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jack presley

Lithium93_ wrote: »

All Within My Hands from their All Within My Hands Foundation Helping Hands Concert & Auction from earlier this month.

That sounds great. Tempted to buy the whole show, I love a bit of pedal-steel.

jack presley

jack presley wrote: »

That sounds great. Tempted to buy the whole show, I love a bit of pedal-steel.

Went ahead and spent the tenner and downloaded the show from Live Metallica. It's really enjoyable. The mandolin, pedal steel etc. are a nice touch to the acoustic guitars.

scudzilla

Expecting a big Christmas promo push from MCD next week, and possibly a few more support bands to boost the poor ticket sales (Slayer, Die Antwoord & an Irish band)

Okon

jack presley wrote: »

Went ahead and spent the tenner and downloaded the show from Live Metallica. It's really enjoyable. The mandolin, pedal steel etc. are a nice touch to the acoustic guitars.

It is an enjoyable show, but Jame's voice sounds shot on some songs.(Blindman, Unforgiven etc... ) compared to other Metallica acoustic versions. The acoustic show from October 2016 (Bridge School Benefit) sounds a lot better from the vocals pov. Still, the AWMH show is a nice change for some mellow Metallica late at night ...and both concerts were for a good cause too.

Ash.J.Williams

scudzilla wrote: »

Expecting a big Christmas promo push from MCD next week, and possibly a few more support bands to boost the poor ticket sales (Slayer, Die Antwoord & an Irish band)

i doubt any metal bands will be added

Degag

scudzilla wrote: »

Expecting a big Christmas promo push from MCD next week, and possibly a few more support bands to boost the poor ticket sales (Slayer, Die Antwoord & an Irish band)

Would be fecking awesome:D


Would they or Ghost go on second last though?

Ash.J.Williams

Degag wrote: »

Would be fecking awesome:D


Would they or Ghost go on second last though?

Ghost are metallicas support, all other bands will be on before ghost no matter who they are

Lithium93_

Acoustic album of their charity gig is being released in February

https://www.yahoo.com/news/metallica-plot-acoustic-live-album-180024320.html?guccounter=1

nyarlothothep

What is it that makes Metallica's lyrics so easy to substitute with jokes? Is it the syntax or the way James sang them on the records? It's like Metallica lyrics are equivalent to 80s movie quotes.

greenspurs

nyarlothothep wrote: »

What is it that makes Metallica's lyrics so easy to substitute with jokes? Is it the syntax or the way James sang them on the records? It's like Metallica lyrics are equivalent to 80s movie quotes.

Hes no poet laureate ...

Church on Tuesday

greenspurs wrote: »

Hes no poet laureate ...

Have to say I disagree with this.

Sure Kill 'Em All is dumb fun but on Creeping Death James demonstrated an aptitude for lyric writing which actually evokes something.

Was more or less perfected by the time MOP came around and polished by the time AJFA was released. Excellent social commentary on those albums at a time when their peers were were singing about moshing, satan and nuclear war.

Ash.J.Williams

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Have to say I disagree with this.

Sure Kill 'Em All is dumb fun but on Creeping Death James demonstrated an aptitude for lyric writing which actually evokes something.

Was more or less perfected by the time MOP came around and polished by the time AJFA was released. Excellent social commentary on those albums at a time when their peers were were singing about moshing, satan and nuclear war.

I agree the lyrics have been great, as a young teen in the 80s I thought hetfield was a lyrical wordsmith motherfocka

nyarlothothep

I think he's actually a really good lyricist when he wants to be (when we exclude stuff like "I am the table").

For example, not many musicians can write lyrics as hard hitting as on And Justice for All. Lines like "Drink up, Shoot in. Let the beatings begin" are just uncompromising and bleak.

gerrybbadd

James has had some great lines down through the years, such as

This thorn in my side
This thorn in my side is from the tree
This thorn in my side is from the tree I've planted
It tears me and I bleed

ozzy jr

The lyrics in Dyers Eve are brilliant.

nyarlothothep

gerrybbadd wrote: »

James has had some great lines down through the years, such as

This thorn in my side
This thorn in my side is from the tree
This thorn in my side is from the tree I've planted
It tears me and I bleed

Haha, it's like computer code. These lyrics I must post though everyone knows them probably, although funnily enough I always heard the last line as "fighting so grim, so true, so real". Disappointed slightly to see Hetfield says find it.

Justice is lost justice is raped
Justice is gone
Pulling your strings Justice is done
Seeking no truth winning is all
Find it so grim so true so real

scudzilla

I'm finding it very odd that MCD haven't pushed the Slane show pre christmas, was expecting a huge marketing campaign along with a few extra support bands

jack presley

scudzilla wrote: »

I'm finding it very odd that MCD haven't pushed the Slane show pre christmas, was expecting a huge marketing campaign along with a few extra support bands

Maybe that’s a good thing. Maybe tickets are selling better than we all expected

Ash.J.Williams

scudzilla wrote: »

I'm finding it very odd that MCD haven't pushed the Slane show pre christmas, was expecting a huge marketing campaign along with a few extra support bands

They changed the songs in the ad from the heavier songs
to the ballady ones!

