Halfords Own Brand Oil?

nogoodnamesleft

I was in Halfords recently and was looking around at what oil they stock. Now they have all the usual branded oil there Castrol, Helix etc etc in 4 litre containers.

They also had however their own Halfords branded oil for BMW, Audi, VW etc. As I was curious as its about 50quid for 5 liters for (VW 507.00 - Longlife Spec oil) I had a look at the back of the continers for each. For the VW it was approved for longlife and also had the SAE spec similarly for BMW they also had accredited spec oil for their services.

http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_11101_catalogId_15551_productId_498809_langId_-1_categoryId_212419


Do any of ye know who blends it for them?
Or are any of ye follow board members using it currently in your cars?
Any difference over branded oil, running better/ worse, fuel consumption increase/decrease?

GTE

50 quid seems a lot for Halfords brand.

My shop has Total Quarts 9000 and Elf Solaris(sp) that meets a raft of VW standards (I didnt take note of other brands) for under 50 quid.

theshaft

id never put that overpriced halfords muck in my engine. i use carlube oils for every part of my car that needs a fluid. i find it fantastic and very well priced. i buy it from rathgar motor factors. carlube have a very handy oil checker if u select your vehicle options. even tells u the right diff, gearbox power steering fluid etc to use if they have it in their database. http://www.carlube.co.uk

GTE

theshaft wrote: »

id never put that overpriced halfords muck in my engine. i use carlube oils for every part of my car that needs a fluid. i find it fantastic and very well priced. i buy it from rathgar motor factors. carlube have a very handy oil checker if u select your vehicle options. even tells u the right diff, gearbox power steering fluid etc to use if they have it in their database. http://www.carlube.co.uk

Just checked my car on that and it shows up with a semi synth oil for the engine despite a VW service bulletin a few years back about only using fully synth in the diesel engines.

Its a nice service they provide there though.

robtri

theshaft wrote: »

id never put that overpriced halfords muck in my engine. i use carlube oils for every part of my car that needs a fluid. i find it fantastic and very well priced. i buy it from rathgar motor factors. carlube have a very handy oil checker if u select your vehicle options. even tells u the right diff, gearbox power steering fluid etc to use if they have it in their database. http://www.carlube.co.uk

So why is Halfords oil "muck", even though it meets every standard required for the cars... and this carlube own brand stuff is "Fantastic".....

theshaft

robtri wrote: »

So why is Halfords oil "muck", even though it meets every standard required for the cars... and this carlube own brand stuff is "Fantastic".....

just because it meets a standard doesn't mean its as good an oil. a standard is just a benchmark which in fairness won't be hard to meet. you can have 2 different brands of oil which say they're the same but will have differant appearances and textures. certain brands are better at heat dissipation and take longer to break down and leave less of a buildup of unwanted substances.

nogoodnamesleft

bbk wrote: »

50 quid seems a lot for Halfords brand.

My shop has Total Quarts 9000 and Elf Solaris(sp) that meets a raft of VW standards (I didnt take note of other brands) for under 50 quid.

Are they in 4 or 5 litre containers? I usually find that most branded motor oils are supplied in 4 litre containers necessitating in having to buy more for tops.

zilog_jones

People on the internet say the Halfords stuff is manufactured by Esso and is very similar or the same as some Comma branded stuff. But they also say you can get better deals elsewhere...

Gers_punto

halfords oil is produced by COMMA oil

SV

theshaft wrote: »

id never put that overpriced halfords muck in my engine.

It´s not much different than most of the oils you´d see for sale. Don´t be a snob ffs.

MidlandsM

Gers_punto wrote: »

halfords oil is produced by COMMA oil

+1 , and its not muck but decent stuff.:)

theshaft

SV wrote: »

It´s not much different than most of the oils you´d see for sale. Don´t be a snob ffs.

i get feedback from wud u believe, honest guys in the motor trade. they wudnt touch the stuff. its not being a snob, its researching the best quality oil for the best price. and im sorry, but thats halfords

robtri

theshaft wrote: »

just because it meets a standard doesn't mean its as good an oil. a standard is just a benchmark which in fairness won't be hard to meet. you can have 2 different brands of oil which say they're the same but will have differant appearances and textures. certain brands are better at heat dissipation and take longer to break down and leave less of a buildup of unwanted substances.

that wasnt the question.. why is Halford MUCK and Carlube so Fantastic...

can you show me where carlubes exceeds the halfords brand one??

robtri

theshaft wrote: »

i get feedback from wud u believe, honest guys in the motor trade. they wudnt touch the stuff. its not being a snob, its researching the best quality oil for the best price. and im sorry, but thats halfords

so you have researched this then??? cool can you let us know why its muck....

most guys i know in the trade hav no problems witht he halford stuff, they all mainly use the cheapest stuff that fits the requirements of the car unless customer asks for a special brand...

theshaft

robtri wrote: »

that wasnt the question.. why is Halford MUCK and Carlube so Fantastic...

can you show me where carlubes exceeds the halfords brand one??

no problem, just have to go to argos first and buy 1 those chemistry sets for kids. should have all the stuff i need. oh, and then easons for a log book, very important for all the results

Henry Ford III

Their Classic 20/w50 is good, and well priced.

si_guru

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Their Classic 20/w50 is good, and well priced.

