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Saying 'No' to Internationalism

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    #32
    rovert
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    metrovelvet wrote: »
    They settled in new york city, an extended kibbutz

    aka Jewish America then?

    But what about Hollywood?


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    #33
    rovert
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    They lived on the periphery of Christian kingdoms in the Middle Ages. In modern times, they infiltrated Christian society and became too powerful. Then came Hilter, the Holocaust, and the Jewish exodus to either Israel, or New York.

    This getting very awkward.


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    #34
    PopeUrbanII
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    rovert wrote: »
    aka Jewish America then?

    But what about Hollywood?

    It was once Jewish-controlled (i.e., Hollywood), but it's more mixed today. The only problem with Jews is their liberalism. They're culturally conservative, but politically liberal. This, matched with their control of popular media in America, presents major problems for the resurrection of Christendom.


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    #35
    Overheal
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    mattblacktiger wrote: »
    Where do non-christian americans fit into your little fantasy world????
    Will we have to wear something to signify our non-christianity
    Bizarro indeed.
    I'm sure theres a way to play six degrees to kevin bacon on that...


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    #36
    PopeUrbanII
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    rovert wrote: »
    This getting very awkward.

    Not really. To best understand authentic, Western Christian culture, we must start with the European Middle Ages. THAT is the social and cultural model we must try to rebuild, and live within. Modernity has again betrayed us.


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    #37
    Overheal
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Perhaps we don't agree on basic terms. To me, 'multi-culturalism' is code for Internationalism, which is code either for Marxism or anti-Western nationalism. I loathe and live to fight both. I proudly despise Obama.
    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    'Context'........'talking points'........'specific arguments' -- all code for 'suppression of anti-Obama speech'. Sorry, M. A huge number of us loathe everything Obama stands for. THAT's our 'context'. Deal with it.


    tinfoilhat.jpg

    I am just so very glad that even among Christians you are on the far, far right minority.


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    #38
    rovert
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    To best understand authentic, Western Christian culture, we must start with the European Middle Ages. THAT is the social and cultural model we must try to rebuild, and live within.

    How do you we do that chase the Jew out of New York back and back to periphery of Christian kingdoms? As that is what I am summarising here from you.


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    #39
    PopeUrbanII
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    "I embrace 'progress', as defined by others, only to be invaded by foreigners, who hate my God and my race, take over, and enforce their brutal, ignorant will through thought-controlling police, who smile, as they kill me, kidnap my children, and steal my property. I've been duped."

    -- Bewildered Western Christian, in the present age


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    #40
    rovert
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    Is that a yes? If that is what you think say it rather than talk in riddles.


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    #41
    PopeUrbanII
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    rovert wrote: »
    How do you we do that chase the Jew out of New York back and back to periphery of Christian kingdoms? As that is what I am summarising here from you.

    Only after we tear down the present order, and rebuild it in the image of Medieval Europe. Modernity has betrayed us. It has set loose upon us linch-mobs, led by mongrelizing, populist opportunists. Think of Obama as a mulatto version of Robespierre. As for the Jews, they must be returned to their former status of merchants, operating between the mixed bands of people, outside The Kingdom. We'll keep them close.......but not within our rank and file.


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    #42
    metrovelvet
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    You want to ship everyone back? Even the chinese?


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    #43
    metrovelvet
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Only after we tear down the present order, and rebuild it in the image of Medieval Europe. Modernity has betrayed us. It has set loose upon us linch-mobs, led by mongrelizing, populist opportunists. Think of Obama as a mulatto version of Robespierre. As for the Jews, they must be returned to their former status of merchants, operating between the mixed bands of people, outside The Kingdom. We'll keep them close.......but not within our rank and file.

    I haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Medeival europe? Are you kidding me? You want a feudalistic society,with bad plumbing, high illiteracy rates, filth, etc. **** that.


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    #44
    PopeUrbanII
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    rovert wrote: »
    Is that a yes? If that is what you think say it rather than talk in riddles.

    I most certainly believe that. 'Progress' today means mass suicide for the Christian West. It's a contemptible term, concept and practice.


