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Sonic crackers proto arrived! \o/

  • 05-05-2010 11:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Just thought I'd celebrate my 10,000th post by dedicating a thread to what will perhaps be the pinnacle of my ridiculous videogames purchases.. :pac: There are few things that pop up for sale in which I would be kicking myself if I let slip by. This was one of them.

    Nobody really knows how many of these carts are in existence, but some reckon between 10 and 15.

    This particular cart came out of a proto find back in 1997. The guys were mainly after 2600 games and this came lumped in with the find. It was sitting in storage for 10 years and then went into the posession of the guy I bought it from over on sega-16.

    It hasn't been dumped, but they reckon it's similar to the other protos out there. It has the same serial number on the 'Sonic Crackers' screen. Still, I might try to dump it at some point.

    Anyway, on to the photos!

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    It has one of those Sega boot up logos where each letter zooms in. You have to press start really quickly or it'll crash at A like so -

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    Menu screen. You have to press start here quickly or it'll crash too -

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,383 amacachi


    Meh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    amacachi wrote: »
    Meh.

    /bitchslap :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 51,052 ✭✭✭✭ Professey Chin


    What a ridiculous purchase indeed...............I must have one


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 47,347 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Retr0gamer


    Do I want to know how much you spent on it?

    Also if it is a unique rom you really should find some one to dump it. There's nothing I hate more than collectors sitting on stuff like dreamcast protos.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Do I want to know how much you spent on it?

    Well lets just say there goes my Radiant Silvergun money for the moment anyway :(

    Ah well, there are lots more opportunities to buy that. Not so much the case with this.
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Also if it is a unique rom you really should find some one to dump it. There's nothing I hate more than collectors sitting on stuff like dreamcast protos.

    Aye, you're right. I'm going to look into getting one of those MD backup systems like the Famicom one I have. Could dump it with that. If I can't find one there's also a way of dumping carts using a Mega CD.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 15,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Atavan-Halen


    Very very nice indeed. I wonder what would happen if you popped onto sonic & kuckles? :pac:

    *I would thanks but I'm on mobile atm


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    I wonder what would happen if you popped onto sonic & kuckles? :pac:

    :eek:

    /back in a jiffy!

    /edit - awh, nothing :( might be able to do something interesting with a Game Geanie though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 47,347 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Retr0gamer


    Well you can try out radiant silvergun on saturday but it might not be a good idea. As a shooter fan your bank manager might be meeting you discussing a loan for an 'investment' in a rare videogame :P

    I wonder what the channels are to get a proto rom distributed? Maybe the Guru rom dumper or ask on the HG101 forums???


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 15,182 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Atavan-Halen


    o1s1n wrote: »
    :eek:

    /back in a jiffy!

    /edit - awh, nothing :( might be able to do something interesting with a Game Geanie though.

    No way?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,409 Butch Cassidy


    Sorry, I'm new. What the hell is this? Aside from retro game porn :p

    I know Sonic, have the PS2 collections as well as some Mega Drive games. I'm terribly confused....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Well you can try out radiant silvergun on saturday but it might not be a good idea. As a shooter fan your bank manager might be meeting you discussing a loan for an 'investment' in a rare videogame :P

    God damn it man, can you accidentally leave it at home please?!
    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I wonder what the channels are to get a proto rom distributed? Maybe the Guru rom dumper or ask on the HG101 forums???

    I haven't a clue! Not something I thought I'd ever have to do.

    I had a reread through the thread and although it hasn't been dumped, the prior owner said it seems similar to the dumped rom. The only difference I can see so far between mine and the rom is mine crashes on the main menu when the others dont. (a unique glitch, hurrah! :D) Here's the thread anyway, there are a couple of interesting posts about the carts origin -

    http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3429


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,383 amacachi


    Sorry, I'm new. What the hell is this? Aside from retro game porn :p

    I know Sonic, have the PS2 collections as well as some Mega Drive games. I'm terribly confused....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_Crackers


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Sorry, I'm new. What the hell is this? Aside from retro game porn :p

    I know Sonic, have the PS2 collections as well as some Mega Drive games. I'm terribly confused....

    In a nut shell, it's an unreleased Sonic Sega Megadrive game.

    The idea was scrapped and the game mechanic was used for Knuckles Chaotix on the 32X instead. There were a few early development prototypes the team made to see if the game would work. This is one of them

    Game wise, there are only a couple of levels, and they're pretty glitchy. But it's still a pretty interesting thing to own!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,409 Butch Cassidy


    Hah I just did a search and came across this - http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11147

    Wow you must be a Fianna Fail banker to afford that :p


    I'm assuming I could download this for an emulator or something?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 47,347 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Retr0gamer


    The last time I played it there was only an extremely basic level that glitched like **** after a while and a map screen that didn't work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Hah I just did a search and came across this - http://www.sega-16.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11147

    Wow you must be a Fianna Fail banker to afford that :p

    Okay well it wasn't THAT much. :p Was a lot less than I was expecting it to be when I clicked on the thread. Would be why I contimplated buying it ;)
    I'm assuming I could download this for an emulator or something?

