What is the Healthiest Takeaway option

Dancingjebus3

Got exams, have no food in the house to cook dont have time to go buy some cause i dont drive, so my only option is looking like takeaway,

anyone any suggestions what my healthiest options are???? (trying to throw on some size body wise but really trying to restrict the amount of fat I put on with it so cant go too mad with this takeaway)also in ballyfermot area so pretty central for options on takeway???

helimachoptor

They did this on Brainiac a few years ago, apparently in a lot of cases a Fresh cod and chips is better than a lot of "healthy version" ready meals.

AARRRGH

If cash isn't a problem could you use something like restaurant express to get proper food?

Dancingjebus3

unfortunately cash is an issue, im a student and haven been able to work many hours cause of exams so looking for something well under the 10 euro bracket.

AARRRGH

Could you walk to your local shop and get a litre of milk and 6 eggs?

A large omelette and a very large glass of milk will fill you up.

Magic Eight Ball

Healthiest Takeaway? Wishful thinking OP!
You seriously can't get to your local shop? Not even for the sake of eating proper food?

helimachoptor

OP should have posted this somewhere else :D:D

Inspector Coptoor

chicken shop suey with extra veg instead of rice or chips from the chinese is probably the healthiest take away meal i can thinkl of

Ciaran500

You're not going to get a healthy take away.

Just eat crap food or make it to some shop to pick up some basics.

Dancingjebus3

Takeaway might not seem like it should be in fitness forum but you will find in most bodybuilding diets that there is a thing called a cheat meal which is a meal to take a break from the strict diet that you are on the rest of the week as to make sure you stick to that diet for a long period of time.
thanks Liam, I am perfectly aware that takeaway is crap but if im going to eat crap food i dont want it to be too bad..

ray jay

seconding the chinese with veg instead of rice. Just avoid any of the sweeter dishes, they have tonnes of sugar in them

Scuba Ste

Dancingjebus3 wrote: »

Takeaway might not seem like it should be in fitness forum but you will find in most bodybuilding diets that there is a thing called a cheat meal which is a meal to take a break from the strict diet that you are on the rest of the week as to make sure you stick to that diet for a long period of time.
thanks Liam, I am perfectly aware that takeaway is crap but if im going to eat crap food i dont want it to be too bad..

Are you a bodybuilder??

Get a triple quarterpounder. If your gonna cheat, cheat big.

BigBraveBear

Just goin for the chicken biryani from the Indian now meself, lot of bad fat in it I think, but its bleedin delish!

Dancingjebus3

Scuba ste, depends on what you mean by bodybuilder, i dont compete if thats your question but I do workout frequently so really depends on what your definition of a bodybuilder is... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/whatisbb.htm

Mellor

Dancingjebus3 wrote: »

Scuba ste, depends on what you mean by bodybuilder, i dont compete if thats your question but I do workout frequently so really depends on what your definition of a bodybuilder is... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/whatisbb.htm

I think the fact that you posted that link answers the question. No you are not a bodybuilder.



OP, I was getting a fast food diner last night. And couldn't bring myself to get burger and chips. THe best I found was a kebab.

And before anybody jumps in with OMG Kebabs R D Worstest.
I'm not in ireland, kebabs here are miles away from the pitta filled with greasy lamb, cabbage and tons of mayo.

Here it was , a wrap, with shredded chicken, raw lettuce, tomato, and onion, with hot sauce. The wrap is carbs, the chicken protein and fats. The rest is pretty negligible.
I dunno if you could get a chipper to make you one like this.

WalterMitty

Southern fried chicken breasts but no chips. Looking at the nutrition on kfc.co.uk they aint too bad with plenty of protein. The breasts u get in most chippers are also usually healthier than kfc as less fat and more meat IME.

Dancingjebus3

Mellor wrote: »

I think the fact that you posted that link answers the question. No you are not a bodybuilder.

wow people really do get upset over the smallest of things..

rubadub

Tandoori chicken, no naan, no rice.

