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Guns for all

  • 16-04-2010 07:12PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭


    I don't have the brains for arguing stuff or quoting figures so I decided to post here instead of in Politics.

    The world is a dangerous place yeah? The cops mean well but are under funded and undermanned. The solution? Allow us, the average Joe, to bear arms!

    "An armed society is a polite society." If the ordinary chap on the street was packing heat the scum might think twice before trying to hustle us.

    If I'm attacked on the street tomorrow what are my options? Get kicked to death there on the spot or try and run away only to be chased and battered somewhere else.

    The bad mofos already have their Glocks so why shouldn't we?

    Who'd be in favour of it? Who against? Go to the poll and add comments too :cool:

    Should we have the right to be armed? 68 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    100% 68 votes


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭InKonspikuou2


    I'm down to bare arms like short sleeve t-shirts.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    *sigh*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    Yes... the world would be a lot safer if we were all armed up to our eyeballs.




    What the fuck?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Could I have a miniature American flag instead?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,556 ✭✭✭✭AckwelFoley


    I have a firearm.


    Rifle.

    .22 magnum.

    for when they come for me...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    strobe wrote: »
    Could I have a miniature American flag instead?
    Go School!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do.
    Ooooh, controversial!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,972 ✭✭✭Podge2k7


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    I don't have the brains for arguing stuff or quoting figures so I decided to post here instead of in Politics.

    The world is a dangerous place yeah? The cops mean well but are under funded and undermanned. The solution? Allow us, the average Joe, to bear arms!

    "An armed society is a polite society." If the ordinary chap on the street was packing heat the scum might think twice before trying to hustle us.

    If I'm attacked on the street tomorrow what are my options? Get kicked to death there on the spot or try and run away only to be chased and battered somewhere else.

    The bad mofos already have their Glocks so why shouldn't we?

    Who'd be in favour of it? Who against? Go to the poll and add comments too :cool:

    If you get the shit kicked out of you, theres a chance you'll survive.

    If everyone has a gun, then "bang". Theres alot less chance you'll survive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    Podge2k7 wrote: »
    If you get the **** kicked out of you, theres a chance you'll survive.

    If everyone has a gun, then "bang". Theres alot less chance you'll survive.

    But if I was armed there's a chance I wouldn't get attacked in the first place. As it stands today there's nothing stopping a criminal with a gun shooting me dead in the street. Who's gonna stop him, our unarmed police?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭The Shtig


    Terrible idea IMO

    Sure you might think you would be more protected if a burglar breaks into your house at night but chances are that burglar will also have a gun if anybody can get one.

    I would never feel safe if everyone was entitled to a gun in this country. Suicide would probably shoot up and school shootings could become a problem.

    We can't say "but we need one to protect ourselfs!" That's the problems with nukes. Countries will want them in their aresnal to protect incase of a nuclear attack against them creating a recipe for disaster.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    But if I was armed there's a chance I wouldn't get attacked in the first place. As it stands today there's nothing stopping a criminal with a gun shooting me dead in the street. Who's gonna stop him, our unarmed police?
    When has that ever happened for no apparent reason? You probably have a better chance of winning the lottery. So we should just make guns legal because of your retarded logic?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    The Shtig wrote: »
    chances are that burglar will also have a gun if any body can get one.

    A determined person will be able to get their hands on a gun presently though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 438 ✭✭SubLuminal


    Make guns free, but make bullets cost €5,000 each. That way, if someone got shot, you'd know, hell, they really must have deserved it..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭The Shtig


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    A determined person will be able to get their hands on a gun presently though

    I'm sure they can but making it possible for every criminal to have one?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    SubLuminal wrote: »
    Make guns free, but make bullets cost €5,000 each. That way, if someone got shot, you'd know, hell, they really must have deserved it..
    At least put it in quotes man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    SubLuminal wrote: »
    Make guns free, but make bullets cost €5,000 each. That way, if someone got shot, you'd know, hell, they really must have deserved it..

    Chris Rock yeah. He's funny I must admit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    A determined person will be able to get their hands on a gun presently though

    A determined person won't need a gun to kill a person.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    The Shtig wrote: »
    I'm sure they can but making it possible for every criminal to have one?

    Well as far as I've read over in the US a person with a serious enough criminal record cannot legally buy a firearm, rules shouldn't be any different here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    Odysseus wrote: »
    A determined person won't need a gun to kill a person.

    That's true enough unfortunately but not everyone has the skills of Steven Seagal to defend themselves


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭The Shtig


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    Well as far as I've read over in the US a person with a serious enough criminal record cannot legally buy a firearm, rules shouldn't be any different here.

