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Summer 2010 - WWE releases Bryan Danielson (Zombie bump)

  • 12-06-2010 4:51am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭


    Source: www.wwe.com

    The WWE website reports that Daniel Bryan has been released from his contract. "We wish Daniel Bryan the best in all future endeavors," reads the post, which you can read at WWE.com.

    May be a work given the storyline.

    Is it a work or for real? 33 votes

    real
    0% 0 votes
    work
    100% 33 votes


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,933 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,377 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody


    Feels like a story move alright, I'm thinking of the Bryan Danielson has never lost a match interview. Feels like this is pat of this to let go of the old persona...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Big Daddy Cool


    maybe it is a storyline firing but they include both daniel bryan and (bryan danielson) in their statement so maybe its a legite firing, if so the wwe haved ruined what happened last monday night and a potential good storyline with michael cole by getting rid of in my opinion the only nxt talent with any ability


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    According to Meltzer (and other sources), this is a legitimate firing
    What I was told is someone very important complained about the angle and it was the idea that kids watching may think it's fun to choke people with their ties.

    He was a scapegoat. They want him back when it blows over.

    What I don't know is where the complaint came from, but obviously it was someone very powerful, because even people internally now that it's out can't understand why they didn't wait until Tuesday and have Cena destroy him on Raw on Monday.

    From Lords of Pain
    Source: F4Wonline.com

    - People in WWE, including the creative team, were told that Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) was fired for choking ring announcer Justin Roberts with his own tie during the NXT invasion angle on RAW this past Monday.

    The shot was edited from replays of the angle and was described as being too violent for what WWE allows on it's programming.

    For what it's worth, Danielson was described as the type of person you would want your locker room filled with.

    Added to this is that Danielson has changed his tweitter name from DanielByranNxT to BryanDanielson and has tweeted
    Just changed my twitter name to Bryan Danielson. The winds of change are stirring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Not as sure as everyone this is a work, if it does well done Vince:D


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    Oh and



    The latest on Bryan Danielson's release from WWE is that people who needed to know were told Danielson was cut for choking ring announcer Justin Roberts with his tie during the "NXT invasion" angle on Monday night. The shot involving Roberts was edited from replays of the show. The only thing that is being discussed right now is that WWE felt choking with a tie was too violent for what is allowed on television right now. From all accounts, Danielson was described as being well liked backstage during his tenure with the company.

    Source: The Wrestling Observer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,391 ✭✭✭D2D


    Strange thing is that WWE's corporate site normally has the announcement up straight away but there's no mention of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    ewrestlingnews.com
    Although we don't have this confirmed, Bryan 'Daniel Bryan' Danielson may not actually be fired from WWE. According to one source I spoke with, they think WWE is doing an angle where 'Daniel Bryan' is fired and Bryan Danielson will be his new ring name. This is not confirmed though.

    We can also report that his WWE twitter name was just changed to Bryan Danielson and he mentioned it, saying "the winds of change are stirring."

    WWE then announced Daniel Bryan had been future endeavored on the WWE.com website. If this is the case, this would be the first time WWE has used their web site to do a fake firing.

    Please god let this be true, what an f'ing disgrace if he really has been let go. I also don't believe for one second that that segment was not completely scripted. If Daniel Bryan "choked out" Roberts with his own tie then he was told to do it. You can't fire someone for something you told him to do, that's the kind of BS that can see you sued. Simple as, it's a work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    Terrible news if its legit. Its probably just a storyline though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    LZ5by5 wrote: »
    ewrestlingnews.com


    Please god let this be true, what an f'ing disgrace if he really has been let go. I also don't believe for one second that that segment was not completely scripted. If Daniel Bryan "choked out" Roberts with his own tie then he was told to do it. You can't fire someone for something you told him to do, that's the kind of BS that can see you sued. Simple as, it's a work.

