Eurooptics - NightForce NXS 5.5-22x50 Mildot

vixdname

Lads, Am thinking of buying a NightForce NXS 5.5-22x50 Mildot scope from Eurooptics and would like to get some info from ye.
A./ Has anyone used Eurooptics before and if so how were they to deal with ?
B./ All the prices on the Eurooptics website have dollar signs before the price, so are these dollar prices or euro prices which you'd expect from a EUROoptic website ?
C./ Is there a huge difference between a 50mm and a 56mm scope..really ?
D./ In ye're opinions are Nightforce better then IOR scopes of similar pricing ?
E./ Has anyone got this make \ model scope and if so, how do you find it ?
F./ Is a Mildot reticle the best reticle to get for varmint \ target shooting at 300 yrds plus. (Using a remmy700 .223 with Accuracy International Stock)

Sorry about all the questions but before I hand out €1600 on glass I want to make sure all the boxes are ticked and reckon you lads are the best people to ask.

Tackleberrywho

vixdname wrote: »

Lads, Am thinking of buying a NightForce NXS 5.5-22x50 Mildot scope from Eurooptics and would like to get some info from ye.
A./ Has anyone used Eurooptics before and if so how were they to deal with ?
B./ All the prices on the Eurooptics website have dollar signs before the price, so are these dollar prices or euro prices which you'd expect from a EUROoptic website ?
C./ Is there a huge difference between a 50mm and a 56mm scope..really ? i have used both and would say the 56 is great for when light is fading without reducing magnification significantly
D./ In ye're opinions are Nightforce better then IOR scopes of similar pricing ? Can't comment on the latter as I have not used.
E./ Has anyone got this make \ model scope and if so, how do you find it ? Great, I use that model on my stalking rifle, I have taken head shot deer as a result.
F./ Is a Mildot reticle the best reticle to get for varmint \ target shooting at 300 yrds plus. (Using a remmy700 .223 with Accuracy International Stock)
My favourite reticle for varmint is the NPR 2 reticle, as it is great on game and the cross hairs are 2MOA which is very handy as the drop on a .223 200yard zero is ~2moa
Sorry about all the questions but before I hand out €1600 on glass I want to make sure all the boxes are ticked and reckon you lads are the best people to ask.

Perfect questions, I have a NF 5.5-22x56, and an 8-32x56. Both are great scopes, and I had Nikon and Swarofoski previously.
The externally adj Target turrets make it handy for adjusting windage or elevation on the hop.

Well worth the shillins IMHO, I bought 2 I was so impressed with the first one!

slippy wicket

The company are great to deal with, best thing to do is pick up the phone and give Alex a ring.
Just be aware, you will be hit for customs duty and vat, and it has to be paid on receipt of your item.

Jonty

vidxname,


Shop around in ireland first. These can be had for similar price.

http://www.shoot.ie/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=44


The above is just an example. It can be gotten cheaper if you shop around.

Tackleberrywho

slippy wicket wrote: »

The company are great to deal with, best thing to do is pick up the phone and give Alex a ring.
Just be aware, you will be hit for customs duty and vat, and it has to be paid on receipt of your item.

21% VAT 4% Customs tax, + 100 if item is over €1000 value, as per mate of mine;)
So expect a few hundred on to any item over €1000 there is different rates for over 3k AFAIK but these rates should explain how much FedEx will look for off ya;)

Cass

vixdname wrote: »

A./ Has anyone used Eurooptics before and if so how were they to deal with ?

Was going to, but found a better deal in the UK. Nice crowd to deal with and very helpful with any info needed. Best option is to ring rather than talk via e-mail. Ask for Alex in the sales team.

B./ All the prices on the Eurooptics website have dollar signs before the price, so are these dollar prices or euro prices which you'd expect from a EUROoptic website ?

It is an American company and all prices are in Dollars.

C./ Is there a huge difference between a 50mm and a 56mm scope..really ?

Not really. The 56mm lens will allow for more light and better clarity, but other than that both have the same moa for elevation and windage with subtle and mostly unnoticable differences.

D./ In ye're opinions are Nightforce better then IOR scopes of similar pricing ?

Personally .......... yes. I have 3 Nightforce and have used or owned most other makes. For the clarity, build and performance you will not find another scope that will do the same for the same money.

E./ Has anyone got this make \ model scope and if so, how do you find it ?