    But the criminal may have used a gun to get this serious criminal record to kill someone? too late then.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    Well as far as I've read over in the US a person with a serious enough criminal record cannot legally buy a firearm, rules shouldn't be any different here.
    Yes, America. Let's be like them.

    SOLD!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    The Shtig wrote: »
    But the criminal may have used a gun to get this serious criminal record to kill someone? too late then.

    Shur that's no different to today's world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing that people can be armed. There are methods that are being developed that will allow user only weapon and this can prevent unauthorised people from using a weapon. If you couple this with other biometric sensors and GPS tracking then this should alleviate some of the security concerns that people have. It needs more development though before it can be introduced.
    [FONT=Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Most experts agree that smart guns of the future will have to be built in such a way that the technology that recognizes the authorized user will have to be part of the gun itself. Smith & Wesson’s engineers are already heading in that direction by totally redesigning the gun (see movie at top right of page). "The only way we believe that can be done properly is to get rid of the hammer and spring and firing-pin and fire the ammunition electronically," says Foley. The company is working on a prototype that uses imaging chips to recognize fingerprints (see right). Because the chips are too bulky and fragile to fit inside the gun, their only option so far has been to use a separate cartridge that fits into the magazine in place of the ammunition. After the fingerprints are scanned, the cartridge unlocks so that real ammunition can be loaded. But Foley acknowledges that this is less than ideal. "We’re giving up speed of access for security," he says, adding that this is only the first step and that at least two major redesigns will be necessary before such a gun can go into production.
    Meanwhile, [URL="javascript:popWin(%E2%80%99http://www.appliedbiometrics.net/ie.htm’)"]Applied Biometrics[/URL], a company specializing in fingerprint recognition, recently patented a portable device that attaches to the gun and uses AAA batteries to identify prints.
    But the key to an efficient smart gun will probably lie in biometrics that can somehow be incorporated into the gun’s grip, together with instantaneous processing that would recognize the prints and unlock the gun. "It means the technology has to be innocuous," says Steve Morton, CEO of [URL="javascript:popWin(%E2%80%99http://www.oxfordmicrodevices.com/’)"]Oxford Microdevices[/URL]. "It needs to be put into the gun in such a way that your finger automatically falls on it and by the time you raise your gun into position it’s ready to go."
    Morton claims that his company has already developed a small fingerprint image sensor and processor with enough power to give an instantaneous response, but at the same time acknowledges the challenge of applying fingerprint technology to guns. "It’s very difficult to make it work in the field, and the reason for that is that people’s fingers get cut, they get chapped, they get dirty, they get greasy," he notes. But since his company has no plans to develop guns with the technology, it will be up to gun manufacturers to see if it actually works.
    [/FONT]

    http://biomacfoundation.org/en/germany-to-consider-gun-fingerprint-scanners.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    Aye a Judge Dread gun. Would be great invention IMO.

    I'd settle for their present day non bio recognition cousins to be in the hands of every member of the AGS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Guns!?! I can barely trust cùnts around me with a goddamn spud-gun!

    However, if I was to buy guns:

    *Thick Austrian Accent*
    The 12-gauge auto-loader.
    The .45 long slide, with laser sighting.
    The Uzi nine millimeter.
    Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,752 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    C_Dawg wrote: »
    That's true enough unfortunately but not everyone has the skills of Steven Seagal to defend themselves

    You don't need to be Mr Seagal, if you feel the need to protect youself train in some defensive sytem. See the damage that can be caused without a gun, and you will want to avoid situations where you may need to use them.

    I have three guns in a safe in my bebroom, my work brings me into with some violent criminals. Did I think we need guns for self denfense in Ireland? No.

    Owing a gun is a serious responsilibility, thinking you can just go a round firing off rounds, is a very dangerous line of thinking. By all means get a gun for sporting purposes, best self defense is your mind, not a weapon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭PK2008


    Go for a walk in Dublin City Centre between 2.00am- 4.00am any Friday or Saturday and then ask yourself if it would be a good idea for everyone to have guns.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Guns!?! I can barely trust cùnts around me with a goddamn spud-gun!

    However, if I was to buy guns:

    *Thick Austrian Accent*
    The 12-gauge auto-loader.
    The .45 long slide, with laser sighting.
    The Uzi nine millimeter.
    Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

    Christ what we need to get is a friendly Terminator bodyguard like in T2 :cool:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭C_Dawg


    PK2008 wrote: »
    Go for a walk in Dublin City Centre between 2.00am- 4.00am any Friday or Saturday and then ask yourself if it would be a good idea for everyone to have guns.

    I live in Waterford. Have seen plenty of sh!t down here already mate :(


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