Here are some I worked out before over in nutrition & diet -and yes, wayyyy too much time on my hands...

rubadub wrote: »

Bag of chips from Italian chipper 455g

Going off mc-cains site their premium chips are 253kcal and 7.2g fat sat per 100g

So 1,151kcal and 33g sat fat so 24.5points for the bag.
http://points.ogo.ms/

There is an interview with the italian chipper association guys on youtube, one guy said they used lard, another said a typical fish & chips has about 800kcal! no way in hell!

rubadub wrote: »

I got a singapore chow mein last week, weighed 800g.
Using this calculator http://points.ogo.ms/
I hit 5.5 points at 370kcal presuming zero fat (and it was fairly greasy)
That means if this was true then it was 46.25kcal per 100g. I would estimate it at 250kcal per 100g though, this is comparing it to supermaret ready meals and the fact that the noodles are much denser, i.e. not boiled to death where they take up lots of water. A single pack of 80-100g dry supernoodles can be 550-600kcal. I would also conservatively estimate 5% fat since it was fried noodles & meat and quite oily, so 40g of fat, and 20g goes in my calculator. So using the same calculator I would estimate 33.5points.

(I mention 5.5 WW points since one UK guide estimates a takeaway as that!

rubadub wrote: »

Just back from the Chinese now, chips weighing in at 395g, so 853kcal, 4.3g sat fat, so 13.5 points. Again that is conservative using the McCains figures which are probably lower than usual to appear lower in cals.

rubadub wrote: »

My usual was chicken balls, curry sauce, chips (I know not chinese!).

I got it and it weighed loads, always did. So I got home and weighed each to see what I used to be eating.
Chips- 520g (no joke! my scales is fine)
Chicken balls- 350g
Sauce- 200g.

I reckon the chips are ~250kcal per 100g, chicken ~300kcal/100g, sauce 150kcal/100g. Those are probably conservative figures, chicken balls are really just donuts, and sauce is probably loaded with oil.

So probably at least 2500kcal in all.

rubadub wrote: »

I am just back from "lets eat in", the portions looked small compared to the usual chinese/indian takeaways huge helpings. They are in cubic boxes so it is deceiving. I am in work & had a scales handy, I also like to calculate calories to show people the reality of takeaway portions, rice was 310g, korma was 520g. 830g in total, now most microwave kormas are 300-400g, so it is over twice that. The rice was the size of a decent mug.

I would guess at least 1200kcal, will have to have a look at some rich korma sauce labels and try and figure it out better.

1ceman

I totally hear you OP. Ours is a pretty busy home and we're not the best at cooking so when it comes to getting take away I'd love for there to be a healthy option...

Back home, pretty much all the places that do chinese for example will have a healthy option menu that's actually not totally crap.

Check this out:
http://www.nings.is/FileLib/skjalasafn/MatEnskurFram.pdf

Oh and the most expensive you can go on those healthy menus is about €11-12

Sorry for not being of much use to you but a take away with healthy options is something I wish for every week over here... :rolleyes:

iceage

Chicken Shashlik. Eat it out of the container, leave all the oil in the bottom of the tin. Smashing.

copacetic

Mellor wrote: »

OP, I was getting a fast food diner last night. And couldn't bring myself to get burger and chips. THe best I found was a kebab.

And before anybody jumps in with OMG Kebabs R D Worstest.
I'm not in ireland, kebabs here are miles away from the pitta filled with greasy lamb, cabbage and tons of mayo.

Here it was , a wrap, with shredded chicken, raw lettuce, tomato, and onion, with hot sauce. The wrap is carbs, the chicken protein and fats. The rest is pretty negligible.
I dunno if you could get a chipper to make you one like this.

A zaytoons chicken shish, is quite good here. Lumps of marinated chicken breast, grilled. Tomato, red oinion, lettuce with sauce in a freshly baked wrap.

Amazingly tasty and not overly unhealthy.

BrianD3

Great post rubadub. From the Chinese I would generally get sweet and sour chicken (in batter!) or chicken with cashew nuts, both with fried rice. Portions are massive and they are laden with oil and probably salt. Based on extrapolating from supermarket ready meals, I would not be surprised if the calories from one Chinese takeaway was over 2500 calories.

Gaz

A McDonalds grilled chicken salad (no dressing) is perfectly healthy but if your getting fast food just go for it, once in awhile is not going to kill you.

