats a different story, yes?

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:41pm

McDougal wrote: »

Lets just turn a blind eye to it so:rolleyes:

Imagine if an Irish person said that after bloody sunday in Derry.
"Arra sure this sorta thing happens everywhere, nevermind it".

No one is, they are being prosecuted.

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:42pm

Clawdeeus wrote: »

Well according to international law they do. I guess according to you they do not, but thats a different story, yes?

International law my hole. The yankee warlords don't give a damn about international law. They invade first and then set up some so called UN international occupation force when the damage is already done.

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:45pm

McDougal wrote: »

International law my hole. The yankee warlords don't give a damn about international law. They invade first and then set up some so called UN international occupation force when the damage is already done.

Of course they dont, Im still right though.

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:45pm

Clawdeeus wrote: »

No one is, they are being prosecuted.

Only because they were caught. We'll never know how many of these are covered up internally.

Just like the My Lai massacre was only investigated because a journalist was brave enough to expose it. There were a 1000 My Lai massacres that were ignored.

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:46pm

McDougal wrote: »

Only because they were caught. We'll never know how many of these are covered up internally.

Just like the My Lai massacre was only investigated because a journalist was brave enough to expose it. There were a 1000 My Lai massacres that were ignored.

... Are you aware of how stupid this is?

Yes, people have to be caught to be prosecuted.

McDougal · 10-09-2010 9:50pm

Clawdeeus wrote: »

... Are you aware of how stupid this is?

Yes, people have to be caught to be prosecuted.

And the US military will make sure their crimes are never outed. Lets not forget who sets the laws in the first place. Saddam gets hanged for being a war criminal yet Bush is now sunning himself on a beach somewhere.

round tower huntsman · 10-09-2010 9:54pm

thats the price of freedom.
team america...fcuk yeah................

MySelf56 · 10-09-2010 9:56pm

Sykk wrote: »

Yes the 5-10 lads in that represent the American Army. Jaysus we've had enough of these threads already.

exactly only 13 lads/lunatics/fukwits from Saudi did 9/11, entire Islam came into scrutiny 2 countries bombed with depleted uranium shells, sent back 20 yrs. Jaysus !!

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 9:59pm

McDougal wrote: »

And the US military will make sure their crimes are never outed. Lets not forget who sets the laws in the first place. Saddam gets hanged for being a war criminal yet Bush is now sunning himself on a beach somewhere.

Do you not see the flaw in your argument? The US military outed these soldiers, according to the scource that YOU supplied. So, yes they are enforcing the laws after they have been breeched, as they should be.

Bush is a different matter, I seriously doubt the US military has the authority or power to prosecute him, even if they wanted to.

Jonah42 · 10-09-2010 10:10pm

A dude I know that served in Iraq nearly sprayed an entire crowd of civilians.

They turned up to laugh at him trying to revive his mate that was killed by an IED.

digme · 10-09-2010 10:12pm

Jonah42 wrote: »

A dude I know that served in Iraq nearly sprayed an entire crowd of civilians.

They turned up to laugh at him trying to revive his mate that was killed by an IED.

what was he doing in iraq?

McDougal · 10-09-2010 10:12pm

Clawdeeus wrote: »

Do you not see the flaw in your argument? The US military outed these soldiers, according to the scource that YOU supplied. So, yes they are enforcing the laws after they have been breeched, as they should be.

Bush is a different matter, I seriously doubt the US military has the authority or power to prosecute him, even if they wanted to.

So they throw a couple of dumbass rednecks to the wolves every now and then. It still covers up the fact that the responsibilty for these massacres rests at the very top. These poor rednecks are dehumaised in training and encouraged to be racist and islamophobic. They are turned into trigger happy killing machines.

Clawdeeus · 10-09-2010 10:13pm

McDougal wrote: »

So they throw a couple of dumbass rednecks to the wolves every now and then. It still covers up the fact that the responsibilty for these massacres rests at the very top. These poor rednecks are dehumaised in training and encouraged to be racist and islamophobic. They are turned into trigger happy killing machines.

And Im out.

Chorcai · 10-09-2010 10:14pm

So people were going ape shít over burning a book, fúck know what will happen now.

US soldiers allegedly kept Afghan body parts as trophies

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