C16 - Limbo List

heffomike54

1986j wrote: »

I am all passed and cleared. Got the 'Non March 2011' progressing letter. Though circa 700 on merit list I could be in for a long wait.

Actually started a new job recently and all I can think about is the PSNI lol

Yeah you might be high on the merit list but the fact that everything is cleared for you could swing it for you, thats a huge blessing.

pma1983

Perhaps someone else could give appointments a ring to establish some info? We could start a tally of how many people have been told - yes there is an intake coming, or - no there isn't! haha

stillhopful

So how many people are there on here that are like PMA and myself? Medical Passed, vetting cleared with a merit below 100?

Just getting restless with all the waiting!!

JP84

I am NRC, medical and vetting passed but merit of 120-140. Doubt i'll be in the December intake......if there is one!!

ItShouldBeMe

You're still in a good position JP... medical and vetting passed is a big positive, and you have a low enough merit listing.

I got the 'Non March' progressing letter and was hoping that my vetting had cleared, apart from that I'm NRC with merit of 170-180... I thought i was in a healthy position untill I saw you have cleared everything and far lower merit! Cheer up... it may come sooner than you think!

Greasy

ItShouldBeMe wrote: »

You're still in a good position JP... medical and vetting passed is a big positive, and you have a low enough merit listing.

I got the 'Non March' progressing letter and was hoping that my vetting had cleared, apart from that I'm NRC with merit of 170-180... I thought i was in a healthy position untill I saw you have cleared everything and far lower merit! Cheer up... it may come sooner than you think!

I'm in a pretty similar position- merit is 170-180 and vetting hasn't been cleared yet. Have you had a medical yet? Mine is in a few weeks....

FootyFan24

ItShouldBeMe wrote: »

You're still in a good position JP... medical and vetting passed is a big positive, and you have a low enough merit listing.

I got the 'Non March' progressing letter and was hoping that my vetting had cleared, apart from that I'm NRC with merit of 170-180... I thought i was in a healthy position untill I saw you have cleared everything and far lower merit! Cheer up... it may come sooner than you think!

Strange, I'm a NRC with a similar score (160-170) and I didn't get the 'Non March' letter, I got the 'you are through to the next stage (vetting and medical)'. Oh and it did say not to harass staff (though I did email last week - vetting 'still ongoing'). I find it very frustrating as my first attempt was in 2003 and this is my best year yet (last time I was around 850). Still, keep working the gym to keep in shape!

JP84

take it no-one has had any calls then? really frustrates me that someone somewhere knows if we're going to get called but yet we all sit around wondering and waiting!! i Just want to know either way!! is that really too much to ask????

stillhopful

JP84 wrote: »

take it no-one has had any calls then? really frustrates me that someone somewhere knows if we're going to get called but yet we all sit around wondering and waiting!! i Just want to know either way!! is that really too much to ask????

Maybe its a test, they do say patience is a virtue!?!

Stoic_Copper

Well looks like a november intake is out. Its too late on I think. But since none of us have gotten letters or calls, I can assume that there is nothing going on until the new year, as I hear they don't do Decembers. Correct me if I am wrong here. So looks like we are looking at January. But who really knows, although I do think that someone out there does, and for some reason just can't say. I find it comforting that we are together in that. And I still that the motto, "No news is good news". Although its hard to feel good about that after its been quite a while now. Anyone feel the same? Perhaps, we should do a Christmas party or something. But I have a feeling it would be a dit of a downer. hehe. Keep the posts coming!!:P

TangoVictor

Stoic, don't give up hope on a Dec intake just yet!

wonderboy86

the last letter i got was saying medical passed and that recruitment would be contact soon, vetting is still "ongoing" so hopefully if there is a intake on Jan that we get that call but its looking unlikely as guys already have al passed. and am starting to hate the job am in as its not what i want to do in life!! :eek::pac:

ItShouldBeMe

Greasy wrote: »

I'm in a pretty similar position- merit is 170-180 and vetting hasn't been cleared yet. Have you had a medical yet? Mine is in a few weeks....

Yeah greasy, i had mine back at start of July and then had pass letter around a week later!:) Thought that my vetting might have cleared by now but apparently its still outstanding.. I have done all the forms and sent them away etc so im assuming this means its still ongoing! Good to hear that the medicals are starting again though.. My medical forms cost me £80 in my local GP clinic for my GP to process it, expensive enough when i wasnt sure if the budget was in place for us to go through!

Delancey

£80 is a total rip-off , someone got screwed the same way last year - must be the same GP :mad:

Greasy

80 quid. That's steep! Mine only cost a tenner. I read on the policing board website that the recruitment cost per officer is £10000, didn't think it would be as much as that. Just shows how expensive the vetting and medicals are.

ItShouldBeMe

delancey42 wrote: »

£80 is a total rip-off , someone got screwed the same way last year - must be the same GP :mad:

Yea i thought the same myself, but looking at it now so long as i get the call in the next few months i believe it will all be worth it! Feel lucky to be where i am as this is my first campaign!!

gigity gigity

Totally agree about it being worth it but the doctor must of been having a laugh.

