Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

Riskymove

Jemo wrote: »

with regards to lansdowne, if we use it for some matches, would Leinster have to pay rent to the IRFU/FAI or would it be free as they are a part of the former? Also Is the RDS on a rollling charge or does vary by the amount of matches played?

the Irfu own lansdowne so no need for rent

outwest

the irfu now part own it, (fools they should of tolf the FAI to go ...)
rent will need to be paid, there will be no freebies

TheTMO

thebaz wrote: »

Looking at the contracts for next season it looks like Dom Ryan didnt get one - I assume that means he is off - I thought he showed great potential and would get better with time , he is still on the U 20's and one of the better ones ??

Believe it or not, Dominic Ryan is actually a year younger than McGrath and Ruddock so still has another year left before they offer a contract.

There is rumours however that Cheika wants to bring him to Stade with him. Apparently they get on very well.

Riskymove

outwest wrote: »

the irfu now part own it, (fools they should of tolf the FAI to go ...)
rent will need to be paid, there will be no freebies

er...so will FAI have to pay IRFU for their games?

makes little sense

durkadurka

Riskymove wrote: »

er...so will FAI have to pay IRFU for their games?

makes little sense

No the IRFU part own it with FAI.

shawpower

durkadurka wrote: »

No the IRFU part own it with FAI.

So when the FAI/IRFU want to use it for a game, surely they'd don't have to pay for the pleasure? So Leinster games (or Munster games for that matter) would have no rent involved?

durkadurka

shawpower wrote: »

So when the FAI/IRFU want to use it for a game, surely they'd don't have to pay for the pleasure? So Leinster games (or Munster games for that matter) would have no rent involved?

I would guess ( I don't know this) that its owned by some holding company and IRFU and FAI would be shareholders in it.

Additional games might incur extra payment. Could be a situation where its only worth going to Lansdowne if you can get more than 40000 people or something. Because you can get 20,000 into RDS now there would be very few occasions where you would exceed that demand.

In the old Donnybrook days where it was only 8000 or something it didn't take much for a game to move to lansdowne, but the RDS can satisfy most of leinsters demands. They seem to like the place too!!

Although with the RDS talking about rebuilding the anglesea stand that would deplete attendances for a year or so, so we might be going back to Lansdowne more often.

crisco10

durkadurka wrote: »

I would guess ( I don't know this) that its owned by some holding company and IRFU and FAI would be shareholders in it.

Additional games might incur extra payment. Could be a situation where its only worth going to Lansdowne if you can get more than 40000 people or something. Because you can get 20,000 into RDS now there would be very few occasions where you would exceed that demand.

In the old Donnybrook days where it was only 8000 or something it didn't take much for a game to move to lansdowne, but the RDS can satisfy most of leinsters demands. They seem to like the place too!!

Although with the RDS talking about rebuilding the anglesea stand that would deplete attendances for a year or so, so we might be going back to Lansdowne more often.

Is that serious talk or just "my mate heard it off his mate who has pints with the cleaner in the RDS" sort of stuff?

Can see Munster, Ulster and knockout games moving to Lansdowne. No more than that though.

mrboswell

TheTMO wrote: »

Believe it or not, Dominic Ryan is actually a year younger than McGrath and Ruddock so still has another year left before they offer a contract.

There is rumours however that Cheika wants to bring him to Stade with him. Apparently they get on very well.

Not surprised, serious potential there and Stade always have good few back row players in their squad.

I'd like to see him stay though, he just be another number at Stade. At Leinster are giving him the odd run, however O'Brien will be back shortly so might not get too much game time next season.

shawpower

crisco10 wrote: »

Is that serious talk or just "my mate heard it off his mate who has pints with the cleaner in the RDS" sort of stuff?

Can see Munster, Ulster and knockout games moving to Lansdowne. No more than that though.

Yeah, I think it's in the plans for RDS development alright. No more terrace!! NOOOOoooooo!!!!!:eek::(

durkadurka

crisco10 wrote: »

Is that serious talk or just "my mate heard it off his mate who has pints with the cleaner in the RDS" sort of stuff?

Can see Munster, Ulster and knockout games moving to Lansdowne. No more than that though.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2010/0416/1224268445089.html



"The RDS is considering redeveloping its showgrounds, home to Leinster rugby. This could involve the demolition of the Anglesea Stand to boost capacity from about 18,000 to about 22,000. A decision is likely before the end of the year.
“It needs to be redeveloped,” said Duffy. “We are conscious of the need to bring it up to modern spectator comfort standard and we want to make it all-seater.”

profitius

Jemo wrote: »

with regards to lansdowne, if we use it for some matches, would Leinster have to pay rent to the IRFU/FAI or would it be free as they are a part of the former? Also Is the RDS on a rollling charge or does vary by the amount of matches played?

I'd imagine they'd have to pay something to the IRFU. The IRFU represents the whole of Ireland and they paid for the stadium. Leinster would receive some of that cash back anyway.

If they'd have to pay the FAI it would be a disgrace but I doubt that'll happen. Surely the IRFU took the provincial teams into account when they made the deal with the FAI.

profitius

thebaz wrote: »

Looking at the contracts for next season it looks like Dom Ryan didnt get one - I assume that means he is off - I thought he showed great potential and would get better with time , he is still on the U 20's and one of the better ones ??

What does he have to offer? What are his strengths besides physical strength? I've only seen him play 2 games, which isn't enough to judge a player.

thebaz

TheTMO wrote: »

Believe it or not, Dominic Ryan is actually a year younger than McGrath and Ruddock so still has another year left before they offer a contract.

