Who the hell is Barry Jennings?

demonspawn

Nearly one year ago, on August 19, 2008, 53 year old Barry Jennings died, two days before the release of the NIST Final Report on the collapse of WTC7. Jennings was Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority. On September 11th, 2001, he saw and heard explosions BEFORE the Twin Towers fell, while attempting to evacuate the WTC 7 Command Center with NYC Corporation Counsel Michael Hess.

http://barryjenningsmystery.blogspot.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LO5V2CJpzI

Notice the secret serviceman running around at 0:50 of the following video. What was he doing there and why is he so prepared for all the dust with that head covering? Did he know what was about to happen?

Next Saturday is the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

http://barryjenningsmystery.blogspot.com/

Jennings was interviewed by the BBC conspiracy files documentary and claims he was misquoted in the original loose change and refused to be interviewed for the litany of do overs Avery churned out.

Explosions in buildings that just had planes flown into them? Extraordinary....

Notice the secret serviceman running around at 0:50 of the following video. What was he doing there and why is he so prepared for all the dust with that head covering? Did he know what was about to happen?

Firstly how do you know he was secret service?

Next Saturday is the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

9 years and there isn't a coherent or plausible alternative theory...

demonspawn

Di0genes wrote: »

Jennings was interviewed by the BBC conspiracy files documentary and claims he was misquoted in the original loose change and refused to be interviewed for the litany of do overs Avery churned out.

Explosions in buildings that just had planes flown into them? Extraordinary....

Did I mention his family has disappeared? Nobody has been able to track them down since his death.
Oh, and how can you misquote someone on a video interview? Are you suggesting they doctored the audio track to make him sound like he's saying he stepped over dead bodies? Perhaps he was threatened after his first interviews, it would make sense why he's dead now.

Firstly how do you know he was secret service?

Oh, you actually missed the SECRET SERVICE plastered across his tac vest? Here's a hint, it's above POLICE. :rolleyes: You're not very observant, maybe that's why you fail to see these conspiracies?

9 years and there isn't a coherent or plausible alternative theory...

There are plenty, you just refuse to accept them. There's a difference.

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

Did I mention his family has disappeared? Nobody has been able to track them down since his death.

Source?

Oh, you actually missed the SECRET SERVICE plastered across his tac vest? Here's a hint, it's above POLICE. :rolleyes: You're not very observant, maybe that's why you fail to see these conspiracies?

No I just didn't waste my time watching the same old videos again. But seeing as the Secret Service headquarters was in the WTC complex I don't see it as strange there was a secret service agent there on the day.

There are plenty, you just refuse to accept them. There's a difference.

Okay, perhaps you could explain what particular theory you subscribe to?

demonspawn

Di0genes wrote: »

Source?

Google "Barry Jennings family interview". Find me one interview, just one.

No I just didn't waste my time watching the same old videos again. But seeing as the Secret Service headquarters was in the WTC complex I don't see it as strange there was a secret service agent there on the day.

Well maybe that's your problem, you don't even review evidence. That's not a great position to take when trying to debunk conspiracies. At least try to educate yourself on a subject before trying to convince others they are wrong.

Okay, perhaps you could explain what particular theory you subscribe to?

What would be the point of that? I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just sharing information. It's obvious that you know so little about this subject that I would be wasting my time telling you what I believe happened.

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

Google "Barry Jennings family interview". Find me one interview, just one.

No you made the claim the onus is on you to support your claim. Announcing his family have disappeared and then demanding I scurry around google trying to prove you wrong.

Well maybe that's your problem, you don't even review evidence.

I do. I just don't watch endless youtube nonsense. What on earth was your point re the presence of the Secret Service agent anyway?

That's not a great position to take when trying to debunk conspiracies. At least try to educate yourself on a subject before trying to convince others they are wrong.

Most posting history will show you I'm more the familiar with ins and outs of 911 conspiraloonery.

What would be the point of that? I'm not trying to convince anyone, I'm just sharing information. It's obvious that you know so little about this subject that I would be wasting my time telling you what I believe happened.