That's what I put in the Land Rover. I think ti is the cheapest oil you can buy round here too!

I miss ADSA oil.... 6 quid.

GTE

nogoodnamesleft wrote: »

Are they in 4 or 5 litre containers? I usually find that most branded motor oils are supplied in 4 litre containers necessitating in having to buy more for tops.

The Total is 5 litres and Im not too sure about the Elf.

Blut2

I got 5litres of Halfords 10w40 oil a couple weeks ago for €23 I think on special offer, cant really complain at a price like that. From researching it on the internet beforehand the consensus seems to be its at worst average oil.

robtri

theshaft wrote: »

no problem, just have to go to argos first and buy 1 those chemistry sets for kids. should have all the stuff i need. oh, and then easons for a log book, very important for all the results

no offence but you posted you already researched and looked into this...

you quote halfords as muck..
all i am asking is for you to show me why its muck....
and how carlube is better...
i think that a reasonable request...

*Kol*

theshaft wrote: »

id never put that overpriced halfords muck in my engine. i use carlube oils for every part of my car that needs a fluid. i find it fantastic and very well priced. i buy it from rathgar motor factors. carlube have a very handy oil checker if u select your vehicle options. even tells u the right diff, gearbox power steering fluid etc to use if they have it in their database. http://www.carlube.co.uk

Bet you are sorry you posted that now. Can you show us the fantastic results from your honest car trade scientists while you are posting up the research results for the Halfords oil please?

SV

theshaft wrote: »

i get feedback from wud u believe, honest guys in the motor trade. they wudnt touch the stuff. its not being a snob, its researching the best quality oil for the best price. and im sorry, but thats halfords

You´re a bit clueless aren´t you?

theshaft

how about i just show you my genitals instead. no honestly i dont care what you ppl use. surely u must have more interesting issues in life than to request proof and results on sum1s statings of oil. im bored of this now

SV

theshaft wrote: »

how about i just show you my genitals instead. no honestly i dont care what you ppl use. surely u must have more interesting issues in life than to request proof and results on sum1s statings of oil. im bored of this now

Here´s a better idea, Don´t claim something that´s a load of bullshít and then back off when you realise you don´t really know what you´re talking about and just assumed people would agree with you..eh?

theshaft

ah lad dnt have a period, i came in here never takin it seriously, not lukin 4 ppls appoval. lol, man i never new how serious every1 tuk all this. i hope we dnt need to get jerry springer to sort this out :rolleyes:

SilverBell

si_guru wrote: »

That's what I put in the Land Rover. I think ti is the cheapest oil you can buy round here too!

I miss ADSA oil.... 6 quid.

I used the ASDA oil for a few changes, on my own Merc, and me dads polo.
However I noticed mayonnaise build up on the oil cap and rocker cover of both engines, so I stopped using it.

r3nu4l

theshaft wrote: »

ah lad dnt have a period, i came in here never takin it seriously, not lukin 4 ppls appoval. lol, man i never new how serious every1 tuk all this. i hope we dnt need to get jerry springer to sort this out :rolleyes:

In fairness, if you make a claim that one oil is superior to another and can't back that up with anything firm then you're making yourself look a bit foolish.

Did you just say the Halford's stuff was muck simply because its Halford's or have you read something to say it's muck? People here are genuinely interested and if you have a link to something showing the Halford's stuff is poor quality or poorer than carlube then share it.

If it's just some vague opinion you have with no backup then that's just a bit silly really. No harm admitting that you were just shouting the odds with nothing to back it up, then we can move on. However if you can back it up, we'd genuinely love to see the proof because it informs our decisions when buying.

Eoin

theshaft - please tone down both the language and the text speak.

mickdw

Its pretty silly how most sell in 4L cans now. I was looking at castrol edge, €17 for the additional litre that I would need. I bought a 5L Mobil 1 instead.

Matt Simis

mickdw wrote: »

Its pretty silly how most sell in 4L cans now. I was looking at castrol edge, €17 for the additional litre that I would need. I bought a 5L Mobil 1 instead.

Tesco have/had Magnatec fully synth for around EUR11 for 2litres. Worked out alot cheaper than buying 4l bottles.

The problem with Halfords Oil is its way too expensive, there is minimal (to negative saving if the brands are on offer) difference. Id rather pay the very minimal extra for Mobil 1 or Castrol over Halfords or Comma or Esso for that matter.

