Ultimate Buffalo Wings with Franks Sauce

cgarrad

I spent a bit of time trying to copy the wings in Elephane and Castle and I have come up with a very close match ;-)

Obviously you need Franks hot sauce.



You can get this in several places, see other threads (Fallon and Byrne etc.)

Then add ghee, Pride was the one I found good in Aisa Market on Drury St, D2.



Mix 70% hot sauce with 30% ghee in a pan and heat till hot enough.

Whisk it to combine the sauce and fat.

The more you heat it the less punch the hot sauce will have.

Make about 10g/ml for each wing.

They are real close to E&C!

Any suggestions or variations are welcome ;-)

Gregsor

I usually just use butter but am interested in trying Ghee instead.
I could also use the Ghee for homemade Sheek Kebabs and the likes,i`m always meaning to pick some up.
Was it expensive?

mayflyatr

Love the stuff, have it on everything!!! You can buy ready made wing hot sauce.:D

cgarrad

Ghee is about €4 for 500g, about 3g per wing so not dear.

The ready made stuff is truly awful, knock this up to compare ;-)

Seaneh

make your own ghee, it's just clarified butter.

cgarrad

It is but the results are better with this product than kerrygold ;-)

Also it lasts forever as there is only fat and no milk solids in it.

Minder

Add a tablespoon or two of white wine vinegar - it gives the sauce a kick.

vibe666

mayflyatr wrote: »

Love the stuff, have it on everything!!! You can buy ready made wing hot sauce.:D

no you can't. what you can buy is franks with some crappy artificial butter substitute in it and pay twice the price for something half as good.

anyone who can't melt some actual butter in a pan with their franks hot sauce shouldn't be allowed to eat it at all.

mayflyatr

I don't feel that strongly about it.

vibe666 wrote: »

no you can't. what you can buy is franks with some crappy artificial butter substitute in it and pay twice the price for something half as good.

anyone who can't melt some actual butter in a pan with their franks hot sauce shouldn't be allowed to eat it at all.

cgarrad

The milk solids and salt in butter ruin the flavour.

Try the ghee and see what i mean.

vibe666

cgarrad wrote: »

Try the ghee and see what i mean.

i used to know a pimp that used that same slogan.

Sonovagun

when do you guys ad the sauce to the wings? Before or after cooking?

Kimia

I baste the wings about 10 mins in and then constantly until the end of cooking time. YUM!

Sonovagun

Just had them. Not even close to Eddie rockets buffalo wings

cgarrad

Sonovagun wrote: »

Just had them. Not even close to Eddie rockets buffalo wings

Eh Eddie Rockets wings are what we are trying to avoid.....

Elephant and Castle is the goal.

nice1franko

I tried them with that exact ghee and it wasn't as nice as butter imo... too oily.

+1 for the white wine vinegar. It's crucial!

Sonovagun

cgarrad wrote: »

Eh Eddie Rockets wings are what we are trying to avoid.....

Elephant and Castle is the goal.

What you on about Eddie Rockets wings are gorgeous!

cgarrad

Stop trolling

unkel

cgarrad wrote: »

Any suggestions or variations are welcome ;-)

Very similar, mine was a tiny bit less hot at 60/40. See here

Cullen82

Great thanks for the tip off. My brother tried this sauce before and warned me off it - said it was ridiculously hot! Obv there are ways around that

emc2

looking forward to trying some of these tonight!

mr j tayto

Try cooking the wings first, when they are done throw them into a bowl and smother in Franks sauce just on its own,absolutely delicious, nyum nyum. however something that nice cant possibly be good for you!!!

MarcusFenix

Where can I get Franks sauce in Cork???:o

the beer revolu

MarcusFenix wrote: »

Where can I get Franks sauce in Cork???:o

Dunnes in Douglas Court of Supervalue in Grange.

Not found it in the city centre yet!!
(Tesco Paul Street had it a while back but delisted it as they're competing in the Most Disimproved Tesco in Ireland Awards - they should win too!)

the beer revolu

the beer revolu wrote: »

Dunnes in Douglas Court of Supervalue in Grange.

Not found it in the city centre yet!!
(Tesco Paul Street had it a while back but delisted it as they're competing in the Most Disimproved Tesco in Ireland Awards - they should win too!)

Update:

Dunne's on Patrick Street have it in stock now!

