Daniel Levy/Joe Lewis

Dublin Spur

Ormus wrote: »

Moussa Dembele

has he signed ?

Hatch99

Dublin Spur wrote: »

has he signed ?

Ormus

Dublin Spur wrote: »

has he signed ?

Yes

2nd Row Donkey

Fulham on Wednesday said in a statement: "The club can today confirm that it has reached an agreement with Tottenham Hotspur for the transfer of midfielder Moussa Dembele.

"The 25-year-old Belgian international has successfully completed a medical and will sign for an undisclosed fee.

"Following two full seasons at Craven Cottage, the club would like to thank Moussa for his contribution and wish him well throughout the rest of his career."

Dembele's move is reported to be worth in the region of £15million and Fulham could likely look to reinvest the money before Friday's transfer deadline.

The Belgian joined Fulham in the summer of 2010 in a £5million move from Dutch club AZ Alkmaar and has built a star reputation in that time.

Dublin Spur

Okay - 1 in the bag with 48hrs to go, quite slick by Levy standards

Why does he always finalise our business so late in the day ?
We would probabaly have more then 1 pt if the signings were made on time.

Anyway, lets see who else he manages to do a deal with between now and Friday

It will be very disapointing if all of the Modric money is not invested, but then again there are shareholders to consider and he's one of the largest.

Ormus

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Okay - 1 in the bag with 48hrs to go, quite slick by Levy standards

Why does he always finalise our business so late in the day ?
We would probabaly have more then 1 pt if the signings were made on time.

Anyway, lets see who else he manages to do a deal with between now and Friday

It will be very disapointing if all of the Modric money is not invested, but then again there are shareholders to consider and he's one of the largest.

Ok, one last time, £132,000,000 NET spend on player transfers 2001-2011.

Conclusive conclusive proof that Levy is not pocketing any transfer money and is doing far far more than pumping it straight back in.

2nd Row Donkey

An average of £13m net spend per season.

How does that compare to the our peers over the last 10 years?

mickman

Ormus wrote: »

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Okay - 1 in the bag with 48hrs to go, quite slick by Levy standards

Why does he always finalise our business so late in the day ?
We would probabaly have more then 1 pt if the signings were made on time.

Anyway, lets see who else he manages to do a deal with between now and Friday

It will be very disapointing if all of the Modric money is not invested, but then again there are shareholders to consider and he's one of the largest.

Ok, one last time, £132,000,000 NET spend on player transfers 2001-2011.

Conclusive conclusive proof that Levy is not pocketing any transfer money and is doing far far more than pumping it straight back in.

132 million spent and nothing except a carling cup to show for it

Ormus

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

An average of £13m net spend per season.

How does that compare to the our peers over the last 10 years?

I'm not gonna do the comparison at the moment. I'd imagine it's more than Arsenal or Liverpool but not sure.

http://transferleague.co.uk/

Ormus

mickman wrote: »

132 million spent and nothing except a carling cup to show for it

I was answering DublinSpur who suggested that Levy keeps transfer money back to share it out among the shareholders.

Maybe this is another topic but I really don't understand why people still measure a club's success by trophies. Times have moved on.

Quarter final of the Champions League is worth 6 Carling Cups in my book.

Hatch99

Ormus wrote: »

I was answering DublinSpur who suggested that Levy keeps transfer money back to share it out among the shareholders.

Maybe this is another topic but I really don't understand why people still measure a club's success by trophies. Times have moved on.

Quarter final of the Champions League is worth 6 Carling Cups in my book.

ye reckon, I'd have taken 6 cups ahead of a CL QF

pleasant Co.

Have we been building up reserves for a lovely new stadium?

Ormus

Hatch99 wrote: »

ye reckon, I'd have taken 6 cups ahead of a CL QF

Fair enough, it's just an opinion, the Carling Cup doesn't do it for me.

Antisocialiser

Hatch99 wrote: »

ye reckon, I'd have taken 6 cups ahead of a CL QF

Don't get me wrong; I was over the moon with our cup win but to put it in perspective - Birmingham won the Carling cup in 2011, Cardiff lost the final on penalties last year.

Compare that with our CL campaign. It literally put us back on the football map across Europe. I don't think we would be linked with (and signing!!) the players we are today without it. Plus it's revenues further bankrolled our ability to compete with the tops teams in the premier league and beyond.

2nd Row Donkey

Ormus wrote: »

I'm not gonna do the comparison at the moment. I'd imagine it's more than Arsenal or Liverpool but not sure.

http://transferleague.co.uk/[/QUOTE]

thanks for the link. Interesting stuff.

mickman

Ormus wrote: »

mickman wrote: »

132 million spent and nothing except a carling cup to show for it

I was answering DublinSpur who suggested that Levy keeps transfer money back to share it out among the shareholders.

Maybe this is another topic but I really don't understand why people still measure a club's success by trophies. Times have moved on.

Quarter final of the Champions League is worth 6 Carling Cups in my book.

