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Manic Preacher

The Onion has really gone downhill

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Lumen

Manic Preacher wrote: »

The Onion has really gone downhill

Lance fan?

Bunnyhopper

Apparently some Fox News station in Florida reported the Onion story as fact :rolleyes:

The report was pulled from their website but there's a discussion here:

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=9859&page=4

Manic Preacher

Lumen wrote: »

Lance fan?

No I'm not a Lance fan at all, just making a general observation about the onion website. It used to be a lot better 10 years ago

petethedrummer

Manic Preacher wrote: »

No I'm not a Lance fan at all, just making a general observation about the onion website. It used to be a lot better 10 years ago

Its the type of thing you grow tired of after a while. Its probably just as funny to a new reader now as it was to you 10 years ago.

Quigs Snr

That Lance Onion article.... I am still waiting for the punchline. Seems like the onion has gone stale. I should have known because the movie was terrible. Notable exception of the Britany Spears wannabee and of course Stephen Segal in "Cockpuncher".

Zascar

I actually thought it was very good, a little bit of a dig at the irony and simplicity really.

Timmah!

My favorite Onion story: http://www.theonion.com/articles/national-funk-congress-deadlocked-on-get-upget-dow,625/

joker77

Shane Stokes interviews Betsy Andreu:
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/5699/Betsy-Andreu-speaks-about-Lance-Armstrongs-involvement-in-the-Floyd-Landis-investigation.aspx

Captain Havoc

More on RTE this morning

TheBlaaMan

I dunno.............most tested rider in history etc aside..........I think he's gonna go down....

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bordry-prepared-to-hand-over-armstrongs-1999-tour-de-france-samples

Hermy

TheBlaaMan wrote: »

...I think he's gonna go down...

I hope so.

Harrybelafonte

"VN: Finally, you recently met with Jeff Novitzky. What was he like, and what impression did you get from him?

BA: Well, he didn’t like my Polish jokes…!"

I like her!

RobFowl

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lim-and-livingston-set-for-grand-jury-hearing-on-wednesday

Should be interesting, pity it's behind closed doors :rolleyes:

Oldlegs

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/lance-armstrongs-new-nemesis-federal-agent-jeff-novitzky

Note sure I like the tone of the article - it would have been better journalism to stick to the facts without trying to undermine Novitzky. Still the story is there ....

niceonetom

"LIAR!" says Pat in the Indo.

petethedrummer

The tide seems to have turned. Take a look at the cover story tag line on Pro Cycling; "Can the sport handle the truth?". I skimmed through the article in Easons and they're not even debating whether he was a doper or not anymore.
http://magazine.bikeradar.com/2011/01/04/new-issue-of-procycling-out-now/

There is also gonna be a big article in Sports Illustrated in the next week or so that will probably drive the final nail in, centred around Livestrong activities. Thats according to the folks on this thread: http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=11579

mloc123

Poor Lance, its a witch hunt. Doping or not, he is swimming alot these days and quite well too.

Jawgap

Armstrong shrugs off FDA investigation

Dura Ace

http://nos.nl/video/210777-lance-armstrong-gebruikte-doping.html

Oldlegs

Dura Ace wrote: »

http://nos.nl/video/210777-lance-armstrong-gebruikte-doping.html

"... with regard to his 7 Tour Victories he is an absolute fraud".

Very strong language to be broadcasting. It really puts it up to LA - telling him to sue for libel if he can prove Kimmage (and the Dutch broadcaster) wrong.

RobFowl

Oldlegs wrote: »

"... with regard to his 7 Tour Victories he is an absolute fraud".

Very strong language to be broadcasting. It really puts it up to LA - telling him to sue for libel if he can prove Kimmage (and the Dutch broadcaster) wrong.

Wonder if he considers Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurains 5 tour victories to be frauds as well........

All have either failed drug tests or had very strong allegations made about possible drug use.

lukester

RobFowl wrote: »

Wonder if he considers Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurains 5 tour victories to be frauds as well........

All have either failed drug tests or had very strong allegations made about possible drug use.

But they were all pre EPO, with the possible exception of Indurain, no?

Mr. Presentable

RobFowl wrote: »

Wonder if he considers Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurains 5 tour victories to be frauds as well........

All have either failed drug tests or had very strong allegations made about possible drug use.

He may well do, but he was discussing Armstrong.

petethedrummer

RobFowl wrote: »

Wonder if he considers Anquetil, Merckx, Hinault and Indurains 5 tour victories to be frauds as well........

Yes

But the topic does come up a lot…
It does. But I can’t name a Tour de France winner going back to… well, I’ve got be careful here or I’ll get myself in trouble. I know one that I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to. When you know what’s going on in this sport, how can there be any other issue than doping until it’s sorted out? How can I hold these people up to be authentic champions when I know and I’ve listened to the lies that are now coming to the surface?
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/348323/the-big-interview-paul-kimmage.html

He's referring to Lemond. He says it in another interview I'm trying to locate.

RobFowl

petethedrummer wrote: »

He's referring to Lemond. He says it in another interview I'm trying to locate.

I remember that interview. I think it was in the Sunday times.

No fan at all of Armstrong but very uncomfortable with this witch-hunt ....

Mr. Presentable

The problem as I see it is, if you want to clean up the sport you cannot let the most high profile suspect go untried. If Lance is allowed be the greatest ever champion, and suspicions unpursued, the anti-doping only matters if you are unsuccessful.

There will never in my opinion ever be a cheat free sport;cycling has always had advantage-takers, even before the doping. Wasn't there a guy once in Le Tour who took a train part of the way?

petethedrummer

RobFowl wrote: »

No fan at all of Armstrong but very uncomfortable with this witch-hunt ....

Its stuff like this that is coming back to bite him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJHCGx_GZkA
http://www.scribd.com/doc/24714560/Michael-Anderson-s-Testimony-On-Lance-Armstrong-Doping

.... and all the other stuff. No other cycling champion has used their power and money quite so ruthlessly to defend a fraud. Now maybe thats because there has never been a cyclist as powerful and they all would have tried. Anyways its all falling apart for him now.

RobFowl

Mr. Presentable wrote: »

The problem as I see it is, if you want to clean up the sport you cannot let the most high profile suspect go untried. If Lance is allowed be the greatest ever champion, and suspicions unpursued, the anti-doping only matters if you are unsuccessful.

There will never in my opinion ever be a cheat free sport;cycling has always had advantage-takers, even before the doping. Wasn't there a guy once in Le Tour who took a train part of the way?

TBF the greatest ever cyclist was Eddy Merckx and he was thrown out of the Giro for doping yet is widely admired and treated with acclaim....

Edit Cannot believe I'm even partially defending Armstrong .........