The Black Oil

What's the deal with this sauce, it seems quite famous on boards. :pac: Don't think I've ever seen it on sale, must track it down some time.

unkel

The Black Oil wrote: »

What's the deal with this sauce, it seems quite famous on boards. :pac:

Not just on boards. Frank's is now officially the best hot sauce in the world

In stock in any Superquinn, €2.99

MarcusFenix

Thanks lads, heading into town on the hunt for it this evening, also this is semi off topic but has anyone on here from the meath area ever eaten in a place called francinni's in trim? they have the ultimate wings but the sour cream you get with is unbelievable! Wondering does anyone know whats in it or any good suggestions of your own would be appreciated!

nails by sinead

I just love love love buffalo wings, since living in new york several years ago i always remembered the guys in the kitchen flaming up buffalo wings with lovely cool blue cheese dressing. I always fry the chicken wings in corn flour an flour, remove, then toss in buffalo wing sauce. I buy the wing sauce, franks, in dunnes stores in the sauces aisle. Cook them once or twice a month, a fav in my house.

Gregsor wrote: »

I usually just use butter but am interested in trying Ghee instead.
I could also use the Ghee for homemade Sheek Kebabs and the likes,i`m always meaning to pick some up.
Was it expensive?

nails by sinead

HI, you can buy a buffalo wing sauce in dunnes stores, brand name is FRANKS. its in the sauce aisle. fry ur wings in corn flour an flour, remove, them mix ur sauce with warm ghee butter an add the wings, toss an serve, use a v cool light dressing as in blue cheese or type in the blue cheese recipe to google an make ur own, so yummy, we eat these all the time, hot hot hot, enjoy......

tdiman

anyone care to give some step by step instructions on the cooking process from start to finish. I've asked a few folks about getting the elephany and castle recipe just right - some mentioned oven baking the wings orther have mentioned deep frying? Nails by Sinead - you mention 'I always fry the chicken wings in corn flour an flour'....?

Thanks!

Swampy

Much better results had when frying.

Coat with seasoned flour. Bang them in the deep fat fryer at 180 or more for around 12-15 mins (golden brown), then toss in the sauce(franks and ghee). Heat the solid ghee in the pan to melt, then use fluid measurements.

This is the best blue cheese dip in my opinion.

Blue Cheese Dip

3/4 cup mayonnaise
1 clove garlic, minced
2 tablespoons finely chopped fresh parsley
1/2 cup sour cream
1 tablespoon fresh lemon juice
1 tablespoon white vinegar
1/2 cup crumbled blue cheese (i use danish blue)
salt and pepper
Combine all ingredients; chill for an hour or two. Serve as a dip for the Buffalo wings. Makes about 1 1/2 cups of blue cheese dip.


edit: make sure you joint the wings and remove the tip(stating the obvious)

MarcusFenix

Im stupid, how do you mean joint the wings and remove the tip???

temply

Love Franks wings - I do them an easier way - I put them in my oven at 180 for an hour (makes them lovely and crispy) Take them out and let them cool down for a minute or so, then get a small plastic bag, put the wings in it & then add the franks sauce, shake them until they are all coated (plastic bag is brill for coating them all properly) and et voila! Franks wings - and they do taste very like the elephant + castle - without the deep frying and all the butter

They are a massive favourite in my house - and as a treat, get some sour cream, ad some white vinegar, hunks of blue cheese, some black pepper and lemon juice, and you've got a lovely dip

Kimia

I bake them too but I baste em every 10 mins or so with Franks and then an extra dollop at the end, I find it stays on longer.

Marcus, when you buys wings they usually come all in one large piece, which actually breaks down into the smaller pieces you get in restaurants and the like.

So when you buy them you need to joint them, which means cut into 2 pieces, the long thin bit and the drumsticky bit, and then discard the very thin tip at the top of the wing (with no meat)

See?

Swampy

to joint a wing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnahgARLdsU

youcancallmeal

Can someone answer me a few questions as I want to try and have a go at doing these tomorrow.

Where do I get plain chicken wings? Can they just be bought frozen from a supermarket or do I need to go to a butchers? Also do you leave the skin on?

I'm thinking I'd rather bake them because my deep fat fryer is in need of an oil change and I reckon if I fried them they would just taste like chips?

Temply your instructions sound the easiest for a beginner like me. Might give it a shot that way but an hour seems like a long time to have them in the oven, do you cover them in tin foil as well?

nice1franko

SuperValu sell a decent size pack of them exactly like they are in the youtube vid above for 2.99.

