The Union Council Thread

Squaw Crow

I think next's year pride week will have more union involvement due to USI

princess_calico

Duddy wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on Union Involvement in Pride Week?

I think it's a great idea! I have heard some people saying that they weren't happy about it, but whatever way you look at it, the LGBT are a society and every society is entitled to have events- for example the Samba society are also organising a load of stuff this week too. I think the Union should get more involved in any events that are held by societies in order to break down the barrier that seems to exist between the Union and students.

Duddy

oh yeah I agree, I ask only because I had a few people coming up to me complaining about the lack of Union Involvement in Pride Week. Its kinda a debatable issue, because while its about LGBT Welfare, its also a society event, so it might like favouritism from the Union.

I've been told that it would be possible to mandate the campaigns committee to help out, so I'm just seeing what people would think of a motion:p

princess_calico

Duddy wrote: »

oh yeah I agree, I ask only because I had a few people coming up to me complaining about the lack of Union Involvement in Pride Week. Its kinda a debatable issue, because while its about LGBT Welfare, its also a society event, so it might like favouritism from the Union.

I've been told that it would be possible to mandate the campaigns committee to help out, so I'm just seeing what people would think of a motion:p

That'd be an absolutely fantastic idea! I wish I had more of a chance to give a hand with the organising, because there are some great events going on but not enough people know about them

Jayo4Prez

The Clubs and Socs are the first point of contact that a lot of Students have with the University from a social point of view. Even if it was done as an 'ear to the ground' effort, it would be a worthwhile exercise. In an effort to ovoid the favouritism argument, get involved in all of the clubs and socs who are interested. Problem solved. People meet the Union, as they should, on ground on which they are comfortible and the Union learns, rather than assumes, what is required.

Duddy

Anyone know when next UC is?

CnaG

April 20th isn't it?

Duddy

oh cool, thanks:)

CnaG

Anyone want anything brought up at the last UC of the year?

So far I've got:
:pac: Access to all-student email list for SU exec/Sabbat officers
:pac:... that's it so far

TheManHimself

This is a great idea...making the union council more relevant is crucial

Duddy

*resurrects*

Next UC is the 14th I believe.

Food served after, have agenda items in on or before the 10th:)

banquo

Someone asked why The Print is printed in Manchester and not Ireland. I'm on leave this week for personal reasons but I know some of the people who were curious post here, so I'll back up and add to the answers given there:

1. It's the only place that prints the product I wanted: a full-colour Berliner size newspaper.

2. We went with them because I thought a paper was better for NUIM than a magazine. Irish presses can only do part-colour, specifically the outside pages, in colour.

3. We would have had to assemble it ourselves if printed in Ireland. There simply isn't time in the day to do this. The three sabbats basically work a 60+ hour week already. It's true. My own "print" weekend is usually a 60 hour slog.

4. A 24 turnaround time. So it stays current as possible.

I'll post more later, friends have arrived!

BarryDoodles

And the t-shirts were out-sourced aswell...

Will the union exec be supporting any Irish jobs this year or just organising a stroll up a street in Dublin with Gary Redmond?

funky penguin

Are you being naive or just trolling?

banquo

I think we both know the answer to that.

BarryDoodles

Neither.

I've been vocal about my opinions on U.S.I on the relevant thread and on facebook. So I took a cheap shot at Rob.

I thought I would point out that the out sourcing of the paper was part of a trend. Which I feel is a valid point.

If I was trolling, I would point out that the stroll didn't do much good. Washington D.C may be a better place to go for a walk. http://www.imf.org/external/np/exr/map/index.htm

As for the issue at council, its is clearly both a political and religious issue from which a humanitarian issue arose.

I feel, if my citizens were decended from concentration camp refugees and their children's school buses were the favourite target of suicide bombers then I feel I would be justifably paranoid.

But these are merely my opinions.

irish_goat

Most economists would disagree with you on the paper issue Barry...

LeixlipRed

irish_goat wrote: »

Most economists would disagree with you on the paper issue Barry...

To quote Kieran Allen at the IMF debate the other evening, "most right-wing economists, let's not kid ourselves, most economists are right-wing...."

irish_goat

LeixlipRed wrote: »

To quote Kieran Allen at the IMF debate the other evening, "most right-wing economists, let's not kid ourselves, most economists are right-wing...."

Barry Doodles is right wing...