Thank you for proving my point. No conspiracy theorist can put together a coherent and plausible alternative theory as to what they think happened.

demonspawn

You know what DioGenes, I really don't like your posting style. You're overly hostile and argumentative with no real argument to make. As such, I'm going to choose to ignore your posts.

Edit: Seems when you put someone on your ignore list their posts are hidden! Brilliant!

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote:

You know what DioGenes, I really don't like your posting style. You're overly hostile and argumentative with no real argument to make. As such, I'm going to choose to ignore your posts.

Ahem

you're not very observant

t's obvious that you know so little about this subject that I would be wasting my time telling you what I believe happened.

At least try to educate yourself on a subject before trying to convince others they are wrong.

Glass houses there demonspawn, glass houses.

amacachi

My family must've disappeared because typing my name followed by "family interview" brings back no matches. Oh it's going to be lonely here when I wake up tomorrow.

demonspawn

amacachi wrote: »

My family must've disappeared because typing my name followed by "family interview" brings back no matches. Oh it's going to be lonely here when I wake up tomorrow.

Ah right, I wasn't aware you were a key witness to the 9/11 attacks that died 2 days before the official report was released. :rolleyes:

demonspawn

Debunkers, do me a favor and Google "Barry Jennings", "Barry Jennings obituary", "Barry Jennings autopsy report", anything to do with Barry Jennings and link me a mainstream news article or police report about this man. Anything whatsoever that is not on a CT forum or blog.

Hell, find me a wiki article on this guy. He was Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority, so where's this info? He certainly wasn't some random nobody.

I won't hold my breath.

amacachi

demonspawn wrote: »

Debunkers, do me a favor and Google "Barry Jennings", "Barry Jennings obituary", "Barry Jennings autopsy report", anything to do with Barry Jennings and link me a mainstream news article or police report about this man. Anything whatsoever that is not on a CT forum or blog.

Hell, find me a wiki article on this guy. He was Deputy Director of Emergency Services Department for the New York City Housing Authority, so where's this info? He certainly wasn't some random nobody.

I won't hold my breath.

Dude, seriously, you think that position means anything more than a bump in pay scale?

demonspawn

amacachi wrote: »

Dude, seriously, you think that position means anything more than a bump in pay scale?

Oh, I guess you weren't able to find a single thing. I wonder why that is?

amacachi

demonspawn wrote: »

Oh, I guess you weren't able to find a single thing. I wonder why that is?

What exactly is it you're claiming, that he isn't dead and his family and he have run off? Or that he was executed? Why the need for an obituary, to prove he died? If so will that be evidence that he was murdered? Or is it just being put around that he's dead and he actually isn't and the lack of an obituary is proof of that? If so, that's some sloppy work by the secret service guys.
Just so I know what to post next.

demonspawn

amacachi wrote: »

What exactly is it you're claiming, that he isn't dead and his family and he have run off? Or that he was executed? Why the need for an obituary, to prove he died? If so will that be evidence that he was murdered? Or is it just being put around that he's dead and he actually isn't and the lack of an obituary is proof of that? If so, that's some sloppy work by the secret service guys.
Just so I know what to post next.

Figure it out for yourself. I posted this for other CTers, not for debunkers.

amacachi

demonspawn wrote: »

Figure it out for yourself. I posted this for other CTers, not for debunkers.

I'm genuinely interested as to what the CT is here, is it his death or lack thereof or is it the stuff to do with his interviews?


http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4046309&postcount=40

Well there's one guy who says he phoned the housing authority who confirmed he was dead, alas it's a little be late to be trying that number.

Here's a column from the NYCHA employee's bulletin; http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/downloads/pdf/emp_bulletin_oct_2008.pdf first inside page, ironically linked from a CT page.

demonspawn

amacachi wrote: »

I'm genuinely interested as to what the CT is here, is it his death or lack thereof or is it the stuff to do with his interviews?


http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4046309&postcount=40

Well there's one guy who says he phoned the housing authority who confirmed he was dead, alas it's a little be late to be trying that number.