    Maybe, but while Vince may have been cool with it, Linda and her campaign team probably weren't. They have been falling behind in the polls so I assume they were probably on edge and really don't want this to be used on them when the campaign is still on. M


  • Site Banned Posts: 26,456 ✭✭✭✭Nuri Sahin


    If Danielson was properly released because he choked someone with a tie then WWE has officially moved from the PG era to the G era.

    The "NXT invasion" storyline loses most of it's appeal without Bryan, only Barett provides a modicum of interest.

    I'll clutch at any straw right now though and say it's all part of the storyline.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    I mean that act was more comical than violent. I was laughing at Robert's OTT facial expressions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,735 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    While I could understand them reprimanding Danielson for the tie thing, I doubt they would have fired him over it, especially when they've obviously had big plans for him for ages.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Could any of the mods set up a poll for this? One option could be work, the other real? It might be fun to see who has called this righht and who has bragging rights in the long run:o:)

    If its to much hassle or you are to busy watching the football, thats cool. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    While I could understand them reprimanding Danielson for the tie thing, I doubt they would have fired him over it, especially when they've obviously had big plans for him for ages.


    Could be sponsors getting involved. The Matell deal according to Vince McMahon was "a game changer". Maybe this is what he meant.

    I don't know what to believe but I am veering on the side of it being true. This is the era of McDonalised corporate wrestling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Best storyline in years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,242 ✭✭✭chordtype


    I'm actually hoping this is a work.

    Choking Roberts with his tie and spitting on Cena are the only two reasons I can think of and in an angle where I'm assuming WWE was looking for a sense of realism, these at least added something. If someone is pissed off they are more likely to spit on them that go to the top rope and hit a 450 splash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    The signs seem to be pointing towards it being due to pressure from Mattel. No other sponsor or affiliate that I can think of would have the power to cause this. Meltzer is indicating that it's not something that WWE themselves wanted to do

    I wonder if whoever told him to do it was fired too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Fozzy wrote: »
    I wonder if whoever told him to do it was fired too

    I would bloody well hope so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    I'm still thinkin it's a work! They allowed rand orton attack women and kick people in the head, Batista try run over cena with a car, but this isn't allowed?I have to admit I'm skeptical!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Surely the STFU is as bad as being choked by a tie?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    I'm still thinkin it's a work! They allowed rand orton attack women and kick people in the head, Batista try run over cena with a car, but this isn't allowed?I have to admit I'm skeptical!

    The Orton stuff was before Mattel came on board and Batista with the car was just implied, never shown directly and didn't actually happen. Danielson choking Roberts was clear as day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Gerard.C wrote: »
    Surely the STFU is as bad as being choked by a tie?

    But a kid is more likely to seriously hurt his friend by wrapping a tie around his neck than putting an STF on him. That's probably the thinking behind it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭Paulegend


    Gerard.C wrote: »
    Surely the STFU is as bad as being choked by a tie?

    besides the fact the STFU doesnt actually hurt in any way or form yea....................:D

    aparantly they want him to come back after the story blows over so maybe it is for real but they will use it as a work. maybe write him out of the story for now and bring him in when this storyline is running at its peak


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,984 ✭✭✭Degag


    Jesus Christ, i might as well be watching Spongebob Squarepants or whatever it is that the kids watch these days if this is what is happening. If this is real, i can guarantee Cena, HHH etc wouldn't even be reprimanded let alone fired. Stinks of what happened with Hassan a few years back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    Gerard.C wrote: »
    Best storyline in years

    ^^This


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Degag wrote: »
    Jesus Christ, i might as well be watching Spongebob Squarepants or whatever it is that the kids watch these days if this is what is happening. If this is real, i can guarantee Cena, HHH etc wouldn't even be reprimanded let alone fired. Stinks of what happened with Hassan a few years back.

    Exactly. Meltzer said that Danielson was a scapegoat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    This is a bit :eek:.

    If its legit, firing him is way OTT.

    If its a work its amazing and the booking of Danielson has been mind blowingly brilliant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,234 ✭✭✭ayatollah




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    They certainly had no problem with him choking Roberts at the time as they actually focused the camera on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭von Smallhausen


    Is it just me or is anyone else sick of the WWE's PG rating crap...Whats next, getting rid of the undertakers dead man persona cause is too scary for the kids??:mad::mad: WWE pull your heads out of your rear ends and bring back the days of old...screw the kids (not literally) think of your real fans!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    i cant believe this i think its real this whole pg thing is annoying first the stopping of the blood is stupid it ruins matches now this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    Let's predict the chants he'll get from fans upon his return to ROH. Maybe they'll lob boxes and boxes full of ties at him, like they did toilet paper with Jimmy Rave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,957 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    ****ing disgrace tbh

    im really sick and tired of wwe and im delighted iv no sky sports anymore, i may miss seeing my prophet but its not worth it anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I still think it's a work. Well, we'll get to see if it was real on RAW this Monday. If it were real, why they couldn't wait to injure him (by Cena) on Monday's RAW is stupid; they could sell the injury angle for the month or two for the heat to die down.

    I'm still going for the NXT guys being 'fired' before being 'hired'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    He is ideally placed for a "shocking" run in through the crowd now that hes been "fired" in order to further the NXT angle.

    Hard to know what to believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,594 ✭✭✭Fozzy


    Why would they do a work of firing him if he wasn't working for them in storyline anyway?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    So Mattel (the toy company who release the WWE figures) were the ones who were offended and complained.

    Absolutely ridiculous. They make their money releasing figures with accessories, ie: folding chairs, Hell In a Cell cages, Signapore canes, tables, ladders, kitchen sinks etc., yet they have a problem with someone choking someone else with a tie?!

    Edit: Good Lord, just seen this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/405125-to-iwc-i-need-your-help-petition-to-bryan-danielson. A petition to boycott WWE for sacking him. From the website: "Its funny, I look at the oil spill and say that's a shame but with this I have an angry passion that needs a focus".

    That's right. Comparing the recent oil spill to the sacking of a wrestler. Not. Enough. Facepalms.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Fozzy wrote: »
    Why would they do a work of firing him if he wasn't working for them in storyline anyway?

    You're right but you're also assuming WWE storylines are based on logic, which they seldom are.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,045 ✭✭✭Vince135792003


    While I think firing someone for something they actually zoomed in on is ridiculous, I did think at the time that the tie choking spot while brilliant was very much out of place on the show.

    It shows the attitude of WWE in 2010. 10 years ago I couldn't imagine them being influenced this much by a sponsor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    As much as I fear that it isn't a work and is legitimate, one look at Justin Robert's face during the choking can tell anyone he knew it was going to happen. Supposedly very few people at ringside were told it was going to happen to add to the realistic feel of it, but he was goin bug eyed and sticking his tongue out. He looked like he was being choked in a cartoon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Credit to www.PWInsider.com

    ONE MAN'S TAKE ON THE DANIEL BRYAN SITUATION
    by Dave Scherer @ 10:45 AM on 6/12/2010

    Unless you were completely off of the grid in the last 12 hours, you know by now that Bryan "Daniel Bryan" Danielson was released by WWE last night. According to numerous WWE sources, the firing is legitimate and they are being told to move forward as if Bryan is gone (even to the point that he is now edited out of most of the footage from the NXT attack that happened on last Monday's Raw).



    The reason we have been told for the company releasing of one of the most talented performers in the business is that he choked Justin Roberts on the show (and damn, don't I remember Heath Slater trying to do the same thing to John Cena with the ring ropes during the same angle).
    Danielson's heinous offense was so egregious that he was fired, not given a warning or guidance to that fact that even though he has wrestled all over the world, things here in PGWWE, where the company matriarch is trying to become a US Senator, are just a tad did different thank everywhere else you have been. You may be used to pro wrestling, where things are supposed to look realistic, but this is PGWWE, where we don't know the difference between the actors who play characters in The A Team movie and the people themselves.

