What do you think of Paddy Power the bookmaker?

sxt

Paddy Power is on radio shows alot recently which is fair enough seeing as the world cup is on now and he is a very personable guy but I think he is trying very hard to come across as just a regular Joe Dublin who likes a bet, which he is most certainly not. Always being self deprecating and mentioning tales in a jovial manner of how the punters "have got one over them/the bookies"


I actually swallowed a bit of my own sick one the last time when he gave the impression that he doesn't have a clue about who to bet on in the world cup, but gave a tip anyway and said fair play to the trainers of horses who made "millions" to get one up on the bookies , as if he was the local lad down the pub raisng his fist in defiance.

I don' bet by the way so it ain't sour grapes. Just my impression.

amacachi

Bookies never lose.

PeterIanStaker

Its a mug's game. The house always wins.

Celly Smunt

nice bloke like

Biggins

Paddy Power?
He leaves a bitter taste in the mouth with me but some like him enough to raise a glass to him!

AnonoBoy

sxt wrote: »

I don' bet by the way so it ain't sour grapes.

You do bet don't you? It is sour grapes isn't it?

Mint Sauce

not alot, he has some of my money

orourkeda

he seems grand

Poor Uncle Tom

....never made a book in his life...

Celly Smunt

orourkeda wrote: »

he seems grand

a little 2 grand

Paparazzo

Here's a tip: Stay away from paddypower.com and use betfair.

Biggins

Paparazzo wrote: »

Here's a tip: Stay away from paddypower.com and use betfair.

Here's a tip: STAY AWAY FROM BOTH! :cool:

Keep your money for drinks and clean hookers!

MistyCheese

Paddy Power?

Great name for an Irish Pride parade.

Which would surely have to be sponsored by Irish Pride.

Paparazzo

Biggins wrote: »

Here's a tip: STAY AWAY FROM BOTH! :cool:

Keep your money for drinks and clean hookers!

But you can't lose with betfair

ejmaztec

Biggins wrote: »

Keep your money for drinks and clean hookers!

You bet.

sxt

I genuinely thought that this guy on the radio taking about bets was some radio jock who was abit clueless on sport but genuinely liked to see people getting one over the bookies .and I was enjoying the tales until I heard it was the billionaire Paddy power himself.

myflipflops

sxt wrote: »

I actually swallowed a bit of my own sick one the last time when he gave the impression that he doesn't have a clue about who to bet on in the world cup, .

He doesn't.

He's the main marketing executive for a PLC company that his father named after him. He doesn't own the company and has nothing to do with it's trading. He knows no more about what to bet on than the next bloke on the street.

He's a top class PR guy though and quite a nice bloke. Some of the abuse he gets on the street would have caused fights with other people.

sxt wrote: »

the billionaire Paddy power himself.

Definately worth a few quid but probable 995 million away from billionaire status.

He does not own the company.

sxt

Do you think he is being genuine on the radio though? You will hear alot of tales of people winning , famous /improbable /funny etc.

Biggins

sxt wrote: »

Do you think he is being genuine on the radio though? You will hear alot of tales of people winning , famous /improbable /funny etc.

...but rarely hear from the majority losers?

He is just one of many that started up a business and fair play to him.
Nothing against him personally. Don't wish him ill-will of any description.
Each to their own and same when it comes to taking a flutter.

admiralofthefleet

he is a lot nicer than ivan yates

sxt

Biggins wrote: »

...but rarely hear from the majority losers?

He is just one of many that started up a business and fair play to him.
Nothing against him personally. Don't wish him ill-will of any description.
Each to their own and same when it comes to taking a flutter.

I don;t wish him bad at all either but I think he is coming across as someone he is not though. He comes across as regular Joe on the radio ,But he is advertising the excitment and fun of betting and big money to be made by betting ...Bascially he tries to pretend he is joe public...?

sxt

amacachi wrote: »

Bookies never lose.

Paddy power will spin it that the bookies lose alot ,that is why I started this thread.

Biggins

sxt wrote: »

I don;t wish him bad at all either but I think he is coming across as someone he is not though. He comes across as regular Joe on the radio ,But he is advertising the excitement and fun of betting and big money to be made by betting ...Basically he tries to pretend he is joe public...?

