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Women that play Texas Holdem

  • 15-02-2010 3:02am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭


    As a girl that has played numerous tourneys over the past 6 years, I sometimes wonder why more women dont play? True it is a male dominated game in Ireland at present but I am still at a loss as to why more women are not playing.
    Personally I believe that men are easier read than women. For some reason I find that most (not all) men seem to think that girls just dont bluff, or that women are not capable of understanding the power of position.
    I remember my first BIG tourney, 300 started approx 5 women, anyway as the number dwindled a very agressive male player arrived to the table, after observing him for a number of hands it was my turn in the big blind, I looked down at AK Clubs suited. The said male was the dealer and he raised 3x my big blind, so I just flat called him, flop A 9 Q rainbow, so I checked, he raised me all in which would have been 10x the pot???? So I called, he turned over Q 3, I turned over my AK and he went absolutely ballistic at the table that I just flat called his raise, said that I had no clue what I was at!! Anyway turn and river were blanks for him and he went out 3 hands later. Ten minutes later he was giving out to his friend behind me as to what a b*tch I was??? and that women should not be allowed in the game. I laughed as he underestimated me or over estimated himself. I went to final table chip leader and finished 3rd with a very very healthy payday.
    I lurrrve playing against men that think that women are stupid and have no idea or read on the game and I firmly believe that women are harder to read than men........do you agree??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    flat calling with AK in the BB, against a button raise in the late stages of a tourney is pretty bad, lol stupids wimmins:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Freyja wrote: »
    firmly believe that women are harder to read than men........do you agree??

    I do agree.
    It's difficult to understand how someone else feels and to gauge how will react when they barely have a handle on that themselves.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Men :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Rb


    Two men entering two large, separate Womens Events in 2009, dominating the field and winning says all there needs to be said about women & poker imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 631 ✭✭✭ootbitb


    Freyja, seems like you will need to start your own "women only need reply" thread.

    I know plenty males use female avatars online, but maybe that's just fetishism:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭Whyno


    Freyja wrote: »
    As a girl that has played numerous tourneys over the past 6 years, I sometimes wonder why more women dont play? True it is a male dominated game in Ireland at present but I am still at a loss as to why more women are not playing.
    Personally I believe that men are easier read than women. For some reason I find that most (not all) men seem to think that girls just dont bluff, or that women are not capable of understanding the power of position.
    I remember my first BIG tourney, 300 started approx 5 women, anyway as the number dwindled a very agressive male player arrived to the table, after observing him for a number of hands it was my turn in the big blind, I looked down at AK Clubs suited. The said male was the dealer and he raised 3x my big blind, so I just flat called him, flop A 9 Q rainbow, so I checked, he raised me all in which would have been 10x the pot???? So I called, he turned over Q 3, I turned over my AK and he went absolutely ballistic at the table that I just flat called his raise, said that I had no clue what I was at!! Anyway turn and river were blanks for him and he went out 3 hands later. Ten minutes later he was giving out to his friend behind me as to what a b*tch I was??? and that women should not be allowed in the game. I laughed as he underestimated me or over estimated himself. I went to final table chip leader and finished 3rd with a very very healthy payday.
    I lurrrve playing against men that think that women are stupid and have no idea or read on the game and I firmly believe that women are harder to read than men........do you agree??

    Fancy a game of heads up strip poker???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    So you got lucky in a pot where you played poorly and now you're Jen Harmen and all men are Jamie Gold... OK. That's for the heads-up, I'll remember never to get involved in a pot with a woman again in case she reads my soul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    Read the rest of this girls posts... hate men much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭whatever73


    Read the rest of this girls posts... hate men much?

    LOL, issues for sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,055 ✭✭✭Four of a kind


    whatever73 wrote: »
    LOL, issues for sure


    a few issues :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    A lot of people here are being sexist. Being sexist is wrong..................


















    and being wrong is for women :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Rb wrote: »
    Two men entering two large, separate Womens Events in 2009, dominating the field and winning says all there needs to be said about women & poker imo.

    Who?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭gorrrr72


    Lady raise, me no play;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    Mellor wrote: »
    flat calling with AK in the BB, against a button raise in the late stages of a tourney is pretty bad, lol stupids wimmins:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

    It wasnt a late stage in the game...there were about 100 left in the tourney...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    Read the rest of this girls posts... hate men much?

    Ahhhh now I love men.....we all have our flaws!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭a148pro


    I think your average female player is slightly better than your average male player, but generally because they're tighter, which generally makes them easier to play against. I do think they bluff a lot less too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Freyja


    So you got lucky in a pot where you played poorly and now you're Jen Harmen and all men are Jamie Gold... OK. That's for the heads-up, I'll remember never to get involved in a pot with a woman again in case she reads my soul.

