Extremely drunk women.

fonecrusher1

Was in a situation this weekend where i could easily have 'pulled' this woman i got talking to in a pub.

Long story short, i didn't. Why? She was totally wasted at the end of the night. I'd been talking to her for about an hour & noticed she was hammering back vodka & cokes like there was no tomorrow.

Anyway when it came to the crunch she seemed fairly keen to 'get to know eachother better' she slurred at me. Truth be told, she was only ok to look at (not that im a brad pit look-a-like or anything) & the smell of vodka off her would have made a russian alcoholic gag.

Now i wouldn't have minded a bit of company but this girl was wrecked & i found it a huge turn off to be honest. Also, strangely her friend reacted in a very grumpy/pissed off way when i tried to talk to her??? Looking at me suspiciously as if i was trying to take advantage or something when it was yur one that approached me in the first place!:rolleyes:

Well whats the general opinion on these sort of situations? Would you drive on or would you walk away?

No hilarious i'd ride anything me! replies please.

krudler

Walk away, fast. Women who are completely pissed are a huge turnoff for me, theres tipsy, theres happy drunk, then theres hammered, the first 2 are fine. Way I see it is I could be anyone if shes that drunk, shes not even really interested in me, just....parts of me lol

Mrmoe

If I have the same or higher level of intoxication than the girl in question then I drive on. If I am sober and she is drunk then thats a dead end. In fairness if she was that drunk by the end of the night then she would more than likely have her head in the toilet bowl rather than anywhere else;)

the_dark_side

sounds like it would be just a mess.. she could end up being sick, or worse again, have some sort of emotional mickey fit and accuse you of all sorts.. getting off with a drunk stranger is roulette, there's 1 chance in 10 that it would be worth it (depending on what you call 'worth it')

amacachi

I turned down one very hot women and quite a few OK ones as well as female friends because they've been off their heads even when I was too. I've actually turned down a lot more women for being drunk that I've ever gotten with, something I don't plan on doing in future. :pac:

doctorwu

Walk. Its always ends up more trouble than its worth. So ive been told.

Wolfe Tone

It depends last thing ya want is the "took advantage" label. If you are just as drunk then yeah.

But if she is mega hammered as in cannot walk unaided then sketch. Idealy she would be at the few drinks buzz stage.

amacachi

ScareGilly wrote: »

Well somebody's a virgin...

Well read. :pac:

minidazzler

If I was hammered there's a good chance I would.

But I am sober enough that I realise she is drunk, then I wouldn't. Would feel weird for me TBH. I like girls like I like my whiskey, not drunk. Tipsy and very merry I would, as long as I had had a few drinks too. Sex with a drunk person while sober just isn't fun!

Bodhisopha

When she is drunk in the face, meaning her face looks drunk, she's too drunk for me.

CDfm

It could have been great and she might have really rocked your world on the night but it was equally likely she would not have and her behavior would have been unpredictable.

I would say her friend was there to get her home safely and was none to pleased about it either. So it was a "counting chickens before they are hatched" event so unless your name was Vladimir Smirnoff she was going home with her friend.

You may have stood a better chance with the friend -who was probably asking herself why thetrainwreck was getting the attention.

Maguined

Way too dangerous if she is so drunk she is sluring her words I would definitely walk away.

Being that drunk is always a huge turn off, I really can't stand when a man or a women gets so drunk they basically have to be babysat by their friends the rest of the night, it comes across as extremely selfish and so annoying to me and that is without taking into account she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts.

Otis Driftwood

Im leaving this open for now but have deleted a couple of posts,drunkmonkey and scaregilly,please familiarise yourselves with the charter before posting,thanks.

Brendog

I'd like to post what I think of drunk women through the guise of a BBC Documentarian


Drunk women, like the giant ant-eaters of southern polynesia, are one of the most unattractive forces on the planet,as many case studies will show.

They're behavioural nature rapidly changes on a constant basis. This acts alot like camoflauge.
The inebriated female draws the sexually frustrated male into her inclosure, saying such things as "Your really cute".

This lowers the males guard as he becomes intranced by the females supple breats and firm buttocks.
The females mood will then change revealing her true form."Nobody likes me", "I'm fat".

It is at this point there is no escape for the male. His fate, like many before him, has been sealed.


