Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

thomond2006

cuttothechase, we can only sign a project player ie uncapped player. Liam Messam is capped so he's out. A good player though and exactly the type of atlhetic bruiser Munster need.

CIARAN_BOYLE

cuttothechase wrote: »

Yes, the backline looks promising. I don't know if this has been discussed already, sorry if it has but has the Munster managment made any strides in signing a world class backrow?

Quinlan, Leamy and Wallace are now permanently out of the picture. The guys we have are not cutting it in the most important area of the game, the breakdown. I am saying this comparing our backrow to Leinster and Ulster's. Our last southern hemisphere backrow signing was a flop (where's Nick Williams now - Itlay?).

I think the radar should be zoning in on someone like Liam Messam, especially since he didn't make the All Blacks 30 for the World Cup. Anybody know anything about his contract with the Chiefs? I know he's the captain but he has been there now for the bones of 6 years. I think a backrow of Peter O' Mahony, Dave O' Callaghan and Messam would be fresh. Anybody hear anything about a backrow signing?

Due to NIQ rules 4+1 and given that Botha, WDP, Howlett, and Lualala there is only room for a project signing.

Probably Penney will pick up someone from the NPC that would be a project player and he thinks can cut the grade at that level.

Podge_irl

cuttothechase wrote: »

Quinlan, Leamy and Wallace are now permanently out of the picture. The guys we have are not cutting it in the most important area of the game, the breakdown.

Whatever about the breakdown, Munster desperately need another ball carrying backrow. They are chronically short of them in their pack and that is a big part of their problem.

thomond2006

Gleeson and Cusack's departures confirmed.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10513.php

sleepyman

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gleeson and Cusack's departures confirmed.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10513.php

Don't want to be too harsh on the two lads but they probably should have been cut a year ago.The few times I saw Cusack play for Munster he looked like a rabbit caught in headlights.
Good luck to the two of them in whatever they choose to do.

sleepyman

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I think himself and Downey will work very well together

considering we'll have Earls, Zebo and Dougie to go with them if we can sort our 9 and 10 it'll amount to a very good backline

Hopefully JJ will get some game time in the rabo aswell.
You just worry who the natural successor to ROG is going to be.

thomond2006

sleepyman wrote: »

Don't want to be too harsh on the two lads but they probably should have been cut a year ago.The few times I saw Cusack play for Munster he looked like a rabbit caught in headlights.
Good luck to the two of them in whatever they choose to do.

I'd agree, Cusack never looked up to it at this level. Gleeson just kept getting injured.

CatFromHue

thomond2006 wrote: »

Gleeson and Cusack's departures confirmed.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10513.php

I don't know much about Cusack but Glesson is a sad one for me. In the 09/10 season I think it was the few times I saw him play he looked handy enough. Obviously injuries didn't help but I wonder is he a case of a player staying too long when he wasn't getting any game time.

lynchy101

I would agree with that Fishooks12

justsomebloke

lynchy101 wrote: »

I would agree with that Fishooks12

Please post on topic and please don't mention your planet rugby again or you will be banned

mikedragon32

justsomebloke wrote: »

Please post on topic and please don't mention your planet rugby again or you will be banned

Too late! :eek:

profitius

For the first time ever in any forum I've used the ignore button. Lynchy won't be wasting any more of my time.

ttankk

Any idea whos going to be the new Munster backs coach?

Lelantos

ttankk wrote: »

Any idea whos going to be the new Munster backs coach?

Penney will have a say in this, perhaps he will ask to bring in his own man, nothing decided as yet

ormond lad

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10520.php
Elite Player Development Manager Peter Malone and Elite Player Dev Officer Colm McMahon give an insight into the Academy programme and development of young players coming into the professional pathway.
Academy players and Munster ‘A’ squad members Duncan Casey and Ronan O’Mahony give their views on training programmes along with Irish u20 International Shane Buckley
The video of Peter and Colm is here

Cpt_Blackbeard

ormond lad wrote: »

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10520.php
Elite Player Development Manager Peter Malone and Elite Player Dev Officer Colm McMahon give an insight into the Academy programme and development of young players coming into the professional pathway.
Academy players and Munster ‘A’ squad members Duncan Casey and Ronan O’Mahony give their views on training programmes along with Irish u20 International Shane Buckley
The video of Peter and Colm is here

Interesting that all the nods to the facilities mention UL rather than CIT, and that players like Buckley and Casey have moved to UL rather than CIT. Sign of things to come?

Hopefully videos like this continue to be produced. Definitely a change for the better.

Monty Burnz

Cpt_Blackbeard wrote: »

Interesting that all the nods to the facilities mention UL rather than CIT, and that players like Buckley and Casey have moved to UL rather than CIT. Sign of things to come?

If the two-base problem is holding the team back, I certainly hope so.

thomond2006

Someone read my complaint!

ambid

thomond2006 wrote: »

Someone read my complaint!

First Gerry Thornley and now Munster Rugby eh? Thomond's influence knows no bounds!

Benny Cake

ambid wrote: »

First Gerry Thornley and now Munster Rugby eh? Thomond's influence knows no bounds!

I wonder where does he stand on the upcoming Fiscal Treaty? With the right few posts he could swing it one way or the other....:p

profitius

ormond lad wrote: »

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10520.php
Elite Player Development Manager Peter Malone and Elite Player Dev Officer Colm McMahon give an insight into the Academy programme and development of young players coming into the professional pathway.
Academy players and Munster ‘A’ squad members Duncan Casey and Ronan O’Mahony give their views on training programmes along with Irish u20 International Shane Buckley
The video of Peter and Colm is here

Looks like James Rael is also in the academy. http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/10506.php

Lelantos

thomond2006 wrote: »

cuttothechase, we can only sign a project player ie uncapped player. Liam Messam is capped so he's out. A good player though and exactly the type of atlhetic bruiser Munster need.[/Quote http://m.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/sport/7013213/Top-coach-heads-to-Ireland worth a read .

thomond2006

Article in above post, Rob Penney wrote:

"I've had a really good look at Munster's style. It's not a style that I'm a massive fan of but it's been effective for them over the years. They are going through a transition. They've had a core group of players together for about 10-11 years. They've had a really tight group, a passionate group."I hope to be able to add some value around the style of play that they are going to go forward with because results from them more recently haven't been where they would like them to be.

irishbucsfan

I reckon it'll be a very intense preseason with a lot of big decisions made. Might try to get as many internationals back ASAP

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

A blessing!

Tox56

That sounds ominous, like Munster have finally realised they have the players capable of playing a more exciting brand of rugby, especially with the likes of Laulala still to come in

fitz

thomond2006 wrote: »

That's a hugely encouraging quote.

Lelantos

fitz wrote: »

thomond2006 wrote: »

That's a hugely encouraging quote.

That and the fact that within 4 years he had totally changed the team bar 1 player & the average age was so low! Plenty of gametime ahead for Kilcoyne I would think & a few others

fitz

Genuinely think that Munster are going to turn their game around a lot quicker than people think. If Penney settles in well and gets things clicking, I reckon the inter-pros next season are going to be crackers...

profitius

fitz wrote: »

Genuinely think that Munster are going to turn their game around a lot quicker than people think. If Penney settles in well and gets things clicking, I reckon the inter-pros next season are going to be crackers...

I think there'll be noticable changes in the first few weeks and after that its only a matter of time before the players adjust and fully understand what Penney wants.

It was great to see Penney saying that he isn't a fan of their style of play. Thats one step in the right direction already. No doubt Penney will be on the phone to Axel, giving him instructions and letting Axel know his plans.