    Yep, you can. As I said, don't be expecting much. It's pretty much one level with no enemies with Sonic and tails tethered together similar to Knuckles Chaotix.

    There's also another isometric type level where you wander about. I think theres another level, I just haven't been able to access the level select menu on this as it crashes. Should be able to on the rom though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,409 Butch Cassidy


    Eh ok... you're mad buying something that's not even worth playing :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    /facepalm.

    Kind of missed the point of a prototype :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭ Myrddin


    amacachi wrote: »
    Meh.

    Jealously doesn't become you Amacachi :D
    Eh ok... you're mad buying something that's not even worth playing :pac:

    For a collector, a very warm feeling comes from the fact of knowing that you own something of which there are only a handful of in existence...

    Edit -o1s1n, if your stuck I can dump the cart via the Tototek programmer. Its as simple as pressing "Read". For the sake of completion, you should def dump the cart and submit it for inclulsion into the goodsets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,345 landsleaving


    Wowzers, that's one impressive piece of collectable goodness. Probably gonna be worth a fortune in the future. I hope you have some sort of ridiculous security set up around it with tripwires and an alarmed glass case and lasers.

    /gets solid snake outfit and pack of smokes.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 33,983 CMod ✭✭✭✭ CiDeRmAn


    Congrats on the purchase, that could be the investment of a lifetime, depending on how desirable the game becomes of course, but fingers crossed!
    Don't tell Sera, she'll be outside you gaff in a raccoon/ninja suit, ready to swoop in and swipe it, Swiper No Swiping! Swiper No Swiping!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 520 batari


    That is sweet. Never heard of that before. But more importantly, did ya get any of the 2600 games that it had the honour of sharing a box with??!!:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    EnterNow wrote: »

    Edit -o1s1n, if your stuck I can dump the cart via the Tototek programmer. Its as simple as pressing "Read". For the sake of completion, you should def dump the cart and submit it for inclulsion into the goodsets.

    Cheers! I didn't know the Tototek could do that?

    I'm after ordering a Sega Mega CD transfer cable from Tototek. I don't know if you've seen one, but they connect the Megadrive controller port 2 to a PC serial cable. It allows you to dump the Mega CD bios, but also any game that's plugged into the Megadrive.

    I'll see how I go with that. If it doesn't work then I'd be up for dropping it out to you. Armed gardai accompanying of course ;)
    Wowzers, that's one impressive piece of collectable goodness. Probably gonna be worth a fortune in the future. I hope you have some sort of ridiculous security set up around it with tripwires and an alarmed glass case and lasers.

    /gets solid snake outfit and pack of smokes.

    Unfortunately not, the height of my security is a Megadrive clamshell saying 'Sonic Crackers prototype'.

    Perhaps I should change the label to 'Generic Sega Megadrive game'. :D or even put it in an old Championship Manager case. Nobody would ever dream of looking in that....
    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Congrats on the purchase, that could be the investment of a lifetime, depending on how desirable the game becomes of course, but fingers crossed!
    Don't tell Sera, she'll be outside you gaff in a raccoon/ninja suit, ready to swoop in and swipe it, Swiper No Swiping! Swiper No Swiping!

    OMG! I knew there was a sinister reason why Sera couldn't come to the beers! :eek:
    atariman wrote: »
    That is sweet. Never heard of that before. But more importantly, did ya get any of the 2600 games that it had the honour of sharing a box with??!!:)

    There was a prototype for something called Air Raid. It looked pretty stupid so I cast it to the bin.

    In all seriousness though, it shows you how collecting has changed. Originally this prototype was just thrown in as a novelty freebee with the 2600 stuff.
    'Ah would you look at that, an unreleased Sonic game..I guess we might as well hang onto it...' /throws into a box for ten years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭ Myrddin


    Well you can dump SNES carts via the programmer, so I just assumed the MD one worked the same - I havnt tried yet so its open to correction. Either way that cable should work flawlessy for you, I remember talking to the guy who developed the method YEARS ago (Arakon), same guy who developed the muti-region sega cd bios chip...

    To anyone interested you can also make those cables yourself, but last time I checked Tototek retailed them cheaply so buying one is a handier way to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    Yep you can indeed. I was going to make one myself as you just have to solder the corresponding pins together.

    However you'd need to sacrifice a Megadrive pad and a serial cable. Factor in the time it'll take to make and suddenly 15 dollars with free postage doesn't seem like very much!


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,625 ✭✭✭ Jack burton


    looks nice man, this just makes my complete gunstar heroes on the way look like nothing :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


    It does kind of make it hard to get excited about anything else.

    /Begins hunting down a Sonic 1 prototype.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,625 ✭✭✭ Jack burton


    Sure look you might aswell just give away your collection and start collecting prototypes only.

    yes I think that would be the right thing to do. and before you throw out your MD collection I'll take a few games off your hands! I dont mind at all!


  • Registered Users Posts: 31,868 ✭✭✭✭ o1s1n


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  • Registered Users Posts: 276 ✭✭ Dark Savior


    Niiice,if I had that I'd probably send herself into the spare room and cuddle up to it for a few nights lol.O.....k I've said too much,enjoy that warm fuzzy feeling of owning something noone else has :pac:


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