*Limerick GAA news/discussion thread*

paddy no 11

Well done Na P, good end to the season for limerick.

Grats

I predicted a cracker - how wrong was that! On the credit side I predicted a win for Na Pairsaigh. I concluded that NP would do it having watched the Bridge's performance against a poorMidleton team. The style that brought Clare success this year was polls apart from that of the Bridge. They were always going to struggle against a handy NP team. Mind you I did think the ground conditions at this time of year might benefit the Bridge. Can't imagine the beating they might get playing in better ground conditions.

So it's Na Piarsaigh v Portumna. Having no competitive action could affect Portumna. Then again NP would have had to peak for every game in Munster and just might find it difficult to reach that peak again after a long lay off. If they were to meet in 2 weeks time I'd go for NP.

glasagusban

SUPERBLUES! :cool:

Grats wrote: »

So it's Na Piarsaigh v Portumna. Having no competitive action could affect Portumna. Then again NP would have had to peak for every game in Munster and just might find it difficult to reach that peak again after a long lay off. If they were to meet in 2 weeks time I'd go for NP.

I would say they peaked this game, they were pushed hard but never played to their best in their last 3 games. Good to play below par and still win though.

thinkstoomuch1

Just watched the game their,had recorded.Downes was superb,i thought.He has it all.
Delighted ye won,clare cant win everything.Thats a super win,and in ennis no easy place to win,but to do so so convincgly is great morale boost for limerick hurling thats had a mixed few weeks.
The bridge were sliglty favourites,it helps limerick teams that their not overhyped.

Why is stack never asked to coach a limerick u21 or intermediate team.He would be better than who is their now.A very down to earth manager.Makes noise for the right reasons.

Fireball07

Fantastic result for Na Piarsaigh... I predicted a victory in a very tight game, didn't think there was much between them. But they blew them away.


They do have some serious talent- Downes, Dowling, Gleeson, all the Breens, Dempsey, etc.... and on paper, are up there with the best clubs in the country. Now that doesn't always turn into performances but you'd think they've learned from 2011 and they're a stronger side now and can realistically target an All-Ireland.



However, I read that the game against Portumna is on the same weekend as the Cork league game? And considering there's no league final, we pretty much have to win that game if we want promotion.....

I do think we can beat Cork, but without Breen, Downes, Dowling, Dempsey...we won't be as good as we can be. Downes is one of the form players in the country atm, any team would be weakened without their best forward.

thinkstoomuch1

premierstone wrote: »

My bad yes it was 1999, in 2000 they were beaten by Offaly, a game I'm sure if Tom Ryan or say John Allen were at the helm for I'm sure there would be blue murder.

Like you say though JBM is a true gael and someone I have an incredible amount of time for, the game could do with a few more of him at all levels tbh.

No problem with Allen,i just don't believe the hype,and raised valid points in relation to the team he picked and hes management decisions in the past in Big games.

Downes again got a vital goal today.
And im not the only one,Sean stack in the paper tommorrow questioned allen in hes ommission of king ,and didnt hold back with he's views.

Not everyone ,believes media hype ,and overblown status that the papers make managers out to be and afraid to criticise them.Sean stack clearly doesnt and must be the first hurling man to question allen.

Its unfortunately the same in tippeary ,they will find out the same with macgeeney.A paper last week gave a profile of how he could be the messiah,the magic that brings tipp back to the top.I actually rate eammon o shea but when I heard,he had brought him in,i began to wonder.

Gary ryan seems a great addition ,the way the game is about speed,but to have macgeeney as part of the team is baffling.Done good to a degree,with kildare,but greatly overhyped.And I would say he will hardly come cheap either.

thinkstoomuch1

Fireball07 wrote: »

Fantastic result for Na Piarsaigh... I predicted a victory in a very tight game, didn't think there was much between them. But they blew them away.


They do have some serious talent- Downes, Dowling, Gleeson, all the Breens, Dempsey, etc.... and on paper, are up there with the best clubs in the country. Now that doesn't always turn into performances but you'd think they've learned from 2011 and they're a stronger side now and can realistically target an All-Ireland.



However, I read that the game against Portumna is on the same weekend as the Cork league game? And considering there's no league final, we pretty much have to win that game if we want promotion.....

I do think we can beat Cork, but without Breen, Downes, Dowling, Dempsey...we won't be as good as we can be. Downes is one of the form players in the country atm, any team would be weakened without their best forward.

Is it just one team gets promoted so?

Fireball07

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Is it just one team gets promoted so?

So I'm led to believe. Now I could be wrong, but that's what I gathered.

zetecescort

Yeah, top team gets promoted yet the fourth placed team gets into a 1/4 final and possibly win the league outright! Farcical.

glasagusban

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Just watched the game their,had recorded.Downes was superb,i thought.He has it all.
Delighted ye won,clare cant win everything.Thats a super win,and in ennis no easy place to win,but to do so so convincgly is great morale boost for limerick hurling thats had a mixed few weeks.
The bridge were sliglty favourites,it helps limerick teams that their not overhyped.

