9/11 Attacks

meglome

Happyman42 wrote: »

But they ignored evidence that he had a national ID and said instead that:
'this lack of US identification as the reason Al Suqami took his passport on his final flight, enabling it to be found.'

But there's no evidence that he had an ID card. He didn't use one and one was never found. Speculation isn't evidence.

Happyman42 wrote: »

Does your mind not ask.....What if Caprice C was lying or was simply wrong and he actually used his National ID?
Would you, 'looking for the truth' at least investigate the newspapers findings and report? Can you see how it casts doubt on their finding in this instance?

If I was investigating a crime of course I WOULD assume there was a conspiracy, that's my job ffs. Then the next step is to find out who was involved in that conspiracy. They simply didn't look at all the evidence.

My mind sometimes wonders why I'm not a king and living in a castle but that would also be irrelevant. No offence but you seem to have no idea how a court of law or commission works. They follow the evidence, they do not assume what happened, they do not chase things that cannot be shown to exist. They do not assume witnesses are lying or 'in on it' when there is no evidence for such a thing. You on the other hand are assuming it was a conspiracy after the fact and wondering why the commission didn't, even though they never would.

Happyman42 wrote: »

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Yes there is.

What is the evidence he had an ID card?
And even if we assume for second he did what evidence is there that he used it?

Happyman42 wrote: »

How do you know it was the same passport?

The witnesses and the evidence say that it was. Have you got other evidence?

Happyman42 wrote: »

If it was just a passport wouldn't that strike you as odd?

But it wasn't just a passport that was found. As I've already said a passport would be much much more likely to be handed to a cop than a seat cushion or life-vest. Someone might have picked them up but would have no reason to give them to a cop at that point.

Happyman42 wrote: »

Speculation, No need for the NYPD to be involved, the officer was just doing his job.

You know what amuses me somewhat... the CT world thinks people won't talk to them because they have been 'gotten to'. But many people have been harassed and threatened by CT'ers so if I was that guy who picked up the passport i wouldn't dream of coming forward, it would be a nightmare.

Happyman42 wrote: »

Why did he apply for an National ID, was it because his passport was compromised? He is reputed to be the leader of that cell, was he going to risk the operation with a dodgy passport that had failed to get him into Bahamas?

It was a legit passport, he just wasn't welcome in the Bahamas. Obviously you understand to apply for an ID he'd have to properly identify himself, thus using his passport. And Mohamed Atta was supposed to be leader of the cell.

Happyman42 wrote: »

Makes it's survival even more highly unlikely imo. Soaked in jet fuel??? so it managed to escape a hideous fireball soaked in incredibly combustible fuel and didn't light? Have you ever sprinkled ordinary petrol and set it alight?

I have lit petrol before but i wonder if you have. Petrol can be surprising difficult to light and the same goes for jet fuel. In the movies they throw a match onto it or shoot a bullet but in the real world nether of those things is likely to ignite petrol or Jet fuel. The blast wave is carrying the passport away from the flames anyway.

Happyman42

alastair wrote: »

we know he used his passport to check in at Logan.

How? Far as I know we have one Ticket agent who said he used it. Transcripts of the interview please (to assess how rigourous it was) or a copy taken off the passport.

Why would a man (who knew he was going to die) apply for another form of ID if he wasn't going to use it?

alastair

Soveriegn wrote: »

This video is such a load of bull. Just like with most other 9/11 bull, we are expected to not believe our own eyes.


Here are just 2 of hundreds of examples where you can count along.

Try counting along to this - and make it fit into 9.25 seconds.

http://www.911myths.com/WTC2Collapse.mpeg

alastair

Soveriegn wrote: »

Coz thermite could be the culprit for the molten steel found at the base of the towers weeks after 9/11.

And it does kinda explode.

Plus it was a military grade, advanced thermate, how would you really know what it does ?

Maybe it was just, you know, magic thermite - the long-lasting stuff?

meglome

Happyman42 wrote: »

How? Far as I know we have one Ticket agent who said he used it. Transcripts of the interview please (to assess how rigourous it was) or a copy taken off the passport.

You mean the one person who took it from him and checked it was the one person to say they saw it? The person who was supposed to do that as it was her job. You see how you're assuming a conspiracy again, something which a commission would never do.
Copies of passports are still not taken to this day, why would there be a copy of it?

Happyman42 wrote: »

Why would a man (who knew he was going to die) apply for another form of ID if he wasn't going to use it?

Firstly we'd prove he actually did such a thing. Not only that but when he supposedly did it.

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

Transcripts of the interviews with Caprice C? Photocopy taken at check -in?

Who had their passports photocopied in 2001?

The woman was interviewed two days later - two days in which no-one went through any check-ins. Not much scope for forgetting her last few check-ins, is it?

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

Why would a man (who knew he was going to die) apply for another form of ID if he wasn't going to use it?

Why would he have signed up for a months gym time, why would any of them have bothered with hold luggage? Maybe they couldn't be sure they would pull it off that day.

alastair

meglome wrote: »

I have lit petrol before but i wonder if you have. Petrol can be surprising difficult to light and the same goes for jet fuel. In the movies they throw a match onto it or shoot a bullet but in the real world nether of those things is likely to ignite petrol or Jet fuel. The blast wave is carrying the passport away from the flames anyway.

Aviation fuel is less flammable than petrol - for what it's worth.

demonspawn

Divorce Referendum wrote: »

Hmmm wonder where the aluminium and iron oxide came from:rolleyes:

You mean the two main components of Thermite? Gee, I wonder where it came from alright. :rolleyes:

Maybe they didn't bother using Thermate, maybe they just brought in bags of regular Themite for the whole year after Saddam declared that he was going to begin selling his oil for euros back in 2000.

demonspawn

alastair wrote: »

Why would he have signed up for a months gym time, why would any of them have bothered with hold luggage? Maybe they couldn't be sure they would pull it off that day.

Or maybe they were just regular passengers who can no longer defend their innocence.

Happyman42

Have either you or Alastair ever come across the term 'INVESTIGATE'
My point is that the commission chose to ignore or were never presented with or decided not to investigate certain things. Therefore my assessment (and you of course are entitled to yours) is that their findings are not conclusive. Meglone, go back to the article from the newspaper and at the bottom you have the sources for the information they revealed. You two are 'speculating' as to why they didn't consider or investigate this evidence from a pro-Commission point of view. I am not saying that they are wrong, what I am saying is that their failure to review this casts doubts on their findings. And the Passport issue is not the only one.

meglome wrote: »

But there's no evidence that he had an ID card. He didn't use one and one was never found. Speculation isn't evidence.
As I say, go back to the newspaper article. I have no way of checking their sources but the Commission had.



My mind sometimes wonders why I'm not a king and living in a castle but that would also be irrelevant. No offence but you seem to have no idea how a court of law or commission works. They follow the evidence, they do not assume what happened, they do not chase things that cannot be shown to exist.
First the INVESTIGATION (that word again) then the Commission assess & adjudicate the INVESTIGATIONS (jaysus there it is again) interogate the witnesses and issue their findings. Am I right?

