The Evil Computer Games thread

bluejay14

Ginja Ninja wrote: »

:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtM3PGyiQUc

*NERDGASM*
gimmegimmegimmegimme

Raiden.

Luno

Started playing Bomberman recently. Love that game.

SoupyNorman

Killzone 2 is amazing I'm in love with it.

Sentineil

SoupyNorman wrote: »

Killzone 2 is amazing I'm in love with it.

Really? Does the huge delay between when you press a button and it actually doing what it's suppose to not bother you at all?

The accuracy being so bad that to hit anything you have to intentionally miss-aim?

The bot and drone spam fest of the higher ranked rooms?

The terrible sensitivity? Even though it's up full you still feel like you're stuck in mud.

SoupyNorman

Sentineil wrote: »

Really? Does the huge delay between when you press a button and it actually doing what it's suppose to not bother you at all?

The accuracy being so bad that to hit anything you have to intentionally miss-aim?

The bot and drone spam fest of the higher ranked rooms?

The terrible sensitivity? Even though it's up full you still feel like you're stuck in mud.

No.
No.
No.
No.

Konata

Lads. I need an XBOX. Does anyone know where I can buy one SUPER AWESOME CHEAP or want to like, give me their one? Cause I totally deserve it y'know >_>

Craguls

Hotaru wrote: »

Lads. I need an XBOX. Does anyone know where I can buy one SUPER AWESOME CHEAP or want to like, give me their one? Cause I totally deserve it y'know >_>

I know gamestop generally have a decent price on their pre owned consoles. Worth a look in anyway. GAME are more expensive but generally better from experience.

Sentineil

SoupyNorman wrote: »

No.
No.
No.
No.

Spacing is your friend.

ME! wrote:

No

No.

No.

No.

See how much prettier it looks? Less like a tantrum too!

D4RK ONION

Oh hey Sentineil! I feel like he made valid arguments myself. :P

Davidius

Sentineil wrote: »

Really? Does the huge delay between when you press a button and it actually doing what it's suppose to not bother you at all?

Why should that bother you? It's just putting emphasis on the delay between thought and action we all experience in our lives. It's supposed to be realistic.

The accuracy being so bad that to hit anything you have to intentionally miss-aim?

Once again this just adds to the realism of the game. Sure if you have training you'll be able to aim a decent bit but if your hand-eye coordination is a bit off then it's only natural that aiming at a different location than your target can actually yield positive results. Not to mention the factors of bullet travel time and external forces. They're just approximating to give you a realistic experience without relying on overcomplicated calculations to maximise performance. I have to hand it to Guerilla games, they know how to balance efficiency and functionality.

The bot and drone spam fest of the higher ranked rooms?

Like I said before, realism is key. When you're in a battle zone you're going to be facing off against several different enemies, most of which have a habit of spamming death at you. Now just imagine instead of death being spammed, it's bots and drones. The situations are analogous.

The terrible sensitivity? Even though it's up full you still feel like you're stuck in mud.

They're just trying to give you a feeling of stressful situations that your training and experience haven't prepared you for. You're bound to lose muscle control in the heat of combat, it's only natural that your character would be in such distress that he does everything with an endearing thousand-yard stare.

Sentineil

You raise some very valid points.

I wish to withdraw my previous negativity. I had underestimated Guerrilla. Clearly they are designing games for true gamers and not a peon like me.

They're just trying to give you a feeling of stressful situations that your training and experience haven't prepared you for. You're bound to lose muscle control in the heat of combat, it's only natural that your character would be in such distress that he does everything with an endearing thousand-yard stare.

I think you may be onto something here. Perhaps this is the reason devs intentionally put lag and rubberbanding in my games. It's all for my benefit.

Davidius, do you by chance have a newsletter I could subscribe too?

Konata

Lads.

XBOX yea?

Or PS3 possibly.

Seriously, whichever is cheapest.

One is desperate here...

Pygmalion

Sentineil wrote: »

Perhaps this is the reason devs intentionally put lag and rubberbanding in my games. It's all for my benefit.

You don't find the lag (and reduced accuracy) to add a layer of difficulty and suspense to the game?
I mean if the bullets always went exactly where you aimed and you had perfect knowledge of the current (to within a small fraction of a second) game state a monkey could play a perfect game, what's the fun in that?

I mean obviously it's not much fun when you're losing, some people just can't account for these things, but the answer isn't to drag gaming back to the 90s, it's to find a game more suitable for your skill level.

D4RK ONION

360 is cheaper to my mind? Look on adverts.ie you might find something cheap.

Sentineil

Pygmalion wrote: »

You don't find the lag (and reduced accuracy) to add a layer of difficulty and suspense to the game?
I mean if the bullets always went exactly where you aimed and you had perfect knowledge of the current (to within a small fraction of a second) game state a monkey could play a perfect game, what's the fun in that?

I mean obviously it's not much fun when you're losing, some people just can't account for these things, but the answer isn't to drag gaming back to the 90s, it's to find a game more suitable for your skill level.

My eyes are truly open now. Maybe rubberbanding is just a lapse in concentration. Like when you walk down to the shops, but then forget to go to the shop and end up somewhere completely different.

So with lag and rubberbanding, it mimics this by putting me somewhere else entirely. Genius.

Pygmalion

Sentineil wrote: »

My eyes are truly open now. Maybe rubberbanding is just a lapse in concentration. Like when you walk down to the shops, but then forget to go to the shop and end up somewhere completely different.

So with lag and rubberbanding, it mimics this by putting me somewhere else entirely. Genius.

Perhaps in this case they're sacrificing realism for difficulty, it might be annoying for some, but believe me, if gamers didn't want this it wouldn't make it onto the shelves, and there are plenty of games without this behaviour (and it's disabled in the single-player modes of many games to appeal to more casual gamers).
There's no technical reason for the rubber-banding, it's put in purely because there's a demand for it, maybe you're just not the target audience for these games.

Sentineil

I'm probably too casual so the technical ins and outs go over my head.

Modern FPSs like Killzone and CoD need more motion control imho.

QueenOfLeon

This is the only thread that I don't have a little ticky box-y thing on the front page for. Its annoying me. So hi Computer games are awesome etc :cool:

Konata

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

This is the only thread that I don't have a little ticky box-y thing on the front page for. Its annoying me. So hi Computer games are awesome etc :cool:

That's NO HELP to me and my console problem Queenie.

QueenOfLeon

Hotaru wrote: »

That's NO HELP to me and my console problem Queenie.

Stop with the -ie's. Arghhhhhhhh

Or I shall have to start calling you Hot-ie...oh no wait...:pac:

Pygmalion

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

Stop with the -ie's. Arghhhhhhhh

Or I shall have to start calling you Hot-ie...oh no wait...:pac:

One incestuous cousin relationship is enough for this forum tbh.

Konata

QueenOfLeon wrote: »

Stop with the -ie's. Arghhhhhhhh

Or I shall have to start calling you Hot-ie...oh no wait...:pac:

Cheers Queenie

QueenOfLeon

Pygmalion wrote: »

One incestuous cousin relationship is enough for this forum tbh.

How many more of them are there? :P

Kersmash

anyone else see the prestige edition for black ops? lulz, seems like a waste of money tbh.

syncosised

Hotaru wrote: »

Lads.

XBOX yea?

Or PS3 possibly.

Seriously, whichever is cheapest.

One is desperate here...

360, is it? That's a good bit cheaper than a PS3. If you're looking for a new one you won't find much variation in the prices, as there's very little profit from hardware.

If you're talking about an old school Xbox, I have one knocking about that you could take off my hands!

Konata

syncosised wrote: »

360, is it? That's a good bit cheaper than a PS3. If you're looking for a new one you won't find much variation in the prices, as there's very little profit from hardware.

If you're talking about an old school Xbox, I have one knocking about that you could take off my hands!

Nah, it's a 360 I'm looking for but thanks anyway!

I just don't have an awful lot of money and amn't exactly experienced in console buying ways so was wondering if there was some super sekkrit place that sells cheap ones :pac:

One can always dream

Ginja Ninja

Hotaru wrote: »

Nah, it's a 360 I'm looking for but thanks anyway!

I just don't have an awful lot of money and amn't exactly experienced in console buying ways so was wondering if there was some super sekkrit place that sells cheap ones :pac:

One can always dream

I just saw this now,I'm itching to buy a Ps3[damn you metal gear solid!]

an xbox 360 is ~150 euro on adverts.ie maybe a bit less if you're lucky this one seems good:
http://www.adverts.ie/269472/xbox/xbox-360-elite/

Too bad a Ps3 is almost a months rent to buy :mad:

syncosised

My only advice would be to not get fooled into buying a crap bundle. A lot of places will force you to buy a bundle so they can make a bit of profit from it. I got mine pretty soon after release, and had to get a bundle with King Kong! Hard to believe that's almost 5 years ago! Of course it's been replaced as the original succumbed to the RRoD, just within extended warranty, thankfully!

Also, get one with a hard drive. The capacity isn't too important if you're only going to use it to save games and maybe download Arcade ones. There's a 4GB version out next Friday for €199, whereas the current 250GB one is €250. You can use USB sticks as storage up to 16GB, so that can be handy. I guess it depends how cheap you want to go!