Not that particular model. I have the 8-32x56 Benchrest and NXS and also the 12-42x56 NXS. As a guide the 5.5-22x50/56 NXS will be every bit as good and definitely in build quality and performance simply with less magnification. Although it will still allow for up to 1,000 yd shooting (with the proper rifle/bullet)

F./ Is a Mildot reticle the best reticle to get for varmint \ target shooting at 300 yrds plus. (Using a remmy700 .223 with Accuracy International Stock)

The last one i bought was the 8-32x56 BR. It has the Mil-Dot reticle. I like it because it has the larger Mil-Dot for quick aquisition, but a smaller/finer Mil-Dot within the larger one to allow you to see the object. In other words the mil-dot does not block out your target be it game or target (paper). Have a look here, but use a larger image to fully see the reticle.

Sorry about all the questions but before I hand out €1600 on glass I want to make sure all the boxes are ticked and reckon you lads are the best people to ask.

On that note they can be got for less than that here. No need to go abroad.

Tackleberrywho

I used the high mag 8-32x56 Nigtforce scope today and got a pusheen rabbit @322 as per Nikon Buckmasters 800 Rangefinder.

The NPR reticle is great for hunting and very fine for small targets, as seen below:D
They are illum so bringing in from states now might not get passed homeland security AFAIK unless you are a RFD.

vixdname

Where in Ireland can any of you lads recommend I look for Nightforce scopes..any shops ye'd recommend..I dont mind travelling..I'm in the south east BTW.

Cass

Just after doing a little math (sorry it took so long, had to put socks back on).

Average price in Dollars = $1632.00
Thats €1330.73 in Euro. Now the fun begins.

V.A.T. @ 21% = €279.84
Customs @ 4.8% = €63.50

So thats €343.34. Add the scope price (€1330.73) and you have €1674.07.

Now add shipping of approx $60 (or so, depends on carrier). Thats €48.92.

Leaving you with a total of €1,772.99.

You cn buy a brand new 12-42x56 NXS for that money.

Also be aware that most if not all vendors are not permitted to ship Nightforce (scopes/products) outside of the U.S.A. (thats from Nightforce themselves) You may have heard of ways or people that got around this, but honestly for the money its not worth the headache. IMHO.

Cass

Sean Harding in Stakelums in Thurles usually carries a few Nightforces as does Jim Griffin in Tullamore as both of them supply a few lads in the MNSCI with firearms, ammo and gear they usually keep them in stock.

I know of a few others that somtimes have them, but do not want to suggest dealers and have you traveling if there are none in stock.

kay 9

Agree with Ezri, but what if the lad has someone in the states and they post it as a gift? Or simply take it in their case if travelling home for hols? Just an idea. Can such items be safely posted and not be recognised as anything other than a gift by the customs

Tackleberry.

give McCloy's up North a ring done a great with me last Sept on a 8x32-56 NXS

pat58

I was talking to optics wharehouse last week and they have a zeiss think it was 8-24x56 ,It was a demo model and they were looking 1400 euro shipped to ireland all in,;) If interested ring and ask for jp ,he is the sales manager

Cass

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A while ago i would have tried anything myself, but the prices in the USA seem to have risen and the Dollar has gained strength against the Euro making it cheaper to buy at home. Now if there was €50 or €100 in it i think i would still buy at home for the piece of mind of follow up service and for the sake of a small amount of money i would rather go local, and get my scope straight away.

Remember also that an export permit is needed for scopes coming in from the states.(on the dealers end/ his responsibility) As Ireland does not enjoy the open market/free trade policy the UK does it takes between 3-5 weeks for this permit.

Here is a thread about the same topic for some light reading.

Tackleberrywho

Gowen and Bradshaw are the sole importers of Nightforce optics into Ireland from Nightforce Direct.(as per Nightforce sales rep e-mail I recieved when wanting a Nightforce Shirt)
G&B sell to RFD's all over the country.

So you should be in luck.;)

pat58

Have to agree with ezridax not so easy or straight forward to deal in the us , Thats why i found optics wharehouse uk very good

Tackleberrywho

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Gowen and Bradshaw are the sole importers of Nightforce optics into Ireland from Nightforce Direct.(as per Nightforce sales rep e-mail I recieved when wanting a Nightforce Shirt)
G&B sell to RFD's all over the country.

So you should be in luck.;)

Duffy in galway has them listed on his website www.shoot.ie

He has copied and pasted direct from NF website but prices are in €€€€ NXS 5.5-22x56 €1588.43

pat58

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Duffy in galway has them listed on his website www.shoot.ie

He has copied and pasted direct from NF website but prices are in €€€€ NXS 5.5-22x56 €1588.43

Your a sound guy;)

Tackleberrywho

pat58 wrote: »

Your a sound guy;)

I try to help when I can.
I found out all that stuff the hard way.