They do not assume witnesses are lying or 'in on it' when there is no evidence for such a thing.

An INVESTIGATION assumes witnesses might not be telling the truth, ever hear of the word INTEROGATION? I would like to see how rigourous that was as I would in a 'normal' court of law.


You on the other hand are assuming it was a conspiracy after the fact and wondering why the commission didn't, even though they never would.

It was a 'conspiracy', fact.
Who was involved was what the Commission was tasked to find out.





What is the evidence he had an ID card?
And even if we assume for second he did what evidence is there that he used it?
Check the newspapers sources, or at the very least be critical that the Commission didn't.



The witnesses and the evidence say that it was. Have you got other evidence?
No. But as an INVESTIGATOR I would be curious as to why he would apply for an ID card, and why all the others who applied with him, used theirs that day but he decided to risk a dodgy passport.



But it wasn't just a passport that was found. As I've already said a passport would be much much more likely to be handed to a cop than a seat cushion or life-vest. Someone might have picked them up but would have no reason to give them to a cop at that point.

You or Alastair said that identification documents( drivers licences etc) where found, as important as a passport, no?



You know what amuses me somewhat... the CT world thinks people won't talk to them because they have been 'gotten to'. But many people have been harassed and threatened by CT'ers so if I was that guy who picked up the passport i wouldn't dream of coming forward, it would be a nightmare.
Maybe, but that hasn't stopped people coming forward from a sense of duty either.



It was a legit passport, he just wasn't welcome in the Bahamas. Obviously you understand to apply for an ID he'd have to properly identify himself, thus using his passport.
The report Alastair posted earlier, which I quoted, says that his passport was clearly stamped with the date of his visa expiration, the found passport had that date altered, a 'suspect indicator'(I think that was the term) according to the FBI. It isn't a big leap of sense to assume that ihe might have applied for different ID or aquired a second passport from dodgy Saudi Passport office (FBI's Assessment) The imperative for an investigator reaching that conclusion (remember it's his job to follow leads and his hunches) would be to INVESTIGATE.....no?
And Mohamed Atta was supposed to be leader of the cell.
Apologies, the same FBI document names him as the probable leader of the cell that took the plane, not the maiin group of 19


I have lit petrol before but i wonder if you have. Petrol can be surprising difficult to light and the same goes for jet fuel. In the movies they throw a match onto it or shoot a bullet but in the real world nether of those things is likely to ignite petrol or Jet fuel. The blast wave is carrying the passport away from the flames anyway.

Now you are talking rubbish

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

You mean the two main components of Thermite? Gee, I wonder where it came from alright. :rolleyes:

I can think of much more plausible reasons for rust and aluminium to be in the rubble of a collapsed sky scraper.

alastair

demonspawn wrote: »

Or maybe they were just regular passengers who can no longer defend their innocence.

Witnessed hijacking the plane by those on the plane?

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

Have either you or Alastair ever come across the term 'INVESTIGATE'
My point is that the commission chose to ignore or were never presented with or decided not to investigate certain things.

They only investigated actual evidence. Awful, isn't it?

Di0genes

Happyman42 wrote: »

Have either you or Alastair ever come across the term 'INVESTIGATE'

I dont know do you know how to use the quote function.

My point is that the commission chose to ignore or were never presented with or decided not to investigate certain things.

If they investigated every possible reason for every possible piece of evidence it would probably be in session for 300 years.

Therefore my assessment (and you of course are entitled to yours) is that their findings are not conclusive.

The passport was recovered in the rubble. The Air Hostess recalls checking in the the hijacker with the passport when he boarded the plane.

Trying to figure out alternative conclusions as to how the passport arrived in New York is a complete waste of time.

And the Passport issue is not the only one.

The passport issue isn't an issue. Please find something reasonable to clutch at.

Divorce Referendum

demonspawn wrote: »

You mean the two main components of Thermite? Gee, I wonder where it came from alright. :rolleyes:

Maybe they didn't bother using Thermate, maybe they just brought in bags of regular Themite for the whole year after Saddam declared that he was going to begin selling his oil for euros back in 2000.

Oh jees. Cement which is used in concrete which im sure the WTC had plenty of uses iron oxide in its manufacturing process and also as a colourant or did you know that already:rolleyes:. As for elemental aluminium well try the whole facade of the building or would you dispute that. Hardly unusual to find that in the dust of a building that had been just pulverised.

Happyman42

alastair wrote: »

Aviation fuel is less flammable than petrol - for what it's worth.

And, your point is? The aviation fuel ignited why wouldn't the aviation fuel soaked passport? It's just an other improbable in an already fantastic survival. Was anything else ejected from the building that day on fire? The seats are clearly smouldering on the street in photos so Meglone's statement that it survived because it was exploded from the plane doesn't hold.
It survived, miraculously.

Di0genes

Happyman42 wrote: »

And, your point is? The aviation fuel ignited why wouldn't the aviation fuel soaked passport? It's just an other improbable in an already fantastic survival. Was anything else ejected from the building that day on fire? The seats are clearly smouldering on the street in photos so Meglone's statement that it survived because it was exploded from the plane doesn't hold.
It survived, miraculously.

"Orange County, CA., Sept. 11 - Lisa Anne Frost was 22 and had just graduated from Boston University in May 2001 with two degrees and multiple academic and service honors. She had worked all summer in Boston before coming home, finally, to California to start her new life. The Rancho Santa Margarita woman was on United Flight 175 on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, when it became the second plane to slam into the World Trade Center...

Her parents, Tom and Melanie Frost, have spent two years knowing they will never understand why.

A few days before the first anniversary of our daughter's murder, we were notified that they had found a piece of her in the piles and piles of gritty rubble of the World Trade Center that had been hauled out to Staten Island. It was Lisa's way, we believe, of telling us she wasn't lost.

In February, the day of the Columbia tragedy, we got word they'd found her United Airlines Mileage Plus card. It was found very near where they'd found a piece of her right hip. We imagine that she used the card early on the morning of Sept. 11 to get on the plane and just stuck it in her back pocket, probably her right back pocket, instead of in her purse. They have found no other personal effects".

http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html

On Oct. 12, it arrived inside a second envelope at Mrs. Snyder's modest white house on Main Street here, and the instant she took it out and saw it, she says, ''chills just went over me.'' It was singed and crumpled. A chunk was ripped out, giving the bottom of the envelope she had sent the look of a jagged skyline. Mrs. Snyder's lyrical script had blurred into the scorched paper. The stamp, depicting a World War II sailor embracing a woman welcoming him home, was intact.

Along with the letter was a note: ''To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy. Sincerely, a friend in New York!''

Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. At least one auction house has contacted her, saying she could sell the letter for tens of thousands of dollars.

http://gk.nytimes.com/mem/gatekeeper.html?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/national/20LETT.html&OP=2edab88aQ2F-xQ3AO-wp5tDppJQ51-Q51))Q22-Q22Q51-Q51)-yQ3DJRpyQ3D6-Q51)hQ3EccfmJG6


Mail and and Air miileage card are examples of material recovered from the WTC planes.

You're getting more and more tenuous with each post.

demonspawn

Divorce Referendum wrote: »

Oh jees. Cement which is used in concrete which im sure the WTC had plenty of uses iron oxide in its manufacturing process and also as a colourant or did you know that already:rolleyes:. As for elemental aluminium well try the whole facade of the building or would you dispute that. Hardly unusual to find that in the dust of a building that had been just pulverised.

Well very convenient then that Thermite is composed of aluminum and iron oxide then isn't it? And what type of concrete uses iron oxide? Only decorative concrete that does not have any structural use whatsoever. What concrete in the WTC was like this? Any pics?

Happyman42

Di0genes wrote: »

I dont know do you know how to use the quote function.



If they investigated every possible reason for every possible piece of evidence it would probably be in session for 300 years.



The passport was recovered in the rubble. The Air Hostess recalls checking in the the hijacker with the passport when he boarded the plane.

Trying to figure out alternative conclusions as to how the passport arrived in New York is a complete waste of time.



The passport issue isn't an issue. Please find something reasonable to clutch at.

Whoa whoa whoa, since when do you get to decide what's an issue?

If either you, Alastair or Meglone ever get to investigate anything I sincerely hope it's only your navels.

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

Well very convenient then that Thermite is composed of aluminum and iron oxide then isn't it? And what type of concrete uses iron oxide? Only decorative concrete that does not have any structural use whatsoever. What concrete in the WTC was like this? Any pics?

It's not very convenient. What they picked an method of controlled demolition based on what the building the wanted to demolish was made of?

pablo_escobar

Bush and his cronies said that Bin Laden was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks yet the FBI have said publicly there's no evidence linking Bin Laden to the event.

Divorce Referendum

demonspawn wrote: »

Well very convenient then that Thermite is composed of aluminum and iron oxide then isn't it? And what type of concrete uses iron oxide? Only decorative concrete that does not have any structural use whatsoever. What concrete in the WTC was like this? Any pics?

Am are you reading my posts or just blurting out random stuff.It is used in all structural concrete because it is contained in the cement. Portland cement which is an additive in concrete is made using iron oxide.

Materials that contain appropriate amounts of calcium compounds, silica, alumina and iron oxide are crushed and screened and placed in a rotating cement kiln. Ingredients used in this process are typically materials such as limestone, marl, shale, iron ore, clay, and fly ash

http://www.cement.org/basics/concretebasics_faqs.asp

It can be used as a colourant in concrete also

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

And, your point is? The aviation fuel ignited why wouldn't the aviation fuel soaked passport? It's just an other improbable in an already fantastic survival. Was anything else ejected from the building that day on fire? The seats are clearly smouldering on the street in photos so Meglone's statement that it survived because it was exploded from the plane doesn't hold.
It survived, miraculously.

Lots of flammable material from the planes survived the crash and fireballs unburned. The photographic and eyewitness evidence is all over the 911 archives.

alastair

demonspawn wrote: »

Well very convenient then that Thermite is composed of aluminum and iron oxide then isn't it? And what type of concrete uses iron oxide? Only decorative concrete that does not have any structural use whatsoever. What concrete in the WTC was like this? Any pics?

The twin towers were filled with plasterboard (all the internal walls) - which contains ample iron oxide.

alastair

pablo_escobar wrote: »

Bush and his cronies said that Bin Laden was the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks yet the FBI have said publicly there's no evidence linking Bin Laden to the event.

Mr Bin Laden begs to differ - he says he/they did it.

pablo_escobar

Professor Peter Dale Scott conducted a recent interview with the reputable independent news organization "The Real News Network"

In an article for prisonplanet.com he commented:

I do not know the truth of what happened on 9/11. I do know for a certainty that there has been a cover-up of 9/11; and also, what the 9/11 Commission itself admits, that there has been high-level governmental lying about what happened, and what didn’t happen, on that day. It became clear to me early on that 9/11 was another in a string of what I have called “deep events” — which I define in my forthcoming book as

events which are systematically ignored, suppressed, or falsified in public (and even internal) government, military and intelligence documents, as well as in the mainstream media and public consciousness. Underlying them is frequently the involvement of deep forces linked to either the drug traffic or to agencies of surveillance (or to both together), whose activities are extremely difficult to discern or document.

For those of you intelligent enough not to blindly accept everything the media and government tells you, here is the interview, uploaded last night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0HJdvD6SJk

pablo_escobar

alastair wrote: »

Mr Bin Laden begs to differ - he says he/they did it.

Well then, alastair.

Why don't the FBI want him for questioning?

Surely, his confession is valid in court of law? if not, why not?

demonspawn

Divorce Referendum wrote: »

Am are you reading my posts or just blurting out random stuff.It is used in all structural concrete because it is contained in the cement. Portland cement which is an additive in concrete is made using iron oxide.

The iron oxide content present in Portland cement is not enough to create the aluminum/iron oxide chips found at the WTC site.

The only other explanation for those chips is Thermite.

Try again.

demonspawn

alastair wrote: »

Mr Bin Laden begs to differ - he says he/they did it.

Bin laden was allowed to escape in the Tora Borra fiasco. This has already been covered so let's not keep going back to that.

alastair

pablo_escobar wrote: »

For those of you intelligent enough not to blindly accept everything the media and government tells you, here is the interview, uploaded last night.

The poet is pushing a book? - and why should I care what he thinks?

alastair

demonspawn wrote: »

Bin laden was allowed to escape in the Tora Borra fiasco. This has already been covered so let's not keep going back to that.

'Let escape' - just like the Soviets 'let him escape'.

Happyman42

Di0genes wrote: »

http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html




http://gk.nytimes.com/mem/gatekeeper.html?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/20/national/20LETT.html&OP=2edab88aQ2F-xQ3AO-wp5tDppJQ51-Q51))Q22-Q22Q51-Q51)-yQ3DJRpyQ3D6-Q51)hQ3EccfmJG6


Mail and and Air miileage card are examples of material recovered from the WTC planes.

You're getting more and more tenuous with each post.

What exactly is your point?
It's miraculous, I never denied that, it is why the stories are in the NY times, after all.
Only 2 pieces of paper mail? Passport makes it 3. I didn't know that, what else recovered was paper, do we know?

pablo_escobar

alastair wrote:

The poet is pushing a book? - and why should I care what he thinks?

I posted the video for resourceful individuals.

pablo_escobar

alastair wrote:

'Let escape' - just like the Soviets 'let him escape'.

So you've ignored my question.

*sigh*

We already know the answer anyway.

demonspawn

alastair wrote: »

'Let escape' - just like the Soviets 'let him escape'.

What do you not understand about Delta Force receiving orders to stand down when they had him cornered?