The female also has a repellent to ward off would-be attackers. She releases it in the form of "THIS SONG IS ABOUT ME!!" and "I JUST GOT MY PERIOD!!"

The natural habitat of the drunk female is a dense, rainforest like area, flowing with smoke and alcohol.

CDfm

I forgot to ask -but were you the one buying the vodka's

Macha

So no one is actually worried about the idea of taking advantage of someone who is too drunk to consent? The closest we get is "she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts."

Wow. Just wow.

Maguined

Alcohol has always been an extremely grey area when it comes to removing someone's capacity to give consent, I reckon there is a huge number of irish people that have woken up one morning in a bed that they do not remember getting into and what they got up to last night.

I reckon people are also assuming they have been also heavily drinking as well, so if the woman is drunk enough to not properly give consent chances are the man in the situation is also drunk enough to not properly give his consent either, but this happens all the time, Irish nightclubs are full of adults who have drank themselves beyond their legal capacity to give consent and they end up in each others company.

fonecrusher1

taconnol wrote: »

So no one is actually worried about the idea of taking advantage of someone who is too drunk to consent? The closest we get is "she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts."

Wow. Just wow.

Don't even think about it.

Please don't turn this into a all men are bastards thread & i hope the subtle accusation above isn't aimed at me.


To answer a few questions, no i didn't buy her any drinks & she wasn't completely & utterly wasted but yes pretty drunk. But not legless.

As someone else said if i had been equally pissed then i'd say this thread would never exist.:D I didn't get drinking till 9 o'clock so i only had 3/4 pints in me when i met her hence my ability to accurately describe the situation.

Someone else said it would just end up a mess? Thats exactly why i walked away, my buddy said this as well. The thought of more than likely having to look after the girl as she spewed chunks down the toilet all night & then having to arrange a taxi at 5 in the morning does tend to be a turn off.

I couldn't be arsed TBH.

CptMackey

I think if your are as drunk then it is def ok to drive on but if not it can lead to some weird mornings even if nothing happened.

Like a house party I was at once. Two friends of mine work up naked in the same bed and couldnt remember if they did any thing lol. Turns out they didnt :pac:

Macha

Maguined wrote: »

Alcohol has always been an extremely grey area when it comes to removing someone's capacity to give consent, I reckon there is a huge number of irish people that have woken up one morning in a bed that they do not remember getting into and what they got up to last night.

I reckon people are also assuming they have been also heavily drinking as well, so if the woman is drunk enough to not properly give consent chances are the man in the situation is also drunk enough to not properly give his consent either, but this happens all the time, Irish nightclubs are full of adults who have drank themselves beyond their legal capacity to give consent and they end up in each others company.

Fair enough, that's your assumption but it isn't clear. Good post.

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Don't even think about it.

Please don't turn this into a all men are bastards thread & i hope the subtle accusation above isn't aimed at me.

Please don't tell me what to post and don't try to represent my comment as an "all men are bastards" comment and therefore invalid. I think my comment was sufficiently gender neutral but just to clarify, it applies to both genders.

Maguined

Its one of those assumptions we all take for granted, I doubt any single poster would argue it is okay for a stone cold sober man to take home an extremely drunk girl so no one really mentions it as taken as a given.

When both people have been drinking in a pub its a lot more grey, both people are intoxicated but then it gets really dodgy as how do you compare peoples levels of intoxication, I know some people that start slurring their words after 2 beers but are mentally all still there while others I know can be completely mentally shut down but still act like they are completely fine, a friend of mine gets drunk and always makes his way home safely and always seems fine but never remembers anything past his 4th drink, to any woman he meets in a club he would seem perfectly fine but realistically he could not give genuine consent.

Galvasean

Forget that. I wont even kiss a girl that's noticably more drunk than I am. I like to think I can get a girl based on my own merits, not some magic potion.

fonecrusher1

taconnol wrote: »

Please don't tell me what to post and don't try to represent my comment as an "all men are bastards" comment and therefore invalid. I think my comment was sufficiently gender neutral but just to clarify, it applies to both genders.

Whats up with "Wow just wow"? as though your disgusted at how insensitive we all are or something? Are you dissapointed about something?

Its just a bit of light-hearted banter.

Maguined

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

Whats up with "Wow just wow"? as though your disgusted at how insensitive we all are or something? Are you dissapointed about something?