Mellor

Dancingjebus3 wrote: »

wow people really do get upset over the smallest of things..

Not upset, you were asked a question and didn't answer very clearly.

copacetic wrote: »

A zaytoons chicken shish, is quite good here. Lumps of marinated chicken breast, grilled. Tomato, red oinion, lettuce with sauce in a freshly baked wrap.

Amazingly tasty and not overly unhealthy.

Yeah, zaytoon's would be close to what I was describing. That kind is pretty much the norm here.
How healthy is basically comes down to beef or chicken. Which sauce and if you include hommus and the like. (I know hommus isn't bad, but it pushes cals up) I'd estimate you can go one for >500 cals

Dolores Hayes

Kanum in Ballsbridge do healthy MSG-free meals for around 10/11 euro and they are delicious.

telecaster

vegetable curry with boiled rice perhaps?

sgarvan

Dolores Hayes wrote: »

Kanum in Ballsbridge do healthy MSG-free meals for around 10/11 euro and they are delicious.

Why drag up a two year old thread?

Zamboni

sgarvan wrote: »

Why drag up a two year old thread?

To advertise a restaurant by the looks of it.

xgtdec

Not that i want to take you away from whats no doubt the most important study material ever, but if you have time to arse around online looking for suggestions about food, then you have time to get to proper grub.

Aquarius34

A non dairy Indian curry with rice of most sorts are pretty much okish

nice_guy80

cook a big lot of food on sunday and freeze it.

then you will have ready made healthy meals for the week
job done

also, eggs are your friend - omlettes.

Aquarius34

nice_guy80 wrote: »

cook a big lot of food on sunday and freeze it.

then you will have ready made healthy meals for the week
job done

also, eggs are your friend - omlettes.

freezing food like that is lazy and is not actually that good for you.

nice_guy80

Aquarius34 wrote: »

freezing food like that is lazy and is not actually that good for you.

really?

must give out to my mother for doing it for years so.

the OP said she doesn't have time to prepare meals - solution? prepare them at start of the week

misterdeeds

Southern fried chicken(breast) and wedges and a carton of milk ?
my local chipper steam the southern fried chicken and the wedges are cooked in an oven ,
The healtiest take away i can think of

Zombienosh

haha healthy take away.....

Aquarius34

nice_guy80 wrote: »

really?

must give out to my mother for doing it for years so.

the OP said she doesn't have time to prepare meals - solution? prepare them at start of the week

Time to prepare meals?
That's ridiculous. She has time to post threads on the internet stating how she doesn't have time to prepare food and yet she could of prepared a meal quite easily in the time she spent here on a forum posting about how she didn't have time to cook up a meal.

Freezing food, and eating take away as a habit is just a bad idea. To try find a healthy take away option is hard enough but to eat take away food all the time is not advisable as part of a healthy diet.

deadlybuzzman

Aquarius34 wrote: »

freezing food like that is lazy and is not actually that good for you.

howcome?

Oisinjm

Dolores Hayes wrote: »

Kanum in Ballsbridge do healthy MSG-free meals for around 10/11 euro and they are delicious.

I'd second that. In terms of Irish takeaways, Thai food is the freshest I've found. Tasty as well. Just get something like Laap Gai, diced chicken with a load of flavour. Plenty of decent options on Thai menus and it's not processed shíte.

Oisín

Knockout_91

This probably isn't going to go down well here in the fitness forum but according to weight watchers, this is the order of how bad takeaways are...

1) Dominos (Pizza in general) - a full medium pizza is TWO whole days worth of points.
2) Eddie Rockets - a milkshake alone is a whole days worth of points.
3) Burger King/McDonalds - two double cheeseburgers contains a whole days worth of points.
4) Chinese - still quite bad but you could definitely fit it into your daily points if you order correctly It's not half as bad as the other three.

Mellor

Knockout_91 wrote: »

This probably isn't going to go down well here in the fitness forum but according to weight watchers, this is the order of how bad takeaways are...

1) Dominos (Pizza in general) - a full medium pizza is TWO whole days worth of points.
2) Eddie Rockets - a milkshake alone is a whole days worth of points.
3) Burger King/McDonalds - two double cheeseburgers contains a whole days worth of points.
4) Chinese - still quite bad but you could definitely fit it into your daily points if you order correctly It's not half as bad as the other three.