Why is stack never asked to coach a limerick u21 or intermediate team.He would be better than who is their now.A very down to earth manager.Makes noise for the right reasons.

Stack managed the 21s two years ago, they didn't go too well. Ollie Moran was a selector.

glasagusban

Fireball07 wrote: »

Fantastic result for Na Piarsaigh... I predicted a victory in a very tight game, didn't think there was much between them. But they blew them away.


They do have some serious talent- Downes, Dowling, Gleeson, all the Breens, Dempsey, etc.... and on paper, are up there with the best clubs in the country. Now that doesn't always turn into performances but you'd think they've learned from 2011 and they're a stronger side now and can realistically target an All-Ireland.



However, I read that the game against Portumna is on the same weekend as the Cork league game? And considering there's no league final, we pretty much have to win that game if we want promotion.....

I do think we can beat Cork, but without Breen, Downes, Dowling, Dempsey...we won't be as good as we can be. Downes is one of the form players in the country atm, any team would be weakened without their best forward.

I hope we can win promotion without the Na P lads.

On Na P, looking through the team I think all bar two of them have played county at some level. They're also a very young team, two starting minors, a few under 21s and most of the rest in early to mid 20s. Great for limerick panels in te future that a lot of these young players getting some very big game exposure now. Sheppard who came in and scored the last goal is another young player with skill to burn and a big guy, hopefully continues his development. Adrian Breen improving all the time. Ronan lynch to join them next year too.

thinkstoomuch1

glasagusban wrote: »

Stack managed the 21s two years ago, they didn't go too well. Ollie Moran was a selector.

I thought the manager two years ago was fitzgearld,o connor before that.was stack involved ?i dont think he was

If im wrong fair enough.

glasagusban

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I thought the manager two years ago was fitzgearld,o connor before that.was stack involved ?i dont think he was

If im wrong fair enough.

Maybe someone can settle it for us?

mickmackey1

O'Connor was appointed manager in March 2009 and was in charge when they won that epic Munster final v Cork in 2011, then replaced by Fitzgerald in October '11. His selectors that year were Pat Donnelly and Pat Davern. Don't know if Stack was involved at any stage.

glasagusban

Minor manager, my mistake.

thinkstoomuch1

glasagusban wrote: »

Minor manager, my mistake.

Can u be specfic please?when was he and manager or selector exactly? as theres a huge difference.

I thought shane fitzgibbon was the minor manager for 11 and 12.

premierstone

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Bizzarre that some see fit to question JBM's credentials.

Nobody was questioning his credentials, just highlighting the fact that it was both inappropriate and irrelevant to complre his AI final record to Tom Ryans.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Its unfortunately the same in tippeary ,they will find out the same with macgeeney.A paper last week gave a profile of how he could be the messiah,the magic that brings tipp back to the top.I actually rate eammon o shea but when I heard,he had brought him in,i began to wonder.

Gary ryan seems a great addition ,the way the game is about speed,but to have macgeeney as part of the team is baffling.Done good to a degree,with kildare,but greatly overhyped.And I would say he will hardly come cheap either.

Don't believe everything you read, McGeaney's role with Tipp is absolutly minimal, he will take 10 one hour sessions with the panel over the course of the entire year, the media have attempted to make a story out of absolutely nothing, Dublin footballers had Bernard Dunne in the exact same role last year and nothing was made of it nor did it do them any harm, and I know who I would prefer in my corner, if you pardon the pun.

thinkstoomuch1

premierstone wrote: »

Nobody was questioning his credentials, just highlighting the fact that it was both inappropriate and irrelevant to complre his AI final record to Tom Ryans.



Don't believe everything you read, McGeaney's role with Tipp is absolutly minimal, he will take 10 one hour sessions with the panel over the course of the entire year, the media have attempted to make a story out of absolutely nothing, Dublin footballers had Bernard Dunne in the exact same role last year and nothing was made of it nor did it do them any harm, and I know who I would prefer in my corner, if you pardon the pun.

If it is that small an input ,it makes no sense,why the want him involved at all and hes expenses arent cheap id imagine travelling from armagh.

Tippeary county board I thought were trying to save money,their is far better cheaper people they could have got.

thinkstoomuch1

premierstone wrote: »

Nobody was questioning his credentials, just highlighting the fact that it was both inappropriate and irrelevant to complre his AI final record to Tom Ryans.



Don't believe everything you read, McGeaney's role with Tipp is absolutly minimal, he will take 10 one hour sessions with the panel over the course of the entire year, the media have attempted to make a story out of absolutely nothing, Dublin footballers had Bernard Dunne in the exact same role last year and nothing was made of it nor did it do them any harm, and I know who I would prefer in my corner, if you pardon the pun.

And I do agree with you their,id prefer to have a world champion like bernard dunne in my corner too if I had the chance.

premierstone

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

If it is that small an input ,it makes no sense,why the want him involved at all and hes expenses arent cheap id imagine travelling from armagh.

Tippeary county board I thought were trying to save money,their is far better cheaper people they could have got.

McGeaney lives in Dublin, less than an hour and a half down the motorway, a journey a few of our players will be making far more frequently.

Cheaper? Caroline Currid performed the exact same role in 2010 but is unavailable, and I have been informed that McGeaney is not as expensive, besides I don't think saving a few € is Tipps main priority right now.

premierstone

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

And I do agree with you their,id prefer to have a world champion like bernard dunne in my corner too if I had the chance.

lol says it all really that you would consider what Bernard Dunne achieved as more than McGeaney - not that its relevant of course Dunne wasn't training Dublin in boxing, and I'm fairly sure EOS has no plans for Tipp to play football.

Fireball07

glasagusban wrote: »

I hope we can win promotion without the Na P lads.

On Na P, looking through the team I think all bar two of them have played county at some level. They're also a very young team, two starting minors, a few under 21s and most of the rest in early to mid 20s. Great for limerick panels in te future that a lot of these young players getting some very big game exposure now. Sheppard who came in and scored the last goal is another young player with skill to burn and a big guy, hopefully continues his development. Adrian Breen improving all the time. Ronan lynch to join them next year too.

What is the reason for Ronan Lynch not being involved? Just because of his age? Dempsey and Casey both impressing a lot.


I rate Adrian Breen quite a bit, he has a lot of pace and an eye for goal... was good in a league game against Wexford too. Didn't impress for the 21s this year, but I think he could make it at senior intercounty level if he's able to win his own ball against top corner-backs.

glasagusban

Fireball07 wrote: »

What is the reason for Ronan Lynch not being involved? Just because of his age? Dempsey and Casey both impressing a lot.


I rate Adrian Breen quite a bit, he has a lot of pace and an eye for goal... was good in a league game against Wexford too. Didn't impress for the 21s this year, but I think he could make it at senior intercounty level if he's able to win his own ball against top corner-backs.

Leaving cert and all that I suppose. He's more than capable. Imagine he'll be on the Limerick panel in a year, let alone the club team.

Apparently I'm all over the place on Stacks involvement with a limerick underage team which I thought was with Ollie Moran as selector, was Stack only selector at some point or am I just hallucinating at this point?

Fireball07

glasagusban wrote: »

Leaving cert and all that I suppose. He's more than capable. Imagine he'll be on the Limerick panel in a year, let alone the club team.

Apparently I'm all over the place on Stacks involvement with a limerick underage team which I thought was with Ollie Moran as selector, was Stack only selector at some point or am I just hallucinating at this point?

Do you really?

I think he's very talented, but I think TJ and O'Grady will be reluctant to throw someone who is still minor into the senior panel. He'll feature with the U-21s alright. Could be our long-term solution to the centre-back problem we've had since Geary retired/declined.


I don't remember being Stack involved personally, so I don't know.

glasagusban

Fireball07 wrote: »

Do you really?

I think he's very talented, but I think TJ and O'Grady will be reluctant to throw someone who is still minor into the senior panel. He'll feature with the U-21s alright. Could be our long-term solution to the centre-back problem we've had since Geary retired/declined.

To clarify, by in a year I mean 2014, the season after the this one coming. He'll probably be in first year of college by then and more than ready for senior.

Fireball07

Oh right, I agree then. Like Dowling and Hannon, he's definitely talented enough. When Cian Lynch is out of minor, I expect him to be in the team too.

mickmackey1

glasagusban wrote: »

To clarify, by in a year I mean 2014, the season after the this one coming.

So that's 2015 then...:pac:

thinkstoomuch1

glasagusban wrote: »

Leaving cert and all that I suppose. He's more than capable. Imagine he'll be on the Limerick panel in a year, let alone the club team.

Apparently I'm all over the place on Stacks involvement with a limerick underage team which I thought was with Ollie Moran as selector, was Stack only selector at some point or am I just hallucinating at this point?

Stack was never a manager of intermediate,senior,minor or u21 side in limerick not even with the camoige set up.

If he was involved in any role it was a minor part at even that.Sean stack,unlike some managers is the type of fella that you wouldnt forget in a hurry if he was your intercounty manager as chances are he would win things.


Back to the orignal point that your answer was in realtion to ,Stack has such a proven record with na piarsaigh he was well entilted to ask questions of previous limerick manager ,and it shows that someone from outside the county had to ask them,no one inside the county did.

glasagusban

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Stack was never a manager of intermediate,senior,minor or u21 side in limerick not even with the camoige set up.

mickmackey1 wrote: »

So that's 2015 then...:pac:

Not having a good day here

Fireball07

glasagusban wrote: »

Not having a good day here

Celebrating a Munster title will do that to ya :P