Nightforce are a great scope for what you give for them.
I bought 2, I'll buy a 3rd before the summer is out, all things going well.

I had toyed with importing them at the time but decided against it.
I would also recommend Burris tactical mounts as the NF are very expensive.

The Caveat being the scope with a 56mm bell sits quite high, hence my purchase of a Karsten cheek piece.
So Vic I would consider a karsten also, €57 and you have a real shooter

pat58

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I try to help when I can.
I found out all that stuff the hard way.

Nightforce are a great scope for what you give for them.
I bought 2, I'll buy a 3rd before the summer is out, all things going well.

I had toyed with importing them at the time but decided against it.
I would also recommend Burris tactical mounts as the NF are very expensive.

The Caveat being the scope with a 56mm bell sits quite high, hence my purchase of a Karsten cheek piece.
So Vic I would consider a karsten also, €57 and you have a real shooter

I said your sound and your not happy:rolleyes: If i call my self ferg will you like me then , I only came on to say that optics whare house are doing some great offers;)

Cass

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

The Caveat being the scope with a 56mm bell sits quite high,,..........

I had a big post all written out then re-read your post and realised i was taking it up wrong.

Anyway, 56mm or 50mm. You only see half the difference so the 56mm actually sits 3mm higher than the 50mm. Thats 0.11 inches. Nothing really.

I will agree on the Karsten. If for nothing else the comfort value. It is more positional than a standard cheek riser on most/all rifles. Looks somewhat "out of place", but if looking for clean hits or good scores i don't care about looks.

Tackleberrywho

ezridax wrote: »

I had a big post all written out then re-read your post and realised i was taking it up wrong.

Anyway, 56mm or 50mm. You only see half the difference so the 56mm actually sits 3mm higher than the 50mm. Thats 0.11 inches. Nothing really.

I will agree on the Karsten. If for nothing else the comfort value. It is more positional than a standard cheek riser on most/all rifles. Looks somewhat "out of place", but if looking for clean hits or good scores i don't care about looks.

I agree about the comfort thing, the less stress the easier the shooting.
The 3mm can be just too high for some, I could use it for 2 years, but I have more comfort since I bought the Karsten.
I got some nice shooting this evening as a result of Karsten & NF, several rabbits in a Silage field. Last rabbit shot 22:05 just before light faded.
I was on 16X with the illum on, Nice bunny @234 yards. Best today 322yards

Tackleberrywho

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I agree about the comfort thing, the less stress the easier the shooting.
The 3mm can be just too high for some, I could use it for 2 years, but I have more comfort since I bought the Karsten.
I got some nice shooting this evening as a result of Karsten & NF, several rabbits in a Silage field. Last rabbit shot 22:05 just before light faded.
I was on 16X with the illum on, Nice bunny @234 yards. Best today 322yards

Even used in movies
!!

Tackleberrywho

pat58 wrote: »

I said your sound and your not happy:rolleyes: If i call my self ferg will you like me then , I only came on to say that optics whare house are doing some great offers;)

In a recession Irish People should spend as much as they can in Ireland.
Every € spent has the affect of €4 in the economy.

And Nightforce are the business

vixdname

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Duffy in galway has them listed on his website www.shoot.ie

He has copied and pasted direct from NF website but prices are in €€€€ NXS 5.5-22x56 €1588.43

Thanks TAC, It will work out just about perfect for that model with €1600 to spend, I'll give Duffys a buzz tomorrow.
Well by the sounds of it, Nightforce scopes are well liked by you guys and thats good enough for me.
Thanks for all the info. lads, ye just made my mind up for me!!!

Tackleberrywho

vixdname wrote: »

Thanks TAC, It will work out just about perfect for that model with €1600 to spend, I'll give Duffys a buzz tomorrow.
Well by the sounds of it, Nightforce scopes are well liked by you guys and thats good enough for me.
Thanks for all the info. lads, ye just made my mind up for me!!!

Honestly i think Little can touch them, McBride in athlone sells them also if Distance is an issue.

