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9/11 Attacks

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    lord-of-the-rings-ii-teaser-two-towers.jpg

    Was JRR Tolkien in on it as well????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    You didn't read my post.

    It's the freemasons who are behind the 9/11 attacks.

    Freemasons who use the twin pillars of Boaz and Jachin

    I did read it, but you're basing your belief on specific factors which were selectively chosen for the means of giving a particular outcome


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Was JRR Tolkien in on it as well????

    He could be seen as a prophet I suppose. The little people (you and I) going on a journey of discovery to destroy the faceless evil. All wrapped up in a nice kiddies book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    demonspawn wrote: »
    All wrapped up in a nice kiddies book.

    So we're back on topic then. The Commission report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Wanna see the real "11"? Complete with an inverted Star of David. They are the equivalent to Satanists in Christianity.

    You do realise that Satan is part and parcel of Judaism too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    demonspawn wrote: »
    He could be seen as a prophet I suppose. The little people (you and I) going on a journey of discovery to destroy the faceless evil. All wrapped up in a nice kiddies book.

    The Lord of the Rings is not exactly a "nice kiddies book". What does the book have to do with 9/11??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    I did read it, but you're basing your belief on specific factors which were selectively chosen for the means of giving a particular outcome
    I find the second note folding part most relevant here. :D

    I did laugh at the Tolkien reference alright but after a quick google it seems there's a lot of people trying to make a connection between him and Freemasonry. It's quite amusing actually, especially when you consider the fact he got most of his inspiration from pagan sources such as Kalevala and The Ring Cycle of the Niebulung along with other ancient Celtic and Germanic mythology.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    alastair wrote: »
    You do realise that Satan is part and parcel of Judaism too?

    They don't call him Satan.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    What does the book have to do with 9/11??

    Because Sauromans tower was taken down by a controlled explosion. It was an inside job!! Don't believe me? Explain this so!

    7203_34cb_480.jpeg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    When logic fails, resort to mockery. Good job.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    demonspawn wrote: »
    When logic fails, resort to mockery. Good job.

    Its a joke. No offence or mockery is intended. Thought it might lighten the mood. Thats all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    yekahs wrote: »
    Its a joke. No offence or mockery is intended. Thought it might lighten the mood. Thats all.

    It did! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭gizmo


    Gandalf's face at the end and the text always makes me lol. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Divorce Referendum


    demonspawn wrote: »
    The iron oxide content present in Portland cement is not enough to create the aluminum/iron oxide chips found at the WTC site.

    The only other explanation for those chips is Thermite.

    Try again.

    Why how do you know. How much content is needed? How much concrete was in the WTC? You just told me there was no iron oxide in concrete earlier, now you know there is. And now you suddenly know its not enough. Very strange.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭pablo_escobar


    alastair wrote: »
    Are silly soundbites your speciality, or just all you can muster?

    Care to list the 'neo-con and zionist media organizations' (I'm assuming you don't mean to use the americanisation there - our are you a Mossad plant sent here to undermine the, as yet, handily undefined, conspiracy)?

    Well, you aught to know..

    Your speciality appears to be dodging perfectly valid questions and goading people on CT forum.

    I asked you a valid question, 1 which you failed to answer in a mature manner, and this is the best you come back with?

    Why the hell would any sane person waste their time with your constant mocking is beyond me.

    There would appear to be some pleasure for you in antagonising people on this board instead of engaging in some meaningful conversation i have no doubt you're incapable of.

    I have no time for that behaviour or you for that matter.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    alastair wrote: »
    Now - they didn't get orders to stand down - they were told to try a different strategy - and to quote the delightfully monikered Mr Fury - they subsequently thought that they had killed him with a bombing campaign - doesn't sound much like 'letting him go' to me.

    They changed from a strategy of killing him to not killing him and letting him escape.

    Some stellar tactics right here.

    Edit: And you never answered happman's question:

    Is there any aspect of the commission report which you are sceptical about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    demonspawn wrote: »
    They don't call him Satan.

