Bizarre/Illegal things on motorways

TheChizler

Quickelles wrote: »

But you can bet your bippy there are numerous laws that can nail you if you wear an L-plate while having a full licence.

Such as?

Quickelles

TheChizler wrote: »

Such as?

No idea.

But as I said you can bet your bippy there are some/many.

Consult a lawyer for details....:rolleyes:

TheChizler

Quickelles wrote: »

No idea.

But as I said you can bet your bippy there are some/many.

Consult a lawyer for details....:rolleyes:

I remain to be convinced.

corktina

Quickelles wrote: »

No idea.

But as I said you can bet your bippy there are some/many.

Consult a lawyer for details....:rolleyes:

I'm with you here... a couple of charges I can think of (which probably wouldn't stick but would cost you dear in court costs and time off etc...):

Wasting garda time in pulling over a seemingly L Driver unaccompanied
Driving without out due consideration, by giving other drivers the impression you are an L driver.

L1011

Not a hope in hell either would stick in court. There is zero legal compulsion to remove l plates when not in use.

Arciphel

On the M3 yesterday just after the Navan toll booth heading Dublin bound, guy in front of me in the overtaking lane has two bicycles on the back of his estate Mondeo. I notice one of them is moving, the handlebars seems to be turning so I drop back into the left lane. Sure enough the bike comes off the back of the car and breaks in bits all over the road :-( what does the driver do? Jams on the brakes and stops the car and gets out and starts picking up the bits of the bike!

ardmacha

There is zero legal compulsion to remove L plates when not in use.

It is time that there was, this should have been addressed when the driver licencing was reformed.

TheChizler

ardmacha wrote: »

It is time that there was, this should have been addressed when the driver licencing was reformed.

Why? The only reason I can see is people might get a bit complacent seeing a few more around than they should, and start ignoring them, but is it likely that there's a comparable ratio of actual learners to non-learners with L-plates up? I can't imagine you'd notice any difference if they were obliged to take them down.

Alun

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Show me where it says this in the rules of the road. Nobody who shares a car with a learner removes the plates every time they use the car.

No, it doesn't rather bizarrely (to me at least). In the UK, it's illegal to display L plates when the car isn't being driven by a learner under tuition and it damn well should be here too.

Coincidentally and a bit OT, learners on here complain, rightfully, that they're often beeped at and face other kinds of intimidation when making mistakes while learning. Well maybe if the display of an L plate actually meant something here, and you could be pretty certain that a car displaying them was actually someone learning, as opposed to someone who couldn't be arsed to remove them, that'd stop.

sofitalliah

Idiot taxi driver. .

flazio

With a fare in the back? :eek:
Send these pictures to the Gardaí and Taxi regulators straight away. That car should have it's licence revoked.

The J Stands for Jay

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Show me where it says this in the rules of the road. Nobody who shares a car with a learner removes the plates every time they use the car.

I always take the plates down when I'm driving. Who wants to be agressively tailgated everywhere you go.

ezra_pound

Alun wrote: »

No, it doesn't rather bizarrely (to me at least). In the UK, it's illegal to display L plates when the car isn't being driven by a learner under tuition and it damn well should be here too.

Coincidentally and a bit OT,b learners on here complain, rightfully, that they're often beeped at and face other kinds of intimidation when making mistakes while learning. Well maybe if the display of an L plate actually meant something here, and you could be pretty certain that a car displaying them was actually someone learning, as opposed to someone who couldn't be arsed to remove them, that'd stop.

It is not illegal in the uk for a non learner to drive with L plates.
That's rubbish.

ezra_pound

corktina wrote: »

I'm with you here... a couple of charges I can think of (which probably wouldn't stick but would cost you dear in court costs and time off etc...):

Wasting garda time in pulling over a seemingly L Driver unaccompanied
Driving without out due consideration, by giving other drivers the impression you are an L driver.

You have got to be kidding.

Alun

ezra_pound wrote: »

It is not illegal in the uk for a non learner to drive with L plates.
That's rubbish.

Many years ago, I was told by my driving instructor (an ex police advanced driving instructor) in the UK that it was. Anyway, it should be.

ezra_pound

Alun wrote: »

Many years ago, I was told by my driving instructor (an ex police advanced driving instructor) in the UK that it was. Anyway, it should be.

Well it's not.

Autogyre

Who needs those pesky tyres anyway?

Alun

ezra_pound wrote: »

Well it's not.

Well, even it isn't in the UK, and I can find several online references from UK driving schools suggesting that it is, it should be. I'd like to see anyone drive on a UK motorway for very long with L plates up without getting stopped.

Just remove the damn things when you're not teaching someone to drive and then we'll actually know who are the learners and who aren't, which is what they're supposed to indicate, otherwise we may as well not bother with them. I mean, really, how difficult is it to just take them down when not needed?

Quickelles

Alun wrote: »

I mean, really, how difficult is it to just take them down when not needed?

It would appear that in Ireland it is a major operation. :rolleyes:

TheChizler

The problem I think is that the learners forget to put them back up once they're down. Would be their own fault but it's easier to avoid that situation, better to have L-plates up when you're not a learner than not have them up when you are. Any potential results from having them unnecessarily up are a minor inconvenience at best.

MrDerp

I don't really see the issue with the L plates being left up by licensed drivers.

At motorway speed, I treat everyone as a potential idiot. An L plate isn't going to change that.

Victor

OK, let's move the discussion along.

Moderator

ezra_pound

In an ideal world everybody would always remove L plates after a learner.

However in an ideal world there wouldn't be any criminal offences.

In an ideal world everyone should change their socks and brush their teeth at the correct intervals, however it is not worth considering making insufficient sock changing a crime.

People don't like showing L plates so there is no real concern of mass amounts of drivers putting up L plates 'because they can'.

No need to criminalise in a perfect or imperfect world.

donspeekinglesh

Every day, morning and evening I see people running across the M3 at Clonee.
Also saw a lad on a bike heading onto the m50 at Santry.

downonthefarm

Seen a fella on friday reversing up a one way street it was rush hour.he was having diffoculty reversi.ng so I thought be patient.but when I eventualy got past he was doing all this whole on the phone

ardmacha

downonthefarm wrote: »

Seen a fella on friday reversing up a one way street it was rush hour.he was having diffoculty reversi.ng so I thought be patient.but when I eventualy got past he was doing all this whole on the phone

Driving on the phone, sure Pierce Brosnan could do that......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKAME9fAA-4

ezra_pound

ardmacha wrote: »

Driving on the phone, sure Pierce Brosnan could do that......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKAME9fAA-4

I'm just a regular guy from meath.

fryup

anyone see a convoy of honda 50's last night on the m7 ??

JamBur

Driving on the M7 yesterday. There was a torrential downpour, visibility was crap, I slowed to about 30\40kph, but came up behind two idiots who had stopped in the lefthand lane. They didnt even pull into the hard shoulder! If I was going any bit faster it would have been catastrophic.

fryup

^^^^ i hope you blew them out of it!!