I'm afraid your problem isn't that your a skeptic, the problem is you're just not that bright.

Mod- sorry for the personal attack on the forum but this has become so ridiculous now it's the only explanation I can come up with and it had to be said.

Happyman42

Can I ask Alastair, Meglone and Diogenes if there is anything in the Final Report that they find suspect? And do they believe that the Commission carried out its remit fully?

pablo_escobar

Funny thing is, the commission said there was a coverup and yet alastair, Di0genes and meglome amongst other sceptics think they know better..

Who would you believe? a commission setup to investigate the incident or 3 dodgy "sceptics" who make judgements from the collective opinion of neo-con and zionist media organizations.

alastair

Happyman42 wrote: »

Can I ask Alastair, Meglone and Diogenes if there is anything in the Final Report that they find suspect? And do they believe that the Commission carried out its remit fully?

No, and yes - given the limitations to their brief.

alastair

pablo_escobar wrote: »

Funny thing is, the commission said there was a coverup and yet alastair, Di0genes and meglome amongst other sceptics think they know better..

Who would you believe? a commission setup to investigate the incident or 3 dodgy "sceptics" who make judgements from the collective opinion of neo-con and zionist media organizations.

Are silly soundbites your speciality, or just all you can muster?

Care to list the 'neo-con and zionist media organizations' (I'm assuming you don't mean to use the americanisation there - our are you a Mossad plant sent here to undermine the, as yet, handily undefined, conspiracy)?

princeofparma

WTC Facts:

• The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

• Each building had 110 stories.

• After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.

• September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

• 119 is the area code for Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11,911 - 119 are opposites - enemies?
  11 11 polarity.

• Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.

• The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.

• State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union.

• "New York City" has 11 letters.

• "Afghanistan" - 11 letters.

• "The Pentagon" - 11 letters.

• "Ramzi Yousef" - 11 letters (convicted of orchestrating the attack on the WTC in 1993).

• Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11.

• Flight 11 had 11 crew members onboard.

• Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11.

Flight 11, 93, 175, 77 - If these numbers are broken down, 11 actually remains the same in numerology, 93 becomes 12, 175 becomes 13 and 77 becomes 14. 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 Broken down again and you have
2 - 3 = 4 - 5. Add them all up and break them all down!
11 + 93 + 175 + 77 = 356 = 14 = 5
11 + 12 + 13 + 14 = 50 = 5
2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 14 = 5

Twin Towers =11 + Flight 11 + September, 11th = 33

In Freemasonry 33 is the highest degree there is. Remember on another page I taught you one must be careful in pointing the finger at an instigator? Well, I'll point the finger right now. Certain members of the U.S. Government and the U.S. Military knew the event was going to happen because they are the ones who planned it. They worked together with Osama bin Laden to bring this event to pass.

Flight 11 was a Boeing 767-200. It hit the North Tower at 8:45 AM EST. The length of the aircraft is 159 feet and 2 inches. 1 + 5 + 9 - 2 (planes?) = 13. The number 13 is used extensively within Freemasonry. The 33rd degree Masonic Temple is located just 13 blocks north of the White House. There are many other instances of the number thirteen within Masonry. The Pagan mind is obsessed with numbers and symbols.
Flight 175 was also a Boeing 767-200. This aircraft hit the South Tower. 1 + 7 + 5 = 13. The Twin Towers were hit with planes carrying the occult signatures of '11' and '13', the two most important numbers in the entire occult world. The number '11' symbolizes all that is evil and imperfect [The Old World Order] and the number '13' signifies rebellion against God's constituted authority!
It is interesting that the North Tower was hit first. In Masonic doctrine, North, is designated as the area where darkness, superstition, and ignorance dwells. Albert Pike describes this belief: "To all Masons, the North has immemorially been the place of darkness; of the great lights of the Lodge, none is in the North." [Morals and Dogma, p. 592]
The Elite Mason worships toward the East, because they are pagan Sun worshippers, hence the Eastern Star. Most other Masons do not even realize this. In their Lodges, the North is empty as a symbol of their belief about that direction. Why do Masons believe this way about the North? The Bible states that God sits on His throne in the north [Isaiah 14:13]. By striking the North Tower first, the Illuminist Masons guiding this world into the New World Order may have been symbolically striking at God and His system, the Old World Order!
If you tie these two understandings together, you should realize why the first aircraft designated '11' hit the North Tower first. North is the direction of God's throne.
We know who is behind the terrible tragedy simply by the occult Illuminist signature. Osama bin Laden was only carrying out part of the plan which originated from the Illuminati. If American, British, and Israeli Intelligence really wanted a man out of the way, they would get him no matter how rich or powerful or protected he might be. Osama bin Laden is alive today only because the Illuminati wants him to be alive.

The numbers 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, 33 , 39 have special meaning to the ELITE Freemasons. Remember, The Brotherhood of the Serpent was founded clear back in ancient Sumeria and the one who founded it was overthrown by those who were evil. With evil now in control it took this Brotherhood of the Serpent (Big Brother) and made several spin-offs of it. The Bilderberg Group is one, it has 39 members in its core who are broken into 3 groups of 13. And the 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. The 13 who make up the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine.
Did you know that the original number of states within the United States of America was 13? The Stripes on the American Flag represent this. The Constitution also has 7 articles and was signed by 39 members of the Constitutional Convention.
The Pagan assigns numbers to objects, planets, or an idea. One of history's greatest Satanist's, W. Wynn Wescott who was extremely influential in the latter part of the 19th Century explains:
"The followers of Pythagoras ... referred every object, planet, man, idea, and essence to some number or other, in a way which to most moderns must seem curious and mystical in the highest degree. 'The numerals of Pythagoras', says Porphyry, who lived about 300 A.D., 'were hieroglyphic symbols, by means whereof he explained all ideas concerning the nature of things', and the same [numeric] method of explaining the secrets of nature is once again being insisted upon in the new revelation of the 'Secret Doctrine', by H.P. Blavatsky. 'Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony -- in its broad sense, spiritually as well as physically considered, to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers begins with the Great First Cause, the One, and ends only with the nought or zero -- symbol of the infinite and boundless universe'." [The Occult Power of Numbers, W. Wynn Westcott, p. 15.]
The entire World Trade Center event was underlined with the occultic number 11. Occultists all over the world knew exactly what had happened and who did it.
Idols of past pagan societies have been formed in the likeness of fish, birds, animals, the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. The mathematics underlying science and science itself they also worship. Inherent power is what they believe numbers possess.
To understand this fact, you need to understand that the occultist literally fulfills Paul's explanation of a pagan, of a Satanist, in Romans 1:25, "... they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator ..."
There are events in the past which have the number 11 associated with them.
The Illuminati ended the First World War according to Albert Pike's occult plan to produce Antichrist. They deliberately ended it on the 11th hour, on the 11th day, on the 11th month. (11 x 3 = 33) The signing of the Armistice agreement was undergirded by three eleven's!
We have zeroed in on the number 11, because this tragedy is undergirded by this number.
Why is the number 11 important to the occultist? As Wescott explains, "... so 11 is the essence of all that is sinful, harmful, and imperfect." [Ibid., p. 100] Thus, while 11 is very important, multiplication's are also important, such as 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, and 99.
Let's examine representations of various eleven's woven into this terrible tragedy.