Are you using pro points or the old points, as the old one are very flawed.

But it comes down to what you order and the portion size. A lot of Chinese meals would be worse than 2 double cheese burgers.

ebixa82

Aquarius34 wrote: »

freezing food like that is lazy and is not actually that good for you.

This is a ridiculous statement. What is wrong with freezing a home made meal, cooked from scratch? Please explain how it is not good for you?
You have no idea what you are on about.

Cooking in bulk and freezing is a great way of always having healthy, home made food whenever needed, just as in the OP's situation.

ebixa82

Healthy take away is an oxymoron, but in recent years, many (mainly thai) restaurants have copped on to people's desire to eat healthily and have adapted their menus accordingly.
BUT if you are going to have a take away, just go and enjoy it. Maybe avoid prawn crackers and fried rice, just don't take the piss. If you have a take away one day per week but eat healthily the other six then it's not an issue.

I'm talking about indian/thai menus mainly.

Pizzas are disgustingly high in fats and calories..they are just not worth the hassle.

Knockout_91

Mellor wrote: »

Are you using pro points or the old points, as the old one are very flawed.

But it comes down to what you order and the portion size. A lot of Chinese meals would be worse than 2 double cheese burgers.

I am using ProPoints.

I took into consideration the portion size when I gave those guidelines. A chicken curry and boiled rice are the exact same ProPoints as 2 double cheese burgers - and a lot more filling for the OP

Cheat day or no cheat day, I don't think I could ever eat another Dominos despite how amazing it is! Sad times

Aquarius34

ebixa82 wrote: »

This is a ridiculous statement. What is wrong with freezing a home made meal, cooked from scratch? Please explain how it is not good for you?
You have no idea what you are on about.

Cooking in bulk and freezing is a great way of always having healthy, home made food whenever needed, just as in the OP's situation.

Fresh food is always better than eating from frozen. You get best nutrients when they are fresh. When you freeze food it's quality and taste wears off. The only way to know that is try eating fresh food everyday for a month and then eat frozen food for a month. You'll notice the difference.

Second point, you have to defrost it and most people use microwaves to defrost food. Microwave's gives off radiation, which I am sure you know. Not only that it nucs the food and kills of the remaining nutrients that survived the thawing...

You can freeze food all you want, but if you want to talk about health, than at least know what healthy eating means. Freezing food is only done when food is scarce to eat. There really is no reason to freeze food whatsoever.

So if you are not familiar with healthy eating, don't assume you know what you're talking about. I suppose what I am trying to say is, if you want to eat healthily, you can't cheat yourself to a healthy way of life.

ebixa82

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Fresh food is always better than eating from frozen. You get best nutrients when they are fresh. When you freeze food it's quality and taste wears off. The only way to know that is try eating fresh food everyday for a month and then eat frozen food for a month. You'll notice the difference.

Second point, you have to defrost it and most people use microwaves to defrost food. Microwave's gives off radiation, which I am sure you know. Not only that it nucs the food and kills of the remaining nutrients that survived the thawing...

You can freeze food all you want, but if you want to talk about health, than at least know what healthy eating means. Freezing food is only done when food is scarce to eat. There really is no reason to freeze food whatsoever.

So if you are not familiar with healthy eating, don't assume you know what you're talking about. I suppose what I am trying to say is, if you want to eat healthily, you can't cheat yourself to a healthy way of life.

So many things wrong with above post.

Having worked as a chef for years I think I understand the science behind what happens when food is frozen.

Frozen veg are just as nutritious as fresh veg when frozen correctly. Frozen meals too.

I cook and freeze batches as I don't have time mid week to spend an hour cooking certain dishes midweek, but love cooking at weekends.
Granted I can prepare a salad and some chicken/fish/steak in 20 mins flat.

Food is never scarce, as you claim, time is.

I don't own a microwave so I decide in the morning what I will eat, take it out and it will be ready when I return from work. So your radiation argument is void.

So, there you go, your argument is redundant.

Aquarius34

ebixa82 wrote: »

So many things wrong with above post.