I hear what your saying but regardless of money, be he rich or poor, he is a member of the public.

We all know why he might want to spin something a particular way - its in his interest.

ANXIOUS

myflipflops wrote: »

He doesn't.

He's the main marketing executive for a PLC company that his father named after him. He doesn't own the company and has nothing to do with it's trading. He knows no more about what to bet on than the next bloke on the street.

He's a top class PR guy though and quite a nice bloke. Some of the abuse he gets on the street would have caused fights with other people.



Definately worth a few quid but probable 995 million away from billionaire status.

He does not own the company.

His father didn't name it after him, a group of bookies came together. They got the name paddy from the whiskey they were drinking that night.

ascanbe

Know what the OP is saying; it's ridiculous when you hear him on the radio being asked for tips.
It's in his interest that you bet with Paddypower and that you lose.

Executive Steve

I remember years ago convincing an American girl that Paddy Power on Dorset street was where she had to go to pay her ESB bill.

DazMarz

Seems like a grand bloke, but as I'm a sour bastard I don't like bookies.


And I've yet to see a poor bookie or a bookie on a bicycle...

wicklowwonder

he change his name by deed pole to Paddy Power after the company! He is a marketing genius, is guaranteed a job for life and has come up with some great money making schemes that generate the company a lot of free press!!

Fair play to Paddy Power an Irish company doing well for themselves.....

nocal

He is a complete and utter tosser.
There is nothing he can do about Tiddles (or whatever it's name is), a poor little defenceless cat. Need I say more.

bonerm

Here's a tip. Find religion. It's like a free bet on whether there's a god.

Biggins

nocal wrote: »

He is a complete and utter tosser.
There is nothing he can do about Tiddles (or whatever it's name is), a poor little defenceless cat. Need I say more.

Yes, hopefully with a better explanation.

Sprouts

Anyone hear the crap Leon Blanchardstown comes out with? Why we should have to listen to these fools I dont know

sxt

bonerm wrote: »

Here's a tip. Find religion. It's like a free bet on whether there's a god.

Odds on there ever being a proof of God?:p

JONJO THE MISER

Paddy Power that you hear on the radio is Just the marketing manager of Paddy Power, my sister works in the head office, by all accounts he's a genuine nice guy but he is just doing his job marketing for them and take it as that.

sxt

JONJO THE MISER wrote: »

Paddy Power that you hear on the radio is Just the marketing manager of Paddy Power, my sister works in the head office, by all accounts he's a genuine nice guy but he is just doing his job marketing for them and take it as that.

He is doing a good job!

The_Kew_Tour

Paparazzo wrote: »

Here's a tip: Stay away from paddypower.com and use betfair.

I present to you Eamon Dunphy

Sonnenblumen

PP has quickly become a hugely profitable business and household name (high street and online) in the betting market.

I'm sure there is a substantiasl investment in the business and one cannot ignore PP's success.

Well done and fair play. But IMO betting is a loser's game, 'and for that reason only, I'm not interested. I'm out!':D

OutlawPete

amacachi wrote: »

Bookies never lose.

Of course Bookies lose.

John McCririck was one of the more famous failed bookies.

I have been asked to leave a few Bookmakers and refused bets in many also, including Paddy's.

Met him a few times and he is sound enough, seems genuine.

I'd rather lose money to PP than any other bookmaker though.

They were the first bookmaker in this country to give back to the punter.

They were the first with carpeted shops, comfortable seats, large screen TVs, free tea and coffee, place only betting (to compete with betfair) etc etc.

Customer service is grand and 95% of their shop staff are sound and don't fcuk up bets.

Contrast that with Boyles or Ladbrokes, who have the most arrogant shop staff around and make you feel like they are doing you a favour by taking your business.

I like 'em.

CrazyRabbit

The odds are that he's a nice guy, but he wouldn't be my favourite.

seanwhite20

Paddy Power hasnt grown to be the biggest bookmaker in ireland for no reason!its because of some of the reasons outlaw pete has given (although im too young to have known they were the first ones with carpets in their shops!).they are very customer focused as opposed to other bookies.

PP himself is a cool guy imo dunno him personally or anything but he is always funny when he's on channel 4 at the big races and stuff.
Powers are normally always the first to do money back specials and then other bookies just copy them.