Bearcat

May I indulge and give you my experience of halfords oil.....we run a toyota vx landcruiser as a daily. It has a 4.2 diesel up front and needs its oil changed every 6k, (thats the reason why they go forever). I decided I'd put halfords own semi syn diesel oil in her, it nearly takes 12 litres so I decided to go cheap......by 5k I knew she was cryin for an oil change....what came out of the sump was like water.....halfors oil is desperate muck.....I put back in a branded semi syn 5-40....no compliants since.....avoid halfords own stuff, pure shoite and I've been around the block enought to know....

Donnelly117

theshaft wrote: »

just because it meets a standard doesn't mean its as good an oil. a standard is just a benchmark which in fairness won't be hard to meet. you can have 2 different brands of oil which say they're the same but will have differant appearances and textures. certain brands are better at heat dissipation and take longer to break down and leave less of a buildup of unwanted substances.

unless your putting this oil into a bugatti veyron or something i really dont think it makes a whole lot of difference.

GTE

Donnelly117 wrote: »

unless your putting this oil into a bugatti veyron or something i really dont think it makes a whole lot of difference.

In about 2000 when VAG released the PD TDI it had an exacting oil spec which has been ignored for one reason or another and now owners are paying the price with engine wear, turbo failures and some other problems. Fantastically reliable engines if the right oil was used but problems when it wasn't.

Although for the most part the oil on the market is grand Im sure some arent as good as others and Ive read a lot about manufacturers printing the standards on when they never got them met.

I think we are well past the time where engines could take a lot of abuse in this area. Id always make sure VW spec, Toyota spec and Peugeot spec oil is used across the familys cars. I would never put any old oil in. It makes sense in the longer run.

So no Veyrons but a few Skoda's and the likes.

PaulKK

mickdw wrote: »

Its pretty silly how most sell in 4L cans now. I was looking at castrol edge, €17 for the additional litre that I would need. I bought a 5L Mobil 1 instead.

I feel your pain buddy, I need 5.5L so its a real pain in the ass. Luckily last time halfrauds were doing a free 1L when buying a 4L so just had to buy 1 extra 1L.
The 15% discount with axa card is most useful in there too


Call me an oil snob or whatever, but I only ever use Castrol.
I've used GTX, magnetec and now edge 0w30 in my current and never had any problems. I always do 5k - 8k mile oil and filter changes though

GTE

PaulKK wrote: »

I feel your pain buddy, I need 5.5L so its a real pain in the ass. Luckily last time halfrauds were doing a free 1L when buying a 4L so just had to buy 1 extra 1L.
The 15% discount with axa card is most useful in there too


Call me an oil snob or whatever, but I only ever use Castrol.
I've used GTX, magnetec and now edge 0w30 in my current and never had any problems. I always do 5k - 8k mile oil and filter changes though

How is the 0w30 doing you for cold starts? Im half pondering it. Along with one of those oil sucky yokes so you can do oil changes without raising the car.

PaulKK

bbk wrote: »

How is the 0w30 doing you for cold starts? Im half pondering it. Along with one of those oil sucky yokes so you can do oil changes without raising the car.

Well I have new glow plugs in it to be honest but she is firing well. I've had 0w30 in it from the start so I can't compare it to anything.

I wouldn't bother with those oil pump things, i just don't think they are as good as draining properly and giving it a little flush with a small bit of fresh oil.

Is the undertray still on your golf? I always changed the oil in my old passat without raising the car no probs

If you must raise the car you could pick up a set of metal ramps for about 30 quid at a car boot sale or something, I have a set and they are dead handy.

AFAIK, the 0w30 is just mainly for vehicles that require really low soot/emissions to avoid DPF damage, so if the 5w30 is cheaper I'd prob stick with that.. the 320d can use that too, but I like to treat mine.

Voodoomelon

mickdw wrote: »

Its pretty silly how most sell in 4L cans now. I was looking at castrol edge, €17 for the additional litre that I would need. I bought a 5L Mobil 1 instead.

You must have just missed their last deal about 6 weeks ago, buy 4 litres of 0w30 EDGE and get a litre free. Good deal, I got 7 litres for €75.

I told the BMW dealer about it (when I was in for parts) before I went to Halfords and he wouldn't match it, he was nearly 50% dearer!

bryaner

Bearcat wrote: »

May I indulge and give you my experience of halfords oil.....we run a toyota vx landcruiser as a daily. It has a 4.2 diesel up front and needs its oil changed every 6k, (thats the reason why they go forever). I decided I'd put halfords own semi syn diesel oil in her, it nearly takes 12 litres so I decided to go cheap......by 5k I knew she was cryin for an oil change....what came out of the sump was like water.....halfors oil is desperate muck.....I put back in a branded semi syn 5-40....no compliants since.....avoid halfords own stuff, pure shoite and I've been around the block enought to know....