Mushy

scudzilla wrote: »

I'm finding it very odd that MCD haven't pushed the Slane show pre christmas, was expecting a huge marketing campaign along with a few extra support bands

I still always see the ad sponsored on Facebook. Can't comment for elsewhere as don't listen to the radio. Maybe it has sold better than expected so no need for this push. Plus that may affect recently announced gigs too

Jayesdiem

Chop your breakfast on a mirror

Ash.J.Williams

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Chop your breakfast on a mirror

Ok

nyarlothothep

I think I know why Metallica lyrics are so easily modifiable. They're basically all clauses/noun phrases rather than full sentences though some can act as full sentences. For example, Justice is gone, that's just a clause, you can plug in Jason for Justice and it still makes sense. Metallica lyrics are self contained statements where you can change the nouns and have the same meaning but applied to something or someone else entirely which then results in "humour".

nyarlothothep

Another thing I must say, I disagree with Phil Anselmo's assessment that Pantera would blow Metallica off the stage. It's misleading to say that as sure, 90's, hungry Pantera would do this but then Metallica had grown fat and complacent on the spoils of their success. However, Pantera would have their work cut out for them playing against 80s Metallica in their prime. Sure, they were more technically gifted but in terms of the whole package, 80s Metallica would rival them at the very least.

Wanderer78

nyarlothothep wrote:

Another thing I must say, I disagree with Phil Anselmo's assessment that Pantera would blow Metallica off the stage. It's misleading to say that as sure, 90's, hungry Pantera would do this but then Metallica had grown fat and complacent on the spoils of their success. However, Pantera would have their work cut out for them playing against 80s Metallica in their prime. Sure, they were more technically gifted but in terms of the whole package, 80s Metallica would rival them at the very least.

Metal musicians, a very mature bunch! Both were/are incredible bands

scudzilla

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Another thing I must say, I disagree with Phil Anselmo's assessment that Pantera would blow Metallica off the stage. It's misleading to say that as sure, 90's, hungry Pantera would do this but then Metallica had grown fat and complacent on the spoils of their success. However, Pantera would have their work cut out for them playing against 80s Metallica in their prime. Sure, they were more technically gifted but in terms of the whole package, 80s Metallica would rival them at the very least.

IIRC there was in interview with Anselmo back in the 90's, they'd played a few shows with Metallica and had played an awesome set, in his words, you think you've blown them away then they play the first 3 chords of Creeping Death and it's game over

nyarlothothep

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Metal musicians, a very mature bunch! Both were/are incredible bands

It becomes a literal competition in metal doesn't it, sports metal. Yes, I agree, both bands have great songs. One thing that I'm picking up on re-listens is that Metallica's guitar tones were great in the 80s. Kirk's solo tone on Kill 'Em All is exquisite, rich yet clear, basically the perfect guitar tone, but yikes, from the Load era onward their tones go very dry and bland! I think my favourite rhythm tone would be the AJFA era, very rich, like sonic lava and it has that same processed quality that Dimebag has. In terms of lead tone though I can't really think of anything better than on Kill Em All.

Jayesdiem

nyarlothothep wrote: »

It becomes a literal competition in metal doesn't it, sports metal. Yes, I agree, both bands have great songs. One thing that I'm picking up on re-listens is that Metallica's guitar tones were great in the 80s. Kirk's solo tone on Kill 'Em All is exquisite, rich yet clear, basically the perfect guitar tone, but yikes, from the Load era onward their tones go very dry and bland! I think my favourite rhythm tone would be the AJFA era, very rich, like sonic lava and it has that same processed quality that Dimebag has. In terms of lead tone though I can't really think of anything better than on Kill Em All.

I’m only a consumer, not a player, of music and a lover of metal in particular, but I have absolutely no idea what you are saying here (seriously). That post reads like an equally confusing episode of Masterchef where the judge will chew inquisitively on the food on offer, making comments about how “it’s exquisitely nutty, yet retains its fruity undertones”. I’ll add that I haven’t a musical note in my head, so perhaps a bit unfair, but it rang true as a comparison.

Ash.J.Williams

Kill em all sounds like cranked tube amps and Gibson pickups that's why it's so good it's a real live sound! The next two albums tone are down to flemming Rasmussen , he nailed it, the esp explorer also added something to the tone because I definitely heard a guitar tone on death magnetic that I heard on master of puppets.. And the eet fuk explorer was used on both

Ash.J.Williams

Jayesdiem wrote: »

I’m only a consumer, not a player, of music and a lover of metal in particular, but I have absolutely no idea what you are saying here (seriously). That post reads like an equally confusing episode of Masterchef where the judge will chew inquisitively on the food on offer, making comments about how “it’s exquisitely nutty, yet retains its fruity undertones”. I’ll add that I haven’t a musical note in my head, so perhaps a bit unfair, but it rang true as a comparison.

If ever you get guitar acquisition syndrome you'll understand