I know you were answering Dublin spur , wasn't making a jibe at you. You really are very defensive man

Anyway - you don't think a clubs success should be measured by trophies ???? That's a bit strange , seeing as all football fans want is to see their team lift trophies

What should measure a clubs success - a profit and loss account ?

Ormus

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Ormus wrote: »

I'm not gonna do the comparison at the moment. I'd imagine it's more than Arsenal or Liverpool but not sure.

http://transferleague.co.uk/[/QUOTE]

thanks for the link. Interesting stuff.

No problem.

It's funny looking at some of the players Spurs signed in the 90s.

Can't believe we spent 2.3m on Moussa Saib in 97/98.

Hopefully the new Moussa will be better.

2nd Row Donkey

Ormus wrote: »

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

No problem.

It's funny looking at some of the players Spurs signed in the 90s.

Can't believe we spent 2.3m on Moussa Saib in 97/98.

Hopefully the new Moussa will be better.

Having a good laugh at the money liverpool have spent over the years.
Jesus they bought some muck. Esp full backs.

Ormus

mickman wrote: »

I know you were answering Dublin spur , wasn't making a jibe at you. You really are very defensive man

Anyway - you don't think a clubs success should be measured by trophies ???? That's a bit strange , seeing as all football fans want is to see their team lift trophies

What should measure a clubs success - a profit and loss account ?

I think I'm more sorta counter attacking

I think for a club like Fulham or Stoke, the Carling Cup is a big achievement.

For a club like Spurs, I measure our success by league position and Champions League participation. No harm in winning a cup here and there but I like us to experiment and rotate a bit in the cups.

Anyway, that's just me, there is no right and wrong.

mickman

Ormus wrote: »

mickman wrote: »

I know you were answering Dublin spur , wasn't making a jibe at you. You really are very defensive man

Anyway - you don't think a clubs success should be measured by trophies ???? That's a bit strange , seeing as all football fans want is to see their team lift trophies

What should measure a clubs success - a profit and loss account ?

I think I'm more sorta counter attacking

I think for a club like Fulham or Stoke, the Carling Cup is a big achievement.

For a club like Spurs, I measure our success by league position and Champions League participation. No harm in winning a cup here and there but I like us to experiment and rotate a bit in the cups.

Anyway, that's just me, there is no right and wrong.

Fair enough , going by that then the last ten years have been abject failure except for one champs league

I do agree that the bar the last 2 years then the rest have been a failure

However , I feel that winning trophies is what it's all about. Success breeds success. When players get used to winning trophies then that winning mentality arrives

When people talk about real Madrid they talk about the number of trophies they have won , ( including Spanish cup and so called mickey mouse cups )

I would love to see us lifting the Europa league this season

Ormus

mickman wrote: »

Fair enough , going by that then the last ten years have been abject failure except for one champs league

I do agree that the bar the last 2 years then the rest have been a failure

However , I feel that winning trophies is what it's all about. Success breeds success. When players get used to winning trophies then that winning mentality arrives

When people talk about real Madrid they talk about the number of trophies they have won , ( including Spanish cup and so called mickey mouse cups )

I would love to see us lifting the Europa league this season

Since Levy took over we have seen major improvement in our league position and also our first time ever in the Champions League, and we got to the quarters.

I think competing against the top clubs and the top players is what breeds success.

I'd like to see us give some of the younger players (Livermore, Caulker, Naughton, Kane etc) and some of the back up players (Jenas, Hudd, Daws) a run out in the group stage of the Europa League. If we get to the business end of it then maybe it would be worth playing the first team, but I wouldn't want it to distract us from the league.

Leinstersqspur

To be fair this £132 net spend figure should probably only be compared relative to other incomings/outgoings like merchandise, season tickets prices, player salaries, sponsorship etc...

At the moment we've a net profit of £40.5m on player transfers since our run in the Champions League...


PS. I'd say that £16.5 spent on Bentley really grinds Levy's gears!:D

Ormus

Leinstersqspur wrote: »

To be fair this £132 net spend figure should probably only be compared relative to other incomings/outgoings like merchandise, season tickets prices, player salaries, sponsorship etc...

At the moment we've a net profit of £40.5m on player transfers since our run in the Champions League...


PS. I'd say that £16.5 spent on Bentley really grinds Levy's gears!:D

Yeah that's true, those figures would provide a bigger picture, especially if compared with other similar sized clubs.

I would hope that figure of 40.5m will go down a bit in the next 36 hours.

The Bentley fee is disgusting. We have a very bad record on 8 figure signings.

Hatch99

Levy acting the ballix with Lloris and every other deal by the sounds of it :rolleyes:

Leinstersqspur

Hatch99 wrote: »

Levy acting the ballix with Lloris and every other deal by the sounds of it :rolleyes:

Bids for both Remy and Lloris rejected in one day.... Gotta be joking!

Hatch99

If Lloris doesn't sign because Levy acted the prick offering less than originally agreed, he should lynched !

Dublin Spur

Hatch99 wrote: »

If Lloris doesn't sign because Levy acted the prick offering less than originally agreed, he should lynched !

