*Limerick GAA news/discussion thread*

dzilla

Is Tj Ryan involved?

Oh also congratulations to Limerick's one all star McCarthy. Great return on a fantastic year

rebel girl 15

Its TJ and Donal O Grady according to an exclusive in a certain paper!

windy shepard henderson

o grady and ryan i hear? its in one of the morning papers already, but with the way this story has changed over the weeks anything could happain

dzilla

Would like to see TJ moulded into a good manager under the new mangers guidance. He would be a great influence for the younger stars

Grats

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Its TJ and Donal O Grady according to an exclusive in a certain paper!

Presume Ger Cunningham will be involved too.

rebel girl 15

dzilla and Quixoticelixer, stop the on thread bickering, if you have a problem with a post, report it

Fireball07

Examiner reporting TJ and O'Grady.....


I know that a few papers have reported it as good as done, but now that we know that it definitely is done, you'd have to think they had a source somewhere.


With Ger Cunningham's resignation being announced last night, I really thought it was him.

windy shepard henderson

Grats wrote: »

Presume Ger Cunningham will be involved too.

i dont think he is involved at all, mark lions is coach i think

rebel girl 15

mickmackey1 wrote: »

At least TJ has put himself up there to be shot at, what has Cusack ever done in a coaching sense? I don't think we should be a testing ground for a total novice, we should be aiming higher than that. We are the Munster champions after all, we deserve someone who's already shown what they can do at a lower level.

Cusack with Cloyne, last six or 7 years has been doing the coaching afaik

Fireball07 wrote: »

Examiner reporting TJ and O'Grady.....


I know that a few papers have reported it as good as done, but now that we know that it definitely is done, you'd have to think they had a source somewhere.


With Ger Cunningham's resignation being announced last night, I really thought it was him.

Cunningham's being cited as giving work commitments as his reason for stepping down - but he may could be involved in some way. Journo I spoke to said there was more detail to be revealed

windy shepard henderson

Fireball07 wrote: »

Examiner reporting TJ and O'Grady.....


I know that a few papers have reported it as good as done, but now that we know that it definitely is done, you'd have to think they had a source somewhere.


With Ger Cunningham's resignation being announced last night, I really thought it was him.

agreed i was 100% sure it was cunningham, it seems like a step backwards going for a joint manager system, while it has worked out for the clare u21's it rarely works out at inter county level , still no matter who is in charge it should'nt hamper limericks chances of building on this year

Fireball07

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Cunningham's being cited as giving work commitments as his reason for stepping down - but he may could be involved in some way. Journo I spoke to said there was more detail to be revealed

I thought someone said he had retired?

thinkstoomuch1

Maybee o grady manager,cunnigham coach,tj as selector with two others?

rebel girl 15

Fireball07 wrote: »

I thought someone said he had retired?

He resigned from Cork

windy shepard henderson

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Maybee o grady manager,cunnigham coach,tj as selector with two others?

what appears to be the story at the moment is o grady and tj joint managers , mark lyons coach and joe hannon make it up at the moment

thinkstoomuch1

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

what appears to be the story at the moment is o grady and tj joint managers , mark lyons coach and joe hannon make it up at the moment

Who are the other two jesus dont know them at all.

Considine gone from kilmallock i hear?

Quixoticelixer

Cunningham please, O'Grady did fine in 2011, steadied the ship after a turbulent previous year with Justin and laid a bit of a foundation, but that handpassing game doesn't really suit us, didn't work v Dublin in 2011, and it wouldn't be very effective against Clare's style of play.

I can't imagine Cunningham would have resigned from Cork unless he was offered the managerial position, why would he move from Cork to Limerick to take up exactly the same position? Unless his resignation is just one massive coincidence?

windy shepard henderson

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Who are the other two jesus dont know them at all.