TangoVictor

Greasy wrote: »

80 quid. That's steep! Mine only cost a tenner. I read on the policing board website that the recruitment cost per officer is £10000, didn't think it would be as much as that. Just shows how expensive the vetting and medicals are.

I'd have thought that would include all associated training costs i.e Garnerville. I can't see how they could justify spending that on each candidate before they even qualify for training, considering the very few who are offered a place?

Could be wrong though!

ItShouldBeMe

TangoVictor wrote: »

I'd have thought that would include all associated training costs i.e Garnerville. I can't see how they could justify spending that on each candidate before they even qualify for training, considering the very few who are offered a place?

Could be wrong though!

I agree, especially when you take into account that training is paid.. and at 21 weeks straight, you may find that wages alone are close to this amount!

Delancey

TangoVictor wrote: »

I'd have thought that would include all associated training costs i.e Garnerville. I can't see how they could justify spending that on each candidate before they even qualify for training, considering the very few who are offered a place?

Could be wrong though!

Not only is there vetting and medicals but the very substantial cost of Deloitte's services which I would imagine don't come cheap plus hire of premises for IST and AC , etc.

I think the £10,000 figure is the cost of each successful candidate and includes cost of unsuccessful ones .
Example - 1,000 apply , total cost of campaign/recruitment process is £1,000,000 - that's a thousand per candidate , 100 appointed which means £10,000 per appointed candidate.
Hope you can follow that

TangoVictor

Take C8 which was the last complete campaign as of 2009. There were 1981 who applied and of those only 103 were appointed* (0.05%)
If the overall cost was c£10,000 per applicant the cost of C8 would have been £19,810,000, this would result in mass civil unrest amongst the tax-paying folk I'd imagine

Or, 103 * £10,000 = £103,000. Which I think is more feasible. Granted IST, AC sessions and Consensia admin fee's would be significant, I couldn't see the medical (for example) costing more than say £250; effictively a physical and a glorified haircut. :rolleyes:

*It is not known if 'Appointed' refers to those candidates who were attested into the service or appointed to PSNI as Student Officers at Garnerville, although personally I take it to mean 'Attested'

-TV

EDIT: to add, I really don't have a clue but the £10,000 is obviously a very ball figure which would fluctuate from year to year and would be an overall cost of the total campaign worked out into a cost for x appointed constables. The view the public would likely take is "You had a campaign this year, how many officers were appointed and based on the this what was the total cost for each appointment"

pathway

delancey42 wrote: »

Not only is there vetting and medicals but the very substantial cost of Deloitte's services which I would imagine don't come cheap plus hire of premises for IST and AC , etc.

I think the £10,000 figure is the cost of each successful candidate and includes cost of unsuccessful ones .
Example - 1,000 apply , total cost of campaign/recruitment process is £1,000,000 - that's a thousand per candidate , 100 appointed which means £10,000 per appointed candidate.
Hope you can follow that

Nice maths. Makes sense.

Delancey

You certainly explain it better than me TV .

I think the medical is a lot more than 250 - I believe the SMT is quite expensive for instance , I understand that if an applicant wishes to appeal a failed SMT result they can expect to pay up to £500 for an independent test of the second sample - that figure came from a pretty reliable source.

TangoVictor

Sorry, just to add there that the figures I have quoted are total female applicants only, so say what a third of the grand total? (Using a very approximate rule of thumb and not sexism before I get slaughtered!):)

Delancey, never would thought the SMT to be so expensive; clearly im applying for the wrong job! :D

- tv

c1964

I love the way you simplify everything Delancey, pure brilliance on your part. Keep up the great work

TangoVictor

I can assume that there is nothing going on until the new year, as I hear they don't do Decembers

Just had a look around, there was an intake in December 2008 so its not unheard of at all. Allowing four weeks notice from call to start, calls could technically not go out for another 3 weeks. (I believe last Dec intake started shortly after Christmas)

Hope that puts some peoples minds to rest!

- tv

Stoic_Copper

That's mad! Mine cost nothing. My GP was pretty good about it though. I'll keep my thoughts positive for an intake soon! At least he forum is jumpin!

ItShouldBeMe

C16 calls have started for those of you who havent been looking at the other forums! Have a look at "stage 5- Im in"! Congrats to all those who have or are about to receive the call!!

Ash1008

I got the March 2011 letter, but I've still had no mention of vetting or medical yet!

urbantiger

NRC, decent merit number, medical passed, vetting ongoing last time I checked but a relative has just moved house so I'm assuming that will hold things back a bit.
Couldn't focus for the couple of days last week the calls were going out!
I'm assuming that if intakes are approximately 5-6 weeks apart that we can expect more calls going out in about 5-6 weeks time?
I know we can only guess but has that been the norm before?
I'm dying with anticipation, as I'm sure many of you are.
Can't wait to get meeting some of you guys if all goes well.
Any congrats to everyone who got a call or a pack last week!