Oi, get to the back of the queue

Hatch99

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Oi, get to the back of the queue

Dublin Spur

Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has launched a withering attack on Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy for moving the goalposts on their attempts to sign Hugo Lloris.

Tottenham have been chasing France No1 Lloris all summer but Lyon insist that Spurs have now tried to change the terms of the deal at the last minute.

Outspoken Aulas now gives the Lloris deal a "50-50" chance and issued a long and bitter attack on Levy and Spurs after claiming they have made it the hardest deal in his 25 years of experience.

Aulas, talking at today's Europa League draw in Monaco, said: "We have had people speaking all night with Daniel Levy. He talks a lot and goes back on what we've agreed in writing.

"The things as they were at 5am were not the same at 10am. I think we have to make sure we get a certain amount of value because it's important that Hugo can go to a quality club that allows him to do himself justice from a value point of view, so that he can feel right about it.

"At the moment we're talking about whether he can come back to say his goodbyes to the supporters, to his team-mates, so we can honour him, this truly great player and brilliant man.

"I would put it at 50-50 that Hugo goes to Tottenham. Although from the outset we've submitted to agreements I would now put it at 50-50 that he'll be going there.

"Agreements have not at all been respected. We've done what we can. Hugo has been troubled by the difficulty in these negotiations.

"He's one of the best in Europe in his position. Our transfer window is open until 4 September but for Tottenham the English transfer window closes on 31 August. Either it happens tonight or not at all for Hugo Lloris.

"It's been very, very difficult. I'vee got 25 years of experience as a president of a club and it's our 16th participation in a European competition in a row. But this is very rare in the football world.

"The negotiation with the Tottenham directors has been the hardest I have ever had to undergo in these 25 years.

"We had email exchanges which have been contradicted, so that's made it very complicated. It's difficult. The Tottenham board's theory is to explain that the economic market is very hard and so we have to get used to renegotiating.

"But for us, who are attached to a player of the quality of Hugo Lloris, and such is the value of the transfer, that causes us to ask questions.

"He has agreed personal terms with Tottenham, he remains under that impression, but since we have had Hugo Lloris on the telephone for a long time overnight and this morning and he's completely undecided about what happens next.

"We've been negotiating all night. The first negotiation was at the start of the window, about a month-and-a-half ago, through an intermediary who was a French lawyer, who lives in Lyon.

"And then nothing for about a month-and-a-half. The negotiation then picked up again about a week ago."

Ormus

Dublin Spur wrote: »

Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has launched a withering attack on Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy for moving the goalposts on their attempts to sign Hugo Lloris.

Tottenham have been chasing France No1 Lloris all summer but Lyon insist that Spurs have now tried to change the terms of the deal at the last minute.

Outspoken Aulas now gives the Lloris deal a "50-50" chance and issued a long and bitter attack on Levy and Spurs after claiming they have made it the hardest deal in his 25 years of experience.

Aulas, talking at today's Europa League draw in Monaco, said: "We have had people speaking all night with Daniel Levy. He talks a lot and goes back on what we've agreed in writing.

"The things as they were at 5am were not the same at 10am. I think we have to make sure we get a certain amount of value because it's important that Hugo can go to a quality club that allows him to do himself justice from a value point of view, so that he can feel right about it.

"At the moment we're talking about whether he can come back to say his goodbyes to the supporters, to his team-mates, so we can honour him, this truly great player and brilliant man.

"I would put it at 50-50 that Hugo goes to Tottenham. Although from the outset we've submitted to agreements I would now put it at 50-50 that he'll be going there.

"Agreements have not at all been respected. We've done what we can. Hugo has been troubled by the difficulty in these negotiations.

"He's one of the best in Europe in his position. Our transfer window is open until 4 September but for Tottenham the English transfer window closes on 31 August. Either it happens tonight or not at all for Hugo Lloris.

"It's been very, very difficult. I'vee got 25 years of experience as a president of a club and it's our 16th participation in a European competition in a row. But this is very rare in the football world.

"The negotiation with the Tottenham directors has been the hardest I have ever had to undergo in these 25 years.

"We had email exchanges which have been contradicted, so that's made it very complicated. It's difficult. The Tottenham board's theory is to explain that the economic market is very hard and so we have to get used to renegotiating.

"But for us, who are attached to a player of the quality of Hugo Lloris, and such is the value of the transfer, that causes us to ask questions.

"He has agreed personal terms with Tottenham, he remains under that impression, but since we have had Hugo Lloris on the telephone for a long time overnight and this morning and he's completely undecided about what happens next.

"We've been negotiating all night. The first negotiation was at the start of the window, about a month-and-a-half ago, through an intermediary who was a French lawyer, who lives in Lyon.

"And then nothing for about a month-and-a-half. The negotiation then picked up again about a week ago."

Crybaby.

If he had an agreement in writing then it can't be renegotiated.

Clearly he didn't have it in writing, therefore it is only talk, therefore it's completely open to renegotation.

I'd like to hear Levy's side to this, although it would be unusual for him to talk about negotiations.