Considine gone from kilmallock i hear?

i think they were in the backround all along i am not sure,
i would'nt be happy with a joint manager set up at all, they nearly always finish badly, i am sure there will be alot of limerick people not happy about this at all considering they were looking forward to the idea of cunningham or the outside chance of donal og cusack

Fireball07

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Maybee o grady manager,cunnigham coach,tj as selector with two others?

DOG + TJ, with Lyons & Hannon is what is being reported. There would be maybe room for somebody else there...like Cunningham? Hopefully.

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

He resigned from Cork

That's not what I meant, I thought someone said that he had retired from work......and so was free to manage who he liked?

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Who are the other two jesus dont know them at all.

Considine gone from kilmallock i hear?

Lyons was fitness coach this year under Allen iirc.

And Joe Hannon is Declan's father, was liason officer this year too, I think.

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Cunningham please, O'Grady did fine in 2011, steadied the ship after a turbulent previous year with Justin and laid a bit of a foundation, but that handpassing game doesn't really suit us, didn't work v Dublin in 2011, and it wouldn't be very effective against Clare's style of play.

I can't imagine Cunningham would have resigned from Cork unless he was offered the managerial position, why would he move from Cork to Limerick to take up exactly the same position? Unless his resignation is just one massive coincidence?

It would be a coincidence. And with all the people saying that Considine was taking over...... if he is gone too, that's just another one.

I actually think the handpassing game could work against Clare. You need to run at them, a short game could expose them.


But a mix, and an ability to adapt is what we need, surely? Sometimes we play better when we can release the ball quick into the likes of Downes, Mulcahy, Tobin...but if they're being marked out of the game, running from deep through Hannon, Dowling, Browne, O'Brien, etc can carve teams open.

windy shepard henderson

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Cunningham please, O'Grady did fine in 2011, steadied the ship after a turbulent previous year with Justin and laid a bit of a foundation, but that handpassing game doesn't really suit us, didn't work v Dublin in 2011, and it wouldn't be very effective against Clare's style of play.

I can't imagine Cunningham would have resigned from Cork unless he was offered the managerial position, why would he move from Cork to Limerick to take up exactly the same position? Unless his resignation is just one massive coincidence?

would it have been possable that he had been offered the job but turned it down because the backroom team was allready set in stone

i taught o grady turned down the job weeks ago for that very reason?

Fireball07

New management aside, well done to Richie Mc! Well-deserves his All-Star, had a brilliant year!

dzilla

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

that handpassing game doesn't really suit us

No it was not suited.....like ya need the hurlers for his style

thinkstoomuch1

Fireball07 wrote: »

DOG + TJ, with Lyons & Hannon is what is being reported. There would be maybe room for somebody else there...like Cunningham? Hopefully.




That's not what I meant, I thought someone said that he had retired from work......and so was free to manage who he liked?





Lyons was fitness coach this year under Allen iirc.

And Joe Hannon is Declan's father, was liason officer this year too, I think.




It would be a coincidence. And with all the people saying that Considine was taking over...... if he is gone too, that's just another one.

I actually think the handpassing game could work against Clare. You need to run at them, a short game could expose them.


But a mix, and an ability to adapt is what we need, surely? Sometimes we play better when we can release the ball quick into the likes of Downes, Mulcahy, Tobin...but if they're being marked out of the game, running from deep through Hannon, Dowling, Browne, O'Brien, etc can carve teams open.

Heard from a kanturk man,considine was gone,and n jerome o connell twitter,said considine on the move.

I dont know where.

Lyons and hannon any good?

Fireball07

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Heard from a kanturk man,considine was gone,and n jerome o connell twitter,said considine on the move.

I dont know where.

Lyons and hannon any good?

Lyons seems to be highly-rated, and I wouldn't have had any complaint with our fitness last year... it wasn't the reason we lost to Clare. And against Tipp, we dug deep to pull out a win.

As for Hannon.... I have no idea what a liason officer does tbh. I think he was a hurley-carrier too, but I don't know what involvement he had in training tbqh.

rebel girl 15

Fireball07 wrote: »

Lyons seems to be highly-rated, and I wouldn't have had any complaint with our fitness last year... it wasn't the reason we lost to Clare. And against Tipp, we dug deep to pull out a win.

As for Hannon.... I have no idea what a liason officer does tbh. I think he was a hurley-carrier too, but I don't know what involvement he had in training tbqh.

Liasion officer is basically to talk to the players and be that link between players and management and county board, and ensure that all the players needs are taken care of.

Quixoticelixer

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

would it have been possable that he had been offered the job but turned it down because the backroom team was allready set in stone

i taught o grady turned down the job weeks ago for that very reason?

O'Grady was offered the job the weekend before last, had agreed to take it, and pulled the plug the next day. My understanding was that it was down to issues with backroom team.

Maybe, O'Grady told the board he would only take it if Cunningham was brought on board? Cunningham resigns from Cork, all of a sudden O'Grady is back on board as he got his man? I still don't see why Cunningham would leave his current role with Cork for anything other than a managerial role!

mickmackey1

Fireball07 wrote: »

well done to Richie Mc! Well-deserves his All-Star, had a brilliant year!

Yep, huge congrats, only the 23rd Limerickman to ever win an All-Star and first in 6 years

J. McKenna 6
P. Hartigan 5
G. Kirby 4
E. Cregan, L. Enright, C. Carey - 3
E. Grimes, J. Quaid, M. Houlihan, M. Foley - 2
J. O'Brien, S. Foley, R. Bennis, L. O'Donoghue,
P. Fitzmaurice, P. Kelly, T. Quaid, D. Clarke
D. Quigley, B. Murray, O. Moran, A. O'Shaughnessy
Richie Mac

Fireball07

Lots of full-backs there...for such a specialist position. Hartigan and Enright won 8 between the 2.

peepee

That's not what I meant, I thought someone said that he had retired from work......and so was free to manage who he liked?

AFAIK He did, took a package from Bord Gais (he may still do some ambassador work for them?). Looks like we'll have to wait for the meeting tonight.

Grats

Quixoticelixer wrote: »

Cunningham please, O'Grady did fine in 2011, steadied the ship after a turbulent previous year with Justin and laid a bit of a foundation, but that handpassing game doesn't really suit us, didn't work v Dublin in 2011, and it wouldn't be very effective against Clare's style of play.

I can't imagine Cunningham would have resigned from Cork unless he was offered the managerial position, why would he move from Cork to Limerick to take up exactly the same position? Unless his resignation is just one massive coincidence?

Agree with you. If O'Grady does come back he must achieve more than a Munster title, otherwise he will be seen as a failure. He won't even have a promotion from 1B task this time - whether that's good or bad for him, who knows. A break from the media circuit will he good for him though as he was turning sour in recent times. We'll find out his true worth this time around. No players discontent to muddy the waters.

Quixoticelixer

Not a fan of the co-manager idea at all, particularly given the gap in age and experience between the two. O'Grady will be naturally viewed as the senior partner, hopefully TJ won't feel he has to compensate for this by imposing himself on matters. It's important to have a clearly defined chain of command, TJ and DOG may agree on most things, but they won't agree on everything- what happens then?

O'Grady only stayed for one year the last time, and it took the county board a long time to convince him this time around (first approached him in September), how much does he really want to do this job?

Why go with an experimental managerial set up at a time when we are Munster champions and have a panel of players who can realistically make a strong challenge for the All-Ireland in the next few years?

I'm guessing, O'Grady will actually act as assistant to Ryan. Which I wouldn't be pleased with, but I can kind of see the logic in it, TJ on his own not really a runner yet, DO'G would be assistant with a focus on mentoring TJ and helping him learn the ropes, if 2014 goes well, give it to TJ on his own for 2015.

Regardless of how this O'Grady/Ryan partnership is set up, I think it is the wrong appointment at this moment. I'm happy enough to allow them to prove me wrong however.