Regardless, left wing politics and free trade go hand in hand usually.

LeixlipRed

I was making the point that you can't trust economists. They're not impartial as some would have you believe.

irish_goat

Numbers do not lie.

BarryDoodles

irish_goat wrote: »

Barry Doodles is right wing...

.

From April this year.

mickstupp

irish_goat wrote: »

Numbers do not lie.

The numbers in my exams last year would suggest I have a clue. In fact they'd suggest I know exactly what's going on in my course. But numbers do lie sometimes.

Norrdeth

@LeixlipRed, did you really have to bring BarryDoodles' political affiliations into the debate about paper with reference with a current event?

I think not, saying who's leftrightupordown does not fix arguments, only expands them. Most people can't see past this.
Please continue with the concerns of outsourcing.

manna

irish_goat wrote: »

Numbers do not lie.

but more often than not, they are misinterpreted.

funky penguin

BarryDoodles wrote: »

Neither.

You're not naive and you were definitely trolling. Stop it.

Back on the topic everyone. Debate the posts not the poster.

LeixlipRed

Norrdeth wrote: »

@LeixlipRed, did you really have to bring BarryDoodles' political affiliations into the debate about paper with reference with a current event?

I think not, saying who's leftrightupordown does not fix arguments, only expands them. Most people can't see past this.
Please continue with the concerns of outsourcing.

Read the posts again, I commented on what Irish Goat said about economists. He mentioned it about Barry. Or did you just read what you wanted to?

Duddy

Last chance to put in stuff for next UC is tomorrow's close of business,
UC will be on Tuesday:)

Duddy

Minutes from NUIM Students Union, Union Council:

Union Council: 2
Date: Tuesday, 30th of November 2010.

Council Members Present:

Brendan Albrecht, 1st German.
Bernadette McDonnell, 2nd Medieval Irish.
Audrey Peel, 1st Psychology.
Aisling Connolly, 2nd Psychology.
Cheryl Reid, 4th Biomedical Science.
Felipe Loughran, 1st Music Tech.
Gene Carolan, 3rd Law and Arts.
Fiach O’Neill, 3rd Music Tech.
Kellie Fagan, 2nd English.
Leanne Sharkey, 4th year Biology.
Peter Carroll, 1st Computer Science.
Fiona Allen, Law 1st Year.
Grace Crehan, 3rd Medival Irish.
Katie H Jackinson, 1st Theology.
Andrew Linnie, 2nd BMus.
Lisa Marie Graham, 3rd Social Policy.

Exec Present:

Declan Meenagh, Finance Officer.
Aengus O’Maolain, President.
Elizabeth Murray, VP Welfare and Education.
Michael Hughes, St Pats Rep.
Kyle O’Regan, Clubs Officer.
Pat Byrne, Ents Officer.
Sinead Mauwe, Societies Officer.
Ruaidhrí Boland, 1st Rep.
Robert Dixon, Post Rep.
Caoimhghín O’ Caoláin, Irish Officer.

Apologizes Received:

Leonie M Delaney
Jennifer McDonnell
Davin Convey (RO Team).
Katelyn Whelan O’Halloran.
Katie Dobosz.



Derek Maher, Acting Returning Officer (ARO) welcomes everyone to UC and reads out agenda
Adoption of Agenda
Adoption of previous Minutes
Guardianship members – They are:

Philip O Callaghan, Chairperson
Ian Russell, Secretary
Susan Caldwell
Ronan Barry
Ciaran O Carroll
John McKenna
Paul Mullally


Correspondence – None.

Aengus Ó Maoláin (AOM) welcomes Ruaidhri Boland, First Year Rep. and Robert Dixon, Post Graduate Rep to Union Council.

Clubs and Societies Names

Micháel Hughes: I would suggest we change names of clubs and socs from NUIM to Maynooth, Would be better as includes St.Pat's Students. I would like support from UC to go ahead and encourage this.

Andrew 2nd Bmus: Is it a good idea, when people already have hoodies and logos, how to incentivise this?

MH: I just want to put groundwork down for next couple of years. Want to see it progress.

AOM: A lot of clubs and societies just happen to be getting new websites anyway. Perfect time for them to change. MUCK is an example of a successful name. Most of the smaller clubs and nearly all socs should be able to do it

Niteline
Liz Murray (LM): On another topic:the agenda for next UC, Niteline was brought up last year as there was no feedback on costs, volume etc., information was provided during the summer, but not as much as we requested. I still support the motion that we disaffiliate from Niteline, I'll be sending something with the agenda.