    “R. Joshua b. Levi also said: When Moses descended from before the Holy One, blessed be He.
    Satan came and asked Him, ‘Sovereign of the Universe! Where is the Torah? ‘I have given it to the earth.’ answered He to him. He went to the earth and said to her, ‘Where is the Torah?’ ‘God understandeth the way thereof, etc.’ she replied. He went to the sea and it told him, ‘It is not with me.’ He went to the deep and it said to him, ‘It is not in me,’ for it is said. The deep saith, It is not in me: And the sea saith, It is not with me. Destruction and Death say, We have heard a rumour thereof with our ears. He went back and declared before Him, ‘Sovereign of the Universe! I have searched throughout all the earth but have not found it!’ ‘Go thee to the son of Amram. answered He. [So] he went to Moses and asked him” (Shabbat 89 a)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Divorce Referendum


    Just decided to tot up the figures
    Portland cement contains 3-8% aluminium oxide, 0.5-0.6% iron-oxide, 60-70% calcium oxide, 17-25% silicon oxide, 0.1-4% magnesium oxide and 1-3% sulphur trioxide

    So there was 425,000 cubic yards of concrete Source:http://www.infoplease.com/spot/wtc1.html#axzz0zAarnZi2

    Thats 324,935 cubic metres of concrete for us french and 15% of that is cement = 48,740 cubic metres of cement used in the construction

    There is 0.5% of iron oxide in cement. So 0.5% of 48,740 cubic metres is 243 cubic metres of iron oxide. Density of iron oxide = 5.2g/cm cubed. Thats 5200kg/metres cubed. Thats 1,263 tonnes of iron oxide. Thats more than the 100 tonnes of thermite that Neils Harrit said was supposedly used in iron oxide alone. There is alumnium oxide in cement to in much larger quantities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair



    I have no time for that behaviour or you for that matter.

    Buh bye!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    They changed from a strategy of killing him to not killing him and letting him escape.

    Some stellar tactics right here.


    They were dropping bombs on the guy - is that the action of a military intent on letting him go?
    Edit: And you never answered happman's question:

    Is there any aspect of the commission report which you are sceptical about?

    I did actually. But don't let that stop a good old whinge.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    gizmo wrote: »
    I find the second note folding part most relevant here. :D

    I did laugh at the Tolkien reference alright but after a quick google it seems there's a lot of people trying to make a connection between him and Freemasonry. It's quite amusing actually, especially when you consider the fact he got most of his inspiration from pagan sources such as Kalevala and The Ring Cycle of the Niebulung along with other ancient Celtic and Germanic mythology.

    Patternicity tbh.. I think everyone displays it though. It's abundant in this forum.. from both sides when you think about it

    When you notice that your microwave is displaying 12.34, it's actually the "trademark" prompt of a group of just 1,234 fun-loving hellraisers, or spirits.. or whatever else you're into, and the 12:34 prompt is their way of using our innate ability for pattern recognition to let us know that they are here.

    on the eleventh of November 2011, I bet people will pay attention to the fact that there's a pattern in the date.. even though there is no logical reason to do so


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    alastair wrote: »
    They were dropping bombs on the guy



    /QUOTE]

    Source? Seriously, where are you getting this stuff from
    American media, independant media? Al Queada? The Daily Star?

    Ever felt you have been corrupted Alastair. Wonder will I get a link to the source of that info....probaly not, like all the other info I asked for but 'curiously' isn't available.
    Alastair, you have made yourself redunant to this thread, why?
    I think you you were biased before 9-11.

    You are a smart guy who can digest info, but you patently can't interpret it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭pablo_escobar


    alastair wrote: »
    Buh bye!

    You didn't answer my question, yet again.

    This is the 3rd time you've ignored answering my question which is perfectly valid.

    If this is all you're capable of, seek help.

    That's all I can advise you to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Ok, so off to bed now and I was wondering if we could give it a rest for 24 hours as it's now Sept. 11. Perhaps as a sign of respect for the people that died 9 years ago and the people who continue to suffer. Lots of other CTs or whatever to talk about for one day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    alastair wrote: »
    They were dropping bombs on the guy



    /QUOTE]

    Source? Seriously where are you getting this stuff from
    American media, independant media? Al Queada? The Daily Star?

    Ever felt you have been corrupted Alastair. Wonder will I get a link to the source of that info....probaly not, like all the other info I asked for but 'curiously' isn't available.
    Alastair, you have made yourself redunant to this thread, why?
    I think you you were biased before 9-11.

    You are a smart guy who can digest info, but you patently can't interpret it, because of the ramrod up your a***.
    Sorry mods, but he hasn't been dealing with the issues AT ALL.

    I can't engage with you Alataiir any miore, you offer me nothing,
    I say what I mean and I am met with somebody who squirms at the idea of changing his view. . I offered you 'doubt' you fell back on the report again and again, and refused to 'think indepentantly of the COMMISSION.

    An object lesson in why you shouldn't post when you're pissed.