1. The first 11 is formed by the day on which this tragedy occurred, September 11.
2. The second 11 is formed by adding the 9th month, September, and the date, [9 + 1 + 1], forming another 11.
3. The third 11 is formed by the airplane number that first crashed into the World Trade Tower. That plane was American Airlines Flight #11.
4. The fourth 11 is formed by the airplane number that crashed into the Pentagon. That plane was United Airlines Flight #77 [11 x 7].
5. The fifth 11 is formed by the North Twin Tower of the World Trade Center was 110 stories tall [11 x 10]
6. The sixth 11 is formed by South Twin Tower, the World Trade Center was 110 stories tall [11 x 10]
7. The Architecture of the Twin Towers [ 11 ] of the World Trade Center -- Satanists love to express their beliefs and their goals in architecture. Thus, many of the buildings of Washington, D.C., were created originally with occult symbols on them, and in them. This fact is the reason why the street designs are created in such a way as to form Satanic symbols. The streets north of the White House form an inverted Pentagram, the Goatshead of Mendes, while the streets joining the White House to the Capitol form one side of a Masonic Compass, while other streets form the Masonic Square and Rule.
8. The eighth '11' is formed by one of the doomed flights, where the crew totaled '11'.
9. The ninth '11' is formed by the fact that September 11 is the 254th day of the year. When you add 2 + 5 + 4 you get '11'
10. The tenth '11' is formed because, after September 11, there are 111 days left in the year.
11. The eleventh '11' is formed by the historic fact that New York State was the 11th state to join the Union in preparation to create the 13-state confederation that would declare independence from England.

We have at least 11 firm and fundamental instances in which this tragedy was carried out "by the numbers" just as any Illuminist would want, because they believe a good plan can fail unless it is carried out according to the correct numbers sacred to the Satanist. The more numbers, the greater the chance of success. This very strong numeric signature on this attack clearly sends a signal to the rest of the occult world that this event was Illuminist, and that it signaled the beginning of a further series of events that will bring the world to the coveted Third World War that will produce Antichrist.
Freemasonry and the Illuminati go together like peanut butter and jelly. The Illuminati proudly display their New World Order logo, the pyramid with the All-Seeing-Eye on the reverse of the American one Dollar bill. This graphic shows evidence that the Illuminati are linked to Freemasonry. The graphic is a scan of a page from a Masonic bible. You can see the ink on the reverse of the page on the right-hand side which says "Holy B" or "Holy Bible". Notice the Illuminati symbol on the top of the page (the All-Seeing-Eye)?

In numerology, A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, D = 4, and so on. There are 33 sections are within the emblem of the United Nations. U (21) N (14) = (2+1=3) (1-4=3) 3 and 3 make 33 U. N. United Nations. 33 is the highest obtainable degree within Freemasonry.
"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a LUCIFERIAN Initiation." (David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations)

When the Illuminati assassinated President Kennedy, he was killed according to the occult number signature of eleven [11]. He was killed in the 11th month, on the 22nd day, and on the 33rd parallel. He was also killed in the Masonic Dealey Plaza, the most powerful secret society in the world today to whom the number 11 is extremely important.

The Master Number

As before mentioned, the number 11 has special significance. In Numerology it is not reduced to a single digit. It is a power number as is 22, 33 etc. The number 11 represents the vision. The number 22 combines vision with action. The number 33 offers guidance to the world. The master numbers 11, 22, and 33 represent a triangle. A triangle of enlightenment or illumination.

33
11 22

July 6, 1946 was George Bush's birthday. It can be reduced to the power number 33:
7/6/1946 => 7 + 6 = 13, 1946 => 1 + 9 + 4 + 6 = 20. 20 + 13 = 33 .. .. 11 + 22. George is a member of Skull and Bones (a spin-off of the Brotherhood) just like his father and grandfather. Seems old Dubya is a master in more ways than just President of United States. There is more to George's name then meets the eye as you will soon find out. First let's look at what else the occult has to say about its 'master number'.

• 11 is a "master number or "power number" as most numerologists will testify. It is a number which cannot be reduced by adding the two digits. 11 is associated with someone who is on a higher plane of existence. Someone who brings "mystical revelation". Someone who often feels slightly distant from the people surrounding him or her, and has trouble feeling any real empathy for them. Also, this is sometimes the number of the matyr.

• The blue cord of the mason masters is large of 11 cm.

• The Hebrews concider it to be a bad number.

• The Number of the knowledge of God is 11. According to Arabs, this one passing by 11 steps.

• In the Golden Dawn, There are also 11 steps, or degrees,. Aleister Crowley revered this number as well when he said that the whole object of magick was the 5 (black, yin, pentagonal) with 6 (white, yang, hexagonal) – thus making 11!

• The general number of magic or sorcery and magicians. The individual in confrontation with the world. The number of war and the battle with the demonic element (The images of the destruction played over and over again could certainly be considered mind-control-sorcery).

• The symbol of Martyrdom.

• Symbol of the interior flight, the rebellion and the mislaying which results from it.

• The trangression of the law is represented by 11 because of it exceeding the number ten by 1. That is the one of the Decalogue. According to Saint Augustin, it represents the sin. The punishment of the wicked is asked in Psalm 11 (Vulgate numbering). This symbolism is confirmed by theoretical speculations. If you added all numbers from 1 to 11 they will equal 66. And by multiplying 11 by 6 (the number of evil) you get 66. If you added the two digits together it is reminiscent of the Roman number II (number of both the division and corruption).

• 11 is the number expressing more than human sin in general or cosmic. According to R. Allendy.

To to the Jews the number 11 is bad. The number of trangression of the law, rebellion, war, sin, sorcery, martyrdom; all of which were displayed to the whole world on 9/11.
The Pythagorian Table is numbered 1 to 9 each place having certain letters of the alphabet associated with them. The Chaldean Table works in a simialar way except it is numbered 1 to 8 and the letters associated with each number are differ as well. You will find that there are many connections to the number 11 in birthdates, names and places and these charts. Numerologists use these two methods for calculation with the Chaldean table being the oldest and most accurate.

PYTHAGOREAN CONVERSION TABLE
1
A
J
S
2
B
K
T
3
C
L
U
4
D
M
V
5
E
N
W6
F
O
X7
G
P
Y8
H
Q
Z
9
I
R
CHALDEAN CONVERSION TABLE
1
A
I
J
Q
Y
2
B
K
R
3
C
G
L
S
4
D
M
T
5
E
H
N
X
6
U
V
W
7
O
Z
8
F
PThere is no number 9 in this Numerology chart because, to the ancient Chaldeans, 9 was believed to be a sacred number and was kept apart from the rest.