Once you buy one you will never go back!
Built of strong stuff, Built to last.
I'd love a few more if I could afford them

doyle61

was going to buy nightforce myself but couldnt push the budget any further (herself was about to have a cannery:p:p) so i went for IOR. spent just over €1200 for mine and think it was money well spent. when you look at it, its basically a Zeiss for less money. anyway, with either scope you cant go wrong

tac foley

I have both Nightforce and IOR [as well as Hensoldt and S&B] - YOU decide -

http://www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-5666.html
http://www.border-barrels.co.uk/telescopic-sights-8-c.asp
tac
Supporter of the Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund

freddieot

Have Nightforce 12-42x56. Bought new about 7 years ago and now on it's third rifle, even had to cut it out of the last set of rings as some of the screws had been overtightened. Unstoppable and well worth the money. You'll only cry once

BELOWaverageIQ

I know a dealer that has a brand new 5.5-22x56 with a MLR rect. that can be bought for €1300.
Or at least it was still there a few weeks ago.
I was thinking of buying it myself but I've spent WAY too much this year on shooting already.

Tackleberrywho

BELOWaverageIQ wrote: »

I know a dealer that has a brand new 5.5-22x56 with a MLR rect. Hat can be bought for €1300.
Or at least it was still there a few weeks ago.
Inwas thinking of buying it myself but I've spent WAY too much this year on shooting.

Give OP the county where it is, or PM him the details.

BELOWaverageIQ

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Give OP the county where it is, or PM him the details.

I did.

pat58

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

In a recession Irish People should spend as much as they can in Ireland.
Every € spent has the affect of €4 in the economy.

And Nightforce are the business

Quiet noble of you tac ,But in this economy i believe the best option is value for money ,And if a scope can be bought a euro cheaper else ware ,Then thats the place to buy ,Ware i come from there is an old saying a penny saved is a penny earned;) But lets face it we are not talking about a penny ,Are we;)

tac foley

pat58 wrote: »

Quiet noble of you tac ,But in this economy i believe the best option is value for money ,And if a scope can be bought a euro cheaper else ware ,Then thats the place to buy ,Ware i come from there is an old saying a penny saved is a penny earned;) But lets face it we are not talking about a penny ,Are we;)

Aaha, I foresee a minor problem here - since my name is tac. For a moment I thought I was getting a KUTA for a post I hadn't made, until I read it carefully.

I might have to change my name to avoid having somebody else's opinions attributed to me....

However, with the prices you guys have to pay for just about everything, I DO agree with this one. ; )

tac
Supporter of the Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund

Tackleberrywho

tac foley wrote: »

Aaha, I foresee a minor problem here - since my name is tac. For a moment I thought I was getting a KUTA for a post I hadn't made, until I read it carefully.

I might have to change my name to avoid having somebody else's opinions attributed to me....

However, with the prices you guys have to pay for just about everything, I DO agree with this one. ; )

tac
Supporter of the Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund

No need to change your name tac.
On the point of buying cheapest, one could be penny wise, pound foolish.
If a guy can buy a scope in ireland spendinng his cash in Ireland, for a price he is willing to pay.
We gave the queen our shillin for long enough, we try when we can to keep money in the country.
Nightforce scopes can be bought here quite reasonable and are of the utmost quality, so at least the revenue has a % spent in our country, keeping jobs in our country.
But as this is off thread I fill finish on this.
Too many threads seem to be going off topic lately.
Nightforce scopes are readily available in Ireland for reasonable rates, AFAIK the OP is quiet happy buying here where they come with a dealers warranty under the sale of goods and supply of services act 1980.;)
So if the user for any reason is not happy he can get his money back, much more difficult if purchased over seas;)

Vegeta

I have a 12-42x56 Nightforce bought from Duffy's in Galway, have it about 4 years I think

Pros:
Build quality is great and scope is rugged. Works flawlessly, glass is good even at 42 times magnification I can still focus the scope perfectly with no issues.

Cons:
Price. Eye piece rotates when increasing magnification so it can be tricky using a protective cover for the eye piece. Poor transmission of colour, while the scope focuses perfectly I find the image is washed out colour wise. Don't know why but it is very apparent between my scope and a friends varmint Leupold. Could be because my model is the 12-42 model and wouldn't be the best for light transmission anyway. As with most scopes I have ever used at the highest magnification it takes a few seconds to settle and line up the eye relief perfectly but it is worth mentioning anyway. My reticle is in the second focal plane and therefore has the associated drawbacks and makes the fancy reticle a bit redundant unless at the specified R magnification setting(think it's about 24 or 26).


My advice is get the 8-32x56 scope if you want long range varminting, from memory I think it has more MOA adjustment. You don't really need the super high magnification (32 is a load anyway) and with the lower mag I guess it might be better at colour transmission than mine.