Anyway, I think HMV or Xtravision are probably the best places to go. I find that shops that specialise in games have the best ways to shaft you! The games are always more expensive, and the staff are rarely any more knowledgeable.

Cows Go µ

I would really like an XBox but the house I'm living in next year will have at least 3 or 4 or something like that so there really isn't any point.

Just got Supersonic Racers and its so awesome, I'm willing myself not to play it because I need to study. Can't wait for no exams, I'm going to play that, Mario Galaxy 2 and Crash Bandicoot. And probably some Left for Dead and Team Fortress 2, I need to practice for netsoc or I will have my ass handed to me at the first lan night. Though that will probably happen anyway, they are way too good

Ginja Ninja

original mortal kombat it's only 1.5 MB file size and the nostalgia.It was the second game I ever played and the first fighting game ever

Konata

I played Street Fighter for the first time ever yesterday and GUESS WHAT? I beat D4RK ONION

He'll come on here and make silly excuses like "Pfft, it was only 1 round" and "I was using a pad, I can't play with a pad" and "BLAH BLAH BLAH" but really, a win is a win and I'm happy out

D4RK ONION

It was only one round! Not even a game! At least Synco got a whole match like :P

Konata

Who cares?! I never played it before! And you LOST.

I'm catching up with you on Rock Band too... 's only a matter of time before I'm better...

ironictoaster

I hope it wasn't a case of button bashing???

Konata

creggy wrote: »

I hope it wasn't a case of button bashing???

Oh no, pure skill was involved! I had those quarter circle forwards and medium punchs down pat! :cool:

D4RK ONION

As a Top 8 rank and seed in Ireland, I never button bash :P

Ginja Ninja

I honestly never expected to see you in a dick waving contest with your girlfriend DO, paranoid much?


Also,what do you play SSF4 on?

Pffft. Hardcore players use pads - for the extra challenge :rolleyes:

*goes off to suck at SF

ironictoaster

I was just thinking can you really button bash in SF4? Going back to the older games for SNES/Megadrive it never really worked (for me anyways...)

Davidius

Sure it does. It's the equivalent of flailing unpredictably in a fight.

creggy

creggy wrote: »

I was just thinking can you really button bash in SF4? Going back to the older games for SNES/Megadrive it never really worked (for me anyways...)

It's not really gonna happen, but if you mix a small amount of skill with a little bit of button-bashing I suppose you've a small chance that you'll play perfectly. It is a random event after all, button bashing.

D4RK ONION

Button bashing is reserved more for games like Tekken where series of random buttons give you endless different chains of moves. In SF there's a set of normal moves with one button presses and command moves (move the stick press a button) so button bashing is highly ineffective.

ironictoaster

Story of my life.

Jamie Starr

Been playing F-Zero GX with my brother, and Super Mario Soccer with various friends. Both great fun. Some Gamecube games (i.e some of the Nintendo ones) are timeless.

Banjo Fella

Agnostic Mantis wrote: »

Been playing F-Zero GX with my brother, and Super Mario Soccer with various friends. Both great fun. Some Gamecube games (i.e some of the Nintendo ones) are timeless.

+1! F-Zero GX is one of my favourite games ever. So fast and twitchy! o_o

Here's what I started playing today! Brilliant fun, but I'm exhausted right now so it's far too demanding for me in my current state. Can't wait to try again, though, it's such wonderfully reaction-based arcade fun.

D4RK ONION

Agnostic Mantis wrote: »

Been playing F-Zero GX with my brother, and Super Mario Soccer with various friends. Both great fun. Some Gamecube games (i.e some of the Nintendo ones) are timeless.

Syncosised will thank any post (and jizz a little) at any mention of the gamecube!

ironictoaster

So I decided to play UMK3 online there, people are ridiculously too good, couldn't keep up

Craguls

It's become self evident that I grind too much in Pokémon.

Nidoking: level 34
Amphoros: level 34
Pidgeot: level 36
Espeon: level 33
Typhlosion: level 39
Lapras: level 34

I'm at lake of rage >_<

Colm!

serious over-grinding
I was really pissed off that I couldn't capture that red garydos thing at lake of rage, I would have reloaded and retried, but I was playing on an iPod that auto-saved directly at the end of the battle
then, I had to upgrade my iPod to iOS4, and I lost my damn save-file
ffs

syncosised

Colm! wrote: »

serious over-grinding
I was really pissed off that I couldn't capture that red garydos thing at lake of rage, I would have reloaded and retried, but I was playing on an iPod that auto-saved directly at the end of the battle
then, I had to upgrade my iPod to iOS4, and I lost my damn save-file
ffs

Now normally I'd feel bad for someone in this case, but this is why you don't pirate!