Numerologists use the above charts to calculate the number of names and birthdates. Below are two examples:
The Pythagorean Method
S
1+
+E
5+
+P
7+
+T
2+
+E
5+
+M
4+
+B
2+
+E
5+
+R
9= 40 => 4 + 0 = 4
The Chaldean Method
S
3+
+E
5+
+P
8+
+T
4+
+E
5+
+M
4+
+B
2+
+E
5+
+R
2= 38 => 3 + 8 = 11
Using the Chaldean method "September" adds up to another 11. These two charts are used by the Illuminati. The Chaldean was probably used in the days of the Tower of Babel by Babylonian priests.
Take all the letters in "George W Bush" and add them up:
G + E + O + R + G + E (3 + 5 + 7 + 2 + 3 + 5) = 25W ( 6 ) 6B + U + S + H ( 2 + 6 + 3 + 5 ) = 16Sum

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> 47 ( 4 + 7 = 11)
Surprised? no? Here's more: Flight 11 was the first to enter "New York City" (11 letters). There were 92 (9 + 2 = 11) souls on board, including the 11 crew members, when it slammed into the North Tower:
N + O + R + T + H 5 + 7 + 2 + 4 + 5 = 23 + => 47 T + O + W + E + R 4 + 7 = 11! 4 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 2 = 24Flight 175 had 65 (6 + 5 = 11) on board, it struck the South Tower; each tower having 110 stories. Flight 77 (11 x 7) crashed into the Pentagon:
F + L + I + G + H + T 8 + 3 + 1 + 3 + 5 + 4 = 24 + 77 => 7 + 7 = 14 => 38 => 3 + 8 = 11
P + E + N + T + A + G + O + N 8 + 5 + 5 + 4 + 1 + 3 + 7 + 5 => 38 => 3 + 8 = 11
For thousands of years the global elite (members of the Brotherhood) have communicated via symbology. Just like all the events listed on the "Table of Coincidence" which coincide with the astronomical alignments of 19.5 and 33 degrees the September 11th event was planned as well

There are many reasons for the attack, one is to bring America into war and another is to further the destruction of the economy. As days pass we are getting closer and closer to Anti-Christ. It can be stopped. If YOU want it to.

Hand symbol for the Horned God. (Satanic)

Both Bill and George are confirmed Freemasons

When America goes to war it will be fighting a war which was planned along time ago. One sure way to stop their plan is to show Military personnel who the true enemy is. Then Military people wouldn't carry out their plan. All they do is make people suffer and fight wars in the name of their God, Satan.
Prophecy is nothing more then a collection of future events which are agreed upon by men.

George W. Bush's birthday equals the master number 33, and it was Bush whose name equals the master number 11 who ordered all flags be flown at half-mast until September 22! Sept. 22 is 11 days after the event. It completed the triangle 11, 22, 33.
The number 9 is left out because it is sacred to the Illuminati. 5/5/1776 is when the Illuminati was founded. 5 + 1 + 1 + 7 + 7 + 6 => 27 = 2 + 7 = 9.

kildare18

whats the current opinion on 9\11

alastair

demonspawn wrote: »

What do you not understand about Delta Force receiving orders to stand down when they had him cornered?

I'm afraid your problem isn't that your a skeptic, the problem is you're just not that bright.

Mod- sorry for the personal attack on the forum but this has become so ridiculous now it's the only explanation I can come up with and it had to be said.

Now - they didn't get orders to stand down - they were told to try a different strategy - and to quote the delightfully monikered Mr Fury - they subsequently thought that they had killed him with a bombing campaign - doesn't sound much like 'letting him go' to me.

amacachi

Looks like young Eric has found this forum.

My name is URL

princeofparma wrote: »

WTC Facts:

• The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

• Each building had 110 stories.

• After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.

• September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

• 119 is the area code for Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11,911 - 119 are opposites - enemies?
  11 11 polarity.

• Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.

• The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.

• State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union.

• "New York City" has 11 letters.

• "Afghanistan" - 11 letters.

• "The Pentagon" - 11 letters.

• "Ramzi Yousef" - 11 letters (convicted of orchestrating the attack on the WTC in 1993).

• Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11.

• Flight 11 had 11 crew members onboard.

• Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11

If the attack happened on a different date people would still come up with numerological connections and hold it up as evidence. What sort of evil mastermind would have been able to do the math in this stuff prior to when it happened?!

alastair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LZ4j4598ws

princeofparma

My name is URL wrote: »

If the attack happened on a different date people would still come up with numerological connections and hold it up as evidence.

You didn't read my post.

It's the freemasons who are behind the 9/11 attacks.

Freemasons who use the twin pillars of Boaz and Jachin

alastair

demonspawn

Wanna see the real "11"? Complete with an inverted Star of David. They are the equivalent to Satanists in Christianity. Oh, and don't forget 911 is the emergency number in the U.S.

Happyman42

princeofparma wrote: »

WTC Facts:

• The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11.

• Each building had 110 stories.

• After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.

• September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11.

• 119 is the area code for Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11,911 - 119 are opposites - enemies?
  11 11 polarity.

• Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11.

• The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11.

• State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union.

• "New York City" has 11 letters.

• "Afghanistan" - 11 letters.

• "The Pentagon" - 11 letters.

• "Ramzi Yousef" - 11 letters (convicted of orchestrating the attack on the WTC in 1993).

• Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11.

• Flight 11 had 11 crew members onboard.

• Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11.

Flight 11, 93, 175, 77 - If these numbers are broken down, 11 actually remains the same in numerology, 93 becomes 12, 175 becomes 13 and 77 becomes 14. 11 - 12 - 13 - 14 Broken down again and you have
2 - 3 = 4 - 5. Add them all up and break them all down!
11 + 93 + 175 + 77 = 356 = 14 = 5
11 + 12 + 13 + 14 = 50 = 5
2 + 3 + 4 + 5 = 14 = 5

Twin Towers =11 + Flight 11 + September, 11th = 33

In Freemasonry 33 is the highest degree there is. Remember on another page I taught you one must be careful in pointing the finger at an instigator? Well, I'll point the finger right now. Certain members of the U.S. Government and the U.S. Military knew the event was going to happen because they are the ones who planned it. They worked together with Osama bin Laden to bring this event to pass.