There is rumours however that Cheika wants to bring him to Stade with him. Apparently they get on very well.

wow that would be 3 years as an under 20 - good to hear he is not being discarded onto the rugby scrap heap

thebaz

profitius wrote: »

What does he have to offer? What are his strengths besides physical strength? I've only seen him play 2 games, which isn't enough to judge a player.

3 years as an U20 international must mean he has something - he is an awesome tackler anyway

Podge_irl

durkadurka wrote: »

I would guess ( I don't know this) that its owned by some holding company and IRFU and FAI would be shareholders in it.

As far as I know that's the deal at the moment alright. it reverts to sole IRFU ownership after 40 years or something.

[Jackass]

I'm pretty sure no rent is paid by IRFU or FAI for any use of Lansdowne Road.

Wow, didn't realise the rent of RDS was so expensive, coupled with the redevelopment costs of Donnybook, it's put us in the red!! :eek:

Things would be more serious than I thought if this is the case. Such a shame about the cost of the RDS.

anonymous_joe

[Jackass] wrote: »

I'm pretty sure no rent is paid by IRFU or FAI for any use of Lansdowne Road.

Wow, didn't realise the rent of RDS was so expensive, coupled with the redevelopment costs of Donnybook, it's put us in the red!! :eek:

Things would be more serious than I thought if this is the case. Such a shame about the cost of the RDS.

This sucks balls.

Supporting United is all the debt I can handle. :mad:

durkadurka

anonymous_joe wrote: »

This sucks balls.

Supporting United is all the debt I can handle. :mad:

Don't mind them, it's all spin about the fta caper

Podge_irl

MAGNERS LEAGUE DREAM TEAM 2009/10

15 Ben Blair (Cardiff Blues)
14 Tommy Bowe (Ospreys)
13 Brian O'Driscoll (Leinster)
12 James Hook (Ospreys)
11 Tim Visser (Edinburgh)
10 Dan Parks (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Tomas O'Leary (Munster)

1 Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues)
2 Ken Owens (Scarlets)
3 Adam Jones (Ospreys)
4 Leo Cullen (Leinster)
5 Ali Kellock (Glasgow Warriors)
6 Jerry Collins (Ospreys)
7 John Barclay (Glasgow Warriors)
8 Jamie Heaslip (Leinster)

Heaslip makes the dream team for the 4th year in a row (meaning he's been in it every single time it's been compiled). Further evidence of how important he's become to Leinster and what an exceptional player he is. He's close to surpassing O'Connell as second best Irish player and best forward imo.

smurphy29

Podge_irl wrote: »

Heaslip makes the dream team for the 4th year in a row (meaning he's been in it every single time it's been compiled). Further evidence of how important he's become to Leinster and what an exceptional player he is. He's close to surpassing O'Connell as second best Irish player and best forward imo.

Close? He is by miles Ireland's best forward and our best player now. No other Irish player has the same impact so consistently as this guy. He's become one of the elite players in the world.

Podge_irl

smurphy29 wrote: »

Close? He is by miles Ireland's best forward and our best player now. No other Irish player has the same impact so consistently as this guy. He's become one of the elite players in the world.

I didn't want to say anything too controversial!

To be honest, on reflection I personally think Heaslip is the better player as he lacks any obvious deficiency in his game whereas O'Connell has dreadful hands in open play and is not the world's greatest ball carrier. No harm in having both of them though!

durkadurka

most of his unbelievable stuff this year was for Leinster though. I dont think he was world class in the 6n. Just excellent....

Risteard

Podge_irl wrote: »

Heaslip makes the dream team for the 4th year in a row (meaning he's been in it every single time it's been compiled). Further evidence of how important he's become to Leinster and what an exceptional player he is. He's close to surpassing O'Connell as second best Irish player and best forward imo.

On current form, he's our best player bar none IMO.

durkadurka

Risteard wrote: »

On current form, he's our best player bar none IMO.

agreed

anonymous_joe

Yeah, my mates and I were talking recently about how as far as we're concerned Heaslip's both Ireland and Leinster's best now.

Some achievement.

Stev_o

Cross posted from the Transfer Rumours thread

Stev_o wrote:

June 7 - The Golden Lions Rugby Union announced this afternoon that Golden Lions prop Heinke van der Merwe will be leaving the Union. Van der Merwe will be joining Irish team Leinster Club from 1 July 2010 for a period of two years, until July 2012.

Im hoping this is going to be a signing who will be there just to act as cover for any injuries because we are never going to get over our lack of international ready props if we keep on buying these foreigners.

Does this mean we don't have faith in McGrath?

Stev_o

Deleted User wrote: »

Cross posted from the Transfer Rumours thread


Does this mean we don't have faith in McGrath?

It's a odd one to a degree Leinster don't need a new prop a academy player would do fine and would be more beneficial to Leinster and Ireland. More worried at hooker though tbh.

Foxtrol

Stev_o wrote: »

It's a odd one to a degree Leinster don't need a new prop a academy player would do fine and would be more beneficial to Leinster and Ireland. More worried at hooker though tbh.

Seeing as Healy will be away for a good chunk of the season, even without injuries, the academy lads will get a chance. (Especially if they bring in two props on the bench for ML)

As far as hooker we have Strauss and Fogs with Harris Wright going into his second season on a full contract. If we bring in another hooker it basically means he'll get zero game time again this next season.

funky penguin

Another SA prop......lets hope he wears some steel capped boots when he's not playing.