Guns for all

C_Dawg

I don't have the brains for arguing stuff or quoting figures so I decided to post here instead of in Politics.

The world is a dangerous place yeah? The cops mean well but are under funded and undermanned. The solution? Allow us, the average Joe, to bear arms!

"An armed society is a polite society." If the ordinary chap on the street was packing heat the scum might think twice before trying to hustle us.

If I'm attacked on the street tomorrow what are my options? Get kicked to death there on the spot or try and run away only to be chased and battered somewhere else.

The bad mofos already have their Glocks so why shouldn't we?

Who'd be in favour of it? Who against? Go to the poll and add comments too :cool:

InKonspikuou2

I'm down to bare arms like short sleeve t-shirts.

MagicMarker

*sigh*

brummytom

Yes... the world would be a lot safer if we were all armed up to our eyeballs.




What the fuck?!

strobe

Could I have a miniature American flag instead?

AckwelFoley

I have a firearm.


Rifle.

.22 magnum.

for when they come for me...

MagicMarker

strobe wrote: »

Could I have a miniature American flag instead?

Go School!

AlmightyCushion

Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.

MagicMarker

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.

Ooooh, controversial!

Podge2k7

C_Dawg wrote: »

I don't have the brains for arguing stuff or quoting figures so I decided to post here instead of in Politics.

The world is a dangerous place yeah? The cops mean well but are under funded and undermanned. The solution? Allow us, the average Joe, to bear arms!

"An armed society is a polite society." If the ordinary chap on the street was packing heat the scum might think twice before trying to hustle us.

If I'm attacked on the street tomorrow what are my options? Get kicked to death there on the spot or try and run away only to be chased and battered somewhere else.

The bad mofos already have their Glocks so why shouldn't we?

Who'd be in favour of it? Who against? Go to the poll and add comments too :cool:

If you get the shit kicked out of you, theres a chance you'll survive.

If everyone has a gun, then "bang". Theres alot less chance you'll survive.

C_Dawg

Podge2k7 wrote: »

If you get the **** kicked out of you, theres a chance you'll survive.

If everyone has a gun, then "bang". Theres alot less chance you'll survive.

But if I was armed there's a chance I wouldn't get attacked in the first place. As it stands today there's nothing stopping a criminal with a gun shooting me dead in the street. Who's gonna stop him, our unarmed police?

The Shtig

Terrible idea IMO

Sure you might think you would be more protected if a burglar breaks into your house at night but chances are that burglar will also have a gun if anybody can get one.

I would never feel safe if everyone was entitled to a gun in this country. Suicide would probably shoot up and school shootings could become a problem.

We can't say "but we need one to protect ourselfs!" That's the problems with nukes. Countries will want them in their aresnal to protect incase of a nuclear attack against them creating a recipe for disaster.

MagicMarker

C_Dawg wrote: »

But if I was armed there's a chance I wouldn't get attacked in the first place. As it stands today there's nothing stopping a criminal with a gun shooting me dead in the street. Who's gonna stop him, our unarmed police?

When has that ever happened for no apparent reason? You probably have a better chance of winning the lottery. So we should just make guns legal because of your retarded logic?

C_Dawg

The Shtig wrote: »

chances are that burglar will also have a gun if any body can get one.

A determined person will be able to get their hands on a gun presently though

SubLuminal

Make guns free, but make bullets cost €5,000 each. That way, if someone got shot, you'd know, hell, they really must have deserved it..

The Shtig

C_Dawg wrote: »

A determined person will be able to get their hands on a gun presently though

I'm sure they can but making it possible for every criminal to have one?

MagicMarker

SubLuminal wrote: »

Make guns free, but make bullets cost €5,000 each. That way, if someone got shot, you'd know, hell, they really must have deserved it..

At least put it in quotes man.

C_Dawg

SubLuminal wrote: »

Make guns free, but make bullets cost €5,000 each. That way, if someone got shot, you'd know, hell, they really must have deserved it..

Chris Rock yeah. He's funny I must admit.

Odysseus

C_Dawg wrote: »

A determined person will be able to get their hands on a gun presently though

A determined person won't need a gun to kill a person.

C_Dawg

The Shtig wrote: »

I'm sure they can but making it possible for every criminal to have one?

Well as far as I've read over in the US a person with a serious enough criminal record cannot legally buy a firearm, rules shouldn't be any different here.

C_Dawg

Odysseus wrote: »

A determined person won't need a gun to kill a person.

That's true enough unfortunately but not everyone has the skills of Steven Seagal to defend themselves

The Shtig

C_Dawg wrote: »

Well as far as I've read over in the US a person with a serious enough criminal record cannot legally buy a firearm, rules shouldn't be any different here.

But the criminal may have used a gun to get this serious criminal record to kill someone? too late then.

MagicMarker

C_Dawg wrote: »

Well as far as I've read over in the US a person with a serious enough criminal record cannot legally buy a firearm, rules shouldn't be any different here.

Yes, America. Let's be like them.

SOLD!

C_Dawg

The Shtig wrote: »

But the criminal may have used a gun to get this serious criminal record to kill someone? too late then.