    Nope I'm not Jennifer Harman...I dont like her style of play, I didnt get lucky either I had the best hand pre flop (he made a 3x raise into my big blind with a Q3 off suit!) and I had the better hand on the flop. The gentleman that I was playing was an agressive player, so I let him bet and play like I knew he would.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Aw yeah!

    pokerbabe_sandra-naujoks-2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ootbitb wrote: »
    I know plenty males use female avatars online, but maybe that's just fetishism:D
    Yeah that's true, but the reason for this is so that other women mistake them for women. Whichs makes them think that women cam play poker and they end up losing their money
    Freyja wrote: »
    It wasnt a late stage in the game...there were about 100 left in the tourney...
    that doesn't make the play any less terrible, again, lol wimmins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    Freyja wrote: »
    Nope I'm not Jennifer Harman...I dont like her style of play, I didnt get lucky either I had the best hand pre flop (he made a 3x raise into my big blind with a Q3 off suit!) and I had the better hand on the flop. The gentleman that I was playing was an agressive player, so I let him bet and play like I knew he would.

    You don't like the best, (and I don't even think it's close) female cash game player in the world style but it's cool to make your play.

    I'm not having a go be you've give one hand as an example of why women are better at reading than men.

    But apart from that, good luck, I hope your success continues.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 338 ✭✭ElectraBlue


    a148pro wrote: »
    I think your average female player is slightly better than your average male player, but generally because they're tighter, which generally makes them easier to play against. I do think they bluff a lot less too.


    LOLOLOLOLOL! :rolleyes: Come along to Carfax's Ladies Championship on 20th March... we will have you re-writing that statement. Freya is just one of many.

    Bluff?!!! :eek: Oh...You are right. I don't bluff at all... :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 640 ✭✭✭Par72


    I think there is absolutely no excuse for having "women only" poker tournaments these days. The playing field is totally even in poker whether you be male or female.

    Rb, the fact that some men have entered and won "women only" poker tournaments does nothing to suggest that men have superior poker playing ability as far as I'm concerned. There are many examples of women triumphing in poker tournaments where the vast majority of participants were male.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    Par72 wrote: »

    Rb, the fact that some men have entered and won "women only" poker tournaments does nothing to suggest that men have superior poker playing ability as far as I'm concerned. There are many examples of women triumphing in poker tournaments where the vast majority of participants were male.

    Right on!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Harman


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Daithio9


    There's a belief amongst most poker players that wimmin poker players are weak tight, the OP's story just reinforces that belief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭a148pro


    LOLOLOLOLOL! :rolleyes: Come along to Carfax's Ladies Championship on 20th March... we will have you re-writing that statement. Freya is just one of many.

    Bluff?!!! :eek: Oh...You are right. I don't bluff at all... :D:D:D

    hmmm not sure if you understood what I said, I actually said women are better players.

    not allowed play carfax's tournie unfortunately, not eligible. case with equality tribunal pending


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    So you got lucky in a pot where you played poorly and now you're Jen Harmen and all men are Jamie Gold... OK. That's for the heads-up, I'll remember never to get involved in a pot with a woman again in case she reads my soul.
    YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE SHOVANISTIC PIG AND I HAV A PAIN IN MY FACE WITH YOU GOING ON BOARDS AND RUNNING PEOPLE INTO THE GROUND! IT WOULD SUIT YOU BETTER TO STAY IN YOUR ROOM AND PLAY ONLINE AND KEEP YOUR OPPINIONS TO YOURSELF BECAUSE IF THATS THE BEST HEAP OF BS YOU CAN COME OUT WITH THEN NOBPDY WANTS TO HEAR IT.U NEVER HAV A GOOD THING TO SAY SO IN FUTER JUST SHUT YOUR CAKE HOLE!!!! OH AND IM LIZ WHO U TRIED TO DOG ON THE OTHER SITE.......ASS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    You've got me wrong, I think you're lovely.

    Also, what does this mean? "SHOVANISTIC", looked it up but can't find anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    You've got me wrong, I think you're lovely.
    you dont even know me! im so mcross at you! i would love to meet u in person! u never have a good word to say about anything!:mad: who are you!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    If you don't like me why would you want to meet me? Doesn't make sense.

    Also, look at my posts, in the other forum too, you'll see I'm actually a nice guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    If you don't like me why would you want to meet me? Doesn't make sense.
    to choke u would be an option but i wouldnt waste my energy! to see if your as nasty and hoorid in real life obv and to see if youd be so quick to bitch about ppl and things if u werent hiding behind a screen name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    Na, I don't bitch, like I say you got me wrong. But that's okay, reading one or two posts of mine might give you the opinion that I'm a bit of a prick. But it's only a laugh.

    Anyway in an effort to stay out of pubs I've started playing live, if I bump into you I'll say hello. But no rough stuff, you seem to be always very aggressive toward me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    Na, I don't bitch, like I say you got me wrong. But that's okay, reading one or two posts of mine might give you the opinion that I'm a bit of a prick. But it's only a laugh.