Having worked as a chef for years I think I understand the science behind what happens when food is frozen.

Frozen veg are just as nutritious as fresh veg when frozen correctly. Frozen meals too.

No it's not.

I cook and freeze batches as I don't have time mid week to spend an hour cooking certain dishes midweek, but love cooking at weekends.
Granted I can prepare a salad and some chicken/fish/steak in 20 mins flat.

Food is never scarce, as you claim, time is.

I never claimed food was scarce, you don't read properly. I said, food was initially frozen to when food does go scarce. food today, has no reason to be frozen. The healthiest way you can possibly eat is to eat food fresh so you get the best nutrients available.

I don't own a microwave so I decide in the morning what I will eat, take it out and it will be ready when I return from work. So your radiation argument is void.

Fair enough, I complement you with that, as most people tend own microwaves.

So, there you go, your argument is redundant.

No it isn't.

ebixa82

Aquarius34 wrote: »

No it's not.



I never claimed food was scarce, you don't read properly. I said, food was initially frozen to when food does go scarce. food today, has no reason to be frozen. The healthiest way you can possibly eat is to eat food fresh so you get the best nutrients available.



Fair enough, I complement you with that, as most people tend own microwaves.


No it isn't.

It is a very common practice for people to cook home made meals, often at the weekend when they have time, and freeze them so they can be eaten again midweek when they don't have time.

There is a HUGE reason for food to be frozen, it's because people who work long hours do not have the time to cook a meal after a long day, but still want the option of a home cooked meal.

Just so you know, if I cook a meal from scratch, freeze it, defrost it naturally and reheat it in a pan or in the oven, there is a negligible reduction in nutritional value.

Aquarius34

ebixa82 wrote: »

It is a very common practice for people to cook home made meals, often at the weekend when they have time, and freeze them so they can be eaten again midweek when they don't have time.

There is a HUGE reason for food to be frozen, it's because people who work long hours do not have the time to cook a meal after a long day, but still want the option of a home cooked meal.

Just so you know, if I cook a meal from scratch, freeze it, defrost it naturally and reheat it in a pan or in the oven, there is a negligible reduction in nutritional value.

I don't believe anyone should be working long hours, so I am out of that argument.

Brian?

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Fresh food is always better than eating from frozen. You get best nutrients when they are fresh. When you freeze food it's quality and taste wears off. The only way to know that is try eating fresh food everyday for a month and then eat frozen food for a month. You'll notice the difference.

Second point, you have to defrost it and most people use microwaves to defrost food. Microwave's gives off radiation, which I am sure you know. Not only that it nucs the food and kills of the remaining nutrients that survived the thawing...

Kill nutrients? How exactly? Do you understand what vitamins and minerals are?

The microwave emits non ionising radiation. It's radio waves at a higher frequency. Are you suggesting that leaving your sambos beside a radio "kills the nutrients".

Microwaves DO NOT nuke food. They agitate it slightly.

ebixa82

Aquarius34 wrote: »

I don't believe anyone should be working long hours, so I am out of that argument.

WTF does that mean?

I don't believe anyone should be homeless or unemployed but that's life.

Anyways, after that comment, I realise what I'm dealing with here.

Mellor

Aquarius34 wrote: »

Second point, you have to defrost it and most people use microwaves to defrost food. Microwave's gives off radiation, which I am sure you know. Not only that it nucs the food and kills of the remaining nutrients that survived the thawing...

I think this post proved that you don't actually understand what you are talking about.

Microwaves are part of the same electromagnetic spectrum as radio waves, uv, sunlight, infrared, etc. they don't nuke your good, don't take 80s film cliches as fact.
Secondly, microwaves have been show to retain more nutrients than baking, grilling, boiling. Basically all forms of cooking except steaming.

As for freezing, it actually prevents the degradation of nutrients. Frozen veg are often in better shape than "fresh". As they are more of less frozen when pick right up until they are needed. Fresh could be a few days old when bought, then sitting for a few days before its used.

Obviously, going out and pulling veg from the ground at dinner time is best. But there's nothing fundamentally unhealthy of freezing and heating. I often prep post-gym meals and freeze them. I'm confidant they are healthier than 95%+ of other people's dinners.