    You don't need to look far for a source - the very same Mr Fury (he of the delta force actions) that was supposedly told to 'let him go' has this to say:
    "The operation Jackal team observed 50 men moving into a cave that they hadn't seen before. The Mujahideen said they saw an individual, a taller fellow, wearing a camouflage jacket. Everybody put two and two together, 'Okay, that's got to be Osama Bin Laden egressing from the battlefield.' They called up every available bomb in the air, took control of the airspace. And they dropped several hours of bombs on the cave he went into. We believe, it was our opinion at the time, that he died inside that cave," Fury says.

    Bin Laden's radio went silent. And Dalton Fury believed the bombs had killed him. Six months later, American and Canadian forces came back for proof. They checked al Qaeda fighting holes and used explosives to try open up collapsed caves. They hoped to find bin Laden’s body in an al Qaeda graveyard rising from the opium poppies.

    The troops dug up bodies, removed fingers for forensic analysis, but, there was no luck. In October 2004, bin Laden released a video and Fury knew his team had failed.

    Yeah - they reckoned they were 'letting him go' alright - helping him along by dropping bombs on top of him.

    Oh, and reported post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Well then, alastair.

    Why don't the FBI want him for questioning?

    Surely, his confession is valid in court of law? if not, why not?

    The FBI do want him for questioning.
    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

    And given that all that's needed is one indictment - they've no need to do anything more. As they say on their most wanted web page:
    The indictments currently listed on the posters allow them to be arrested and brought to justice. Future indictments may be handed down as various investigations proceed in connection to other terrorist incidents, for example, the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001.

    To clarify the FBI's attitude to bin Laden:

    FBI Chief Robert Mueller talking to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, 2003
    The al-Qaeda terrorist network headed by Usama Bin Laden is clearly the most urgent threat to US interests. The evidence linking al-Qaeda to the attacks of September 11 is clear and irrefutable, and our investigation of the events leading up to 9/11 has given rise to important insights into terrorist tactics and tradecraft, which will prove invaluable as we work to prevent the next attack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Alastair, I apologise for my post. You are correct, it was alcohol fueled. As you have quoted it, it is kinda pointless deleteing the insults in it, but I will.
    I totally agree with Demonspawn that we should be silent today. To all who have given their lives and happiness on that day and as a result of that day: rest in peace.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Alastair, I apologise for my post. You are correct, it was alcohol fueled. As you have quoted it, it is kinda pointless deleteing the insults in it, but I will.
    I totally agree with Demonspawn that we should be silent today. To all who have given their lives and happiness on that day and as a result of that day: rest in peace.


    Ha Ha, withdraw nothing :D. Drink fuelled posts are the best, most honest ;)


    Happy 9/11 everyone :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


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    No that hand symbol is the international sign language symbol for "love"


    The number 9 is left out because it is sacred to the Illuminati. 5/5/1776 is when the Illuminati was founded. 5 + 1 + 1 + 7 + 7 + 6 => 27 = 2 + 7 = 9.


    Thats nothing did you know that the towers are actually Capricorns?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Guys, I think it's highly disrespectful to be continuing this today. It's 24 hours, you can't just find something else to talk about for one day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    You know you can feel when you're stepping over people !



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    demonspawn wrote: »
    Guys, I think it's highly disrespectful to be continuing this today. It's 24 hours, you can't just find something else to talk about for one day?


    No ! I'lll never stop speaking the truth, especially today, in respect of the murdered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    According to the US Census Bureau (for 2009), there are 1.8 deaths per second worldwide, meaning that there are over 100 deaths per minute. There are over 150,000 deaths per day and over 55 million deaths per year.

    One of the biggest causes of death in the world is cardiovascular disease, with Cancer not far behind. Over one million people died in 2008 as a result of diseases such as AIDS and other STDs.

    A large amount of deaths also occur because of accidents such as falls. One of the main causes of death that isn't related to illness are road traffic accidents. Over 480,000 deaths occurred in 2008 as a result of road accidents.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Can I ask Alastair, Meglone and Diogenes if there is anything in the Final Report that they find suspect? And do they believe that the Commission carried out its remit fully?

    I believe that the commission achieved what it set out to achieve successfully within the remit of what it did. The committee chair agrees.

    Rather than demand I find my own flaws in my own beliefs, perhaps you'd like to do you own work. You're unsatisfied with my opinion as to what happened on 9/11 don't expect me to make your argument for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    A bomb hit the lobby first ?



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    Di0genes wrote: »
    I believe that the commission achieved what it set out to achieve successfully within the remit of what it did. The committee chair agrees.

    Rather than demand I find my own flaws in my own beliefs, perhaps you'd like to do you own work. You're unsatisfied with my opinion as to what happened on 9/11 don't expect me to make your argument for you.