Clubs and Societies Names cont.

MH calls a motion:

Motion: Union Council will encourage the changing of Club and Society names to a variant of Maynooth/Maynooth University... across the course of the year.

-Seconded by AOM

21 In Favour
0 Against
1 Abstention

Motion is passed.


Andrew 2nd BMus, The print is printed in Manchester, instead of an Irish press, perhaps under current circumstances, we might support Irish industry.

AOM: Fair point, Rob Munnelly is not here, its a formatting issue, the actual size of the print is only done in that press, next closest one is Czech Republic.

LM: The prices and quotes from printers in Ireland for that size would be thousands of euros more, per issue.
AOM: And would be printed half in colour and half in black and white.
LM: And we would have to assemble it ourselves.


PARKING

AOM:
A lot of people complaining about the email from director of corporate services, next issue of the Print will have something on it. Union last year put in submission about measures.
Number of issue: 2000 people trying to park in 1000 spaces. People who aren't students parking in college. People driving from Parsons Street, Meadowbrook etc.
Basically doing nothing is not an option, email gave the impression that people will be paying lots.

The Canteen and Callan building car park, will be pay and display. 150 in SU carpark for those with permits, Auxillia carpark will be staff permits, ones around college will be permit for staff and students. Ones on ring road will be for those carpooling.

Main thing is that its not as bad as people think it is. Article in the print will explain more clearly. Tell people what's happening to stop people overreacting.

Grace Crehan (GC):
Will the money from permits be put into road maintenance?

AOM: will say to director of Corporate Services.

Dave Assistant RO:
Will there be the same number of permits as parking spaces?

AOM: not at the minute, system is based on NUIG, basically having a permit system will bring down numbers anyway.

LM: Don't underestimate the amount of people who arent students, dont think there will be as much of an issue as people think there will be. Specific spaces will help.

Kelly Fagan(KF): How can we cycle when there are no cycle lanes, cars parking in them etc, will this be fixed?
AOM: Yes, there will be a network of cycle routes internally, eg. from residences to union.
A large % of profit will be reserved by new terminals for bikes. At union, new apartments etc
Cyclepaths on the ringroad are not cyclepaths anymore, they will be changed and new ones put in.

Andrew Bmus: Will the permits be for the car or student?
AOM: to the student.

Lisa: What about placement students?
AOM: One can buy a permit for a semester

GC: Will the permits be for 24/7?
AOM: 9-6
AOM send questions to president@nuimsu.com and I'll answer next time, I'll invite Mr.Fitzmorris, Director of Corporate Services to next Union Council

Theology Ball
MH: Theology ball may be postponed.


AOB
ARO: next UC is 14th, email by 5pm on the 10th. Will use polls for next semester, one to decide when.
GC: Everybody add Union Council on Facebook.

AOB
Gene Carney: Will there be working group reports?
LM: yes, there will be.


END

Duddy

Union Council tomorrow at 1.30 in the Venue, please be early!:D


Agenda:

Adoption of the Minutes:

Adoption of the Agenda:
1. NUIM Director of Commercialisation.
Mr Frank Fitzmaurice, Director of NUIM Commercialisation, will present a report on the new parking system.

2.Vice President, Elizabeth Murray:
↘Niteline
↘Welfare working group
↘Education working group
↘Political marches / activity

3.Environmental Committee:

(a) The aims of the Environment Committee shall be to
i) Calculate the carbon footprint of the Union
ii) Make suggestions to Union Council reduce the carbon footprint
iii) Identify national campaigns for the environment, which the Union can support.

(b) Membership shall consist of:
i) 2 members of the executive
ii) 3 class reps
iii) Other students co-opted by the committee as necessary

(c) Meetings will be open to all Union members who will have speaking rights

(d) The committee shall meet at least once per semester and report back to Union Council as necessary.

4.Minimun Wage Cuts:
That Maynooth SU condemns the cut in minimum wage and will campaign on this issue where possible.

5.Request from NUIM President

6. Blocking of Social Network sites on the Internet:
Blocking of "Facebook" on Library computers.

7. Maynooth SU Support:
Mental Health Society Blues Week World Record.


Guardianship:

Correspondence:

Presidents Report:
The Report was sent to all class reps last week in email form.
AOB: