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being able to spell = being intelligent

  • 12-04-2010 9:48am
    #1
    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    im on holidays at the moment:D:D:D

    imputing a short poll with this because its something iv noticed lately

    in your opinion do you consider being able to spell correctly = being intelligent 377 votes

    yes i do consider being able to spell correctly is a measure of intelligence
    0% 0 votes
    no i don't consider being able to spell is a measure of intelligence
    50% 192 votes
    im pedantic about everything that just the way i am and thus cant help correcting peoples spelling
    40% 154 votes
    people who cant be bothered to use spell check annoy me
    8% 31 votes


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Are you calling yourself stupid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭dancingqueen


    Personally, I can't talk to someone who doesn't spell properly in a text. The same applies for emails.

    It is the first thing you learn in school... why do people still insist on writing things as they hear them?

    Irritates the poop out of me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭James Forde


    isn't an iv something they stick into you at a hospital


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    bryanjf wrote: »
    isn't an iv something they stick into you at a hospital
    I thought an IV was in its own league!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Personally, I can't talk to someone who doesn't spell properly in a text. The same applies for emails.

    It is the first thing you learn in school... why do people still insist on writing things as they hear them?

    Irritates the poop out of me!

    Because some people are dyslexic and it's not their fault?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,467 ✭✭✭Wazdakka


    I try my best to write quite concisely and dear got txt speak pisses me right off..

    But to be honest, I'd be lost without spell check or that red line that firefox gives me under words I've misspelled.

    DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Because some people are dyslexic and it's not their fault?
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    mariaalice wrote: »
    imputing a short poll with this because its something iv noticed lately

    impute v. 1) to attach to a person responsibility (and therefore financial liability) for acts or injuries to another, because of a particular relationship, such as mother to child, guardian to ward, employer to employee, or business associates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Being able to spell = intelligent? No.

    For me, absolutely zero punctuation whatsoever - as in, no full stops or commas or dashes to indicate pauses - makes things difficult to read in places, but otherwise, once I understand what they're saying, that's sufficient.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Kiera wrote: »
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?

    I'm not dyslexic myself but sometimes when I use spellcheck it throws up different words entirely to what you're trying to spell. Can only imagine how tricky it is for someone with dyslexia.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Personally, I can't talk to someone who doesn't spell properly in a text. The same applies for emails.

    It is the first thing you learn in school... why do people still insist on writing things as they hear them?

    Irritates the poop out of me!

    In school I was told to try and figure out how something is spelt according to how it sounds. Then again, I also needed to use vowels to get the spelling right.

    With "texts," due to limited character sizes, people cut out "vwls" to utilise more space. Unfortunately, kids took this up as a force of habit. Those kids 10 years ago are becoming older now and cutting out "vwls" is considered the norm amongst them.

    I do agree, it's shocking seeing my little sister do this, but that's how langauge...er... developes *Shudders*...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    TheZohan wrote: »
    I'm not dyslexic myself but sometimes when I use spellcheck it throws up different words entirely to what you're trying to spell. Can only imagine how tricky it is for someone with dyslexia.
    Yeah I totally get that. I'm the same.

    In saying that, I by no means think dyslexic people are stupid in any way (just to clear that up, in case i'm taken up wrong).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Wazdakka wrote: »
    I try my best to write quite concisely and dear got txt speak pisses me right off..

    But to be honest, I'd be lost without spell check or that red line that firefox gives me under words I've misspelled.

    DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD UNTIE!!

    spell check doesn't work when you spell a word properly though-like got instead of god. :D


    Yes,i did tick the box about being pedantic about these things :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Doesn't bother Pighead in the slightest. Would you judge somebody who is blind or somebody who couldn't speak? Of course not. Don't really see why people are singling out people who can't smell. Smacks of double standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,084 ✭✭✭Grumpypants


    I used to use spell check but now i know bad spelling annoys people so much i dont bother.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,399 ✭✭✭Bonito


    Kiera wrote: »
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?
    TBH it depends on whether the Op is talking about in general or just on the Internet when they have the spell check option but just can't be bothered to use it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    There's a difference between being completely unable to spell and being too damn lazy to bother re-reading your post. You can very easily tell the difference between the two. I don't think either are a sign of intelligence, but I'll definitely spend less time looking at obviously sloppy posts.

    A mate of mine can't spell to save his life because his education was sub-par, to say the least. His text messages used to be a complete nightmare to read, but since T9 became the standard, he's doing a lot better and often makes up entirely new and brilliant phonetic spellings for everyday words. (Numoania)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭The Mad Hatter


    I'm pretty easy-going about slips and mistakes, but I don't think dyslexia is an excuse for laziness. It's been shown to be misdiagnosed in a very large number of cases anyhow.