Here's a column from the NYCHA employee's bulletin; http://www.nyc.gov/html/nycha/downloads/pdf/emp_bulletin_oct_2008.pdf first inside page, ironically linked from a CT page.

Well all I can say to you is keep asking these questions, go and try to find the answers, and you'll know what this CT is all about. I'm sure you have a pretty good idea already though.

Don't ask me questions, I'm just some stupid CTer. I could just tell you complete lies for all you know. Go find out the answers for yourself. The truth is out there.

Edit: Oh, just one thing. You don't find it odd that the newspaper thing from the place Barry Jennings worked took two months to report his death? Barry Jennings died in August, the only existing public record of his death was printed in October. That's pretty poor for a man who was considered a national hero.

demonspawn

Jennings will describe that, when he arrives at the emergency command center, “To my amazement, nobody’s there.” He says: “I saw coffee that was still hot, that was still smoldering. They had screens all over the place, but the screens were blank. So I didn’t know what was going on.” He then phones several individuals, including one of his superiors. When Jennings says where he is, the superior responds: “Get out of there. Get out of there now.” Hess then runs back into the center, after having found the stairwell, and says: “We’re the only ones up here. We gotta get out of here.”

Yet, according to the 9/11 Commission, “After the South Tower was hit [at 9:03], OEM senior leadership decided to remain in its ‘bunker’ and continue conducting operations, even though all civilians had been evacuated from 7 WTC.” The Commission will claim the emergency command center is not evacuated until 9:30 a.m. (see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001).But according to the London Independent, Hess and Jennings arrive there by the time the South Tower is hit, which suggests the center is evacuated earlier than officially claimed. [Independent, 9/13/2001]

Click on the Independent link on the following site, the article has been removed.

http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=michael_hess_1

demonspawn

Is it just me or are 12 "guests" following me around the forum? Every time I change from politics to CT, 12 "guests" suddenly appear. Meh, maybe I'm just being paranoid.

*looks behind him and finds a wall*

Phew!!

You guys crack me up, it's only a matter of time now.

amacachi

It's an employee bulletin, not a newspaper, and guessing from the dates and numbers on the cover it's out every two months, so it would've been the first issue after his death.
I just did a quick google for the last 4 or 5 of my relatives who died and can't find any obituraries published for them even though I know they were in newspapers. Funeral notifications don't seem to appear either for him, which I can understand after his being harassed at work by "truthers".

Mahatma coat

Explosions in buildings that just had planes flown into them? Extraordinary....

No Plane hit the Building that Jennings was in:rolleyes:

and at the point in time he Describes ALL Towers still Stood;)

So what instigated these Extraordinary Explosions???????

Di0genes

Mahatma coat wrote: »

No Plane hit the Building that Jennings was in:rolleyes:

NO!!!!!! WOW!!!!! LIKE I TOTALLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT!

Lets look at what he said

he saw and heard explosions BEFORE the Twin Towers

He doesn't say he heard or saw explosions in the WTC 7 before the towers collapsed.

So what instigated these Extraordinary Explosions???????

The planes hitting the towers obviously.

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

That's pretty poor for a man who was considered a national hero.

Who considered Jennings a national hero? Where was this noted?

Is it just me or are 12 "guests" following me around the forum? Every time I change from politics to CT, 12 "guests" suddenly appear. Meh, maybe I'm just being paranoid.

Paranoid and egotistical. The NWO needs 12 agents to track your internet posting?

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

Did I mention his family has disappeared? Nobody has been able to track them down since his death.

Possibly because they were inundated with interviews from CTers wanting to know how their loved one died when it was none of their business.

demonspawn wrote: »

There are plenty, you just refuse to accept them. There's a difference.

