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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Only a guard can sign it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭treascon


    Only a guard can sign it.

    Completely incorrect information. There is a list of people who can sign the form with the additional information sheet or I’m sure it’s available online. Anyway to the op you were unlucky in that you got a really unhelpful person! I would just go in again and hopefully get someone else. Just more hassle for you though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    He was bout 12 ! Great thanks. I will go back again tomorrow


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Just back from the guards station. Trying to renew our sons passport but the guards wouldn't sign it because he said he didn't personally know us,that we need to bring it to a priest,bank manager or school teacher that would know us. Did we just get an eejit of a guard or is this a new thing?!? The only one I'd know is a school teacher but they are out for holidays?!

    Are you in Northern Ireland or near the border? Only a Garda can sign the aps1 form. If you're in Northern Ireland and you're using the aps2 form, there's a list of professions who can sign the form. The garda's probably getting mixed up about who can sign which form.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Just back from the guards station. Trying to renew our sons passport but the guards wouldn't sign it because he said he didn't personally know us,that we need to bring it to a priest,bank manager or school teacher that would know us. Did we just get an eejit of a guard or is this a new thing?!? The only one I'd know is a school teacher but they are out for holidays?!

    We had to get someone who knew us to do part 7 (a solicitor) and then the Garda did the other part but both of us had to be present with the baby. It's a lot of work! After all that was done they called both of us to confirm our consent and my husband had to email through a picture of his own passport. They are very careful with the child applications.

    My husband renewed his online and despite having to resubmit his photo it was a matter of days before it issued. Great service


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Julmce


    Hi there,
    My boyfriend is set to go on holidays on Friday however found out yesterday his passport was expired. Does anyone have any recent experience with getting an emergency passport in such little time. Is he better off going to cork or Dublin passport office, he will go Tuesday morning as Monday is a bank holiday but he isn’t sure whether cork or Dublin is the best option??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    Where does he live?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Julmce


    Stanford wrote: »
    Where does he live?

    Cork but if Dublin is more likely to get it done in time, it’s no problem going up there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Make an appointment for Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Given it is a short week and he is traveling on Friday, do not waste time trying to get through on the phone
    Be at the Cork or Dublin passport office as soon as the door opens first thing on Tuesday morning.
    Make sure to have all the passport application documents fully completed and photos (4) stamped and signed by an Garda before you get there.
    Make sure to have proof of the travel arrangements and when booked.
    Make sure to have the expired passport.
    I think it costs 150 euro for urgent turnaround.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Make an appointment for Cork.

    I disagree, they can't print passports in Cork. He does have enough time for one to be couriered from Dublin but to be safe I'd go to Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    Caranica wrote: »
    I disagree, they can't print passports in Cork. He does have enough time for one to be couriered from Dublin but to be safe I'd go to Dublin

    If they are only printed in Dublin, then I would agree, he needs to get to Dublin to be sure of minimal delay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    K.Flyer wrote: »
    If they are only printed in Dublin, then I would agree, he needs to get to Dublin to be sure of minimal delay.

    No passport printing facilities in Cork, Mount Street and Balbriggan only.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    They can surely courier a passport down to Cork in time?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭L1985


    Ah 12:30 the day before a limited number of emergency appointments are released for Dublin for ppl in that situation. I did it and got in but you need to get that appointment!! Just showing up is riskier and if he hops on o Tuesday he should be able to get an appointment for Wednesday. Best of luck!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    You can book those online appointments online. I believe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    My parents applied online for a new passport on a Thursday afternoon last week and they were delivered Monday morning by an post.

    Check that out first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,565 ✭✭✭K.Flyer


    You can book those online appointments online. I believe

    You can, but from my own experience, and a tip I was given from an insider ;) it was better to be at the door first thing in the morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭birdwatcher


    Applied for a replacement passport last Saturday (28th July) night ONLINE (10:30pm)
    Passport was delivered to my door Dublin Tuesday 31st July (9:00am)

    Fastest turnaround tome ever.
    They don't have to process the paperwork - the entire system seems to be automated - they just print all of the details you enter online and it saves so much time.
    Had the photo taken in a pharmacy €7
    Passport application fee €80
    Brilliant service.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    The system should not accept paper applications form those eligible to renew online. That should cut queues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Applied for a replacement passport last Saturday (28th July) night ONLINE (10:30pm)
    Passport was delivered to my door Dublin Tuesday 31st July (9:00am)

    Fastest turnaround tome ever.
    They don't have to process the paperwork - the entire system seems to be automated - they just print all of the details you enter online and it saves so much time.
    Had the photo taken in a pharmacy €7
    Passport application fee €80
    Brilliant service.

    There are photo booths around that take the pics, I used one in tesco, they have a deal with the passport office. Its 8 euro it gives you 4 photos and a code that you input when applying online and your pic pops up dead easy. agree that its a brilliant service and I dont know why its not being pushed a bit it would free up a lot of the backlogs if adult renewals werent being done manually.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    The system should not accept paper applications form those eligible to renew online. That should cut queues.

