Best Brand of Petrol

SpannerMonkey

what do you find the Best Brand of Petrol , not concerned about the amount of mpg you get ,just what your car runs best on

L1011

There is no such thing as 'brands' of petrol in Ireland, the raw fuel stock comes from one of two sources (Whitegate refinery or 'not refined in Ireland') and any post-delivery additives are inconsistantly applied even across the same brand name.

djimi

I have found I get less mpg from the cheaper garages, compared to paying a couple of cent more in the likes of Maxol. Ive always prefered using the Maxol in my area anyway. The difference between paying 134 for Maxol or 131 for a cheaper petrol equates to about a quarter of a litre in €20, or roughly 30c worth of petrol, so I really have no problem paying a little more for what Im happy with.

Gumbo

i tend to use Maxols E5

1. maxol is on my way home, i dont have to go out of my way
2. its cheaper than my local places
3. its supposed to be 99.2 ron

Barr

I always try and go to Texaco as it has Techron which helps the engine.

TestTransmission

kceire wrote: »

i tend to use Maxols E5

1. maxol is on my way home, i dont have to go out of my way
2. its cheaper than my local places
3. its supposed to be 99.2 ron

Exact same reasons,find it gets less mpg tho

mike65

The cheapest at any given time within easy reach.

SpannerMonkey

MYOB wrote: »

There is no such thing as 'brands' of petrol in Ireland, the raw fuel stock comes from one of two sources (Whitegate refinery or 'not refined in Ireland') and any post-delivery additives are inconsistantly applied even across the same brand name.

That maybe so but there is still big differences in the way a car runs on different brands I personally notice my car runs better on texaco and maxol than other brands and definately notice I get far less miles out of a tank from maxol

milly4ever

BP, total and maxol.

i find the supermarkets ones poor, so i wouldn't buy from there even though they are cheaper.

MunsterCycling

No such thing as a better brand, its all generic and as already posted either imported or from Whitegate

L1011

davy_b wrote: »

That maybe so but there is still big differences in the way a car runs on different brands I personally notice my car runs better on texaco and maxol than other brands and definately notice I get far less miles out of a tank from maxol

There may be a big difference on the way cars run on different "brands" but as I said, there aren't any "brands"!

All petrol sold in Ireland is E5 of varying blends, either the 99.2 octane blend produced in Whitegate or anywhere from 95 to 100 octane from abroad. The higher octane blends will generally give slightly lower MPG.

Most stations do not put any post-delivery additives in, Texaco at least claim to. But the raw fuel stock they're getting is either identical (if off Whitegate) or utterly inconsistant (but within the limits of what can be sold as 95 octane).

Its impossible to talk about "Topaz petrol" as a brand seeing as in different parts of the country it'll be coming from different sources, and so on.

SpannerMonkey

sorry im confused you admit cars run differently on different brands but then say they are no brands and are all the same i dont care if they are all from the same origin they all start off from the same origins under ground anyway with slightly different blends im asking what blend do you find best

MYOB wrote: »

There may be a big difference on the way cars run on different "brands" but as I said, there aren't any "brands"!

All petrol sold in Ireland is E5 of varying blends, either the 99.2 octane blend produced in Whitegate or anywhere from 95 to 100 octane from abroad. The higher octane blends will generally give slightly lower MPG.

Most stations do not put any post-delivery additives in, Texaco at least claim to. But the raw fuel stock they're getting is either identical (if off Whitegate) or utterly inconsistant (but within the limits of what can be sold as 95 octane).

Its impossible to talk about "Topaz petrol" as a brand seeing as in different parts of the country it'll be coming from different sources, and so on.

corktina

voted other....the only real difference is the marketing.

L1011

davy_b wrote: »

sorry im confused you admit cars run differently on different brands but then say they are no brands and are all the same i dont care if they are all from the same origin they all start off from the same origins under ground anyway with slightly different blends im asking what blend do you find best

How are you confused?

I said cars can run on different brands, but THERE ARE NO BRANDS in Ireland. There are no "blends" either, as such.

The petrol you get in Tesco one week and the petrol you get in Tesco the next week are not guaranteed to be the same blend. They're not guaranteed to be the same *octane* even.