    I'll give anyone the benefit of the doubt, but I probably won't be impressed by someone who, say, doesn't know the difference between "being" and "been."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Kiera wrote: »
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?
    Spell cheque wood say hat this sentence is correct...:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    seamus wrote: »
    (Numoania)
    Awesome :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    If someone's writing was littered with lots of spelling mistakes then I'd be inclined to rate their intelligence lower. I don't really care if I'd be wrong in a minority of cases, I'm sure time would correct that mistake for me, but if you don't put any effort into something as fundamental as spelling I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    Kiera wrote: »
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?

    I'm dyslexic and I always use it for emails, I don't send hand written letters because my hand writing is cat but anything I have to post, I'll type and spell check.

    I could not be arsed on thing's like boards and facebook and IM's and crap though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,973 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    I like good spelling and it's always been a strong point for me. However, I wouldn't judge a persons intelligence on it. Now punctuation, or the lack of, really annoys me. There is no excuse for it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    mariaalice wrote: »
    im on holidays at the moment:D:D:D

    imputing a short poll with this because its something iv noticed lately

    Ar yo takin de pis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I am so pedantic it actually bothered me to choose that option in the poll as it has grammatical errors.
    I'm pedantic about everything, that's just the way I am and thus can't help correcting peoples spelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    Pighead wrote: »
    Doesn't bother Pighead in the slightest. Would you judge somebody who is blind or somebody who couldn't speak? Of course not. Don't really see why people are singling out people who can't smell. Smacks of double standards.

    My sense of smell has no affect on my spelling whatsoever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    I'm pretty pedantic about spelling and grammar, but I don't think good spelling and intelligence are related. I know some dyslexic people who are extremely intelligent.

    I do wince at txt spk and the likes. Recently I emailed a travel agent with an enquiry about a flight I wanted to book. The reply I got ended with "Do u want me 2 book it 4 u?" I went with a different travel agent in the end!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    NothingMan wrote: »
    I am so pedantic it actually bothered me to choose that option in the poll as it has grammatical errors.
    I'm pedantic about everything, that's just the way I am and thus can't help correcting peoples spelling.

    Ya missed a spot...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in
    waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the
    frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses
    and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid
    deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.



    so esay


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Ya missed a spot...


    \O/ YAY, I'm learning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    people who care about spelling and grammar on internert message boards are less intelligent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    wilson10 wrote: »
    My sense of smell has no affect on my spelling whatsoever

    Does it affect your funny bone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Yes I would hope so.

    Your spelling comes across as a mark of your intelligence.

    Usually if someone "Talkz abot hw gr8 d nyte woz" they're not the brightest person in the world. If you're dyslexic, spellcheck is just a click away.

    Typo's are fine but people who spell like the above do my nut in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭kmick


    I dont spelling has any relation to intelligence. However outside of the internet your spelling has a bearing on how other people see you. There is no excuse for bad spelling in a Word document or email so if people send me an email with bad spelling I assume they are lazy and sloppy. IMHO it usually bears out when you meet them or have to deal with them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    bryanjf wrote: »
    isn't an iv something they stick into you at a hospital

    Not to mention the fact that an "im" is an instant message.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Sykk wrote: »
    Usually if someone "Talkz abot hw gr8 d nyte woz" they're not the brightest person in the world. If you're dyslexic, spellcheck is just a click away.

    Intelligence to me is about understanding and comprehension. If I know what they are writing, it does me. It's how "youth / pop culture" has taken to writing these days, so it's going to stick and possibily progress further like that.

    In reference to them possibly not being the brightest person in the world... you gotta accept that even though everyone would have the ability to develope into a highly regarded intellect, not everyone is going to, nor should that have to, or at least in line with what's currently regarded as the standards these days.
    kmick wrote: »
    I dont spelling has any realtion to intelligence. However outside of the internet your spelling has a bearing on how other people see you. There is no excuse for bad spelling in a Word document or email so if people send me an email with bad spelling I assume they are lazy and sloppy. IMHO it usually bears out when you meet them or have to deal with them.