The reason these theories lack credibility is because they are theories, plural. There are plenty of people who swear by each one yet no common research into one plausible alternative. Perhaps if these groups joined forced and came up with one well researched idea it would help the cause?

fontanalis

demonspawn wrote: »

You know what DioGenes, I really don't like your posting style. You're overly hostile and argumentative with no real argument to make. As such, I'm going to choose to ignore your posts.

Edit: Seems when you put someone on your ignore list their posts are hidden! Brilliant!

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Diogenes just called you on false facts.

demonspawn

fontanalis wrote: »

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Diogenes just called you on false facts.

This is not an extraordinary claim. Barry Jennings was a well known man. He is attributed to saving the life of Michael Hess, a long-time friend of Rudy Giuliani. So where are his tributes? Where is his story printed in a national newspaper? Why is there a complete media blackout? Why was his autopsy report kept secret? For all intents and purposes, this man could very well have never existed.

He was a key witness to the 9/11 attacks. He was never asked to give evidence by the investigative body responsible for the bogus official reports. Where is his story? Why are CTers the only ones interested in it?

Debunkers can debunk all you like, you just can't explain what happened to Barry Jennings. Nobody can.

Di0genes

demonspawn wrote: »

This is not an extraordinary claim. Barry Jennings was a well known man. He is attributed to saving the life of Michael Hess, a long-time friend of Rudy Giuliani. So where are his tributes?

Not to be little this, but basically you're saying that he saved the life of someone who was friends with also ran in the 2008 presidential elections. And you think his death from natural causes, would be a national news story?

Why was his autopsy report kept secret?

Sigh. Autopsy reports aren't usually put out in the public domain.

For all intents and purposes, this man could very well have never existed.

You mean aside from the fact he was known to hundreds of co workers, had a family raised children, gave several press interviews about what happened to him on 911.

And you think "for all intents an purposes" he didn't exist?

He was a key witness to the 9/11 attacks.

How was he key?

He was never asked to give evidence by the investigative body responsible for the bogus official reports. Where is his story? Why are CTers the only ones interested in it?

Because you're clutching at straws, Jennings never said anything that disputed the 911 commission or the NIST report. He reported hearing explosions after the planes hit, and before the towers collapsed. Nothing new or surprising there.

Debunkers can debunk all you like, you just can't explain what happened to Barry Jennings. Nobody can.

Exactly which part can't we explain?

demonspawn

King Mob wrote: »

People asked you to provide either reasoning or evidence that Barry Jennings' family disappeared.

Please explain something to me then. Barry Jennings family has not been seen or heard from since his death. What more evidence is required of their disappearance?

Now the cause or reason of that disappearance is obviously up for debate. Some have argued that it's because they were hounded by CTers, when the truth is the last interview Mr. Jennings gave before his death was to a BBC debunkers show where he refuted his earlier comments regarding stepping over dead bodies in the lobby of WTC7.

I cannot provide evidence to show that the Jennings family is safe and well somewhere. Can you? I can provide evidence that they have completely disappeared as the complete lack of evidence to the contrary is evidence enough. Does that make sense?

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

Please explain something to me then. Barry Jennings family has not been seen or heard from since his death. What more evidence is required of their disappearance?

Now the cause or reason of that disappearance is obviously up for debate. Some have argued that it's because they were hounded by CTers, when the truth is the last interview Mr. Jennings gave before his death was to a BBC debunkers show where he refuted his earlier comments regarding stepping over dead bodies in the lobby of WTC7.

I cannot provide evidence to show that the Jennings family is safe and well somewhere. Can you? I can provide evidence that they have completely disappeared ad the complete lack of evidence to the contrary is evidence enough. Does that make sense?

Then can you please provide this evidence?

demonspawn

King Mob wrote: »

Then can you please provide this evidence?

I can provide evidence that they have completely disappeared as the complete lack of evidence to the contrary is evidence enough. Does that make sense?

See? I can play that game too.

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

See? I can play that game too.

Is that the only evidence you can provide?
Is that the evidence you're claiming to have?

It's not very convincing at all.

demonspawn

King Mob wrote: »

Is that the only evidence you can provide?
Is that the evidence you're claiming to have?