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    #45
    Black Swan
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Western Christians should abandon you, and never again try to build a viable country with your cooperation. You weren't part of the story of the building of Europe.
    "YUP YA BETCHA," Europe is pure Christian:

    "The citizens of the weakened Roman Empire gazed in fear and disdain upon these uncouth barbarians with tattooed faces and top-knotted hair. The Christianized Romans could not understand how God could allow these pagans to destroy their once-mighty empire; they called Attila the "Scourge of God."

    invasions_of_the_roman_empire_1.png

    Source:
    http://asianhistory.about.com/od/profilesofasianleaders/p/AttilaProf.htm


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    #46
    Overheal
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Only after we tear down the present order, and rebuild it in the image of Medieval Europe. Modernity has betrayed us. It has set loose upon us linch-mobs, led by mongrelizing, populist opportunists. Think of Obama as a mulatto version of Robespierre. As for the Jews, they must be returned to their former status of merchants, operating between the mixed bands of people, outside The Kingdom. We'll keep them close.......but not within our rank and file.
    So, you blame and fear the Modern Age for Lynch Mobbing yet you basically support Lynch Mobbing: Which was basically a bunch of white people going around and hanging black people who had been given the right to vote. If your whole soapbox thread is about claiming a White Christian superiority is being suppressed by minorities and political progress.

    How does that make sense?


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    #47
    wes
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    Last time I checked, those of us who live in Europe, refer to Medieval Europe as the Dark ages, and as such I would advise against emulating that period.....


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    #48
    PopeUrbanII
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    metrovelvet wrote: »
    I haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

    Christendom, e.g., Christian Empire, as it existed during medieval times. No more modernity. It's a lie. It's death for Western Christian Man. If you still don't get it, think of Obama, and then think of everything totally opposite Obama. THAT's what I'm talking about -- everything OPPOSITE Obama. Everything.


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    #49
    Amerika
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    metrovelvet wrote: »
    I thought NAFTA was Clinton.

    This is what I remember from history... but I did go through the public school system.
    When Was NAFTA Started?:
    NAFTA was signed by President George H.W. Bush, Mexican President Salinas, and Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney in 1992. It was ratified by the legislatures of the three countries in 1993. The House approved it by 234 to 200 on November 17 and the Senate by 60 to 38 on November 20. It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on December 8, 1993 and entered force January 1, 1994. Although it was signed by President Bush, it was a priority of President Clinton's, and its passage is considered one of his first successes. (Source: History.com, NAFTA Signed into Law, December 8, 1993.

    How Was NAFTA Started?:
    The impetus for NAFTA actually began with President Ronald Regan, who campaigned on a North American common market. In 1984, Congress passed the Trade and Tariff Act. This is important because it gave the President "fast-track" authority to negotiate free trade agreements, while only allowing Congress the ability to approve or disapprove, not change negotiating points. Canadian Prime Minister Mulroney agreed with Reagan to begin negotiations for the Canada-U.S. Free Trade Agreement, which was signed in 1988, went into effect in 1989 and is now suspended due to NAFTA. (Source: NaFina, NAFTA Timeline)
    Meanwhile, Mexican President Salinas and President Bush began negotiations for a liberalized trade between the two countries. Prior to NAFTA, Mexican tariffs on U.S. imports were 250% higher than U.S. tariffs on Mexican imports. In 1991, Canada requested a trilateral agreement, which then led to NAFTA. In 1993, concerns about liberalization of labor and environmental regulations led to the adoption of two addendums to NAFTA. (Source: Infoplease.com, NAFTA)
    http://useconomy.about.com/od/tradepolicy/p/NAFTA_History.htm

    I still blame the Republicans.


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    #50
    PopeUrbanII
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    wes wrote: »
    Last time I checked, those of us who live in Europe, refer to Medieval Europe as the Dark ages, and as such I would advise against emulating that period.....

    Like it or not, they're coming. As you know, European, the Dark Ages resulted from the downfall of Rome (aka: Civilization) in the West, in AD 476, with the final assault of barbarians. Enter Obama and his cult.............
    As for you, European, enter Islam and Socialism......................


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    #51
    Overheal
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    Amerika, there were times when even Megatron and Optimus Prime buddied up to kick ass.

    I hope you don't agree with any of this nonsense?


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    #52
    wes
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Christendom, e.g., Christian Empire, as it existed during medieval times. No more modernity. It's a lie. It's death for Western Christian Man. If you still don't get it, think of Obama, and then think of everything totally opposite Obama. THAT's what I'm talking about -- everything OPPOSITE Obama. Everything.

    Last time I checked Obama is a Christian..... Se being everything opposite Obama would mean rejecting Christianity, and as such you making no sense.....


