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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    A settled team is what we need. Yesterdays match was good and bad. Good for confidence, but Wexford were worse than an average club team.

    Clare must really have been a fluke last year to be beaten by wexford.


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭LMK


    I would not change the team, I'd hold Dodge in reserve he's not a full 70 mins player any more and the lads don't want to sub him for among other things the calmness he gives to the rest, IMO I'd prefer the dynamism that Tom Ryan brings mixed in with Breen and Hannon on the 40. Bring Dodge and Tobin on with 20-25 to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    paddy no 11
    Dodgy will be ok for next day and don't think any of our injuries are too serious.

    What is the latest news on Shane Dowling's hand injury?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    Just going to throw down a few points on yesterday.

    Firstly, delighted to be back in the semi final this year. I'd have taken any victory yesterday but it was very pleasing to put in a performance like yesterday against a team like Wexford. We don't ever really give any team a trimming so that was satisfying enough.

    Was extremely happy with the hunger our forwards showed in the first half. Some of the hooking and blocking and the pressure play was exceptional. We forced Wexford into a lot of mistakes and we took some of our scores very well along with hitting some incredibly bad wides.

    I thought our half back line was in trouble after 15 minutes as Wexford were getting a bit of joy when they ran at us. They started to get on top soon after and when Wexford hit their bad wides and missed their goal chance I felt the result was never in doubt.

    Very happy with Hannon's performance. He really got involved in the game and won some important frees. A good performance from him so I was delighted for the lad. Hopefully he can kick on and put in a performance against Kilkenny. Mulcahy has found some form. Great effort from him and I felt he was our best man against Cork. Dowling got some lovely scores. He has some ability in fairness to him and leaves us all think what might have been had he actually started against Clare last year. Downes won some good ball but he hit some very bad wides and he'll be disappointed with them.

    Full back line put in a very accomplished performance again with Hickey having a great day in the corner.

    Very happy for TJ. Not many expected us to be here after the Donal O'Grady episode at the start of the year but the way we reacted to that shows the hunger and drive that's in the squad. We have to believe now that we can go and beat Kilkenny. It'll be a big day out in Croke park with a massive crowd and it's set up for us to have a right crack off Kilkenny. Luimneach abú


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Just watched first half back, GOM was very poor, it would be a mistake to start him the next day


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    Rightwing wrote: »
    A settled team is what we need. Yesterdays match was good and bad. Good for confidence, but Wexford were worse than an average club team.

    Clare must really have been a fluke last year to be beaten by wexford.

    You don't win all Irelands by fluking your way to handling Liam Mccarthy.
    Clare have regressed big time from a sharp peak last August and Sept. Lots can change in 12 months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭Hidalgo


    Just watched first half back, GOM was very poor, it would be a mistake to start him the next day

    From a neutral perspective Limericks wing backs would be a worry. Any half back would want to be in top form facing into TJ Reid. Neither O Brien nor O Mahoney are currently in top form


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Hidalgo wrote: »
    From a neutral perspective Limericks wing backs would be a worry. Any half back would want to be in top form facing into TJ Reid. Neither O Brien nor O Mahoney are currently in top form

    Agreed, watched the whole thing both were very poor, GOM was every bit as lethargic as he was against cork, guiney was able to move away from him, cleaned out under high ball. POB got taken for 3 points by O'Keefee for 3 points and contributed little, at least tried to play in low ball but it was inaccurate.

    Wayne mac was also ropey in the first 15, the naivety for the chance that fell to doran was ridiculous 2 players rushing to the man in posession, leaving doran unmarked.

    Seriously concerned, i would not start GOM.


  • Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭grimbergen


    The main conclusion to be drawn from yesterday's match is that the best thing to happen to Limerick hurling this year was getting rid of OGrady as manager.

    A few shrewd people said at the time that his departure was a blessing in disguise and they were absolutely right. Whatever the players and management achieve this year massive credit is due for how they handled that situation and moved on from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Thoughts on each player:

    Quaid- I'd be one of the people who would like to see him moved outfield, because I think he could be the answer to our half-back problems, and Aaron Murphy is a fine keeper. But he's just so reliable in goal, safe as a house under the high ball, never loses the ball, his puck-outs were top class yesterday, made most saves he had to make and couldn't do anything about the goal. Excellent again. 8/10.

    Condon- Wexford didn't really threaten much inside, Condon was a lot more solid than he was against Cadogan. Couple of mistakes but I wouldn't worry about him. 7/10.