Flight 11 was a Boeing 767-200. It hit the North Tower at 8:45 AM EST. The length of the aircraft is 159 feet and 2 inches. 1 + 5 + 9 - 2 (planes?) = 13. The number 13 is used extensively within Freemasonry. The 33rd degree Masonic Temple is located just 13 blocks north of the White House. There are many other instances of the number thirteen within Masonry. The Pagan mind is obsessed with numbers and symbols.
Flight 175 was also a Boeing 767-200. This aircraft hit the South Tower. 1 + 7 + 5 = 13. The Twin Towers were hit with planes carrying the occult signatures of '11' and '13', the two most important numbers in the entire occult world. The number '11' symbolizes all that is evil and imperfect [The Old World Order] and the number '13' signifies rebellion against God's constituted authority!
It is interesting that the North Tower was hit first. In Masonic doctrine, North, is designated as the area where darkness, superstition, and ignorance dwells. Albert Pike describes this belief: "To all Masons, the North has immemorially been the place of darkness; of the great lights of the Lodge, none is in the North." [Morals and Dogma, p. 592]
The Elite Mason worships toward the East, because they are pagan Sun worshippers, hence the Eastern Star. Most other Masons do not even realize this. In their Lodges, the North is empty as a symbol of their belief about that direction. Why do Masons believe this way about the North? The Bible states that God sits on His throne in the north [Isaiah 14:13]. By striking the North Tower first, the Illuminist Masons guiding this world into the New World Order may have been symbolically striking at God and His system, the Old World Order!
If you tie these two understandings together, you should realize why the first aircraft designated '11' hit the North Tower first. North is the direction of God's throne.
We know who is behind the terrible tragedy simply by the occult Illuminist signature. Osama bin Laden was only carrying out part of the plan which originated from the Illuminati. If American, British, and Israeli Intelligence really wanted a man out of the way, they would get him no matter how rich or powerful or protected he might be. Osama bin Laden is alive today only because the Illuminati wants him to be alive.

The numbers 3, 7, 9, 11, 13, 33 , 39 have special meaning to the ELITE Freemasons. Remember, The Brotherhood of the Serpent was founded clear back in ancient Sumeria and the one who founded it was overthrown by those who were evil. With evil now in control it took this Brotherhood of the Serpent (Big Brother) and made several spin-offs of it. The Bilderberg Group is one, it has 39 members in its core who are broken into 3 groups of 13. And the 39 answers to the 13 who make up the Policy Committee. The 13 who make up the Policy Committee answer to the Round Table of Nine.
Did you know that the original number of states within the United States of America was 13? The Stripes on the American Flag represent this. The Constitution also has 7 articles and was signed by 39 members of the Constitutional Convention.
The Pagan assigns numbers to objects, planets, or an idea. One of history's greatest Satanist's, W. Wynn Wescott who was extremely influential in the latter part of the 19th Century explains:
"The followers of Pythagoras ... referred every object, planet, man, idea, and essence to some number or other, in a way which to most moderns must seem curious and mystical in the highest degree. 'The numerals of Pythagoras', says Porphyry, who lived about 300 A.D., 'were hieroglyphic symbols, by means whereof he explained all ideas concerning the nature of things', and the same [numeric] method of explaining the secrets of nature is once again being insisted upon in the new revelation of the 'Secret Doctrine', by H.P. Blavatsky. 'Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony -- in its broad sense, spiritually as well as physically considered, to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers begins with the Great First Cause, the One, and ends only with the nought or zero -- symbol of the infinite and boundless universe'." [The Occult Power of Numbers, W. Wynn Westcott, p. 15.]
The entire World Trade Center event was underlined with the occultic number 11. Occultists all over the world knew exactly what had happened and who did it.
Idols of past pagan societies have been formed in the likeness of fish, birds, animals, the Sun, the Moon and the Stars. The mathematics underlying science and science itself they also worship. Inherent power is what they believe numbers possess.
To understand this fact, you need to understand that the occultist literally fulfills Paul's explanation of a pagan, of a Satanist, in Romans 1:25, "... they exchanged the truth of God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator ..."
There are events in the past which have the number 11 associated with them.
The Illuminati ended the First World War according to Albert Pike's occult plan to produce Antichrist. They deliberately ended it on the 11th hour, on the 11th day, on the 11th month. (11 x 3 = 33) The signing of the Armistice agreement was undergirded by three eleven's!
We have zeroed in on the number 11, because this tragedy is undergirded by this number.
Why is the number 11 important to the occultist? As Wescott explains, "... so 11 is the essence of all that is sinful, harmful, and imperfect." [Ibid., p. 100] Thus, while 11 is very important, multiplication's are also important, such as 22, 33, 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, and 99.
Let's examine representations of various eleven's woven into this terrible tragedy.

1. The first 11 is formed by the day on which this tragedy occurred, September 11.
2. The second 11 is formed by adding the 9th month, September, and the date, [9 + 1 + 1], forming another 11.
3. The third 11 is formed by the airplane number that first crashed into the World Trade Tower. That plane was American Airlines Flight #11.
4. The fourth 11 is formed by the airplane number that crashed into the Pentagon. That plane was United Airlines Flight #77 [11 x 7].
5. The fifth 11 is formed by the North Twin Tower of the World Trade Center was 110 stories tall [11 x 10]
6. The sixth 11 is formed by South Twin Tower, the World Trade Center was 110 stories tall [11 x 10]
7. The Architecture of the Twin Towers [ 11 ] of the World Trade Center -- Satanists love to express their beliefs and their goals in architecture. Thus, many of the buildings of Washington, D.C., were created originally with occult symbols on them, and in them. This fact is the reason why the street designs are created in such a way as to form Satanic symbols. The streets north of the White House form an inverted Pentagram, the Goatshead of Mendes, while the streets joining the White House to the Capitol form one side of a Masonic Compass, while other streets form the Masonic Square and Rule.
8. The eighth '11' is formed by one of the doomed flights, where the crew totaled '11'.
9. The ninth '11' is formed by the fact that September 11 is the 254th day of the year. When you add 2 + 5 + 4 you get '11'
10. The tenth '11' is formed because, after September 11, there are 111 days left in the year.
11. The eleventh '11' is formed by the historic fact that New York State was the 11th state to join the Union in preparation to create the 13-state confederation that would declare independence from England.

We have at least 11 firm and fundamental instances in which this tragedy was carried out "by the numbers" just as any Illuminist would want, because they believe a good plan can fail unless it is carried out according to the correct numbers sacred to the Satanist. The more numbers, the greater the chance of success. This very strong numeric signature on this attack clearly sends a signal to the rest of the occult world that this event was Illuminist, and that it signaled the beginning of a further series of events that will bring the world to the coveted Third World War that will produce Antichrist.
Freemasonry and the Illuminati go together like peanut butter and jelly. The Illuminati proudly display their New World Order logo, the pyramid with the All-Seeing-Eye on the reverse of the American one Dollar bill. This graphic shows evidence that the Illuminati are linked to Freemasonry. The graphic is a scan of a page from a Masonic bible. You can see the ink on the reverse of the page on the right-hand side which says "Holy B" or "Holy Bible". Notice the Illuminati symbol on the top of the page (the All-Seeing-Eye)?

In numerology, A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, D = 4, and so on. There are 33 sections are within the emblem of the United Nations. U (21) N (14) = (2+1=3) (1-4=3) 3 and 3 make 33 U. N. United Nations. 33 is the highest obtainable degree within Freemasonry.
"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a LUCIFERIAN Initiation." (David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations)

When the Illuminati assassinated President Kennedy, he was killed according to the occult number signature of eleven [11]. He was killed in the 11th month, on the 22nd day, and on the 33rd parallel. He was also killed in the Masonic Dealey Plaza, the most powerful secret society in the world today to whom the number 11 is extremely important.