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    #53
    rovert
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Only after we tear down the present order, and rebuild it in the image of Medieval Europe. Modernity has betrayed us. It has set loose upon us linch-mobs, led by mongrelizing, populist opportunists. Think of Obama as a mulatto version of Robespierre. As for the Jews, they must be returned to their former status of merchants, operating between the mixed bands of people, outside The Kingdom. We'll keep them close.......but not within our rank and file.

    As the Jews cant be trusted to be left to their own devices right?
    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    THAT's what I'm talking about -- everything OPPOSITE Obama. Everything.

    Thats clear.

    This is great craic


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    #54
    metrovelvet
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    Ok. I dont like Obama either. And I dont like seeing burka clad women in tne subway.

    But you are talking craziness. Medeival Europe. Noooooooo!!


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    #55
    wes
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Like it or not, they're coming. As you know, European, the Dark Ages resulted from the downfall of Rome (aka: Civilization) in the West, in AD 476, with the final assault of barbarians. Enter Obama and his cult.............
    As for you, European, enter Islam and Socialism......................

    The Barbarian's really weren't as bad as the Romans made them out to be actually. It was pretty much ancient Propaganda to make them out to be evil. They were really no worse than the Romans. There was plenty of other civilization around at the time, in Egypt, Persia, India, China, and various other places. Rome was not the only place with Civilization.

    Secondly, you are calling for the emulation of Medieval Europe, and not the Roman empire, so it seems you have your time lines all kinds of confused.


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    Overheal
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    rovert wrote: »
    This is great craic
    It was a novelty a couple weeks ago but now its simply clear he's unwilling to engage in a discussion.

    I miss JohnMc1. He got more involved and you at least knew he was willing to listen even if he disagreed with you till the ends of the earth.


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    #57
    PopeUrbanII
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    Overheal wrote: »
    So, you blame and fear the Modern Age for Lynch Mobbing yet you basically support Lynch Mobbing: Which was basically a bunch of white people going around and hanging black people who had been given the right to vote. If your whole soapbox thread is about claiming a White Christian superiority is being suppressed by minorities and political progress.

    How does that make sense?

    The story of the Klan is a minute piece of a much larger story. I'm not talking about the KKK, although I understand their motives and can relate. But there you go again -- assuming that Reason and Liberalism are the same thing. They're not. I argue that Liberalism is irrational and deadly, for Western Christian Man. Nonetheless, you're free, of course, to do your own thing. I don't want to suppress you. I just want my people to bug out, and bug out now. To hell with modern society.


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    Overheal
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    The story of the Klan is a minute piece of a much larger story. I'm not talking about the KKK, although I understand their motives and can relate. But there you go again -- assuming that Reason and Liberalism are the same thing. They're not. I argue that Liberalism is irrational and deadly, for Western Christian Man. Nonetheless, you're free, of course, to do your own thing. I don't want to suppress you. I just want my people to bug out, and bug out now. To hell with modern society.
    Where do you propose to bug out to?


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    #59
    rovert
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    Overheal wrote: »
    It was a novelty a couple weeks ago but now its simply clear he's unwilling to engage in a discussion.

    I still give him an 'A' for his flights of fancy.
    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    The story of the Klan is a minute piece of a much larger story. I'm not talking about the KKK, although I understand their motives and can relate. But there you go again -- assuming that Reason and Liberalism are the same thing. They're not. I argue that Liberalism is irrational and deadly, for Western Christian Man. Nonetheless, you're free, of course, to do your own thing. I don't want to suppress you. I just want my people to bug out, and bug out now. To hell with modern society.

    I heart this paragraph.

    So anyway what is Internationalism exactly?


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    #60
    PopeUrbanII
    Closed Accounts Posts: 108 ✭✭PopeUrbanII


    Overheal wrote: »
    It was a novelty a couple weeks ago but now its simply clear he's unwilling to engage in a discussion.

    I miss JohnMc1. He got more involved and you at least knew he was willing to listen even if he disagreed with you till the ends of the earth.

    Sorry. I give your arguments no merit whatsoever. I've considered them all, for years. I've lived most of them, for years. At 53, I reject them all, wholesale. YOU are the 'context' of my revolt. What is my 'specific argument'? Obama.
    DOWN WITH OBAMA


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    #61
    rovert
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    PopeUrbanII wrote: »
    Sorry. I give your arguments no merit whatsoever. I've considered them all, for years. I've lived most of them, for years. At 53, I reject them all, wholesale. YOU are the 'context' of my revolt. What is my 'specific argument'? Obama.
    DOWN WITH OBAMA

    Youve consider them for years and your solution is to go back to Medieval times? Sorry but I reject that wholesale too.


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