    As they are a public service, they still have to make a paper application form available to those who are unable to use the online system for whatever reason. E.g. Elderly people who aren't computer literate and have no one to help them apply online.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    fxotoole wrote: »
    As they are a public service, they still have to make a paper application form available to those who are unable to use the online system for whatever reason. E.g. Elderly people who aren't computer literate and have no one to help them apply online.
    if youre that much of an invalid you wouldn't be travelling abroad

    The government was giving out free passports to pensioners for a while, but eventually people copped on that anyone travelling abroad was neither poor nor vulnerable so they knocked that on the head at the first opportunity.

    Maybe indeed it'd be too extreme to ban applying by post altogether for renewals, but maybe just double the cost (excluding "vulnerable" pensioners) which would REALLY focus peoples minds on whether they really want to waste their time and the offices time with a cumbersome paper application.

    Its going that way with public transport, that the difference between cash and leap card now makes it actually worthwhile going cashless, whereas when there was little to no difference people (like me!) just kept paying in cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭happygoose


    QQ on passport renewal and booking flights...

    Can I book a flight on a passport then travel on a new passport?

    My current passport expires in the middle of September, and I'm hoping to travel at the end, or beginning of October. Passport bookings require a passport number, which changes with each new passport.

    Thanks...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,564 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    What airline and destination are you planning to book?

    If it's a US flight, you can enter the data (known as API - advance passenger information) later.

    The normal requirement is simply that you enter your name on the flight booking so that it exactly matches the first name on your passport. I'm not aware of any situation where you have to enter all of your passport details at the time of booking, precisely because you could have a passport that's going to expire before you fly.
    happygoose wrote: »
    Passport bookings require a passport number, which changes with each new passport.

    What is a 'passport booking'?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    I came into Dublin airport recently from Liverpool and had to go through Passport control and show my passport. I mentioned to a guy who worked there about the talk of the free travel area in the context of the whole Brexit discussion and why was there a need for passports. He looked like he hadn't the faintest notion what the free travel area was and said that they had this arrangement in place "for the last 15 years".

    That's funny as I travelled to London (with Aer Lingus) in March 2016 using my driving licence as ID and nobody on either side of the pond batted an eyelid and I was not required to produce a passport coming into Ireland. On this occasion the only reason I actually had a passport was because it was a Ryanair flight.

    I am right in thinking that there is a free travel area between the UK and Ireland and that a passport should not be a requirement, am I?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Arriving from the UK if you are a UK or Irish Citizen a passport is not legally required. Ryanair have other ideas. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    I came into Dublin airport recently from Liverpool and had to go through Passport control and show my passport. I mentioned to a guy who worked there about the talk of the free travel area in the context of the whole Brexit discussion and why was there a need for passports. He looked like he hadn't the faintest notion what the free travel area was and said that they had this arrangement in place "for the last 15 years".

    That's funny as I travelled to London (with Aer Lingus) in March 2016 using my driving licence as ID and nobody on either side of the pond batted an eyelid and I was not required to produce a passport coming into Ireland. On this occasion the only reason I actually had a passport was because it was a Ryanair flight.

    I am right in thinking that there is a free travel area between the UK and Ireland and that a passport should not be a requirement, am I?

    Irish airports don't have the facilities to segregate UK and Ireland departures so everyone goes through border control. A passport is not a requirement for travel from the UK or Ireland but official photo id is and if you produce something other than a passport you may be asked some questions. I traveled from the UK on my drivers licence and was asked for my boarding pass and where I lived.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Thanks for the replies. That certainly was my understanding but I was surprised at the apparent assumption that we would have passports.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    Thanks for the replies. That certainly was my understanding but I was surprised at the apparent assumption that we would have passports.

    Easiest thing is just have a valid passport when travelling. Much prefer that ppl carry passports than some free for all causing endless delays


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Arriving from the UK if you are a UK or Irish Citizen a passport is not legally required. Ryanair have other ideas. ;)

    Why are people so hung up about it. Just bring your passport with you and none of these issues arise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Why? The Common Travel Area still exists. The Irish Government is still required to follow it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,564 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    The common travel area (CTA) applies to Irish and UK citizens only.

    Which gives rise to a logical conundrum ...... you don't need a passport coming off a UK flight in Dublin because you are an Irish citizen but in order to avail of the CTA, you have to prove that you are an Irish citizen.

    Without an Irish passport, you would need to show the boarding pass to prove that you are coming from the UK and availing of the CTA and something which proves your Irish citizenship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Why? The Common Travel Area still exists. The Irish Government is still required to follow it.

    Just bring a passport and save yourself and everyone else longer queuing time and unneccesary questions -job done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    coylemj wrote: »
    The common travel area (CTA) applies to Irish and UK citizens only.