Vegeta

Oh and I have a rule

If spending lots of money on non consumable items I ask myself, "What if this breaks? How easily can I get it repaired or replaced?"

Generally I prefer to go with a well established bricks and mortar shop with a proven track record for customer service as opposed to a faceless website. Especially if the difference is only 50-100 euro.

Nothing to do with promoting the Irish economy, purely to do with my own selfish wish for a quieter life if something does go wrong.

pat58

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

No need to change your name tac.
On the point of buying cheapest, one could be penny wise, pound foolish.
If a guy can buy a scope in ireland spendinng his cash in Ireland, for a price he is willing to pay.
We gave the queen our shillin for long enough, we try when we can to keep money in the country.
Nightforce scopes can be bought here quite reasonable and are of the utmost quality, so at least the revenue has a % spent in our country, keeping jobs in our country.
But as this is off thread I fill finish on this.
Too many threads seem to be going off topic lately.
Nightforce scopes are readily available in Ireland for reasonable rates, AFAIK the OP is quiet happy buying here where they come with a dealers warranty under the sale of goods and supply of services act 1980.;)
So if the user for any reason is not happy he can get his money back, much more difficult if purchased over seas;)

Little heads up tack:rolleyes:....at least 90% of all scopes and other gear are sold through a euro agents ..ie england .....to irish dealers and then on to us irish shooters;).So by saying anything about the queens shillen is a little backward and so yester..year:(.If irish dealers have a problem with warranty on a scopes because it wasent baught from his or her shop and they lost out on their cut ,your dealing with the wrong gun shop. A wise man once told never argue with a fool, He will only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience ,
I was under the belief this tread was about scope selection , sales , Experance and the odd bit of fact :rolleyes:

Sorry about the hijack ,Back on topic;)

bunny shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

............We gave the queen our shillin for long enough, we try when we can to keep money in the country............

Proper little Republican aren't you :rolleyes:

The proper term is "taking the Queen/King's shilling" and it refers to the payment of a shilling that a new recruit recieved as an enlistment bonus when he enlisted into the British Army and which the Irish have used in a derogratary way to those same Irishmen, even up to the current day

Now for us to keep our shillings, how many English companies now do business with our beloved country and provide jobs here, which are badly needed. I know lots of lads who once again have emigrated to England as things have gone tits up here AGAIN. I have spent time working in England and was bloody glad of a job there as there was sod all here for me at the time !!!!!!

Bloody plastic Republicans :rolleyes:

But to get back on topic....buy where ever you get best price as apparently these scopes are bomb proof, according to our resident expert who seems to be doing an awful lot of back seat modding too

tac foley

Well, gentlemen, I have no ax to grind, no any vested interests, since I have at least one of most of the later scopes, and a good few of the older ones too on a selection of rifles from .22 to .308win [and a handgun, too].

Sooooooooo, I'll gently point you in the direction of the latest issue of the UK's only on-line shooting magazine - http://www.targetshooter.co.uk/ - page 17, to be precise, and let you all have a read of the article there.

Certainly worth a look, IMO.

And for those of you [quite a few, as far as I can see] who have capacious amounts of money to spend, don't overlook US Optics in your rush to be parted from much of your bank balance.

As for me and my opinion, I'll buy whatever looks best to me when I peer through it, regardless who makes it. But then, since I'm already over my limit as far as new guns are concerned, it is all p & w for me. : (

tac
Supporter of the Cape Meares Lighthouse Restoration Fund

Tackleberrywho

Vegeta wrote: »

Oh and I have a rule

If spending lots of money on non consumable items I ask myself, "What if this breaks? How easily can I get it repaired or replaced?"

Generally I prefer to go with a well established bricks and mortar shop with a proven track record for customer service as opposed to a faceless website. Especially if the difference is only 50-100 euro.

Nothing to do with promoting the Irish economy, purely to do with my own selfish wish for a quieter life if something does go wrong.

I suppose I am wasting my time promoting the Irish economy as nobody will heed it.( I personally try to buy Irish or support Irish traders if the price difference is small. A lot of RFD's are feeling the pressure like everyone else, for various reasons including licencing)

My main point is if for some reason something goes wrong with scope it is better to be able to bring it back to the shop.
I'd deffo agree on the 8-32 for varminting. I got 4 nice rabbits today with said scope all head shots in excess of 200 yards.
I have known of a few collegues of mine having difficulty with min of 12x scope.
The 8x is fine for shooting from the shoulder.
The 5.5-22 is better for hunting as it works better in dull conditions and very fast sight acquisition.
If a scope breaks or was damaged through user neglect they can be brought back to dealer/Importer and then back to manufacturer if needed.
I have bought some low cost items online, Patsat tried to buy a bushnell yardage pro scope and AKAIK US Homeland security stopped it at customs.