    McCarthy- The best full-back in the country at the moment. McDonald had some joy when he moved out to centre-forward, I think he scored 1 off McCarthy, but Richie was dominant. So strong, a very intelligent hurler. Okay, the ball in wasn't always the greatest, but he was excellent. And his block with his head, and being subbed off to a rousing reception. Class. 8/10.

    Hickey- He even out-did McCarthy. McGovern had been identified as one of the biggest threats, he caused huge problems for Clare in particular, getting Browne sent off. Hickey completely cleaned him out, was a fantastic display of corner-back play. Everything went right for him- in the air, on the ground, in possession. Class. 9/10.

    O'Brien- I thought he was a bit better than the last day but Diarmuid O'Keeffe did cause us problems on that side and he made a horrific error for the goal. Was mostly good on the ball. Still wouldn't be against a switch, but seems unlikely now. 6/10.

    Wayne- Bit shaky early on, McDonald scored 2 points when he moved out to centre-forward and he let Podge Doran escape too easily. But scored a wonder point, and is so strong. I think he did well, but can do better. Definitely think he's more suited to the wing than the centre, but he's not going to be moved at this stage. 7/10.

    Gavin- A few people are saying he was very weak, I watched the game back and thought he was okay. Not brilliant, not at his best, but better. Made a couple of excellent interceptions. Would still worry about him in the air or tracking the movement of someone like TJ Reid. But he did better. 7/10.

    Jim-Bob- What a man he is, an absolute warrior. Again, covers so much ground... if Hogan, Kearney & Walsh weren't all in top form too, I'd be saying both our midfielders would be shoo-ins for All-Stars, but there is so much quality in that area these days. One bad wide, but 2 good points, some great hard running. His move back to midfield has worked excellently for us. 9/10.

    Browne- Brilliant performance from him too, again hit a couple of bad wides, scored one good point, and took his goal well. But he uses the ball so intelligently, he's always there as an option to pass to and if we are to go further, he'll be key. 9/10.

    Breen- Wiped Ciaran Kenny out, showing aerial prowess that we wouldn't always associate with him. Very hard to stop when he gets going too... scored 1 goal, directly assisted 2... probably should have had another if he didn't make the basic error of catching the ball 3 times. In excellent form, and brings balance to our forwards. One of his best displays for Limerick. 9/10.

    Hannon- Also class, the move to centre-forward was a master-stroke by TJ and he can't be moved from there now, even if it is Brian Hogan he's up against. He couldn't catch a ball and wasn't fighting for it the last day, but he won a few great balls against a Wexford half-back line which had been known for its aerial ability. Scored 0-4, picked up the space well, could have had a goal or two... put his body on the line as well a couple of times, and showed the commitment we need. 9/10.

    Ryan- He did well. Worked very hard, has a huge engine and his defensive contribution in the first half was superb, made one great intervention in particular. Hit a couple of bad wides, but finished with 0-3. He's not a forward tbf to him, and he's unlucky not to be starting at wing-back, because you'd imagine Dodge will be back the next day. 8/10.

    Downes- Oh Downesy..... such a frustrating day for him. 5 times I think he did brilliantly to beat his man and set up what looked like a fairly handy score. And 5 times he put the ball wide. I don't think he's suited to playing in the corner tbh, but he still should be doing better. The fact that he's winning the ball, doing the work, and beating his man is good... but sometimes he takes the wrong option, and then his confidence must have taken a beating, because he missed some easy chances. He's probably the forward most in danger of losing his place now, but still a threat..... hard to know what to do... 5/10.

    Dowling- Absolutely class. 2-3 from play, unerring from frees, his handpass to Breen for the 1st goal was genius. 2 real poacher's finishes, unlucky not to get a hat-trick (great intervention by Ryan). He's not the quickest, but he's very very smart, he's able to create space for himself, he creates chances for others and when he gets the ball in hand, he's lethal. Did miss a few chances and that's something to work on. 9/10.

    Mulcahy- My man-of-the-match was Mulcahy, because I think he tortured Ryan. Broke some amount of ball for a small guy, he's impossible to stop, and he'll be frustrated he didn't score more. Set up a huge amount, but went for goal a few times when it wasn't on... I know the game was over, but he should have just taken his points. Great to see him in this kind of form though, he caused major problems for KK in 2012, I hope he'll do so again. 9/10.




