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Ireland has one of the highest cocaine death rates

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    #32
    Lemsiper
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    Biggins wrote: »
    No - due to confidentiality restrictions. You want the names and addresses of those involved in submitting reports to the Gardi?

    Only pulling your leg, mate. I know you can't do that.


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    #33
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Lemsiper wrote: »
    Only pulling your leg, mate. I know you can't do that.
    Fair enough.
    As acting chairman though of the local residential committee I get advised/informed as to many a going on in the area.
    Sadly some of those reports, some of which have come from Gardi sources, has only confirmed to me what I already witnessed myself and suspected also in other incidents.


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    #34
    mikemac
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    I know in mid-90s drug dealing was decreased dramatically, mainly down to dealers being brought out to mountains to be tortured and executed, I pray for these days again.

    Realy, was these the days the IRA claimed they were helping residents and fighting to keep drugs out.
    All along they were taking sides and trying to get a pay-off for themselves and eliminate opposition


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    #35
    fontanalis
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    A bit off topic but does anyone know if there are people who got addicted during the goodish times and are now struggling financially? With the supposed high usage, easy to become addicted and high unemployment now, shouldn't this be an issue?


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    #36
    Gerry Asstrix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Gerry Asstrix


    Lab_Mouse wrote: »
    Bullsh1t.:rolleyes:

    Ask Martin Cahill, PJ Judge and the dozens of others now lying in the ground with maggots crawling all over their corpses


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    #37
    steddyeddy
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    in fairnerss i would say its more the fact that the cocaine over here is cut with all sorts!


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    #38
    Gerry Asstrix
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    feelingstressed wrote: »
    Realy, was these the days the IRA claimed they were helping residents and fighting to keep drugs out.
    All along they were taking sides and trying to get a pay-off for themselves and eliminate opposition

    I await any proof or evidence you have to prove that the IRA or any republicans take pay offs from drug dealers.

    The first part was right though, they did help residents and kept drugs out.


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    #39
    Stercus Accidit
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    Luckily we will probably die from liver failure or lung cancer or a drunk driver or a stabbing in a pub before we might die from cocaine.

    Lets hope we are so lucky.


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    #40
    Fighting Irish
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Depressing news but something of not much of a shock to be honest.


    Source: http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Irish-cocaine-death-rate-tops-UN-report-98231824.html

    I honestly fear for my 4 young kids in the future.

    bring them up well and you'll be grand


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    #41
    Biggins
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    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    bring them up well and you'll be grand
    True, here's hoping. :)


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    #42
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    Whatever they use, a hard death to all them.

    A bit over the top to be honest.
    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    Yes I want all drug dealers and users to die, they are a plague on society and only offer burdon and misery, and as usual its the working class comunities that suffer the most from this problem.

    I know in mid-90s drug dealing was decreased dramatically, mainly down to dealers being brought out to mountains to be tortured and executed, I pray for these days again.

    To ALL drug users? No matter what that drug is?
    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    I await any proof or evidence you have to prove that the IRA or any republicans take pay offs from drug dealers.

    The first part was right though, they did help residents and kept drugs out.

    Lol, you're hilarious. You want proof of things that go against your argument, and statements that help your argument are fine... That's pretty funny.


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    #43
    flas
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    I await any proof or evidence you have to prove that the IRA or any republicans take pay offs from drug dealers.

    The first part was right though, they did help residents and kept drugs out.

    ever read the book mr.nice?! in it it tells of how it was the IRA in the south of the country who helped to smuggle vast amounts opf cannabis into ireland through shannon airport, and from ireland then onto the rest of europe. so yes the IRA have and still do have a massive interest in the drugs trade in this country. who is going to speak out against them?really? Was martin cahil ever caught for the beit robberies? no, but everyone and his uncle knows it was him.


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    #44
    IzzyWizzy
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    Doesn't bother me. If you don't want to take the small risk of dying from cocaine, don't take cocaine.


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    #45
    g5fd6ow0hseima
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    I wonder whats the death rate for people in countries where the cocaine is of decent quality and not cut with all sorts of uppers / downers / etc... Plus I feel its only the Irish and the English who would go snorting coke when already pissed out of their heads.

    How many of these deaths were on conjunction with alcohol? Of course that's probably hidden as nobody dies from alcohol, right?


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    #46
    Pace2008
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    I await any proof or evidence you have to prove that the IRA or any republicans take pay offs from drug dealers.
    Whether they did or didn't matters not a jot to me; they are absolute pond-life, and possibly the only organisation on this island more depraved than the drug gangs.

    I'm not sure how the figures are in any way worrying, OP. They seem vanishingly small.


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    #47
    Gerry Asstrix
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    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Whether they did or didn't matters not a jot to me; they are absolute pond-life and the only organisation on this island more depraved than the drug gangs.

    So you say, but at the end of the day they were and are men and women who for centuries have been spent years upon years in prison and died selflessly for Irish Unity and the defense of vunrable communities, I hardly call that pond life, what have you done for Ireland betterment lately?

    And the likes of Pearse, Clarke, Bobby Sands, are these also pond life?


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    #48
    Fighting Irish
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    So you say, but at the end of the day they were and are men and women who for centuries have been spent years upon years in prison and died selflessly for Irish Unity and the defense of vunrable communities, I hardly call that pond life, what have you done for Ireland betterment lately?

    And the likes of Pearse, Clarke, Bobby Sands, are these also pond life?

    The human race is going downhill because we think we need to help the weak


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    #49
    Pace2008
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    So you say, but at the end of the day they were and are men and women who for centuries have been spent years upon years in prison and died selflessly for Irish Unity and the defense of vunrable communities, I hardly call that pond life
    Comparing the IRA/IRB of the past to its current incarnation is disingenuous at best.
    what have you done for Ireland betterment lately?
    I haven't imported weapons or murdered anyone.


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    #50
    Gerry Asstrix
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    flas wrote: »
    ever read the book mr.nice?! in it it tells of how it was the IRA in the south of the country who helped to smuggle vast amounts opf cannabis into ireland through shannon airport, and from ireland then onto the rest of europe. so yes the IRA have and still do have a massive interest in the drugs trade in this country. who is going to speak out against them?really? Was martin cahil ever caught for the beit robberies? no, but everyone and his uncle knows it was him.

    Until you provide concrete proof that republicans of any shade are not revolutionaries but infact criminals who profit from drug dealing(a very serious allegation considering the IRA has lost hundreds of its members in conflict) then what you say is absolute bullsh*t.

    The book you give reference to is written by a man with no credibility due to his criminality, who has been exposed as an outright liar and fantasist probably down to his heavy use of drugs, there are many books like this, mainly by the likes of hacks Paul Williams who like you offer no proof other then from unnamed 'sources'.


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    #51
    Snowie
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    Blame the people who make 2 kilos into 4 :)


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    #52
    Gerry Asstrix
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    Pace2008 wrote: »
    Comparing the IRA/IRB of the past to its current incarnation is disingenuous at best.

    I haven't imported weapons or murdered anyone.

    The IRA/IRB of the past was hated by the likes of you in their day, so the IRA of today isnt put of by your spiteful attitude Im sure.

    And the Brits imported thousands of guns into Ireland to terrorize, why shouldnt Irish be allowed import arms to defend themselves?


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    #53
    charlemont
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    bet the cops and anti everything brigade are delighted now....:rolleyes:


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    #54
    fontanalis
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    So you say, but at the end of the day they were and are men and women who for centuries have been spent years upon years in prison and died selflessly for Irish Unity and the defense of vunrable communities, I hardly call that pond life, what have you done for Ireland betterment lately?

    And the likes of Pearse, Clarke, Bobby Sands, are these also pond life?


    woo hoo
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McCartney_(murder_victim)


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    #55
    dr.bollocko
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    So you say, but at the end of the day they were and are men and women who for centuries have been spent years upon years in prison and died selflessly for Irish Unity and the defense of vunrable communities, I hardly call that pond life, what have you done for Ireland betterment lately?

    And the likes of Pearse, Clarke, Bobby Sands, are these also pond life?
    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    Until you provide concrete proof that republicans of any shade are not revolutionaries but infact criminals who profit from drug dealing(a very serious allegation considering the IRA has lost hundreds of its members in conflict) then what you say is absolute bullsh*t.

    The book you give reference to is written by a man with no credibility due to his criminality, who has been exposed as an outright liar and fantasist probably down to his heavy use of drugs, there are many books like this, mainly by the likes of hacks Paul Williams who like you offer no proof other then from unnamed 'sources'.
    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    The IRA/IRB of the past was hated by the likes of you in their day, so the IRA of today isnt put of by your spiteful attitude Im sure.

    And the Brits imported thousands of guns into Ireland to terrorize, why shouldnt Irish be allowed import arms to defend themselves?
    Right.
    This stops now.
    The IRA is an illegal terrorist organisation with innocent blood on its hands. It is recognised as such in Ireland and the UK.
    If you post in this thread again I will ban you.


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    #56
    Gerry Asstrix
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    fontanalis wrote: »
    woo hoo
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_McCartney_(murder_victim)

    I agree a murder carried out by former republicans who now administer British rule in Ireland and get paid handsomely for it


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    #57
    dr.bollocko
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    ...
    And banned.


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    #58
    dr.bollocko
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    There is no point in asking him questions folks. He's banned.
    Now please return to topic.


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    #59
    Lab_Mouse
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    Gerry Asstrix wrote: »
    Ask Martin Cahill, PJ Judge and the dozens of others now lying in the ground with maggots crawling all over their corpses
    Didnt stop the dealing though did it?

    EDIT:only seen he was banned now sorry


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    ntlbell
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    Biggins wrote: »
    I honestly fear for my 4 young kids in the future.

    I fear for them because they'll be paying huge amounts of money for really poor quality cocaine.


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    #61
    Predalien
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    Dravokivich wrote: »
    So that's about 8 deaths as a result of cocaine abuse for every million ?

    ...not that many really.

    Well, not everyone in the country does cocaine so it's about 30 deaths per year amongst coke users who number about 50,000, so it is quite high. Some fairly shocking figures here from the dublin coroners court
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0111/cocaine.html


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