Swampy

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Can someone answer me a few questions as I want to try and have a go at doing these tomorrow.

Where do I get plain chicken wings? Can they just be bought frozen from a supermarket or do I need to go to a butchers? Also do you leave the skin on?

I'm thinking I'd rather bake them because my deep fat fryer is in need of an oil change and I reckon if I fried them they would just taste like chips?

Temply your instructions sound the easiest for a beginner like me. Might give it a shot that way but an hour seems like a long time to have them in the oven, do you cover them in tin foil as well?

Plain wings in the poultry fridge department, usually €3ish for a kilo. Skin most definitely on!!!! Its all about the skin. they need an hour in the oven, otherwise maybe 30 mins in oven then 5 mins under a hot grill each side to crispy up.


Definitely best deep fried though.

nice1franko

btw, the knife in that vid must be seriously sharp. When I do mine it's like choppin' firewood

MarcusFenix

Swampy wrote: »

to joint a wing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnahgARLdsU

AH i see! thank you!

Kimia

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Can someone answer me a few questions as I want to try and have a go at doing these tomorrow.

Where do I get plain chicken wings? Can they just be bought frozen from a supermarket or do I need to go to a butchers? Also do you leave the skin on?

I'm thinking I'd rather bake them because my deep fat fryer is in need of an oil change and I reckon if I fried them they would just taste like chips?

Temply your instructions sound the easiest for a beginner like me. Might give it a shot that way but an hour seems like a long time to have them in the oven, do you cover them in tin foil as well?

Superquinn do lovely SQ chicken wings for only 3 quid and you get loads. You won't need to buy them frozen - they'll be in the meat/poulty aisle. SKIN ON!! Don't take the skin off.

I don't know if they'd taste like chips, especially with Franks! I bake them and they're lovely and crispy. Don't cover them in tin foil, it's literally as easy as bunging them into a hot (180) oven for about 45 mins. Done.

MarcusFenix

i presume if its in the oven these are being cooked then they are probably okay to eat if your trying to lose weight, obviously not every day but maybe once a week?

tdiman

Some great tips and tricks here, thanks all!

When baking, does it help to dip them in seasoned flour as well, or is that only when deep frying?

Going to have to get the sauce today, then the wings and try a few variations of these!

Swampy

tdiman wrote: »

Some great tips and tricks here, thanks all!

When baking, does it help to dip them in seasoned flour as well, or is that only when deep frying?

Going to have to get the sauce today, then the wings and try a few variations of these!

I personally wouldn't bother. I would however season them and toss the in a bowl with some olive oil so they are lightly covered. Helps with the crispyness.


On a side note, anyone else get pissed off because the hot sauce coating makes it difficult for blue cheese dip to stick?

temply

Swampy wrote: »

I personally wouldn't bother. I would however season them and toss the in a bowl with some olive oil so they are lightly covered. Helps with the crispyness.


On a side note, anyone else get pissed off because the hot sauce coating makes it difficult for blue cheese dip to stick?

must try your olive oil tip Swampy!

the wings don't be hanging around long enough for the dip to unstick in my house! down the hatch in 5 secs!

Kimia

MarcusFenix wrote: »

i presume if its in the oven these are being cooked then they are probably okay to eat if your trying to lose weight, obviously not every day but maybe once a week?

It really depends on what kind of a diet you're on, but my thoughts would be that they are way too calorific to eat (especially as you end up eating so many of them - i do anyway) when you're trying to lose weight. So I'd avoid unless you have the will power to eat only about 5 at a time.

MarcusFenix

Thanks! I could prob only fit 4 at a stretch anyway, my mouth is small:( :pac::pac::pac:

Kimia

Fair play to you! I normally eat about 15 at a time!! Nom nom

the beer revolu

I steam mine for about 10 minutes and let cool/dry on a rack in the fridge and then put them in a very hot oven for about 20 mins.

unkel

tdiman wrote: »

anyone care to give some step by step instructions on the cooking process from start to finish. I've asked a few folks about getting the elephany and castle recipe just right - some mentioned oven baking the wings orther have mentioned deep frying? Nails by Sinead - you mention 'I always fry the chicken wings in corn flour an flour'....?

Here ya go. Probably better than they serve them in E&C these days

The crucial bits are: deep fry, the coating, use Frank's original (not the buffalo wing sauce), use ghee (clarified butter, not normal butter) and to boil the sauce to reduce acidity

Enjoy