Finally gotta agree with outlaw pete about shop staff in Lad's and Boyles my god they havent a clue..snatch the docket and money outta your hand.totally un-professional.

newballsplease

Never met the man. Dont know him. So I wont judge him.

artanevilla

Paddy Power the man is just a PR job. The name came from the founders sitting in a pub trying to think of the name for their bookmakers. They looked around and saw two bottles of whiskey sitting beside each other: Paddy and Powers.

Pj!

Don't know the man.

The company lost a lot of respect from punters when he admitted on national radio that you can play with them as long as you keep handing over your hard earned wages.
However if you make a serious stab at winning some back you're banned.

Their odds are generally not that great. The more sensible punter goes elsewhere.

x PyRo

Seems a decent enough fellow, Only does what he has to do.

People who say the bookies never lose are wrong. The clueless bettors are the mugs, Not everyone is. If you spend time doing your re-search you can win money at it.

I do.

derra_121

Hats off to the guy he is running one of the most successful companies of today.. employing hundreds of irish staff. He is starting to break the uk market and I wish him luck.

People dont have to bet if they dont want to like people dont have to take ryanair if they dont want to.. yea he is making millions but he is also promoting Ireland 100% and Racing in ireland so whats the harm

ceadaoin.

wicklowwonder wrote: »

he change his name by deed pole to Paddy Power after the company! He is a marketing genius, is guaranteed a job for life and has come up with some great money making schemes that generate the company a lot of free press!!

Fair play to Paddy Power an Irish company doing well for themselves.....

Eh no, his name is actually Paddy Power, he didn't change it! His father is one of the bookies that founded PP.

derra_121 wrote: »

Hats off to the guy he is running one of the most successful companies of today.. employing hundreds of irish staff. He is starting to break the uk market and I wish him luck.

He's not running the company. He is just a PR guy

Dravokivich

Don't really know the if's and buts... but betting is all down to the punter... if yer gonna feel like a twat losing out... don't put the money down in the first place...

Personally...

He's paid for my rent a few times...

Nice HD tv...

and a holiday to England along with a few other things...

mikemac

There were several bookies in our town and PP was the one that everyone went to watch racing.

The likes of Boylesports, Ladbrokes and Hacketts were utter kips, filthy dirty with toilets not far off Trainspotting.

PP had carpets, tea/coffee and good staff. And those novelty bets and money back were very imaginative and clever.

For sure bookies have improved their standards, Boylesports have some great shops around but they had to follow the trend.

Now I know most betters will follow the odds and happily go to each shop to get the best odds, dead right too. (rural town, no internet so it was walk to the shop, call or use teletext to check odds)
But nobody would choose to watch racing in some dive of a bookie shop if PP have something better.

I like their terminals so you can use your online accounts.
Paddy Power is a great PR guy and they realy are very clever with their campaigns, much like Ryanair. An Irish success story even if it gambling.

Having said all that, betting is for losers so apart from my annual bet on the Grand National I don't use these anymore

thebigbiffo

all this talk of people losing money to the bookies so 'f'uck them, wouldn't go near them' is a pile of s'hit.

plenty of people can and do make money from the bookies or at the very least break even. it is you sir, the bloke above, that bets on the grand national once a year, for the most part, is where they make their profits. if you play the odds, know a little bit about what your doing, follow the market or basically have some kind of workable system (that you'll only get by having an interest in the sport from the start and not mind losing small money in pusuit of that enjoyment) you can and will end up in profit yourself.

i've been taking my betting fairly seriously the last few months and am determined not to lose money with my pp account - and i haven't. in fact, i've made hundreds from paddy's since i've started.

and their cash card...f'uckin wonderful invention. my local pp is like my local atm these days!

bernardo mac

Smooth operators,not far from being shysters,three card trick men,masters of the cliche and the all too glib sell Office staff rates have been cut back drastically while Management awarded themselves at least I.3 million each in bonuses last year. Would not be surprised if Kennedy and Co. were first name buddies of those in the so called Golden Circle.

supermonkey

Paddy Power make a margin of about 15% before tax. If bookies didn't make a margin there'd be no bookies!