    And Bryan, don't give us that "You didn't know it wasn't OK to get physical" line of BS either. WWE is not a wrestling promotion friend, they make movies. They entertain. Clearly, what you did to Roberts wasn't entertaining to kids, I guess. And don't even tell me that you saw a Raw recently where Edge snuck up on Randy Orton and bashed him with a door. That's OK because everyone knows that a tie is much more deadly than a door. Certain felonies are perfectly acceptable in WWE but others aren't, got it? Me either.

    What makes matters worse is that Danielson was a major cog in the best angle that WWE has done in years, and I mean many years. He was a guy who came into WWE with all of his fans skeptical of how he would be used and instead he quickly became THE star of NXT. We all knew he could work, but damn he also showed the world that he could do promos and show great personality too. Now, if WWE.com is to be believed he is gone, and he will probably take a lot of the joy of that great angle with him.

    Of course, where WWE is concerned I am always skeptical. At first, I had hoped that this was just part of an angle to further the NXT invasion. Perhaps it still is, but given that they posted the news on their website near midnight on a Friday, which is the black hole for companies to release news that they want read by the fewest amount of people, I don't think that will be the case.

    Then I wondered it perhaps he kicked Superman Cena too hard in the head (you know because in wrestling it's OK for some people to get hurt but not others). If that turns out to be the case, and again I am just wondering because WWE doesn't feel that its "Universe" deserves explanations to important things related to the company, then there will be a lot of skewerings of WWE and/or Cena coming in the near future.

    Given that the company worked most of its employees as to what was
    going to happen at the end of Raw on Monday, we can hold out hope that this is an elaborate ruse, one that will impugn what credibility WWE.com has left but that doesn't really matter. Perhaps it's the next step in the nWo shoot style angle that began on Monday. If that is the case, it's fine by me. WWE.com isn't exactly the site I go to when I am looking for the straight dope on WWE anyway.

    But if that is not the case and Bryan has been let go for, in effect, being a pro wrestler, then this company has completely gone off of the rails and Vince McMahon can look forward to more conference calls where he has to try and explain dipping ratings and dropping PPV buyrates to concerned stockholders. If that is the case, here's a hint Vince. Before the call, go into the bathroom and stand in front of the mirror. The answer will be looking back at you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,208 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    If this is a work the E have gone to a serious amount of trouble to work the internet. Bear in mind if it is a work guys like Melz and PW Insider the most reliable sources around have been worked by their sources. The E are simply not going to so much trouble to trick the internet, a fanbase they think is miniscule and one they don’t really respect.

    Straws been clutched I reckon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭Dean820


    Imagine Danielson showing up and attacking Cena out of nowhere, the place would go mental. Would be the greatest work in modern wrestling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,284 ✭✭✭Gerard.C


    Fozzy wrote: »
    But a kid is more likely to seriously hurt his friend by wrapping a tie around his neck than putting an STF on him. That's probably the thinking behind it

    But shur the kids are not supposed to try this at home. This is definatly a work, theres no logic to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,957 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    wwe and logic :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 iWeeze


    Heath Slater tried to choke Cena with the ring rope, where's his release?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭ScumdogV2


    Funny, when I was watching Raw, I noticed he hesitated when he was about to strangle Cena with the rope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,030 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭Dean820


    ScumdogV2 wrote: »
    Funny, when I was watching Raw, I noticed he hesitated when he was about to strangle Cena with the rope.

    I noticed that too. Did someone say something to him to make him stop?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,640 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Sounds real to me. Maybe it's felt this will cause hassle to Linda's political campaign?

    Anyway if true it strikes me as being very harsh. No warning or punishment just fired immediately? I don't get it. I can recall an angle involving Muhammad Hassan and HBK a few years back where he was hung up on the rope even more violently before Hogan came down and made the save. I know it wasn't PG in those days but even so, it's not like what Danielson did was an unprecedented level of violence.


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