Going to Europe for a purchase is fine, but if the price is +/- €50 here why bother?
in regards to magnification, it actually works better on cool bright days n high mag as on hot days the high mag mags mirage too, which is a skill to read correctly.
Butler creek lens cap for front is only needed, stops drops of rain when rifle is slung, not really necessary on eye piece, as the eye piece revolves as Vegata already mentioned. I would not bother with sunshade for hunting, i only use it in summer on the varmint, I have it off the Stalking scope as it gets a smidgen more light I think without
So OP if it is for €1350~ in Ireland, then why go else where?

doyle61

when i was looking to buy a nightforce last year i was thinking of buying from the states but then i was told of all the drawbacks as said above. turns out the ior scope was roughly the same price here as in other countries; not even €100:cool:
proves that if you shop around there are deals to be got...........even in ireland:D

vixdname

I rang Duffys of Galway today and got him to out away a Nightforce NXS 5.5-22X56 scope with the NP-R2 reticle, I was looking at this reticle on opticsplanet.com as it shows up close what the reticles are like and I liked this one, so i said feck it....I'll av one !!!!!
Have read plenty of good reviews on the NXS scopes and am glad I'm getting to spend my cash at home.
Have to agree aswell that its always a lot better to have dealt with a shop rather then a website if things go wrong especially when your talking about a decent amount of cash.
Thanks for all the help and info lads, much appreciated.

Cass

Vegeta wrote: »

Cons:
Price.......

Agree with everything except the price thing.

The price of them up to a year or so ago were over the €2K mark, but they have slowly dropped. Compare that to some S&Bs and especially Swarovski. €2500+ with less mag power and no discernable extra clarity, and thats only up to 800 yds.

Now i'm not a Nightforce "groupie". Yes i have a few, but thats after trying other scopes and mine are all used solely for target work during the day so i've no comments to make on dusk/dawn shooting, etc, etc.

dwighet

Buy 2nd hand....I have had two 2nd hand nightforces over the years and me thinks a 2nd hand high end scope is just as good as a new one...
I picked up a mint nxs 8-32x56 18 months ago for 850 stirling.
Just recently got a mint 2nd hand zeiss conquest 4.5-14x44 for my 7mm08 stalking rifle for 400 euro.....
I just recently saw a nxs 4-15 x 56 for 650 stirling...If I had the funds that would be mine aswell for my fox gun..

It pays to shop around on other hunting forums...

Vegeta

ezridax wrote: »

Agree with everything except the price thing.

The price of them up to a year or so ago were over the €2K mark, but they have slowly dropped. Compare that to some S&Bs and especially Swarovski. €2500+ with less mag power and no discernable extra clarity, and thats only up to 800 yds.

Now i'm not a Nightforce "groupie". Yes i have a few, but thats after trying other scopes and mine are all used solely for target work during the day so i've no comments to make on dusk/dawn shooting, etc, etc.

I agree with every point you've made there ezridax but I'd consider price a con with all of those scopes.

Tackleberrywho

dwighet wrote: »

Buy 2nd hand....I have had two 2nd hand nightforces over the years and me thinks a 2nd hand high end scope is just as good as a new one...
I picked up a mint nxs 8-32x56 18 months ago for 850 stirling.
Just recently got a mint 2nd hand zeiss conquest 4.5-14x44 for my 7mm08 stalking rifle for 400 euro.....
I just recently saw a nxs 4-15 x 56 for 650 stirling...If I had the funds that would be mine aswell for my fox gun..

It pays to shop around on other hunting forums...

I concur, I bought the 8-32 new; But I got the 5.5-22x56 of same dealer second hand for closer to a grand!

jwshooter

there is better scopes out there for the same money as nightforce .

iv a nxs i dont think its as good as my TDS4

dwighet

jwshooter wrote: »

there is better scopes out there for the same money as nightforce .

iv a nxs i dont think its as good as my TDS4

tds4? whats that mate?

Tackleberrywho

dwighet wrote: »

tds4? whats that mate?

It's a swarovski, I had a 6-24x50 model, I still pefer my NF 8-32x56, far easier scope to use, especially with paralax at fingers reach

It wasn't me!

dwighet wrote: »

tds4? whats that mate?

It's the reticle in a Swarovski.