Only places which use Whitehead-sourced E5 can guarantee an octane figure (and even then the specific blend used will vary based on climate and the like). And Whitehead only supplies about 30% of the usage of the country.

The majority of "my car runs better on X" cases are entirely pscyhological.

VinnyTGM

I find Maxol, Esso, Texaco etc sell similar fuels, I tried Tesco petrol once but never again. I prefer Maxol though, the engine seems to like it.

coolbeans

I think this is a bit pointless to be honest. Unless there is some rigour behind the assertions, and there isn't, the comparisons will inevitably be pretty useless.

MunsterCycling

Emm its Whitegate MYOB, our next door neighbour is a lab tech there and does the testing for the octane level & quality control etc...

Bandara

For the millionth time.

ITS. ALL. THE. SAME.













*smashes face off desk repeatedly.

MunsterCycling

LOL good God its Hammertime!

Matt Simis

Hammertime wrote: »

For the millionth time.

ITS. ALL. THE. SAME.

Ive asked you this in every petrol thread you commented on but you disappear after making the [self beneficial] case brand X is the same as "everyones" each time:

"What Octane rating and ethanol percentage does the fuel you sell (and "everyone") have?"


Only Maxol quote an Octane level and they quote considerably higher than the rest. Therefore its clearly not all the same. You as the business owner should possess an Ethanol % content tester at the very least.

From your previous posts I got the impression you were suggesting that as all fuel is/maybe E5, then its all the same, but that in itself is a fundamentally flawed ascertain.

L1011

Matt, E5 != an octane level. You can blend E5 to have anywhere from the low 90s to over 100 octane. The only guarantee you're going to get here is that its >95.

MunsterCycling wrote: »

Emm its Whitegate MYOB, our next door neighbour is a lab tech there and does the testing for the octane level & quality control etc...

I'm heading to NI in about 20 minutes and there's a Whitehead up there... thats my excuse!

challengemaster

Maxol E5 is great, just not really readily available anywhere outside of dublin/dublin area...

Texaco seems to be the best, and i've heard that it's the one cars are remapped using...must be something to it....

otherwise, it's a case of whatever's around tbh. Topaz is almost everywhere, so that's probably what gets used most.

Absurdum

I don't like Texaco purely because the ads are really stupid. Like some NYC taxi driver's opinion on gas matters to me, same with the dork in the RX7 :rolleyes:

TestTransmission

challengemaster wrote: »

Maxol E5 is great, just not really readily available anywhere outside of dublin/dublin area...

What's the dublin/dublin area?

Its available in plenty of places outside of Dublin,I'd say this page hasnt been updated in a while either.

http://www.maxol.ie/general-content/e5-stations.html

Matt Simis

MYOB wrote: »

Matt, E5 != an octane level. You can blend E5 to have anywhere from the low 90s to over 100 octane. The only guarantee you're going to get here is that its >95.

I went to great pains to make that very point in my own post?

Lets try again; Maxol "E5" is, by their production and marketing, 99.2octane.
Unless we want to make baseless accusations against the company, lets just accept that.

Topaz/Everyone "E5" (if it is) could also be 5% ethanol, but not necessarily 99.2 octane. The fact they dont call it that, in a commercial marketplace, would with a high degree of probability indicate that it is not the same 99.2 octane fuel as Maxol sell, its merely 95ish octane. Ergo, all fuel is not the same, ethanol content being a misleading substitute for octane facts when stated by certain petrol station owners.

langdang

Absurdum wrote: »

I don't like Texaco purely because the ads are really stupid. Like some NYC taxi driver's opinion on gas matters to me, same with the dork in the RX7 :rolleyes:

VERY irritating, up there with the "let's go to the ballsbridge hotel" radio ad. There must be eff all difference in the "blends" (petrol X + additive Y) if they are trying to sell Texaco as some sort of a lifestyle choice rather than on the basis of scientific experiments.

Maxol E5 seems to be available in every ballygobackwards Maxol in Limerick.

I won't buy petrol from banjo-country village pumps. The kind of places where you knock on the door and some old lady comes out wiping her hands on an apron and turns on the pump and takes your money. Maybe it's irrational, but I think that proper forecourts would have better, cleaner, newer tanks and pumps.