It's not very convincing at all.

Well then it's a good thing I have no intention of convincing anyone of anything. It is you who are trying to convince me I'm wrong. So where's your evidence?

Yitzhak Rabin

By Demonspawns logic, you can prove almost anyone has been dissapeared.

I haven't heard President McAleese's daughter give an interview in a while. No trace of her on google either.

Therefore, she has been captured and killed by the NWO because she knew the truth about 9/11.

Try it yourselves, you can do it with almost anyone, even yourself.

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

Well then it's a good thing I have no intention of convincing anyone of anything. It is you who are trying to convince me I'm wrong. So where's your evidence?

You see that was my original point.

You're the one who said you had the evidence.
I asked for you to show this evidence, and either you failed or your "evidence" is frankly laughable, it's not clear which.

Now I never claimed positively that his family had disappeared, so I don't have any evidence to that effect, however the your lack of evidence to the contrary, ie. that they did disappear is evidence enough. Does that make sense?

demonspawn

King Mob wrote: »

So pointing out the fact that you've nothing to show that his family have disappeared anywhere is ridiculous?
Showing the huge logical flaw in your argument is not constructive criticism?

Maybe if you'd like "intelligent debate" you should take a crack at actually addressing point instead of moaning and ignoring people.

but then that would require you to have a defensible and logical position backed up by evidence....

I've answered your question several times already. The Jennings family are nowhere to be found. Nobody is able to get in contact with them. A PI hired by Dylan Avery to investigate this case came back, refunded Avery's money, and told Avery not to contact him ever again.

Explain to me how that family has not disappeared so we can move on to another point.

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

I've answered your question several times already. The Jennings family are nowhere to be found. Nobody is able to get in contact with them.

Assuming this is true, which you've failed to actually show, it doesn't mean they have disappeared.
As per Yehaks' example.
Can you show where our presidents daughter is?

demonspawn wrote: »

A PI hired by Dylan Avery to investigate this case came back, refunded Avery's money, and told Avery not to contact him ever again.

And where exactly are you getting this and how do you know it's true?

demonspawn wrote: »

Explain to me how that family has not disappeared so we can move on to another point.

Well for one I'm not actually making that claim at all. Just showing there's nothing supporting yours.

But lets say for arguments sake I do make that claim.
There was an interview with them two weeks ago. They spent most of it laughing at conspiracy theories.
And since you've no evidence to show they have disappeared, I win.

Now can you show me the flaw in this example argument?
Can the same flaw be found in yours?

gizmo

demonspawn wrote: »

I've answered your question several times already. The Jennings family are nowhere to be found. Nobody is able to get in contact with them. A PI hired by Dylan Avery to investigate this case came back, refunded Avery's money, and told Avery not to contact him ever again.

Explain to me how that family has not disappeared so we can move on to another point.

As I said back on the first page, perhaps the family do not want to be found for obvious reasons - being inundated with interview requests from CTers and having a PI snooping around their lives. At the end of the day a member of their family died and as private citizens they are entitled to their privacy.

demonspawn

gizmo wrote: »

As I said back on the first page, perhaps the family do not want to be found for obvious reasons - being inundated with interview requests from CTers and having a PI snooping around their lives. At the end of the day a member of their family died and as private citizens they are entitled to their privacy.

Ok, I'll accept that possibility although I think it's absolute BS.

Let's move on to the next point. Why the complete media blackout of Barry's death? He was a national hero, he is attributed to saving the life of Michael Hess. So where are his tributes in the national papers?

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

So you're just arguing for argument's sake. Welcome to the ignore list, have fun in there!!

Well that's clearly not what I said or was my point.

But I suppose you needed something to throw a hissy fit over....
Oh well, so much for intelligent debate and stuff.

Luckily other people will see the fact you've been unable to address any points made against you at all.

Mahatma coat

Hang on a Minute here lads, I see both sides calling for 'intelligent debate' Yet neither side seems capable of doing that.


