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Powerlifters and Rippetoe fans

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    #62
    BobbyOLeary
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    bubbleking wrote: »
    ha sorry didnt mean to stereotype. And i was just using olympic sports as an example - you could use any sport activity really - sprinting, jumping for height/distance, distance running to a lesser extent - any sport that requires power

    But only at a high level. Where do you think that power comes from? At a top level then extra strength might not help as they've reached their optimum level but for everyone else a bit of extra strength can't and won't hurt.


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    #63
    brianthebard
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    bubbleking wrote: »
    ha sorry didnt mean to stereotype. And i was just using olympic sports as an example - you could use any sport activity really - sprinting, jumping for height/distance, distance running to a lesser extent - any sport that requires power

    Your argument is very muddled, you're talking about athletes one minute and top heavy amatuers the next. Do you expect anyone to believe that being top heavy is an asset in overall athleticism? Haven't a clue what your argument is tbh because its all over the place.


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    #64
    Hanley
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    bubbleking wrote: »
    Sorry maybe I should have rephrased that to relative strength instead of strength in isolation. If sporting performance was purely based on strength alone then you would see far bigger athletes at world events. Take the javelin or hammer throw for example - yes these guys are big but if they got any bigger their strength might increase but their power would definitely decrease.

    I think the relationship between strength and power is a very fine balance

    Riiiiiiiight so the stronger you get, the less power you can generate?


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    #65
    bubbleking
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    brianthebard wrote: »
    Your argument is very muddled, you're talking about athletes one minute and top heavy amatuers the next. Do you expect anyone to believe that being top heavy is an asset in overall athleticism? Haven't a clue what your argument is tbh because its all over the place.

    ha agreed my argument is very poorly structured.

    people on here agreed that losing mass decreases strength while gaining mass increases strength

    the point i was trying to make was that if you put on too much mass (although it will improve your strength) it will be a hinderence to sporting performance

    therefore increasing strength after a certain point will not increase performance


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    #66
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    bubbleking wrote: »
    ha agreed my argument is very poorly structured.

    people on here agreed that losing mass decreases strength while gaining mass increases strength

    the point i was trying to make was that if you put on too much mass (although it will improve your strength) it will be a hinderence to sporting performance

    therefore increasing strength after a certain point will not increase performance

    Your example was poor though, adding mass in one area and ignoring the rest of your body will of course not result in an increase in performance. I'd love to see a real example of where adding strength does not improve performance, they are almost linearly connected.


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    #67
    itsallaboutheL
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    bubbleking wrote: »
    ha agreed my argument is very poorly structured.

    people on here agreed that losing mass decreases strength while gaining mass increases strength

    the point i was trying to make was that if you put on too much mass (although it will improve your strength) it will be a hinderence to sporting performance

    therefore increasing strength after a certain point will not increase performance

    Adding Mass and Adding strength aren't entirely mutually inclusive, the strength gained from improving mass isn't necessarily the same as the mass gained from improving strength.

    if ya get what i'm trying to say


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    #68
    BobbyOLeary
    Closed Accounts Posts: 859 ✭✭✭BobbyOLeary


    bubbleking wrote: »
    ha agreed my argument is very poorly structured.

    people on here agreed that losing mass decreases strength while gaining mass increases strength

    the point i was trying to make was that if you put on too much mass (although it will improve your strength) it will be a hinderence to sporting performance

    therefore increasing strength after a certain point will not increase performance

    Yes but that point is so far out of sight of 99.99% of people that it shouldn't matter.


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