I won't buy petrol from the station near the lee fields in Cork, ye all saw how much water that area was under (it's not always that bad but floods are common there). Again, maybe it's impossible for water/silt to get into the tanks but there's plenty other stations that don't flood every winter....

kasper

off topic here a little bit ,i had a 02 laguna diesel for over two years twice in that two years i filled the car with tesco diesel and both times i got a injector fault light on the dash when i was about quarter way into the tank . it never happened with any other brand of diesel maybe it was coincidence . the two fills from tescos were months apart

sentient_6

I've been filling my car with tesco diesel for months now without a problem. If we've established for the most part all the fuel in ireland is more or less the same surely the problem is then the cleaniness of the tanks & pumps its going into? Which then as nothing to do with the brand of stations, maxol, tesco etc etc etc but just the individual stations themselves? Regardless of company?

kasper

i think tesco in mullingar is the newest filling station so they would have newer tanks ,i would think older tanks would have more chance of corrosion , but maybe someone here knows something about maintenace that might have to be carried periodically

Sandwlch

I only use Texaco because it has Techron in it. Its good for your engine. I even saw a cab driver from New York on TV the other day saying the same thing. And if anyone knows what petrol is best then its New York cab drivers. Fact. End of.

VinnyTGM

kasper wrote: »

i think tesco in mullingar is the newest filling station so they would have newer tanks ,i would think older tanks would have more chance of corrosion , but maybe someone here knows something about maintenace that might have to be carried periodically

I think each station has a regular inspection and maintenance carried out on each tank, not sure on the details though.

Absurdum

Sandwlch wrote: »

I only use Texaco because it has Techron in it. Its good for your engine. I even saw a cab driver from New York on TV the other day saying the same thing. And if anyone knows what petrol is best then its New York cab drivers. Fact. End of.

ya and I have a modified Mazda RX7 and a silly accent, I know cars!

JHMEG

MYOB wrote: »

Only places which use Whitehead-sourced E5

You mean E5 comes out of spots?!?!?!??:eek::eek::eek::eek:

Good job I washed my tank out with Biactol after using it!

JHMEG

I use mostly Tesco as I get clubcard points, most of which can be exchanged for 4 times face value tokens to use on Irish Ferries, Dublin Zoo, Legoland, Stena Line, the National Aquatic Centre etc etc etc.

Max Power1

mike65 wrote: »

The cheapest at any given time within easy reach.

^
This tbh

mikewest

As per Max Power1 and Mike65 cheapest on any given day with the exception of one filling station where they would have to pay me to fill up.

However in England I have found Shell super plus slightly better (incidently among manufacturer recommended)

L1011

kasper wrote: »

i think tesco in mullingar is the newest filling station so they would have newer tanks ,i would think older tanks would have more chance of corrosion , but maybe someone here knows something about maintenace that might have to be carried periodically

There's extensive filtering kit in the pumps themselves, so corrosion of tanks isn't going to lead to bits of rusty metal getting through.

Hammertime can probably remind me if there's generally a water seperator or not, I can't actually remember... but basically if the pumps are in proper working order, no crud from the tank will get through.

However based on the general rattiness of my local Tesco filling station I'd expect them to have the worst care and maintaince procedures going for their kit! And its the newest in the town by far too.

mb1725

Not sure about petrol so long since I used it but diesel seems to be the same all over. Had to pull in to Mitchelstown Amber Station this morning though, I hope the petrol is cleaner than the quite run-down pumps and forecourt!

Eric Cartman

Dont really mind, maxol and texaco would be my most common because there closest , but i never fill up at tesco , the 3 or 4 times ive used their diesel my jeep/van has started like a bag of hammers on a cold day , could be improper maintenence of their filters or some blending issue , dont know, all i know is its never happened with other stations

theshaft

Havnt seen ne mention of Apple Green which i like. Remember chatting to sum random mature student once who said the did a study in college to find the cleanest petrol. Said Topaz came out on top by a hair. Apple Green seemed to do quite well also. Told me to stay away from Tesco lol. I put Tesco in the tank once, nd even the smell of it put me off. Nd ive just heard a gud few bad stories about it. Not a huge amount of apple green around but they're always really well priced i find. Nd they're the ones opening those large service station on the M1 now aswell.

mullingar

theshaft wrote: »

Havnt seen ne mention of Apple Green which i like. Remember chatting to sum random mature student once who said the did a study in college to find the cleanest petrol. Said Topaz came out on top by a hair. Apple Green seemed to do quite well also. Told me to stay away from Tesco lol. I put Tesco in the tank once, nd even the smell of it put me off. Nd ive just heard a gud few bad stories about it. Not a huge amount of apple green around but they're always really well priced i find. Nd they're the ones opening those large service station on the M1 now aswell.