    Judging someone as being lazy or sloppy is taking their personality into question, not their intelligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    how does not spelling words correctly, not using grammar and using acryonms actually show a lack of intelligence? its not as if spelling is difficult anyway which means that most people can use correct grammar and spell correctly but they chose to do otherwise.

    infact spelling is so easy because of the number of tools we have to spell things for us that usiing it as a measure of intelligence is retarded


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Kiera wrote: »
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?
    there are different types of dyslexia some like mine don't allow you wright or spell without great difficulty but you can read anbd to a degree see misspellings

    so i can see what i've written si wrong but don't know what to write instead
    same as spell checker it dosen't always know ho to spell the word you are looking for


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Whisky Sticks


    Glad I'm not declexick!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Kiera wrote: »
    So being dyslexic means you cant use spell check for posts or emails?


    Great in theory but it doesnt really work when your posting.. Genrally lysdexic people spell phoneticaly, we miss silent letters out. So when you put your post into word and click spell check it doesnt give you the words we require, but mad variations, of other words. you end up with words that really make no sence.

    Then you gotta take in genrall grammer I know from my own emails letters some thing's I type make no sence what so ever. Esspechilly when I type at speed.

    But if you don't understand dyslexia or see how it works and what the brain does its kinda like the m50 with the tole bridge instead of cars youve got information movements and what nots moving from one part of the brain to the other except in place's theres blockages with in the brain.

    and things slow down, you chat to any dyslexic theyle say they have the information, but getting it from the brain to a peace of papaer is exceptionaly difficult, because your concintrating on a typing or writing even talking and keeping your train of thaught, and thats where dyslexia and something has to give useually spelling for getting words or even lossing track of what your saying.

    The only way I've found to keep my train of thuaght is to type slowly and not type at sillys speeds.

    Having said all that dyslexia is also to do with eye movements we may read a book well throw words in that arnt really there but 6 lines below us, and then you have to reread a hole page agin because we get even more confussed...

    If you think its just a simple spelling dissorder its not it affects a very wide range of things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,716 ✭✭✭✭Earthhorse


    Sheeps wrote: »
    its not as if spelling is difficult anyway which means that most people can use correct grammar and spell correctly but they chose to do otherwise.

    infact spelling is so easy because of the number of tools we have to spell things for us that usiing it as a measure of intelligence is retarded

    If it's so easy, only a stupid person could get it wrong, surely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    bryanjf wrote: »
    isn't an iv something they stick into you at a hospital

    Not to mention the fact that an "im" is an instant message.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,595 ✭✭✭The Lovely Muffin


    Everyone makes mistakes, spelling or otherwise.

    I remember one time I accidentally made a spelling mistake and my cousin straight out told me 'novels help with spellin'.
    TheZohan wrote: »
    Because some people are dyslexic and it's not their fault?
    +1. (I am not dyslexic, btw).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Sheeps wrote: »
    how does not spelling words correctly, not using grammar and using acryonms actually show a lack of intelligence? its not as if spelling is difficult anyway which means that most people can use correct grammar and spell correctly but they chose to do otherwise.

    infact spelling is so easy because of the number of tools we have to spell things for us that usiing it as a measure of intelligence is retarded

    "infact" spelling mustn't be that easy.... ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    no, theres no way of comparing because the test or qualification set is so diluted with people who cant spell but and rely on spell checkers to create the illusion they can. its similar to the chinese room experiment which invalidates the turing test as a test of artificial intelligence

    if you want a test of intelligence you pick a harder task as a measure to give a more broad spectrum of results


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    I don't think dyslexia is an excuse for laziness.
    But it's the dyslexia, not laziness, that causes the mis-spelling. As has been pointed out here by a person who is dyslexic, spellcheck isn't enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,793 ✭✭✭✭Hagar


    NothingMan wrote: »
    I am so pedantic it actually bothered me to choose that option in the poll as it has grammatical errors.
    Ya missed a spot...
    I'm pedantic about everything, that's just the way I am and thus can't help correcting people's spelling.

    So did you. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    1st wrote: »
    So did you. ;)

    Wrong. peoples is correct. People's would mean people is, which just doesn't make sense. :P


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    1st wrote: »
    So did you. ;)

    well, I said a spot... sure there's more...

    I'm not pedantic but...
    I'm pedantic about everything, that's just the way I am, thus can't help correcting people's spelling.

    ;)
    NothingMan wrote: »
    Wrong. peoples is correct. People's would mean people is, which just doesn't make sense. :P

    "'s" can also refer to ownership, as opposed to multiple people. I think that's the point he was making.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    Dudess wrote: »
    But it's the dyslexia, not laziness, that causes the mis-spelling. As has been pointed out here by a person who is dyslexic, spellcheck isn't enough.


    It can make you lazy and you can use the im dyslexic card in school saw it with a few people i went to school with.....


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