    Tobin was class from the bench, scored 0-3, won some great ball, did lay down a marker but I imagine TJ will opt against throwing him in, he's just not as physically strong as Downesy. Walsh was very solid again.... I would be in favour of bringing him into the corner (even if his mistake against KK in 2012 really killed us). Moran was very quiet, looked rusty. Tommy O'Brien didn't touch the ball, which was a real pity, because he's so pacy and a threat with ball in hand. King didn't have much time tbh.


    A great win... I know Wexford weren't good, but we obliterated them in the 1st half, all the match-ups went our way, we played a really good style of hurling that suited the players we have. It won't be as easy against KK, but that was promising. Still need the few tweaks... half-back is still a major problem, and how do we contain Richie Hogan? But still... to have Dowling, Hannon, Breen & Mul in that form is just great, and Dodge to come back.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Im going to totally disagree with you on the half backs. We lost v cork because of them, and in the first 20 yesterday when the game was on they were well beaten (GOM being very poor again). It'll be a shame to leave an all ireland behind us because of something that is so obvious. Every other line on the field is good enough to beat Kilkenny, this line are currently underperforming and unless there's a massive turnaround in form we wont hold reid and walsh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    grimbergen wrote: »
    The main conclusion to be drawn from yesterday's match is that the best thing to happen to Limerick hurling this year was getting rid of OGrady as manager.

    A few shrewd people said at the time that his departure was a blessing in disguise and they were absolutely right. Whatever the players and management achieve this year massive credit is due for how they handled that situation and moved on from it.

    Wonder what Thinkstoomuch thinks of that now :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭Vanolder


    Im going to totally disagree with you on the half backs. We lost v cork because of them, and in the first 20 yesterday when the game was on they were well beaten (GOM being very poor again). It'll be a shame to leave an all ireland behind us because of something that is so obvious. Every other line on the field is good enough to beat Kilkenny, this line are currently underperforming and unless there's a massive turnaround in form we wont hold reid and walsh.

    +1.

    Mr Cody will be very happy with what he saw from our half back line Sunday- How we perform there is the winning and losing of this game as I have no worries about any other line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    grimbergen wrote: »
    The main conclusion to be drawn from yesterday's match is that the best thing to happen to Limerick hurling this year was getting rid of OGrady as manager.

    A few shrewd people said at the time that his departure was a blessing in disguise and they were absolutely right. Whatever the players and management achieve this year massive credit is due for how they handled that situation and moved on from it.

    I agree, he was quite a poor appointment, but he did some good in his first spell in charge. No question about that.

    We need luck v KK, but similar to last year, we can win the AI this year if things go our way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭glasagusban


    Will try and watch back on the player but only 3 real concerns for next day

    Have we a half back line to cope with KK, GOM was still poor when the game was a contest yesterday, i dont think he should start the next day, WW could take him to the cleaners. Happy with how Wayne mac is playing though, he's improving all the time esp since he's cut out the stupid runs. Lovely (wristy) point and liked the way he came in and read the riot act to the FB line when richie went off. POB was at fault for their goal im still not sure how he's going to cope against KK.

    Downes and Browne and accuracy in general, we pi*sed away the cork game in the first 20 and done the same yesterday, but for the opposition it could have cost us. Our accuracy last year was excellent, need to get back to that standard.

    Breen, won great ball, but he just puts his head down and runs, he never looks up, he fouled the ball for the first when he only needed to lay it off to an unmarked mulcahy, no need to catch again. His second shot was a poor effort, it went in but a better keeper stops that again mul was unmarked at the back post. Third shot was poor, keeper stops it but we werew lucky to have dowling to knock it in. Needs to get his head up, he done the same a couple of times to beat cork. The managemnt have sorted wayne macs stupid runs out, they need to tell breen to get his head up.

    Agree on the wing backs. Wayne was was solid. Condon had some ropey moments too which is a worry.

    I'm not worried about Downes. His touch is perfect, his fielding and workrate are superb, he is doing all the most difficult work for a forward at his ease. His eye will come in for shooting. Maybe he needs to take a little more out of the ball on occasion and either draw a free or get within better range. He had a super block down on a Wexford defender at one stage, the Wexford defender won the ball back and layed it off to a support player, Downes chased him down, blocked him, turned the ball over and then unfortunately struck it wide. It was a poor wide but the winning of that ball in the first place was outrageously good. He'll be fine for kk.