Please explain how it was crying for an oil change?

Bandara

haven't read the whole thread I'm just picking on one point I saw.

ANYONE who pays €50 for an own brand oil is off their rocker.

I'm currently selling a 4.5l own brand 10w/40 semi synth for €20. And I'm making 6 quid a bottle.

€50 is dick turpin stuff

GTE

PaulKK wrote: »

Well I have new glow plugs in it to be honest but she is firing well. I've had 0w30 in it from the start so I can't compare it to anything.

I wouldn't bother with those oil pump things, i just don't think they are as good as draining properly and giving it a little flush with a small bit of fresh oil.


Is the undertray still on your golf? I always changed the oil in my old passat without raising the car no probs


If you must raise the car you could pick up a set of metal ramps for about 30 quid at a car boot sale or something, I have a set and they are dead handy.

The 0wShizzle is quite popular in really cold parts of the US and it would do no harm here. My car had the usual coolant temp sensor problem and it started much better afterwards, more suitable oil for the cold would be nice for the engine. Im pretty sure VW have passed a few 0wSomethings for the VE's.

Ahh, Im ever so lazy and love the gadgets. There are two Draper ones in the shop that are gawking at me every time I pass . . .:mad:

The undertray is still there, although beaten up. Ive been down there to retrieve a phone I dropped in there when I slipped on ice Ill do it the proper way in the end. My notions never last too long.

but I like to treat mine.

I aim to have my car outlive me lol

Thanks.

PaulKK

bbk wrote: »

The 0wShizzle is quite popular in really cold parts of the US and it would do no harm here. My car had the usual coolant temp sensor problem and it started much better afterwards, more suitable oil for the cold would be nice for the engine. Im pretty sure VW have passed a few 0wSomethings for the VE's.

Ahh, Im ever so lazy and love the gadgets. There are two Draper ones in the shop that are gawking at me every time I pass . . .:mad:

The undertray is still there, although beaten up. Ive been down there to retrieve a phone I dropped in there when I slipped on ice Ill do it the proper way in the end. My notions never last too long.


I aim to have my car outlive me lol

Thanks.

No problem, if you want the car to outlive you I'd be more concerned with getting fresh oil into it more regularly tbh.

Just checked there btw and 0w30 and 5w30 are the same price, if the golf isn't burning much I'd go with the 0w30, certainly won't do any harm.

GTE

PaulKK wrote: »

No problem, if you want the car to outlive you I'd be more concerned with getting fresh oil into it more regularly tbh.

Just checked there btw and 0w30 and 5w30 are the same price, if the golf isn't burning much I'd go with the 0w30, certainly won't do any harm.

Im looking into more regular changes too.
As far as I can tell its not burning any oil. Apparently the VE is a good engine for that.

Service due in the next 1000 miles so Ill provide some oil to the garage or something.

Anyway, Ive hijacked this enough

samsemtex

I got 5 litres of Mobil 1 10W40 in halfords a few weeks ago for €23. Hard to argue with that as it was apparently one of mobil's highest spec oils.

STOKESY_01

as mentioned above Halfords oil manufactured by Comma! Just as good as anything else out there

MojoMaker

theshaft wrote: »

how about i just show you my genitals instead. no honestly i dont care what you ppl use. surely u must have more interesting issues in life than to request proof and results on sum1s statings of oil. im bored of this now

Of course you are. Cos you were caught talking complete bollocks

Nonoperational

There's some right rubbish being spouted on this thread.

How did you know the car was crying out for an oil change? It is also very unusual for used oil to come out like water, never seen it myself. Maybe it's a characteristic of your engine but most used oil is thicker and blacker.

It's not like the lads in halfords are in the back mixing up ****e oil, they get it made for them and it conforms to the standards on the bottle.

-Corkie-

I think anything halfords is sh1te. Argos is the very same.

Nonoperational

What a ridiculous comment. Anything in halfords or argos is Sh1te. Right.

-Corkie-

gpf101 wrote: »

What a ridiculous comment. Anything in halfords or argos is Sh1te. Right.

Its all cheap tacky crap.

Guy:Incognito

SARASON wrote: »

Its all cheap tacky crap.

So an epson printer bought in Argos is cheap tacky crap but if you buy it online its grand?

Neither Argos of Halfords manufacture stuff, they are resellers.

Mycroft H

Bought the Halfords semi-synth stuff before and its totally fine. No difference between castrol gtx that was in before it.


Couldnt notice the difference between the oils i used


IMO most of the semi-synth oils on the market are much of a muchness with not a lot of difference between them. Such people who dismiss it are badge snobs, the sorta people that dismiss kia or a skoda because of the badge