Lets get this thing back on track.

Barry Jennings made Some Statements in his Avery interview that raised some MAJOR Questions about what Actually happened in the WTC Prior to the Towers Falling.

I do not doubt the accuracy with which he Recounted His Experiences of what happened that day, Later he recants everything and refuses further interviews, then He dies somewhat suspiciously 2 days before the NIST report.

Now It seems that despite their best efforts the CT Community cannot find ANY Trace of Jennings Family.

Now would any of the Skeptics/Debunkers like to tell me what they see as Wrong in the above Statements???

King Mob

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Barry Jennings made Some Statements in his Avery interview that raised some MAJOR Questions about what Actually happened in the WTC Prior to the Towers Falling.

You mean like every other out of context witness that gets trotted out?
Why weren't they killed?

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I do not doubt the accuracy with which he Recounted His Experiences of what happened that day, Later he recants everything and refuses further interviews,

And it's not possible that he was wrong or misquoted and then refused to do more interviews for fear of being misquoted or hounded by toofers?

Mahatma coat wrote: »

then He dies somewhat suspiciously 2 days before the NIST report.

So they why couldn't the lizard people just have made him quietly disappear like people think they did with his family?
And why then would they kill him at a suspicious time?
And why him at all when there are thousands of other witnesses toofers think blow the lid on the whole thing?

And considering CTs find clouds suspicious, I suppose any death can be the work of the Lizards.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Now It seems that despite their best efforts the CT Community cannot find ANY Trace of Jennings Family.

Well considering the "best efforts" seem to be one site makes the claim, others parrot it without a scrap of critical thought, it's not very surprising.

And as has been pointed out even if there was no trace of them, it doesn't imply anything at all.

Can you find our presidents daughter?
If not she must have been killed by the NWO for some nonsensical reason.

Di0genes

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Barry Jennings made Some Statements in his Avery interview that raised some MAJOR Questions about what Actually happened in the WTC Prior to the Towers Falling.

No it doesn't Jennings statement is that he heard explosions prior to the towers collapse. No one is disputing that. Other witnesses confirm.

I do not doubt the accuracy with which he Recounted His Experiences of what happened that day, Later he recants everything

Mahatma you don't know the first thing about what you are talking about. Jennings was unhappy with Avery's editing and juxtaposition of his comments. (manipulating and distorting witness statement happens over and over again in Avery's work) And declined to co-operate with Dylan again. Jennings was happy to explain himself to the BBC conspiracy files.

and refuses further interviews,

No he refused to co-operate with the liar Dylan Avery. He was happy to explain himself to the conspiracy files team.

then He dies somewhat suspiciously 2 days before the NIST report.

No he died from his ilness that he had been battling for quite a while.

Now It seems that despite their best efforts the CT Community cannot find ANY Trace of Jennings Family.

HA! All I've found is a claim on the 9/11 Blogger site that Avery hired a PI, to find Jenning's family. Avery has consistently been exposed as liar over the past few years, and seems to have drifted away from the CT scene.

I don't believe Avery contacted a PI, and if he did could he provide the name of this PI?

Now would any of the Skeptics/Debunkers like to tell me what they see as Wrong in the above Statements???

Um pretty much everything you said actually.

Mahatma coat

OK Lets try this for a novel concept

If you Make a claim, no matter what side yer on

BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE.

Now, everything I said in my statements is backed up by evidence presented on this thread.

could Mob and Dio please extend the same courtesy when presenting their 'debunking' evidence.

King Mob

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Now, everything I said in my statements is backed up by evidence presented on this thread.

Except for the main important bit, that his family has disappeared.
This hasn't been substantiated in anyway shape or form.

But then we're not disputing the facts just your silly interpretations.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

could Mob and Dio please extend the same courtesy when presenting their 'debunking' evidence.

Could you point out any positive claims we made that haven't been supported?

