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  • 22-07-2010 03:52PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭


    Hey was just wondering is anyone else using eircom is having problems. For about the past month everytime i try and play call of duty the connection is so bad i have no choice but to turn it off. I really want to play a good lag free game of cod but can't, im really frustrated! Anyone else using eircom having problems? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭userod


    Hi Liam, for online gaming it's not so much about you're speed as your latency (although you do want an ok speed aswell). Check out pingtest.net and see what you're latency on the line is? Ideally you want something under 50-60ms. I'm not on eircom but I know all my friends who play COD on eircom have trouble with it (can't join sessions, lag, etc). I sometimes do on site basic repairs of computers and if it's they're complaining of internet speeds etc I often do speedtests and pingtests. I've found eircoms latency to average about the 150-200ms mark which is ridiculous and generally unplayable unfortunately. Now that may just be the location I'm in but check it anyway. Sorry I didn't have good news for you...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭Kersmash


    I'm with Eircom and according to that speed test I have a ping of 30ms, but when I try to find a game of MW2, it always goes way past the games of 50-60ms. Is this just a case of me needing to search more or is there anything I can do to improve this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Liam90 wrote: »
    Hey was just wondering is anyone else using eircom is having problems. For about the past month everytime i try and play call of duty the connection is so bad i have no choice but to turn it off. I really want to play a good lag free game of cod but can't, im really frustrated! Anyone else using eircom having problems? Thanks


    Not only could it be high latency but also with some eircom lines depending on where you are , the speed is not stable which can cause the screen to jump around, if you know what i mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭sierra117x


    Kersmash wrote: »
    I'm with Eircom and according to that speed test I have a ping of 30ms, but when I try to find a game of MW2, it always goes way past the games of 50-60ms. Is this just a case of me needing to search more or is there anything I can do to improve this?
    well u may get 30 for a server in say dublin but there may not be any local hosts so when its searching for games in say the likes of the uk ur ping may go much higher . if you had a good enough connection all round (low ping high upload and good download) you could probably host a game yourself but your straying into the region of spending money :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Shammy


    Kersmash wrote: »
    I'm with Eircom and according to that speed test I have a ping of 30ms, but when I try to find a game of MW2, it always goes way past the games of 50-60ms. Is this just a case of me needing to search more or is there anything I can do to improve this?

    Its for that map , if you cancel it and restart the gamemode , you will get into a less than 50 ping game.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭celtic723


    Eircom are cockends.

    /thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭omerin


    i'm with eircom aswell and am having problems with cod. i have a thread about this problem with bfbc2 :( Spoke to eircom but once your speedtest is ok they couldn't give a rats ass. i have 3mb wireless and they wanted to sell me 7mb, though they mentioned that my line could only handle 5mb. NGB to come where i live between sep and dec 2010, something to look forward to ..... or not lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭Kersmash


    sierra117x wrote: »
    well u may get 30 for a server in say dublin but there may not be any local hosts so when its searching for games in say the likes of the uk ur ping may go much higher . if you had a good enough connection all round (low ping high upload and good download) you could probably host a game yourself but your straying into the region of spending money :)

    Ah right! My download seems to very between 4 and 6 when we're paying for 7, and my download is something like .3. It's very rare that I'd get host. Considering upgrading tbh. Probably move away from Eircom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Tommy_NDX


    When I moved into my house around september, I got eircom 3mb and it was perfect up until recently. I nearly always had 4 bars and hosted a lot of games in mw2. But for the last couple of months it has been brutal with speeds and ping going up and down like a yo-yo.

    Ive noticed that friends in my area with the same connection are having the same problems while those around the country are not so it could be down to problems where you are.

    (could be a conspiracy to get us to pay for a higher broadband package):P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,790 ✭✭✭slavetothegrind


    I too am on eircom and struggle to game online at all.

    I have no idea what a lag free game is like and would love to try it sometime....

    NGB supposed to be coming but we'll see:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    No problems for me at all, to be honest always have 4 bars in MW2.


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    It's down to location why mine sucks I do know that for a fact. I'm usually the odd one out in an online party be it COD or FIFA(for example in FIFA Club I'm 8 out of 10 times 2 bar).

    When I lived on campus in 1st year, nearly always 4 bar. Ah good times :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


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    my worse pings are to the dublin server,seems a bit odd,i always thought you would have a better ping the closer you were


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Rycn


    Liam90 wrote: »
    Hey was just wondering is anyone else using eircom is having problems. For about the past month everytime i try and play call of duty the connection is so bad i have no choice but to turn it off. I really want to play a good lag free game of cod but can't, im really frustrated! Anyone else using eircom having problems? Thanks
    Go into your connection settings leave everything as is but select PPPOE when you see it, username is "eircom", password is "broadband1". This will open up your connection to the servers and it will set your NAT to OPEN.