    Which gives rise to a logical conundrum ...... you don't need a passport coming off a UK flight in Dublin because you are an Irish citizen but in order to avail of the CTA, you have to prove that you are an Irish citizen.

    Without an Irish passport, you would need to show the boarding pass to prove that you are coming from the UK and availing of the CTA and something which proves your Irish citizenship.

    Very simple solution to all of this dancing around the head of a pin. Bring your passport and show it to the guard at the desk when you get back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,564 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Why are people so hung up about it. Just bring your passport with you and none of these issues arise.
    Just bring a passport and save yourself and everyone else longer queuing time and unneccesary questions -job done
    Very simple solution to all of this dancing around the head of a pin. Bring your passport and show it to the guard at the desk when you get back.

    I think you've made your point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    I make a point of not using a passport if I am on a CTA flight. That is my right and the Irish govt respects that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I make a point of not using a passport if I am on a CTA flight. That is my right and the Irish govt respects that.

    Me personally I wouldn’t mind if it was done away with. I hate the idea of this free for all at the border. People coming in nobody knowing who they are.lot of ppl nowadays Just bring a passport and it cuts out all the confusion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    Of course we know who they are. Why are you being so obtuse?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Of course we know who they are. Why are you being so obtuse?

    If someone arrives at the Irish border and says I have no passport let me in I’m Irish how do you expect the guards to be able to prove or disprove it? However if you have your passport there is no doubt as to nationality


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,253 ✭✭✭goingnowhere


    Applied 1553 Sunday for renewal
    Passport arrived 0846 Tuesday

    Can't beat that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Just bring a passport and save yourself and everyone else longer queuing time and unneccesary questions -job done


    But the "save everyone the bother" approach is not what legislation provides for. The notion of people examining boarding passes or some version of identification as you would be expected to have that on any flight anyway is not a problem. But I have difficulty with the idea that there is an arrangement for a common travel area and some officials seem unaware of this and expect that you are to lumped into a process where they expect a passport.

    As for being concerned about anyone showing up at your border and having unfettered access...……………..well that already happens on the Ireland/Northern Ireland border every hour of every day. Why is it suddenly such an issue?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    happygoose wrote: »
    QQ on passport renewal and booking flights...

    Can I book a flight on a passport then travel on a new passport?

    My current passport expires in the middle of September, and I'm hoping to travel at the end, or beginning of October. Passport bookings require a passport number, which changes with each new passport.

    Thanks...

    Just renew online, you'll have your new passport in a matter of days, and sidestep the issue entirely


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    I came into Dublin airport recently from Liverpool and had to go through Passport control and show my passport. I mentioned to a guy who worked there about the talk of the free travel area in the context of the whole Brexit discussion and why was there a need for passports. He looked like he hadn't the faintest notion what the free travel area was and said that they had this arrangement in place "for the last 15 years".

    That's funny as I travelled to London (with Aer Lingus) in March 2016 using my driving licence as ID and nobody on either side of the pond batted an eyelid and I was not required to produce a passport coming into Ireland. On this occasion the only reason I actually had a passport was because it was a Ryanair flight.

    I am right in thinking that there is a free travel area between the UK and Ireland and that a passport should not be a requirement, am I?

    Yes you're 100% correct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    fxotoole wrote: »
    Yes you're 100% correct

    Well not quite. It's a free travel area for citizens of the UK and Ireland, not for others.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    Well not quite. It's a free travel area for citizens of the UK and Ireland, not for others.

    Isn't that what he said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,896 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    But the "save everyone the bother" approach is not what legislation provides for. The notion of people examining boarding passes or some version of identification as you would be expected to have that on any flight anyway is not a problem. But I have difficulty with the idea that there is an arrangement for a common travel area and some officials seem unaware of this and expect that you are to lumped into a process where they expect a passport.

    As for being concerned about anyone showing up at your border and having unfettered access...……………..well that already happens on the Ireland/Northern Ireland border every hour of every day. Why is it suddenly such an issue?


    I just try to have COMMON SENSE when it comes to these issues.

    I bring a passport to show the guard and advise everyone else to as well.

    From what your saying it Sounds to me that the guards are actually enforcing a passport check and fair play to them I say. We can’t have a free for all. It’s bad enough as it is.

    And I would have concerns about all the borders actually.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Under His Eye


    They also allow people to use driving licences as ID.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    fxotoole wrote: »
    Isn't that what he said?

    Nope. Never mentioned anything about nationality which is key as it only references people not their origin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Explosive_Cornflake


    fxotoole wrote: »
    Isn't that what he said?

    The subtle difference is, you need to be a citizen of the UK and Ireland to qualify for the FTA, travelling between the UK and Ireland. If you were, say, German, you wouldn't qualify.

    You need to prove you're eligible with your ID, to not use your ID.


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