Seriously do you still not understand how this evidence thing works?

demonspawn

Mahatma coat wrote: »

OK Lets try this for a novel concept

If you Make a claim, no matter what side yer on

BACK IT UP WITH EVIDENCE.

Now, everything I said in my statements is backed up by evidence presented on this thread.

could Mob and Dio please extend the same courtesy when presenting their 'debunking' evidence.

Mahatma, don't bother mate. They'll just run around in circles until you go mental from pure frustration. I equate it to trying to explain algebra to a two year old, it's just not gonna happen no matter how hard you try.

I posted this thread for other CTers to discuss as I don't believe many here knew about Mr. Jennings. If you guys find any more info regarding Mr. Jennings feel free to add to what's already been said, although this has been investigated like no other CT and nothing whatsoever has surfaced. Complete media blackout.

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

Mahatma, don't bother mate. They'll just run around in circles until you go mental from pure frustration. I equate it to trying to explain algebra to a two year old, it's just not gonna happen no matter how hard you try.

I would imagine it's very frustrating trying to provide evidence for something that is the figment of someone's imagination.

Must be so much easier to just buy everything the internet tells you and not listen to opposing views.

Mahatma coat

which parts are imaginary? Please expand on this.

If you can show that Demonspawn has made any of this up then please Show it.

Can you show any of the claims to be False????

Can you back your own assertions with anything more than incredulity?

King Mob

Mahatma coat wrote: »

which parts are imaginary? Please expand on this.

If you can show that Demonspawn has made any of this up then please Show it.

The part where he claimed a PI was hired.
There's simply nothing there to support that.

But as I said, I don't think you or he made that particular chestnut up. Just that you are parroting it.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Can you show any of the claims to be False????

You mean besides the one where he claimed to have evidence that the family had disappeared they failed utterly to provide that?

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Can you back your own assertions with anything more than incredulity?

Again which assertions do we need to back up?

I note that you can't point out a single claim we've made that isn't supported either.

Are you gonna address any other points at all?

demonspawn

Yesterday, April 15th 2009 I was contacted by “Loose Change” director, and narrator Dylan Avery who said that he had recently begun investigating the death of Barry Jennings, and had found some new information relating to his death.

It seems that there is a very good possibility that Jennings’ death could have been due to foul play. Though the investigations are on going, initial findings are somewhat alarming. The conclusion is still forthcoming, but I was shocked by what I heard.

It seems that Dylan had hired a private investigator to look into Jennings death which remains shrouded in mystery. His motive was simply to bring some closure to the life of Barry Jennings, and in doing so to honor the memory of this brave American. The Investigator ended up referring the case to Law enforcement before refunding his pay, and told Dylan never to contact him again. Very unusual to say the least. Dylan also paid a visit to the Jennings home. He found it vacant and for sale.

Personally, something is really beginning to stink here. Why would a highly paid PI refuse to continue his investigation? Why did he refer the matter to police? He is not talking. What is he afraid of. Was he warned to cease and desist? If so by whom?

These are some of the new questions revolving around the Jennings case.

Clip from Dylan Avery on DEADLINE LIVE today where he tells the story (4/16/2009)

Live audio at the bottom of the following link:

http://edwardrynearson.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/new-information-on-the-death-of-911-eyewitness-barry-jennings/

King Mob

demonspawn wrote: »

Clip from Dylan Avery on DEADLINE LIVE today where he tells the story (4/16/2009)



http://edwardrynearson.wordpress.com/2009/04/17/new-information-on-the-death-of-911-eyewitness-barry-jennings/

Well if a random guy on the internet said he hired a PI there's no reason he would lie....

Well I hired one the other day and he found the family alive and well...
Therefore I win.

demonspawn

King Mob wrote: »

Well if a random guy on the internet said he hired a PI there's no reason he would lie....

Well I hired one the other day and he found the family alive and well...
Therefore I win.

Ok genius, you obviously missed the half hour of audio at the bottom of the page where Dylan Avery says everything in the text. How's about you listen to that before you make another comment. I already have you on ignore, I'm just reading your posts out of boredom.