    This is for PS3 but should work for xbox if theres a PPPOE option.

    Hope this helps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,426 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    I think I ordered Eircom last Saturday while blind drunk. I remember ringing them and speaking to some dude in India and that's it. No response from them yet so maybe I'll just lie low.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,139 ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    I'm with eircom and have no issues what so ever online. I did at first when I used the wireless but then ran the cable through and it was fine. I've since gone back to being wireless and have zero issues.

    touch wood I don't get any now :)


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Hmmm, a first for me... but I was lagging really bad on 3 bars earlier this afternoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Finical


    Sometimes the DSL Sync light goes off on my router but comes back straight away. It disconnects me from psn/live though, really annoying. Anyone know the cause?


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    Hmmm, a first for me... but I was lagging really bad on 3 bars earlier this afternoon.

    Jesus, it's far worse on FIFA. At least a 3 second delay :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,093 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Did anyone get bumped up to the 8mb broadband (what Eircom are calling NGB) from their existing service?

    I'm still waiting :confused:

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Did anyone get bumped up to the 8mb broadband (what Eircom are calling NGB) from their existing service?

    I'm still waiting :confused:

    Many things can cause high latency:

    - Internal/Line issues
    - Congested Exchange
    - Congested interconnect between Exchange and ISP core network
    - High Interleave
    - PC issues such as P2P software etc...

    What Eircom call Next Generation Broadband (NGB) is nothing that other ISPs such as Smart, Magnet, BT arent already using. All they are doing is making it sound amazing but, in the end, all it is, is an ADSL2+ (maybe not even that) connection and a fibre optic backbone. This mean that your copper (or last mile) will not change, if you have a crappy line or live far from the Exchange, your line will remain the same is the interconnects between your exchange and Eircom's ISP that changes. Up until now they have been struggling with congestion issues. The reason was mainly due to lack of bandwidth. What they have done is that they have upgraded those interconnects to be able to deal with the current demand (something that they should have done prior to upgrading everyone to 8 mb almost 3 years ago).

    So now they promise an uncongested (although their product has a 12:1 contention ratio) broadband. I believe it will make things better, and it will improve latency on most lines (if the reason why you are suffering from congestion is not because of a line fault or internal).

    But the main reason why nowadays people are having problems with latency is because of Eircom's line profile settings and the use of a very severe interleave settings. If they dont remove or lower their interleave on their new NGB DSLAMs then it wont make a difference.

    Interleave was introduced for one single reason, in response to BT's and UPC speed upgrades. Back then the fastest eircom were offering was 3 mb. Most people were more than happy with their connection and rarely experience high latency. Then UPC introduced 20 mb and BT "up to" 24 mb (Magnet and Smart were already offering these speeds but they were no inmediate threat to Eircom). So eircom decided to upgrade everyone to 8 mb for "free".

    Unfortunately while Smart, BT and Magnet (UPC is cable) were using a more advance ADSL technology (ADSL2/+ up to 24 mb) Eircom were still using the old ADSL1 technology (up to 8 mb), so it was easier for Smart/BT/Magnet to put a customer on higher speeds than to Eircom.

    Pushing a line to the limit will generate erros, there is a way to correct is by using interleave but this increases latency.

    The other problem Eircom encountered is a lack of bandwidth between some of their Exchanges and the ISP core (is a bit more complicated than this but this will do).

    So is hard to tell if it will work, is up to eircom.

    Nonetheless, there is a profile called IPRAPID that lowers the interleave settings making it more suitable for gamers, Eircom retail should be offering this to their customers, people should ask them to be moved to this line profile.

    I am very lucky as I have a Magnet fibre connection at home and my pings at around 3-5 ms but I have suffered from high latency before, so I am sorry for all you guys


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ZuluPunch


    Giving your ps3 a static IP and assigning that IP into your DMZ setting in your router set up can help your connection while gaming.

    Thing that I really do hate is the whole P2P bs that we have to contend with. No matter how good a BB connection you have if the host has a horrid one, we are all fooked. That whole P2P aka demonware is originally a dublin brainfart / brainchild sold to activision btw.

    Why activision dont have dediacted servers for COD / MW bugs me. Its not like they cant afford it.

    Anyhoot....try the whole dmz thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,093 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Hey all,
    I've posted this on the other part of the site, re technical info, but haven't gotten any success yet, so was wondering if any of ye had encountered summit similar...