Im sure I am speaking for 99% of boards.ie members, please no text speak.

For those who don't understand text speak, your post should have been (The grammer still could be better):

I haven't seen any mention of Apple Green which I like. I remember chatting to some random mature student once who said the did a study in college to find the cleanest petrol, they said Topaz came out on top by a hair. Apple Green seemed to do quite well also. They told me to stay away from Tesco lol. I put Tesco in the tank once and even the smell of it put me off. I have recently heard many bad stories about it and there is not a large amount of Apple Green around but they're always really well priced I find and they are the ones opening those large service station on the M1 now as well.

djimi

For the love of god Mullingar thats pedantic to the extreme. I agree with you on the txt speak but that post was hardly illegible.

Gary ITR

mullingar wrote: »

Im sure I am speaking for 99% of boards.ie members, please no text speak.

For those who don't understand text speak, your post should have been (The grammer still could be better):

Please leave the moderating to the mods. Thanks

GTE

One think I will say is that there is this train of thought out there that each brand of petrol is different. Im not here to debate that because I dont care enough.

What i will say is that my Maxol station has been approached by people with blank tankers of fuel and they asked us if we wanted it. We were asked that and they said they would do it at the night time so no one say a non maxol truck/tank combo.

What the station owner told me is that if they did do that and someone had a problem with the fuel then they have to account for the fuel put inthe car. If there is no maxol delivery notice the garage is in the ****.

Relevant or not I decided to share

Bandara

bbk wrote: »

One think I will say is that there is this train of thought out there that each brand of petrol is different. Im not here to debate that because I dont care enough.

What i will say is that my Maxol station has been approached by people with blank tankers of fuel and they asked us if we wanted it. We were asked that and they said they would do it at the night time so no one say a non maxol truck/tank combo.

What the station owner told me is that if they did do that and someone had a problem with the fuel then they have to account for the fuel put inthe car. If there is no maxol delivery notice the garage is in the ****.

Relevant or not I decided to share

them 'people' are called the Provos.

Anan1

Hammertime wrote: »

them 'people' are called the Provos.

I think you may be a few years out of date there.;)

Bandara

Anan1 wrote: »

I think you may be a few years out of date there.;)

ok then, 'lowlife scum'

celticbest

The cheapest, I'm not running an Aston Martin or anything like it so I don't have to worry about it affecting performance.

LordSutch

I tend to get my petrol at Applegreen stations simply because its always cheaper there! By the way, I agree with all the previous comments re one 'brand' being exactly the same as another, but recently a petrol sttendant in an Applegreen station told me that although petrol was cheaper at their pumps, Texaco petrol was better :cool: I smiled & though to myself 'He's no Applegreen salesman'

Chippy01

+ 1 for AppleGreen.
I used to use Tesco, but because of thier 'you've got to take your helmet off' policy (even if you wear an open-face or flip-lid like I do), I moved to Applegreen. No such problems there.
For the past year or so I've been doing the same mileage every day, at roughly the same speed, and because of my bike's tank limitation, I have to refuel every day.
When I was using Tesco fuel I could use anywhere between 6 - 8 litres per day. I can imagine a slight fuel increase if running against a strong wind - but 2 litres worth? I don't think so!
Now I'm using AppleGreen my usage is between 6 - 6.5 litres per day.
Both stations are within 1/2 km of each other.

R.O.R

If I'm running out of fuel near work, then it's Topaz.

If I'm running out of fuel on the Motorway on the way home, it's Applegreen.

If I have enough to get to Tesco I'll head there for the points.

My last fill in Tesco didn't seem to give such great MPG, but that could have been down to crap traffic rather than the fuel.

Haven't noticed any difference in how the car runs whichever fuel is in it.