    Thomas Keane, Chairman of the 9/11 commission report :

    "it was destined to fail"

    You believe what you want di0genes, actually !!! the chairman said it failed to achieve what it set out to achieve.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Soveriegn wrote: »
    You believe what you want di0genes, actually !!! the chairman said it failed to achieve what it set out to achieve.


    No he doesn't. He says quite the opposite. You do understand the difference between accusations of being 'set up to fail' and actually 'failing'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    alastair wrote: »
    No he doesn't. He says quite the opposite. You do understand the difference between accusations of being 'set up to fail' and actually 'failing'?


    LOL

    Ok, he's saying it was successful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    alastair wrote: »
    No he doesn't. He says quite the opposite. You do understand the difference between accusations of being 'set up to fail' and actually 'failing'?


    The book was released on August 15, 2006 and chronicles the work of Kean (Commission Chairman) and Hamilton (Commission Vice-Chairman) of the 9/11 Commission. In the book, Kean and Hamilton charge that the 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail," and write that the commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by officials from The Pentagon and the Federal Aviation Administration during the investigation that it considered a separate investigation into possible obstruction of justice by Pentagon and FAA officials.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission


    Ask yourself, WHY ??

    John Farmer, senior counsel to the Commission stated that the Commission "discovered that...what government and military officials had told Congress, the Commission, the media, and the public about who knew what when — was almost entirely, and inexplicably, untrue." Farmer continues: "At some level of the government, at some point in time … there was a decision not to tell the truth about what happened...The (NORAD) tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public."[20] Thomas Kean, the head of the 9/11 Commission, concurred: "We to this day don’t know why NORAD told us what they told us, it was just so far from the truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Soveriegn wrote: »
    A bomb hit the lobby first ?


    Do you know anything about what happened that day?

    As is well known - when the plane hit the building a fireball came down the lift shaft and into the lobby - killing and burning a number of people and damaging some of the lobby.
    Lobby & 3rd floor: Firefighter Peter Blaich
    As we got to the third floor of the B stairway, we forced open an elevator door which was burnt on all three sides. The only thing that was remaining was the hoistway door. And inside the elevator were about I didn’t recognize them initially, but a guy from 1 Truck said oh my God, those are people. They were pretty incinerated. And I remember the overpowering smell of kerosene. That’s when Lieutenant Foti said oh, that’s the jet fuel. I remember it smelled like if you’re camping and you drop a kerosene lamp.

    The same thing happened to the elevators in the main lobby. They were basically blown out. I do’nt recall if I actually saw people in there. What got me initially in the lobby was that as soon as we went in, all the windows were blown out, and there were one or two burning cars outside. And there were burn victims on the street there, walking around. We walked through this giant blown-out window into the lobby.

    There was a lady there screaming that she didn’t know how she got burnt. She was just in the lobby and then next thing she knew she was on fire. She was burnt bad. And somebody came over with a fire extinguisher and was putting water on her.

    That’s the first thing that got me. That and in front of one of the big elevator banks in the lobby was a desk and I definitely made out one of the corpses to be a security guard because he had a security label on his jacket. I’m assuming that maybe he was at a table still in a chair and almost completely incinerated, charred all over his body, definitely dead. And you could make out like a security tag on his jacket. And I remember seeing the table was melted, but he was still fused in the chair and that elevator bank was melted, so I imagine the jet fuel must have blown right down the elevator shaft and I guess caught the security guard at a table, I guess at some type of checkpoint.
    http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9...gz/blaich.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    alastair wrote: »
    Do you know anything about what happened that day?

    Don't change the subject alistair

    Soveriegn wrote: »
    The book was released on August 15, 2006 and chronicles the work of Kean (Commission Chairman) and Hamilton (Commission Vice-Chairman) of the 9/11 Commission. In the book, Kean and Hamilton charge that the 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail," and write that the commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by officials from The Pentagon and the Federal Aviation Administration during the investigation that it considered a separate investigation into possible obstruction of justice by Pentagon and FAA officials.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission


    Ask yourself, WHY ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,989 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Just a thought, Ive always wondered how those guys got the weapons on board unnoticed ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 76 ✭✭housemap


    ebbsy wrote: »
    Just a thought, Ive always wondered how those guys got the weapons on board unnoticed ?

    Security wasn't tight for internal flight's back then and the weapons were just box cutters not ak47's

    Also WTC was not designed to survive a hit by an aircraft. Some people just had a chat about it

    That is a far cry from being specifically designed to survive a hit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    housemap wrote: »
    Security wasn't tight for internal flight's back then and the weapons were just box cutters not ak47's

    Also WTC was not designed to survive a hit by an aircraft. Some people just had a chat about it

    That is a far cry from being specifically designed to survive a hit


    ugghhh

    Video's have been posted of the towers architects stating they were designed to take several hits from 707 jets.

    Then someone stated that the plane that hit was larger than a 707 jet.

    Then I stated, it's only a bit bigger, plus a 707 is faster and they were designed for several hits from a 707 !!

    Then someone pointed out that the architects didn't take into account that the planes could have a full fuel load.

    And now I am pointing out, do you take us for fuking retards and expect us to believe they didn't take fuel into account ?

    Were they solar or wind powered plane they thought might hit the towers on a foggy day ? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,330 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Soveriegn wrote: »
    ugghhh

    Video's have been posted of the towers architects stating they were designed to take several hits from 707 jets.

    Then someone stated that the plane that hit was larger than a 707 jet.

    Then I stated, it's only a bit bigger, plus a 707 is faster and they were designed for several hits from a 707 !!

    That was a construction manager said that before 9/11. It's akin to saying the Titanic was unsinkable before she sailed.
    Soveriegn wrote: »
    Then someone pointed out that the architects didn't take into account that the planes could have a full fuel load.

    And now I am pointing out, do you take us for fuking retards and expect us to believe they didn't take fuel into account ?

    Were they solar or wind powered plane they thought might hit the towers on a foggy day ? :D

    The Chief Structural Engineer Leslie Robertson said they never took into account a plane with a full fuel load being deliberately crashed into the building. They only considered a slow flying plane low on fuel lost in fog on a landing pattern as the only example they had of a plane crashing into a building was the B25 in 1945. What you state is incorrect.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Soveriegn wrote: »
    ugghhh

    Video's have been posted of the towers architects stating they were designed to take several hits from 707 jets.

    Then someone stated that the plane that hit was larger than a 707 jet.

    Then I stated, it's only a bit bigger, plus a 707 is faster and they were designed for several hits from a 707 !!

    Then someone pointed out that the architects didn't take into account that the planes could have a full fuel load.

    And now I am pointing out, do you take us for fuking retards and expect us to believe they didn't take fuel into account ?

    Were they solar or wind powered plane they thought might hit the towers on a foggy day ? :D

    ON that note.

    September 11: planes that hit WTC were not Boeing 767s

    The official report by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) relating to the two planes that crashed into WTC on September 11, 2001 shows that they were traveling at a speed of 945 km/h and 796 km/h respectively.

    Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, has pointed out that, according to the manufacturer, the Boeing 767 develops structural failure and dismembers at a speed surpassing 660 km/h when flying at near sea level in thick air. This has also been certified by a former senior NASA executive, Dwain Deets.

    It necessarily follows that the aircraft that slammed into the World Trade Center could not have been the planes corresponding to commercial flights United 175 and American 11.

    In his book The Big Lie, Thierry Meyssan had entertained the possibility that the two aircraft had actually been substituted by military planes according to the procedure contemplated in Operation Northwoods (p. 168).

    The NTSB report, which was declassified at the request of Pilots for 9/11 Truth, had already revealed that the cockpit door of flight American 77 had remained locked from the time of take-off until it disappeared from radar screens and allegedly crashed at the Pentagon site. The logical conclusion is that it would have been materially impossible to highjack the flight.
    http://www.voltairenet.org/article166661.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 217 ✭✭Soveriegn


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    That was a construction manager said that before 9/11. It's akin to saying the Titanic was unsinkable before she sailed.



    The Chief Structural Engineer Leslie Robertson said they never took into account a plane with a full fuel load being deliberately crashed into the building. They only considered a slow flying plane low on fuel lost in fog on a landing pattern as the only example they had of a plane crashing into a building was the B25 in 1945. What you state is incorrect.

    Ok. I refer you back to this.
    The book was released on August 15, 2006 and chronicles the work of Kean (Commission Chairman) and Hamilton (Commission Vice-Chairman) of the 9/11 Commission. In the book, Kean and Hamilton charge that the 9/11 Commission was "set up to fail," and write that the commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by officials from The Pentagon and the Federal Aviation Administration during the investigation that it considered a separate investigation into possible obstruction of justice by Pentagon and FAA officials.

    The chairman and vice chairman stated that they were frustrated with repeated misstatements by officials from The Pentagon and the Federal Aviation Administration during the investigation that it considered a separate investigation.

    Why would they give misstatements ?


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