    Was fuming with Breen for the third catch, but seeing the replay it looks like he might have just lost control of the ball and caught it as a reaction rather than intentionally. He should have passed to Mulcahy on his first goal too though. Still if he performs like that again I won't quibble if he misses a pass.
    Im going to totally disagree with you on the half backs. We lost v cork because of them, and in the first 20 yesterday when the game was on they were well beaten (GOM being very poor again). It'll be a shame to leave an all ireland behind us because of something that is so obvious. Every other line on the field is good enough to beat Kilkenny, this line are currently underperforming and unless there's a massive turnaround in form we wont hold reid and walsh.

    Agree.

    We have to keep Hannon at 11 now surely, so hopefully Dodge comes back in on the wing. He's a better man to work back than Hannon anyway so hopefully he and Breen can work back a lot and provide some cover for our half backs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Agree on the wing backs. Wayne was was solid. Condon had some ropey moments too which is a worry.

    I'm not worried about Downes. His touch is perfect, his fielding and workrate are superb, he is doing all the most difficult work for a forward at his ease. His eye will come in for shooting. Maybe he needs to take a little more out of the ball on occasion and either draw a free or get within better range. He had a super block down on a Wexford defender at one stage, the Wexford defender won the ball back and layed it off to a support player, Downes chased him down, blocked him, turned the ball over and then unfortunately struck it wide. It was a poor wide but the winning of that ball in the first place was outrageously good. He'll be fine for kk.

    Was fuming with Breen for the third catch, but seeing the replay it looks like he might have just lost control of the ball and caught it as a reaction rather than intentionally. He should have passed to Mulcahy on his first goal too though. Still if he performs like that again I won't quibble if he misses a pass.



    Agree.

    We have to keep Hannon at 11 now surely, so hopefully Dodge comes back in on the wing. He's a better man to work back than Hannon anyway so hopefully he and Breen can work back a lot and provide some cover for our half backs.

    Downes playing great, just shooting off balance needs to settle and he'll be MOTM the next day.

    Your right on breen, he stepped left and the ball was too close so he caught when he couldnt strike, still mulcahy was unmarked if he looked up he'd have seen him and could have tapped the ball across to him for an easy goal, its getting serious now, some criticism might seem petty but they'll all count for the next 2 games

    Yeah Hannon 11, dodge 10 (would be Ryan 7 for me but TJ will go same again)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,036 ✭✭✭slegs


    Does anyone know if you can pick your seat location i.e. block and row on the SuperValu ticket interface or is it the same as tickets.ie where you can only pick the stand and the block is whatever they are selling at that time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    slegs wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can pick your seat location i.e. block and row on the SuperValu ticket interface or is it the same as tickets.ie where you can only pick the stand and the block is whatever they are selling at that time?

    No you can't pick the seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    One thing in relation to O'Grady/TJ... O'Grady did great work with us in 2011, he got us set after a disastrous year. But I don't think he should have come back in the 1st place, I'm not sure he ever wanted it, and he's perhaps a bit too stubborn with regard to his style of play. Limerick have some players suited to playing how he wanted, but others need more direct ball. It may have come good, it mightn't have, but so far TJ does seem to be playing a nice mix of styles that suits us. I would have liked an experienced coach to come into to join the group, but they seem to be doing fairly well... just being a bit quicker on the sideline would be my main complaint. But we're doing better than I'd have thought after Galway hammered us in the league, we were awful that day.


    Im going to totally disagree with you on the half backs. We lost v cork because of them, and in the first 20 yesterday when the game was on they were well beaten (GOM being very poor again). It'll be a shame to leave an all ireland behind us because of something that is so obvious. Every other line on the field is good enough to beat Kilkenny, this line are currently underperforming and unless there's a massive turnaround in form we wont hold reid and walsh.

    I didn't think they were great against Wexford, but I thought they were much better than the previous 2 days.

    I'd still swap the 2 of them for Hickey & Tom Ryan, but I can't see that happening after he didn't make the changes after the Munster final. The talk of Hannon switching back there, or possibly even Breen didn't happen either... I just don't think he trusts others there yet. It could be costly alright.

    Downes playing great, just shooting off balance needs to settle and he'll be MOTM the next day.