Its just a bit of light-hearted banter.

I think its just a bit of a miscommunication where taconnol may have read some of our posts as meaning we would have no problem taking a drunk woman home even if we were completely sober which would make that person a scumbag.

Though this is only my estimate, I am not trying to speak for taconnol.

Kooli

Maguined wrote: »

I think its just a bit of a miscommunication where taconnol may have read some of our posts as meaning we would have no problem taking a drunk woman home even if we were completely sober which would make that person a scumbag.

Though this is only my estimate, I am not trying to speak for taconnol.

I do think she made a fair point. The question is 'would you take a really drunk woman home', most of the answers seem to be no, for various reasons including how unattractive it is when someone's that drunk, how it won't actually be a good experience, how you can't be sure she genuinely likes you and how you might be accused of something the next day.

I wouldn't see any reason to assume that everyone was also thinking of another reason (i.e. that you can't be sure it's consensual) but not saying it??

amacachi

taconnol wrote: »

So no one is actually worried about the idea of taking advantage of someone who is too drunk to consent? The closest we get is "she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts."

Wow. Just wow.

Well I had the consent form ready for her to sign but she could have still claimed drunkeness and it would've been ruled inadmissible.

Mrmoe

taconnol wrote: »

So no one is actually worried about the idea of taking advantage of someone who is too drunk to consent? The closest we get is "she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts."

Wow. Just wow.

I'm sorry but that kind of attitude really ticks me off. So it is only the woman that can be taken advantage of in this situation. If you look at the majority of replies most say that they wouldn't take a girl home that was even more drunk than they themselves were. At what level of inebriation is a woman not bale to give consent? I guess it is one where she is practically unconscious and I see no one here saying that they would take advantage of some one in that situation.

Max Power1

amacachi wrote: »

Well I had the consent form ready for her to sign but she could have still claimed drunkeness and it would've been ruled inadmissible.

being drunk does not remove the ability to consent.

This is an excuse used by women when they wake up beside an "uggo".

CDfm

taconnol wrote: »

So no one is actually worried about the idea of taking advantage of someone who is too drunk to consent?

Hiya Taco.

That is very subjective as and what yardstick do you use. If a person is still walking and talking they can give consent.

The closest we get is "she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts

People do a lot worse when they drink -such as drive.

We do not excuse that as poor judgement so why excuse sleeping with someone.

That she might well regret her behavior the following morning.

Surely, she has some responsibility for the amount she drinks and her behavior after that. She is not a child and knows that drinking to that excess reduces her inhibitions.

taconnol wrote: »

Please don't tell me what to post and don't try to represent my comment as an "all men are bastards" comment and therefore invalid. I think my comment was sufficiently gender neutral but just to clarify, it applies to both genders.

It may be gender neutral but what about looks.

If you look at it though the regrets could be because you no longer fancy the person in the same way that you did when you were drunk.

Say the young guy going off with his mothers friend or his boss ,which is hugely embarressing.

Herbal Deity

taconnol wrote: »

So no one is actually worried about the idea of taking advantage of someone who is too drunk to consent? The closest we get is "she could wake up in the morning and accuse you of all sorts."

Wow. Just wow.

tbh, a grown woman is responsible for her actions, drunk or not.

And one would have to be absolutely legless to not be able to consent.

Huge difference between preying on extremely drunk women and having a drunk woman come on to you or getting with someone while you're both drinking.

And the context of the first post and posts following it clearly indicate that it's the latter that's being discussed.

Macha

This thread is the most depressing I've read in a long, long time.

I didn't accuse anyone of anything. My post was gender neutral and I clarified that in a later post. As was pointed out by another poster, my issue with the discussion was that of all the reasons discussed for not wanting to take a drunk person home, their inability to consent wasn't one of them. If both people are drunk then tough on both of them but when one is sober and another drunk, the burden of responsibility changes.

And as an aside, it is a disgrace that in 2010 anyone still thinks that a person being drunk makes them in any way responsible for a sexual assault. That goes for men and women.

metrovelvet

Herbal Deity wrote: »

tbh, a grown woman is responsible for her actions, drunk or not.

And one would have to be absolutely legless to not be able to consent.

Huge difference between preying on extremely drunk women and having a drunk woman come on to you or getting with someone while you're both drinking.

And the context of the first post and posts following it clearly indicate that it's the latter that's being discussed.

I didnt take Taco's post to suggest what many are accussing her of.

A lot of the comments are concerned with potential culpability and not sensitivity to exploiting someone when their judgement is skewed.

Obviously if you are both drinking then both people are out of it.

Saying that, apparantly there have been several cases of women showing up at a and e claiming they were rohipnoled and raped and no such drug showed up. They were drunk and did not recall their consent, or perhaps lack of, so I can see why guys would stay well away for that reason alone.

CDfm

taconnol wrote: »

This thread is the most depressing I've read in a long, long time.

how come ?

amacachi

taconnol wrote: »

This thread is the most depressing I've read in a long, long time.

I didn't accuse anyone of anything. My post was gender neutral and I clarified that in a later post. As was pointed out by another poster, my issue with the discussion was that of all the reasons discussed for not wanting to take a drunk person home, their inability to consent wasn't one of them. If both people are drunk then tough on both of them but when one is sober and another drunk, the burden of responsibility changes.

And as an aside, it is a disgrace that in 2010 anyone still thinks that a person being drunk makes them in any way responsible for a sexual assault. That goes for men and women.

What's your idea of drunk though? I doubt anyone here would **** a de facto mannequin and most assumed that went without saying.

Mrmoe

taconnol wrote: »

This thread is the most depressing I've read in a long, long time.

I didn't accuse anyone of anything. My post was gender neutral and I clarified that in a later post. As was pointed out by another poster, my issue with the discussion was that of all the reasons discussed for not wanting to take a drunk person home, their inability to consent wasn't one of them. If both people are drunk then tough on both of them but when one is sober and another drunk, the burden of responsibility changes.

And as an aside, it is a disgrace that in 2010 anyone still thinks that a person being drunk makes them in any way responsible for a sexual assault. That goes for men and women.

Do we have to state explicitly that we would not rape or sexually assault someone? I think most people here take this as the case. I do not think anyone here would condone having sex with a woman who could not give consent. By saying that nobody mentioned it you are suggesting that we give it a thumbs up and when it is followed up by the "wow, just wow" comment. That to me is an insult to my character and those of other posters.

Kooli

Well the fact that some people have responded by saying that 'a grown woman is responsible for her actions, drunk or not' says to me that it does not 'go without saying' that everyone is on the same page regarding the consent issue.

And that's not a criticism. I do think it's a tricky thing that's not as black and white as we would like to think. I've heard people say that no one should EVER have sex with someone who's really drunk or else it's rape. Well if that's the case I've been raped plenty of times...

Yet we all agree that if someone is completely legless and can't speak or is unconscious, then it's non-consensual.

So where do we draw the line? As someone said earlier in the thread, some people slur their words while still being totally able to think straight. Others appear fine while being totally off their faces.

But maybe this is for another thread?

NothingMan

What ever about the whole moral/trouble dilemma it sounds as if the girl Fone was talking to started hammering the drinks back after they first met. To me it seems like she was drinking so she had enough dutch courage to talk or be more forward with you. Which would be all well and good if she knew what she could handle and didn't end up wrecked.

I think it's funny that when a guy wakes up with a munter it's a case of "well it was gettin late and there was nobody else showin an interest, so fúck it, she was a good shag".

Yet when the roles are reversed it's a case of "oh my god, I was so drunk I don't remember anything. I think I was drugged! I never normally get like that". You're fooling no one. Just accept it for what it was, a drunken fumble with someone you've no intention of seeing again.

metrovelvet

Its because the emphasis was on culpability and not regard for the other.

Black Magician

Brendog wrote: »

I'd like to post what I think of drunk women through the guise of a BBC Documentarian


Drunk women, like the giant ant-eaters of southern polynesia, are one of the most unattractive forces on the planet,as many case studies will show.

They're behavioural nature rapidly changes on a constant basis. This acts alot like camoflauge.
The inebriated female draws the sexually frustrated male into her inclosure, saying such things as "Your really cute".

This lowers the males guard as he becomes intranced by the females supple breats and firm buttocks.
The females mood will then change revealing her true form."Nobody likes me", "I'm fat".

It is at this point there is no escape for the male. His fate, like many before him, has been sealed.


The female also has a repellent to ward off would-be attackers. She releases it in the form of "THIS SONG IS ABOUT ME!!" and "I JUST GOT MY PERIOD!!"

The natural habitat of the drunk female is a dense, rainforest like area, flowing with smoke and alcohol.

very funny post

Id never touch an extremely drunk women, being that badly drunk is, depending on the person in question and regardless of the sex, a state that is not the persons normal state of mind. Id rather get to know the 'real' person and hope she fancied me and not because of her beer goggles! Drunk women are very unappealing.

princess-lala

I was out at the weekend in a new town and Sunday evening we were in the pub. In walked two girls - no more than 19 and both of them staggering at half 8!

They sat at a table beside us and one went to the bar and arrived back with a jug of a cocktail and the two of them got straws and sat drinking out of the jug! Classy birds

I met them again in the club on the dance floor falling over each other and everyone else near them! They were still being served at the bar at this stage - nobody asked them to leave!

I did see them trying it on with lads - some of the lads walked away others didn't! Now I know if that was any of my friends acting like that I'd walk away from them or tell them to cop themselves on!

At 18 you just wanna go out and get locked but as you grow up you cop on, I go out for a few drinks, never get myself into such a state I even look drunk! Sometimes I wouldn't be sober coming home but I always know what I'm at!

I don't understand how girls or guys can go out and get in states like that and still actually pull! If a drunk fella came onto me I'd walk as fast as I can away

entropi

A simple answer there lala is that alot of lads will just take what they can get sadly...like you mentioned though, some lads walked...fair play to em!:)

If she was too drunk, definitely a no-no! Fairly drunk...I'd be wary still. Normally if a girl was sober or tipsy then I'd be glad to chat or whatever, when they get drunk they just wreck my head anyways.

Of course I need to speak about the composure of said woman, if she's been noticeably knocking back vodka & cokes like in the OP's story, then you would know she'll be off her face soon enough...I'm sure someone would go for her but when people get to that state, they really shouldnt be allowed to be served, or remain on premises and should be brought out, put into to a waiting taxi and be sent home. (I am also thinking here about the morality of a vast minority of drivers who could themselves use her being drunk as an excuse to fool around etc but will not proceed along those lines).

Giselle

I don't understand how being incapable of coherent speech or even coherent thought is having a good time. I realise thats just me though, and everyone's different.

I don't drink, never have because I don't like it, and I never want to be one of those people who wake up and wonder what or who they did the night before.

I saw a girl peeing in a doorway once, in full view of passers-by and oblivious to the disgust of strangers. Its quite possible that she woke up the next day and told her friends 'It was a great night, I don't remember anything!'.

So to answer the question from a female perspective, no, I'd never drive on with a drunk person. Not primarily because I might be accused of something dodgy, not primarily because it would make me explotative of someone compromised, not primarily because there's a difference in our levels of drunkeness, but because I find it a complete turn off.

Mrmoe

Kooli wrote: »

Well the fact that some people have responded by saying that 'a grown woman is responsible for her actions, drunk or not' says to me that it does not 'go without saying' that everyone is on the same page regarding the consent issue.

I have to disagree to a certain extent there. I think women should be responsible for their actions even when they are drunk but that does not mean it extends to rape or sexual assault and that was the crux of the problem and what some were being accused of.

Kooli

Mrmoe wrote: »

I have to disagree to a certain extent there. I think women should be responsible for their actions even when they are drunk but that does not mean it extends to rape or sexual assault and that was the crux of the problem and what some were being accused of.

But I don't think there's a consensus on what actually constitutes rape or sexual assault when it comes to the drunkenness issue.

sam34

CDfm wrote: »

Hiya Taco.

That is very subjective as and what yardstick do you use. If a person is still walking and talking they can give consent.




People do a lot worse when they drink -such as drive.

We do not excuse that as poor judgement so why excuse sleeping with someone.

this is a very interesting point, and one i thought a lot about recently in the light of a particular criminal case.

your point

If a person is still walking and talking they can give consent.

isnt actually correct. they may be walking and talking but their judgement may be so impaired (by an intoxicant) that they cannot give valid consent.

now:

a)what lad, possibly drunk himself, in search of a shag at 2am is going to be able to accurately assess someone's capacity to consent?

b)if she is incapable of consenting, should any guy who "drives on" be prosecuted? or is the fact that she is responsible for her own incapacity (rather than any illness etc) be taken into account?

c)why then are drunk drivers deemed to be responsible for their actions, if it can be shown that their judgement was sufficiently impaired to prevent them making a rational decision?

note: i am not trying to start any fights/heated debates, i'm just genuinely a bit puzzled by this.

metrovelvet

Exactly.

Also, lets face it, there are girls/women so shy of their own sexuality they have to drown their inhibitions. And also blame tne drink.

CDfm

Mrmoe wrote: »

Do we have to state explicitly that we would not rape or sexually assault someone?.

Taco is alright.

It is a fairly gauche subject "drunk girl sex" & it is not very pc. There is nothing romantic about it.

fonecrusher1

taconnol wrote: »

This thread is the most depressing I've read in a long, long time.

I didn't accuse anyone of anything. My post was gender neutral and I clarified that in a later post. As was pointed out by another poster, my issue with the discussion was that of all the reasons discussed for not wanting to take a drunk person home, their inability to consent wasn't one of them. If both people are drunk then tough on both of them but when one is sober and another drunk, the burden of responsibility changes.

And as an aside, it is a disgrace that in 2010 anyone still thinks that a person being drunk makes them in any way responsible for a sexual assault. That goes for men and women.

And your first reply has got to be the most negative, miserable contribution ive seen in a long time.

Its depressing because you twisted it into a depressing thread. Talk about killing the mood & now your bringing up sexual assault????!!!

What started out as an honest, light-hearted account of a personal experience has now become a debate about sexual predators.:rolleyes:

Its responses like yours that actually discourage people from contributing to this forum for fear of being demonised.

donfers

just last saturday i had a few beers with some mates and went up to the dance floor, wasn't too drunk and was enjoying the music, one girl kept coming over to me and dancing near me but I took no notice of her as I have a girlfriend and just danced away, didn't even make eye contact...then suddenly out of the blue I get a hand pushed into my face, i just kind of stopped and stepped back a bit startled, wandering what the feck was that...then I noticed it was a friend/acquaintance of the girl who had been trying to dance with me for the last while, she was wagging her finger at me and basically saying stay away from her WHEN THAT HAD BEEN EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING NOT THAT IT WAS ANY OF HER BUSINESS, anyway I didn't even have the chance to tell her to get knotted before from the corner of my eye I noticed some bouncers rushing onto the floor in my direction. I thought to myself, here we go, no doubt, as the guy I will be blamed as the bad guy in this situation...but to my enormous surprise they went to the girl who put the hand in my face, had a few strong words with here and escorted her off the floor, they didn't even say word to me. They must have seen the whole situation develop as the dancefloor wasn't exactly crowded. I was delighted about that and continued dancing away for the rest of the night, it was one of those rare occassions on a night out when the guy is not automatically assumed to be the bad guy.

I have no problems with girls getting drunk, they have as much right to do that as any guy does, what everybody, male or female has to do is to realise where their limit is, where the point of losing self-control is and most importantly be responsible for the consequences of how they behave when drunk.

Nobody forces the drink down us,w e choose ourselves to drink, we can stop whenever we like, the sad truth is many people actually actively seek to get drunk for the very reason that they want to lose control and remove inhibitions.

Short of someone not being able to stand up or string a sentence together they must be responsible for what happens in their drunken state.

x in the city

girls in clubs and pubs are as unpredictable as when the next storm is coming when they are pisheddd.

particularly in the 20s bracket.

Bottle_of_Smoke

Max Power1 wrote: »

being drunk does not remove the ability to consent.

This is an excuse used by women when they wake up beside an "uggo".

To be honest I think this is true in the vast vast majority of cases.

Its very difficult to define. This is a bit of a tangent but I think sufficiently relevant to the topic

Last year slept with a girl i normally wouldn't touch. I was quite drunk. If 1=Sober and 10=Babbling incoherently and falling over I was about an 8

Everyone else left the house and she came on to me quite heavily. Now I kind of didn't want to do it but only cause I wasn't overly physically attracted to her. If I was sober/less drunk I think I would of walked outta there. But at the same time I wanted to ride something. So I slept with her and regretted it in the morning.

I definitely had the ability to say no so you could argue there was consent. But given I wouldn't have done it sober(and have turned same girl down since then) you could argue it wasn't real consent

What do you think? Also if the sexes were reversed would that change your opinon?