The Master Number

As before mentioned, the number 11 has special significance. In Numerology it is not reduced to a single digit. It is a power number as is 22, 33 etc. The number 11 represents the vision. The number 22 combines vision with action. The number 33 offers guidance to the world. The master numbers 11, 22, and 33 represent a triangle. A triangle of enlightenment or illumination.

33
11 22

July 6, 1946 was George Bush's birthday. It can be reduced to the power number 33:
7/6/1946 => 7 + 6 = 13, 1946 => 1 + 9 + 4 + 6 = 20. 20 + 13 = 33 .. .. 11 + 22. George is a member of Skull and Bones (a spin-off of the Brotherhood) just like his father and grandfather. Seems old Dubya is a master in more ways than just President of United States. There is more to George's name then meets the eye as you will soon find out. First let's look at what else the occult has to say about its 'master number'.

• 11 is a "master number or "power number" as most numerologists will testify. It is a number which cannot be reduced by adding the two digits. 11 is associated with someone who is on a higher plane of existence. Someone who brings "mystical revelation". Someone who often feels slightly distant from the people surrounding him or her, and has trouble feeling any real empathy for them. Also, this is sometimes the number of the matyr.

• The blue cord of the mason masters is large of 11 cm.

• The Hebrews concider it to be a bad number.

• The Number of the knowledge of God is 11. According to Arabs, this one passing by 11 steps.

• In the Golden Dawn, There are also 11 steps, or degrees,. Aleister Crowley revered this number as well when he said that the whole object of magick was the 5 (black, yin, pentagonal) with 6 (white, yang, hexagonal) – thus making 11!

• The general number of magic or sorcery and magicians. The individual in confrontation with the world. The number of war and the battle with the demonic element (The images of the destruction played over and over again could certainly be considered mind-control-sorcery).

• The symbol of Martyrdom.

• Symbol of the interior flight, the rebellion and the mislaying which results from it.

• The trangression of the law is represented by 11 because of it exceeding the number ten by 1. That is the one of the Decalogue. According to Saint Augustin, it represents the sin. The punishment of the wicked is asked in Psalm 11 (Vulgate numbering). This symbolism is confirmed by theoretical speculations. If you added all numbers from 1 to 11 they will equal 66. And by multiplying 11 by 6 (the number of evil) you get 66. If you added the two digits together it is reminiscent of the Roman number II (number of both the division and corruption).

• 11 is the number expressing more than human sin in general or cosmic. According to R. Allendy.

To to the Jews the number 11 is bad. The number of trangression of the law, rebellion, war, sin, sorcery, martyrdom; all of which were displayed to the whole world on 9/11.
The Pythagorian Table is numbered 1 to 9 each place having certain letters of the alphabet associated with them. The Chaldean Table works in a simialar way except it is numbered 1 to 8 and the letters associated with each number are differ as well. You will find that there are many connections to the number 11 in birthdates, names and places and these charts. Numerologists use these two methods for calculation with the Chaldean table being the oldest and most accurate.

PYTHAGOREAN CONVERSION TABLE
1
A
J
S
2
B
K
T
3
C
L
U
4
D
M
V
5
E
N
W6
F
O
X7
G
P
Y8
H
Q
Z
9
I
R
CHALDEAN CONVERSION TABLE
1
A
I
J
Q
Y
2
B
K
R
3
C
G
L
S
4
D
M
T
5
E
H
N
X
6
U
V
W
7
O
Z
8
F
PThere is no number 9 in this Numerology chart because, to the ancient Chaldeans, 9 was believed to be a sacred number and was kept apart from the rest.

Numerologists use the above charts to calculate the number of names and birthdates. Below are two examples:
The Pythagorean Method
S
1+
+E
5+
+P
7+
+T
2+
+E
5+
+M
4+
+B
2+
+E
5+
+R
9= 40 => 4 + 0 = 4
The Chaldean Method
S
3+
+E
5+
+P
8+
+T
4+
+E
5+
+M
4+
+B
2+
+E
5+
+R
2= 38 => 3 + 8 = 11
Using the Chaldean method "September" adds up to another 11. These two charts are used by the Illuminati. The Chaldean was probably used in the days of the Tower of Babel by Babylonian priests.
Take all the letters in "George W Bush" and add them up:
G + E + O + R + G + E (3 + 5 + 7 + 2 + 3 + 5) = 25W ( 6 ) 6B + U + S + H ( 2 + 6 + 3 + 5 ) = 16Sum

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> 47 ( 4 + 7 = 11)
Surprised? no? Here's more: Flight 11 was the first to enter "New York City" (11 letters). There were 92 (9 + 2 = 11) souls on board, including the 11 crew members, when it slammed into the North Tower:
N + O + R + T + H 5 + 7 + 2 + 4 + 5 = 23 + => 47 T + O + W + E + R 4 + 7 = 11! 4 + 7 + 6 + 5 + 2 = 24Flight 175 had 65 (6 + 5 = 11) on board, it struck the South Tower; each tower having 110 stories. Flight 77 (11 x 7) crashed into the Pentagon:
F + L + I + G + H + T 8 + 3 + 1 + 3 + 5 + 4 = 24 + 77 => 7 + 7 = 14 => 38 => 3 + 8 = 11
P + E + N + T + A + G + O + N 8 + 5 + 5 + 4 + 1 + 3 + 7 + 5 => 38 => 3 + 8 = 11
For thousands of years the global elite (members of the Brotherhood) have communicated via symbology. Just like all the events listed on the "Table of Coincidence" which coincide with the astronomical alignments of 19.5 and 33 degrees the September 11th event was planned as well

There are many reasons for the attack, one is to bring America into war and another is to further the destruction of the economy. As days pass we are getting closer and closer to Anti-Christ. It can be stopped. If YOU want it to.

Hand symbol for the Horned God. (Satanic)

Both Bill and George are confirmed Freemasons

When America goes to war it will be fighting a war which was planned along time ago. One sure way to stop their plan is to show Military personnel who the true enemy is. Then Military people wouldn't carry out their plan. All they do is make people suffer and fight wars in the name of their God, Satan.
Prophecy is nothing more then a collection of future events which are agreed upon by men.

George W. Bush's birthday equals the master number 33, and it was Bush whose name equals the master number 11 who ordered all flags be flown at half-mast until September 22! Sept. 22 is 11 days after the event. It completed the triangle 11, 22, 33.
The number 9 is left out because it is sacred to the Illuminati. 5/5/1776 is when the Illuminati was founded. 5 + 1 + 1 + 7 + 7 + 6 => 27 = 2 + 7 = 9.

Can I have those 11 minutes back please? 9 of them even? (Oh look what happened there!)