    Your right on breen, he stepped left and the ball was too close so he caught when he couldnt strike, still mulcahy was unmarked if he looked up he'd have seen him and could have tapped the ball across to him for an easy goal, its getting serious now, some criticism might seem petty but they'll all count for the next 2 games

    Yeah Hannon 11, dodge 10 (would be Ryan 7 for me but TJ will go same again)

    Agreed on Hannon centre-forward, Dodge & Breen wing-forwards for now. But if Downes holds his place, he cannot afford to be as wayward again... you can't miss easy chances like those.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    Originally Posted by paddy no 11 View Post

    Im going to totally disagree with you on the half backs. We lost v cork because of them, and in the first 20 yesterday when the game was on they were well beaten (GOM being very poor again). It'll be a shame to leave an all ireland behind us because of something that is so obvious. Every other line on the field is good enough to beat Kilkenny, this line are currently underperforming and unless there's a massive turnaround in form we wont hold reid and walsh.

    That is some statement if true, and if true we will lose by even more than Wexford did. Could happen I suppose, I doubt it but it could happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Originally Posted by paddy no 11 View Post

    Im going to totally disagree with you on the half backs. We lost v cork because of them, and in the first 20 yesterday when the game was on they were well beaten (GOM being very poor again). It'll be a shame to leave an all ireland behind us because of something that is so obvious. Every other line on the field is good enough to beat Kilkenny, this line are currently underperforming and unless there's a massive turnaround in form we wont hold reid and walsh.

    That is some statement if true, and if true we will lose by even more than Wexford did. Could happen I suppose, I doubt it but it could happen.

    I said good enough not will.

    There good enough, some will win, some gain parity, some lose. Overall im confident we'll give ye a very good game. Id predict a narrow win for us if i had confidence in our half backs. No need to be so excitable and look for stuff thats not there


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    I said good enough not will.

    There good enough, some will win, some gain parity, some lose. Overall im confident we'll give ye a very good game. Id predict a narrow win for us if i had confidence in our half backs. No need to be so excitable and look for stuff thats not there

    I have no doubt you can win this game. I have no doubt we will have to win more than 50% of the battles which will be a tall order and I have no doubts that if picked our half backs i.e Holden, Hogan and Buckley will have to perform to the very highest level just as your half backs will have to do as well. I have great faith in Ritchie Hogan but don't know enough about our man Fogarty in the middle but if he can break even then we should shade the midfield. Forget about running our full back line off the field, teams have been trying that for over ten years, few if any have ever succeeded. Pace, pace will be there in abundance from Kilkenny especially in the forwards. There are few faster than Colin Fennelly, Walter Walsh, John or Ritchie Power, Aidan Fogarty and Padraigh Walsh. Henry and Larkin are slowing up a bit alright but they can still do damage. No I am afraid that neither team is capable of winning 4 of the 5 outfield lines no matter how well they play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭LMK


    I think this is a fascinating match.
    The Limerick team and setup are almost serene this year, there is no sense of panic whatever the situation, it's like as if any historical baggage has evaporated. I suspect John Allen may have influenced that, but whatever it is its liberated them and they are competing as well as I've seen a Limerick team compete.
    Kilkenny have ruled at the top for so long without ever becoming complacent.
    For the first time I wouldn't be apprehensive (for the Limerick team) facing them for the reason outlined above, In the c'ship to date I feel we have an edge in overall teamwork insofar as the load is more evenly distributed whereas with KK it seems as if 3 or 4 players have had to produce 5 star displays to compensate for others that have been below par. Of course that can still be enough at the end of the match but I'd prefer to get a 15 man performance from our men again and see where we wind up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 treklane


    hello boys and girls.delighted with the win and i now think we have some chance to skin the cats. the intensity of our lads when we did not have the ball was deadly,we will need more against codys crowd but we have the tools,
    on the team well they did us proud,gom has came in for stick and i hope his game picks up we need him at his best.
    tj is doin a fine job and i know we will skin the cats limerick by 4
    lumineach abu


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    At least our 21s didn't get embarrassed to the same degree against Clare as Cork did. Clare were slightly better today, but we were a bit tighter defensively in the first half. Still doesn't excuse our performance, I don't think, I think that team had some good players, some who will go on to play senior.


    I do think it's disappointing that our U-21 team from 2011, which had a lot of very young players for the grade, didn't do more at that level. It has produced a good few senior players alright- Hannon, Mulcahy, Dowling, Downes, Dempsey, Allis, etc. but most of those were underage again the following year.

    Let's hope the minor teams of the last 2 years can do more up along the grades.


  • Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭mickaleen


    I would imagine Limerick will line out v KK with one change. O'Grady in for T Ryan. I think O'Grady should come in but I would have T Ryan play at 5 or 7. Take your pick as both have been poor in the past two matches. 7 in my view being the more obvious one. Conceded alot of possession v Wexford, one which cost us a goal. Also I think Condon is a liability in the corner. Up front Downes needs to find his radar again. If he does Limerick will have a very good forward unit. He hit 4 very poor wides the last day and two terrible wides v Cork. Anyway, apart from all that, Limerick are going to be a massive challenge for KK. Limerick by 2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭flutered


    if they wast the amount of chanches as they have in the last two games, then its all over against kk, no teaam can afford that many wides when they reach the buisness end of a compition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭Browney7


    mickaleen wrote: »
    I would imagine Limerick will line out v KK with one change. O'Grady in for T Ryan. I think O'Grady should come in but I would have T Ryan play at 5 or 7. Take your pick as both have been poor in the past two matches. 7 in my view being the more obvious one. Conceded alot of possession v Wexford, one which cost us a goal. Also I think Condon is a liability in the corner. Up front Downes needs to find his radar again. If he does Limerick will have a very good forward unit. He hit 4 very poor wides the last day and two terrible wides v Cork. Anyway, apart from all that, Limerick are going to be a massive challenge for KK. Limerick by 2.

    Couldn't agree on condon being a liability. Cadogan got great supply against him and was very little he could do. I think he's a very good corner back that can play a bit of ball


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    mickaleen wrote: »
    I would imagine Limerick will line out v KK with one change. O'Grady in for T Ryan. I think O'Grady should come in but I would have T Ryan play at 5 or 7. Take your pick as both have been poor in the past two matches. 7 in my view being the more obvious one. Conceded alot of possession v Wexford, one which cost us a goal. Also I think Condon is a liability in the corner. Up front Downes needs to find his radar again. If he does Limerick will have a very good forward unit. He hit 4 very poor wides the last day and two terrible wides v Cork. Anyway, apart from all that, Limerick are going to be a massive challenge for KK. Limerick by 2.

    Agree on Tom Ryan, for sure, although I think Paudie was more at fault for the goal... whatever about the concession of possession, he should have cut it out. Ideally, we'd replace both imo- Hickey & Ryan coming in.

    Would disagree about Condon... a liability? He's our best corner-back imo, got a tough time off Cadogan but he's better than Walsh, Carmody, King.

    Obviously Downes needs to find his radar, his shooting the last day was woeful.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    Just a question. As some have said here TJ Reid has become Kilkenny's main man. It is probably a good thing that as far as I can see there is no one Limerick main man but if there is who would you consider to be that player. If TJ were to be injured before the game Kilkenny's price would drop like a stone so who would it be for Limerick. It need not necessarily be a forward. Don' worry about giving away secrets, Brian Cody does not read this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Just a question. As some have said here TJ Reid has become Kilkenny's main man. It is probably a good thing that as far as I can see there is no one Limerick main man but if there is who would you consider to be that player. If TJ were to be injured before the game Kilkenny's price would drop like a stone so who would it be for Limerick. It need not necessarily be a forward. Don' worry about giving away secrets, Brian Cody does not read this thread.

    Shane Dowling undoubtedly. He has been given his first proper run in the side since 2012, and he has prospered greatly. Himself, Moran & Downes came off the bench last year to great effect but having him in the starting XV this year is a no brainer. His fitness alone has benefitted greatly from getting more time on the pitch. Very good at fielding high ball (he caught nearly every ball sent into him against Shane O'Neill in Munster Final), he's quite bulky and difficult to mark. He always shows well for the ball, good positional sense (his first goal against Wexford was a good example) and deadly from placed balls. He's also probably the only one of our forwards, along with Mulcahy who doesn't try to shoot from silly angles, he'll nearly always try to pick out a better placed team mate. After Dowling, I think its McCarthy, Ryan and Browne who are of most importance to the team.

    You saw what not having a consistent free-taker did to us in last year's semi loss to Clare. Hannon missed his first 4 attempts and panic spread through the side. Clare sensed blood and duly took over. Dowling will ping them over from nearly anywhere. And any frees close to goal, you can expect him to go for the jugular, he has a rocket of a shot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭mickaleen


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Agree on Tom Ryan, for sure, although I think Paudie was more at fault for the goal... whatever about the concession of possession, he should have cut it out. Ideally, we'd replace both imo- Hickey & Ryan coming in.

    Would disagree about Condon... a liability? He's our best corner-back imo, got a tough time off Cadogan but he's better than Walsh, Carmody, King.

    Obviously Downes needs to find his radar, his shooting the last day was woeful.
    He did get a tough time off Cadogan but also against Wexford he was reckless on a number of occassions diving in to the tackle like an under 12. Luckily Wexford were so poor he got away with it. He needs to cut out that tendency to go too soon coz he doesn't have the pace to recover.

    I would leave Hickey at 2 or 4 as bringing him out to 5 or 7 weakens the full back line considerably.

    To the other poster who says Dowling is Limericks main man, to a certain extent I'd agree but for me its Wayne MacNamara. Why? I thought he was immense v Tipp and in the match v Cork he did a trojan amount of work trying to cover both wing backs, the same the last day v Wexford. He mightn't be your natural 6 but what he lacks in abililty/skill he certainly makes up for with grit, heart and determination. If he is having a good day then Dowling gets plenty of ball. Just my opinion. I'm sure if you asked another 5 lads they'd prob name a different player each.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    I hear Kilkenny are flying it in training.


  • Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭LMK


    Just a question. As some have said here TJ Reid has become Kilkenny's main man. It is probably a good thing that as far as I can see there is no one Limerick main man but if there is who would you consider to be that player.
    Limerick have been performing as a unit so no main man as such (agreed Dowling has been a key man) if I was to pick out one player that can't be beaten or else it means big trouble I'd go for Wayne Mac, he's been a bulwark for us this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    mickaleen wrote: »
    He did get a tough time off Cadogan but also against Wexford he was reckless on a number of occassions diving in to the tackle like an under 12. Luckily Wexford were so poor he got away with it. He needs to cut out that tendency to go too soon coz he doesn't have the pace to recover.

    I would leave Hickey at 2 or 4 as bringing him out to 5 or 7 weakens the full back line considerably.

    To the other poster who says Dowling is Limericks main man, to a certain extent I'd agree but for me its Wayne MacNamara. Why? I thought he was immense v Tipp and in the match v Cork he did a trojan amount of work trying to cover both wing backs, the same the last day v Wexford. He mightn't be your natural 6 but what he lacks in abililty/skill he certainly makes up for with grit, heart and determination. If he is having a good day then Dowling gets plenty of ball. Just my opinion. I'm sure if you asked another 5 lads they'd prob name a different player each.
    I won't disagree with you about Wayne Mac. He is the glue that is holding the half back line together at the moment. Bonner Maher got the better of him in Tipp game but he was very good in both Munster Final & Wexford game. He's cut out these silly solo runs down blind alleys that he was doing last year and is just letting the ball do the work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Good to see ye back posting here grenache.

    I agree Condon hasnt been at his best lately but he's been pulled out the field he's clearly more comfortable in the full back line. Needs to be more disciplined when he moves out cant be lunging in as someone else said.

    Have to make at least one switch at half back. No room for emotions from here on, if a fella is off form he has to be replaced.

    Agree wayne mac gives it 100%, but there's still some poor positional play.

    Richie is our TJ reid equivalent no doubt, see the clusterfcuk that was our defence when he went off. Dowling, mulcahy, Jimbob and Hickey in that order are next imo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭chases0102


    Random request folks!!

    On a stag next weekend, and we were thinking of dressing up the groom as an old-school Limerick hurling supporter (think the scene in the D'Unbelievables!) and looking for a retro, old-school Limerick jersey.

    Does anyone know where we could source this?!

    Stag is in Kilkenny next weekend...so very apt!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    Just a question. As some have said here TJ Reid has become Kilkenny's main man. It is probably a good thing that as far as I can see there is no one Limerick main man but if there is who would you consider to be that player. If TJ were to be injured before the game Kilkenny's price would drop like a stone so who would it be for Limerick. It need not necessarily be a forward. Don' worry about giving away secrets, Brian Cody does not read this thread.

    I think TJ Reid has become Kilkenny's main forward, but I'm still more worried about trying to limit Richie Hogan, and think that if we can somehow keep him quiet, we'll have an excellent chance of winning.


    Dowling is so important to us as grenache said... he's scored 3-6 from play in 3 games and is knocking over the frees. It's very unlikely he'll miss handy ones like Hannon did last year. We've found how to utilise him correctly and he's making things difficult for backs.


    But I think our midfield duo of Jim-Bob/Browne are most important to how we currently play, top class.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭savannahkat


    Funnily enough I am one of the many but not the majority of Kilkenny supporters who would prefer to see Hogan at corner forward. We had to play him midfield in the absence of Mick Fennely who by all accounts is fit though maybe not match fit. I hear what you say about Dowling and would not disagree. I do think Breen is an exciting player when on form. We were kind of rough on Hickey when he was a young lad but look at him now he took his lesson and learned from it. I admire that guy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    grenache wrote: »
    He's also probably the only one of our forwards, along with Mulcahy who doesn't try to shoot from silly angles, he'll nearly always try to pick out a better placed team mate.

    Mulcahy is a lovely hurler who doesn't get near enough credit and like you say he is also a clever hurler. His work rate is immense and he picks up a huge amount of breaking ball. I was watching back the 2012 Qtr final vs KK recently and Mulcahy was a real live wire whose pace caused a lot of problems for the Kilkenny defense.

    Breen is another player who blows hot and cold but when he's on form he is a big asset. I think to beat KK Limerick will have to score goals and Mulcahy and Breen will be key to achieving that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    I do think it's probably harsh to single out some players over others, as they are working well as a unit.


    If you took McCarthy out of the team, we'd be a lot weaker, because he is our only proper full-back. If you took Hickey out, we'd be weaker. If you took either Jim-Bob or Browne out, we'd definitely be weaker. And the same for Dowling, Mulcahy and Breen.

    I wouldn't have said Breen is an "exciting hurler", he's probably not as naturally talented as the other forwards we have. But he's a big strong unit and he works very very hard... very hard to stop when he gets running at a defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    I hear Kilkenny are flying it in training.

    Are we surprised...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    chases0102 wrote: »
    Random request folks!!

    On a stag next weekend, and we were thinking of dressing up the groom as an old-school Limerick hurling supporter (think the scene in the D'Unbelievables!) and looking for a retro, old-school Limerick jersey.

    Does anyone know where we could source this?!

    Stag is in Kilkenny next weekend...so very apt!!
    The good sport shops in Limerick will do them - Limerick Sports Store on William St should have them, they stock all the Limerick GAA Supporters Club gear. Maybe Gleeson Sports Scene further down the same street too.

    I know Finn's Sports Corner on Grand Parade in Cork also does the retro jersies of most counties.


  • Registered Users Posts: 429 ✭✭BarcodeMuncher


    Anyone know where tickets for the hill would be available?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,553 ✭✭✭✭Copper_pipe


    Anyone know where tickets for the hill would be available?

    Tickets.ie
    Or any centra or super value store


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,264 ✭✭✭✭Fireball07


    grenache wrote: »
    The good sport shops in Limerick will do them - Limerick Sports Store on William St should have them, they stock all the Limerick GAA Supporters Club gear. Maybe Gleeson Sports Scene further down the same street too.

    I know Finn's Sports Corner on Grand Parade in Cork also does the retro jersies of most counties.

    Do those shops do jerseys from a few years back?


    I lost my Moran's Hotel jersey from when the footballers were at their peak, the only I have is the shiny 2007 jersey which isn't great tbh. And I don't like the current jersey tbqh... although last year's was nice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 842 ✭✭✭cabledude


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Do those shops do jerseys from a few years back?


    I lost my Moran's Hotel jersey from when the footballers were at their peak, the only I have is the shiny 2007 jersey which isn't great tbh. And I don't like the current jersey tbqh... although last year's was nice.
    Gotta love Ebay..


    http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Vintage-Shirt-Limerick-GAA-XL-44-ONeills-Gaelic-Luimneach-Jersey-/201138444085?pt=UK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item2ed4c91735


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Fireball07 wrote: »
    Do those shops do jerseys from a few years back?


    I lost my Moran's Hotel jersey from when the footballers were at their peak, the only I have is the shiny 2007 jersey which isn't great tbh. And I don't like the current jersey tbqh... although last year's was nice.
    No, they don't. They do an identikit retro one based on the 1973 jersey.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 shoulder


    We must be prepared for the filth kk are going to throw at us. We saw what they are capable of last time in 07 when three of their players should have been red carded in the first half, one of the offenders should have gotten a red card two times. WE must keep our cool and not retaliate. We can beat these codgers with our hurling. No standing still. Our fitness passion and skill will get us the win.

    C,mon Limerick!!


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