    I have a Netopia Router, model number 2247-62-2 EIR, provided by Eircom. My NAT setting is "strict" and always have two bars connection. Lads on here have said get that sorted (I'm dragging them down ;))

    I have googled the modem and have not found any websites that actually help.

    I rang Eircom on three occasions in the one day.

    1) I was told that the support guy could alter the NAT settings remotely and that it would be done within half hour. It wasn't.

    2) I was told that the earlier support guy should not have told me that he could do that - all they can do is lower the firewall. I was referred on to the Netopia online chat support and told that in the meantime, my ping was lowered. It wasn't.

    (I rang Netopia and they told me that the hardware was the ISP's responsability and that in any event they did not have the technical knowledge of that router).

    3) I was told to go to the website - portforward.com - Eircom could do nothing.

    (I followed the instructions on portforward... which were to input three sets of figures... which I did. I restarted the modem and still the same).

    At this stage, I feel like throwing the modem off the wall and buying another, but before I do that, can ANYONE please offer assistance.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Rycn


    Setting up your network settings, when you get to IP address select PPPOE and enter Username: eircom and Password: broadband1. This will set your NAT to type 1 and youll be grand :)

    Hope it helps, its easier on the PS3 to do this i hear, have no idea about the xbox.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭celtic723


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Hey all,
    I've posted this on the other part of the site, re technical info, but haven't gotten any success yet, so was wondering if any of ye had encountered summit similar...

    I have a Netopia Router, model number 2247-62-2 EIR, provided by Eircom. My NAT setting is "strict" and always have two bars connection. Lads on here have said get that sorted (I'm dragging them down ;))

    I have googled the modem and have not found any websites that actually help.

    I rang Eircom on three occasions in the one day.

    1) I was told that the support guy could alter the NAT settings remotely and that it would be done within half hour. It wasn't.

    2) I was told that the earlier support guy should not have told me that he could do that - all they can do is lower the firewall. I was referred on to the Netopia online chat support and told that in the meantime, my ping was lowered. It wasn't.

    (I rang Netopia and they told me that the hardware was the ISP's responsability and that in any event they did not have the technical knowledge of that router).

    3) I was told to go to the website - portforward.com - Eircom could do nothing.

    (I followed the instructions on portforward... which were to input three sets of figures... which I did. I restarted the modem and still the same).

    At this stage, I feel like throwing the modem off the wall and buying another, but before I do that, can ANYONE please offer assistance.

    The best assistance i can give you is to get rid of eircom. They are fucking cnuts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 ZuluPunch


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Hey all,
    I've posted this on the other part of the site, re technical info, but haven't gotten any success yet, so was wondering if any of ye had encountered summit similar...

    I have a Netopia Router, model number 2247-62-2 EIR, provided by Eircom. My NAT setting is "strict" and always have two bars connection. Lads on here have said get that sorted (I'm dragging them down ;))

    I have googled the modem and have not found any websites that actually help.

    I rang Eircom on three occasions in the one day.

    1) I was told that the support guy could alter the NAT settings remotely and that it would be done within half hour. It wasn't.

    2) I was told that the earlier support guy should not have told me that he could do that - all they can do is lower the firewall. I was referred on to the Netopia online chat support and told that in the meantime, my ping was lowered. It wasn't.

    (I rang Netopia and they told me that the hardware was the ISP's responsability and that in any event they did not have the technical knowledge of that router).

    3) I was told to go to the website - portforward.com - Eircom could do nothing.

    (I followed the instructions on portforward... which were to input three sets of figures... which I did. I restarted the modem and still the same).

    At this stage, I feel like throwing the modem off the wall and buying another, but before I do that, can ANYONE please offer assistance.

    Put your IP address into your DMZ on your router settings.
    Should give you a NAT open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,093 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    celtic723 wrote: »
    The best assistance i can give you is to get rid of eircom. They are fucking cnuts.


    Very little choice where I am mate... Wimax is the only alternative and I've not heard any reports about how good they are or otherwise... :(

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,093 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    ZuluPunch wrote: »
    Put your IP address into your DMZ on your router settings.
    Should give you a NAT open.

    If this is the option IP passthrough, I've done that (or at least I think I have) - there were 3, my laptop, my wife's and then the xbox

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,093 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Rycn wrote: »
    Setting up your network settings, when you get to IP address select PPPOE and enter Username: eircom and Password: broadband1. This will set your NAT to type 1 and youll be grand :)

    Hope it helps, its easier on the PS3 to do this i hear, have no idea about the xbox.

    I'll give that a shot, thanks!! :)

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭Rycn


    everlast75 wrote: »
    I'll give that a shot, thanks!! :)
    Are you ps3 or xbox? i see the xbox gamertag in your sig but just wondering?


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