Shur that's no different to today's world

Mrmoe

I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing that people can be armed. There are methods that are being developed that will allow user only weapon and this can prevent unauthorised people from using a weapon. If you couple this with other biometric sensors and GPS tracking then this should alleviate some of the security concerns that people have. It needs more development though before it can be introduced.

[FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Most experts agree that smart guns of the future will have to be built in such a way that the technology that recognizes the authorized user will have to be part of the gun itself. Smith & Wesson’s engineers are already heading in that direction by totally redesigning the gun (see movie at top right of page). "The only way we believe that can be done properly is to get rid of the hammer and spring and firing-pin and fire the ammunition electronically," says Foley. The company is working on a prototype that uses imaging chips to recognize fingerprints (see right). Because the chips are too bulky and fragile to fit inside the gun, their only option so far has been to use a separate cartridge that fits into the magazine in place of the ammunition. After the fingerprints are scanned, the cartridge unlocks so that real ammunition can be loaded. But Foley acknowledges that this is less than ideal. "We’re giving up speed of access for security," he says, adding that this is only the first step and that at least two major redesigns will be necessary before such a gun can go into production.
Meanwhile, [URL="javascript:popWin(%E2%80%99http://www.appliedbiometrics.net/ie.htm’)"]Applied Biometrics[/URL], a company specializing in fingerprint recognition, recently patented a portable device that attaches to the gun and uses AAA batteries to identify prints.
But the key to an efficient smart gun will probably lie in biometrics that can somehow be incorporated into the gun’s grip, together with instantaneous processing that would recognize the prints and unlock the gun. "It means the technology has to be innocuous," says Steve Morton, CEO of [URL="javascript:popWin(%E2%80%99http://www.oxfordmicrodevices.com/’)"]Oxford Microdevices[/URL]. "It needs to be put into the gun in such a way that your finger automatically falls on it and by the time you raise your gun into position it’s ready to go."
Morton claims that his company has already developed a small fingerprint image sensor and processor with enough power to give an instantaneous response, but at the same time acknowledges the challenge of applying fingerprint technology to guns. "It’s very difficult to make it work in the field, and the reason for that is that people’s fingers get cut, they get chapped, they get dirty, they get greasy," he notes. But since his company has no plans to develop guns with the technology, it will be up to gun manufacturers to see if it actually works.
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http://biomacfoundation.org/en/germany-to-consider-gun-fingerprint-scanners.html

C_Dawg

Aye a Judge Dread gun. Would be great invention IMO.

I'd settle for their present day non bio recognition cousins to be in the hands of every member of the AGS

Duggy747

Guns!?! I can barely trust cùnts around me with a goddamn spud-gun!

However, if I was to buy guns:

*Thick Austrian Accent*
The 12-gauge auto-loader.
The .45 long slide, with laser sighting.
The Uzi nine millimeter.
Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

Odysseus

C_Dawg wrote: »

That's true enough unfortunately but not everyone has the skills of Steven Seagal to defend themselves

You don't need to be Mr Seagal, if you feel the need to protect youself train in some defensive sytem. See the damage that can be caused without a gun, and you will want to avoid situations where you may need to use them.

I have three guns in a safe in my bebroom, my work brings me into with some violent criminals. Did I think we need guns for self denfense in Ireland? No.

Owing a gun is a serious responsilibility, thinking you can just go a round firing off rounds, is a very dangerous line of thinking. By all means get a gun for sporting purposes, best self defense is your mind, not a weapon.

PK2008

Go for a walk in Dublin City Centre between 2.00am- 4.00am any Friday or Saturday and then ask yourself if it would be a good idea for everyone to have guns.

C_Dawg

Duggy747 wrote: »

Guns!?! I can barely trust cùnts around me with a goddamn spud-gun!

However, if I was to buy guns:

*Thick Austrian Accent*
The 12-gauge auto-loader.
The .45 long slide, with laser sighting.
The Uzi nine millimeter.
Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

Christ what we need to get is a friendly Terminator bodyguard like in T2 :cool:

C_Dawg

PK2008 wrote: »

Go for a walk in Dublin City Centre between 2.00am- 4.00am any Friday or Saturday and then ask yourself if it would be a good idea for everyone to have guns.

I live in Waterford. Have seen plenty of sh!t down here already mate

PK2008

C_Dawg wrote: »

I live in Waterford. Have seen plenty of sh!t down here already mate

Word.....Dawg!

C_Dawg

Odysseus wrote: »

Owing a gun is a serious responsilibility, thinking you can just go a round firing off rounds, is a very dangerous line of thinking.

I never said I'd be spraying bullets at someone for looking at me twice. I can understand having a live weapon isn't like a video game.

I would like a licensing system to be in place and training in the use of the firearm and situations being mandatory for all applicants.

C_Dawg

PK2008 wrote: »

Word.....Dawg!

Yeah ok buttie

Captain Chaos

Do what the Swiss do. Every able bodied person has to serve a few years in their armed forces. After which you get to keep your service rifle.

They have the lowest crime rate in Europe believe it or not. Probably because they are all such nice folk from the land of watches and chocolate and everyone has a battle rifle on their bedroom wall.

C_Dawg

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Do what the Swiss do. Every able bodies person has to serve a few years in their armed forces. After which you get to keep your service rifle.

They have the lowest crime rate in Europe believe it or not. Probably because they are all such nice folk from the land of watches and chocolate and everyone has a battle rifle on their bedroom wall.

Yeah have heard about them alright. I'd be in favour of national service no hassle

Captain Chaos

C_Dawg wrote: »

Yeah have heard about them alright. I'd be in favour of national service no hassle

It would knock some manners into the scum being dragged up today anyways.

C_Dawg

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It would knock some manners into the scum being dragged up today anyways.

Well said buttie

Mike 1972

If we take the "everyone should have the right to bear arms" notion to its illogical conclusions shouldnt children be allowed (maybe even encouraged) to bring guns to school. Shouldnt airline passengers be allowed carry too ? Shouldnt employees be allowed to bring guns to work ? And whats this nonsense about denying guns to convicted felons -surely convicted felons need to defend themselves too ?

Seriously would Columbine have happened if all the other kids had guns ? Woudnt bullying and paedophilia die out overnight and if someone tries hijacking a plane couldnt the other passengers just blow them away ? Or perhaps restrictions on gun possession are actually a good idea after all ?

C_Dawg wrote: »

"An armed society is a polite society."

Yep the ghetto is a bastion of fine etiquette.............

PK2008

Ireland is one of the safest countries in the world


http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita&int=-1

Odysseus

C_Dawg wrote: »

I never said I'd be spraying bullets at someone for looking at me twice. I can understand having a live weapon isn't like a video game.

I would like a licensing system to be in place and training in the use of the firearm and situations being mandatory for all applicants.

The those intent on causing harm can avail of said training. A lot of serious criminals don't have records yet. I use to avail of some training in Prague about 12 years ago, I used the ranges a lot never seen anyone dodgy, then the media started making a lot of noise about it, then there where a lot of dodgy people going over.

In a ideal situation, I have no issues with people owning guns; where do we draw the line. Look at the way a lot of muppets behave after a few drinks, throwing Mr Glock in there is not a good idea.

Should people be allowed to own glocks for sporting purposes? In my opinion yes, however, if a person needs one for self defense, they need to start having a look at the way they live their life.

KeRbDoG

C_Dawg wrote: »

...I'd be in favour of national service no hassle

Yup, +1 to that

Dazd_N_Confusd

Don't you get it?

Everything that has the potential to harm another person needs to be banned.

Like cars and knives!

C_Dawg

Mike 1972 wrote: »

If we take the "everyone should have the right to bear arms" notion to its illogical conclusions shouldnt children be allowed (maybe even encouraged) to bring guns to school. Shouldnt airline passengers be allowed carry too ? Shouldnt employees be allowed to bring guns to work ? And whats this nonsense about denying guns to convicted felons -surely convicted felons need to defend themselves too ?

Seriously would Columbine have happened if all the other kids had guns ? Woudnt bullying and paedophilia die out overnight and if someone tries hijacking a plane couldnt the other passengers just blow them away ? Or perhaps restrictions on gun possession are actually a good idea after all ?



Yep the ghetto is a bastion of fine etiquette.............

I don't think many schools in the world allow weapons, same can be said of most airlines too. Why would it be any different here?

I'd already suggested the restriction of convicted people get licenced.

Herb Powell

no, guns are a ****ing terrible idea. really, I don't see why people think they will solve anything.
OP, tell me honestly-how many times have you had the sh!t kicked out of you repeatedly?

C_Dawg

Odysseus wrote: »

however, if a person needs one for self defense, they need to start having a look at the way they live their life.

I don't go out on the town, I don't drink or do drugs and I don't associate with anyone who does. I live a very quiet life and am a gentle giant in my own way. I don't feel safe in today's world. Despite my username I'm not a gangbanger

PK2008

C_Dawg wrote: »

I don't go out on the town, I don't drink or do drugs and I don't associate with anyone who does. I live a very quiet life and am a gentle giant in my own way. I don't feel safe in today's world. Despite my username I'm not a gangbanger

Paranoid much?

C_Dawg

Herb Powell wrote: »

no, guns are a ****ing terrible idea. really, I don't see why people think they will solve anything.
OP, tell me honestly-how many times have you had the sh!t kicked out of you repeatedly?

Never actually. However I was once mugged at syringe point and had a drunk pour my coffee over my shoulder another time.

C_Dawg

PK2008 wrote: »

Paranoid much?

Keeps me relatively safe

C_Dawg

I love how people start getting personal instead of giving valid viewpoints but tis After Hours I suppose :-)

C_Dawg

C_Dawg wrote: »

But if I was armed there's a chance I wouldn't get attacked in the first place. As it stands today there's nothing stopping a criminal with a gun shooting me dead in the street. Who's gonna stop him, our unarmed police?

doesnt seem to be working too well for the yanks