    Anyway in an effort to stay out of pubs I've started playing live, if I bump into you I'll say hello. But no rough stuff, you seem to be always very aggressive toward me.
    i wonder y,i like the way u shirk off goodluck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    I've never been agro to you before, so there is no reason I'd start now.

    I'm also not sure what I'm evading except telling you my name.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    I've never been agro to you before, so there is no reason I'd start now.

    I'm also not sure what I'm evading except telling you my name.
    no u werent aggressive u just tried to run me into the ground.much better.to be honest i couldnt give a continental what your name is,i would only need it to avoide you and your sarcy attitude so dont flatter yourself thinking id loose any sleep over you. AGGRESIVE ENOUGH FOR U?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    I asked a serious question of you, wasn't even insulting. I gave my opinion on your opinions. If you're going to be on radio and in the media in general you have to accept that. I'm sorry if you took such offence to it but I had a question on an interview you did as part of a radio broadcast. I thought it was fair enough, sorry if you disagree.

    Not sure if it's worth coming to blows over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭westlife2010


    Does (or should) gender matter? This is not a physical sport/game so there should not be any gender advantage. It really is down to how much experience each PLAYER has and their individual style of play. I really hate the "shes ok for a woman" comments when it comes to poker. Lets not be PC about it because that is insulting. If their good their good and if bad (wait for it!) their bad, man or woman. Why should anybody differentiate between the sexes? I think it is only in the last 2 years that a large flow of women are starting to break ranks from the smaller games and getting involved in the male dominated 'festival' arenas. To say which gender are the better players is pointless. Yes men are, and will for the foreseeable future, finishing in most of the payout positions in all the events. But when most of the field are men this is going to happen. I will honestly say that the vast majority(95%ish) of the players that I would consider 'top notch' are men. But I would also say that the vast majority(98%ish) of the players that I would consider 'shocking fish'....... are men!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    God you absolutely butchered that hand OP.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,956 ✭✭✭CHD


    Serious sexual tension ITT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭fatguy


    Wow, this place has really gone to the dogs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 768 ✭✭✭wannabecraig


    It was always fairly poor tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    Freyja wrote: »
    As a girl that has played numerous tourneys over the past 6 years, I sometimes wonder why more women dont play?

    cant find a big enough kitchen??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    I asked a serious question of you, wasn't even insulting. I gave my opinion on your opinions. If you're going to be on radio and in the media in general you have to accept that. I'm sorry if you took such offence to it but I had a question on an interview you did as part of a radio broadcast. I thought it was fair enough, sorry if you disagree.

    Not sure if it's worth coming to blows over.
    u didnt ask a question you made a comment which said i was disrespectful towards other players and the glamour of the poker scene had gone to my head! you dont even know me! then you come on here being a shovanist? whats the story? have you nothing better to do with your time than degrade other people?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 218 ✭✭westlife2010


    aceswild wrote: »
    u didnt ask a question you made a comment which said i was disrespectful towards other players and the glamour of the poker scene had gone to my head! you dont even know me! then you come on here being a shovanist? whats the story? have you nothing better to do with your time than degrade other people?
    what was his question and how are you letting bubbleking away with that post 2 slots up! And Damo72 says he thinks your all lesbians!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭aceswild


    what was his question and how are you letting bubbleking away with that post 2 slots up! And Damo72 says he thinks your all lesbians!
    now now phil dnt rise me! that guy was the 1 we were talking bout on the show,hes so condecending he thinks hes jesus christ superstar :) obv thats your title,basically he thinks im an aggressive ho bag! and as 4 the kitchen remark..........men are like floor tiles,lay them down once and you can walk all over them :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 pok3rdude


    In my point of view, it depends on the person playing.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭][cEMAN**


    If she'd raised pre flop, agressive player or not, do you think he would have went all in at the flop?

    I know there are 'rules' on how to play the game, but you can't play the game like a machine. There are methods, and then there's reading people.

    Probably was luck, or she may have just read him spot on. Maybe she caught him.

    I'd also agree, i've not read this forum in a while, but if I were to go on this thread alone this place looks like it's scraping the inside of something not too pleasant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Freyja wrote: »
    Ten minutes later he was giving out to his friend behind me as to what a b*tch I was??? and that women should not be allowed in the game. I laughed as he underestimated me or over estimated himself. I went to final table chip leader and finished 3rd with a very very healthy payday.

    By any chance was his name Phil Hellmouth(last name misspelt on purpose)? :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    aceswild wrote: »
    now now phil dnt rise me! that guy was the 1 we were talking bout on the show,hes so condecending he thinks hes jesus christ superstar :) obv thats your title,basically he thinks im an aggressive ho bag! and as 4 the kitchen remark..........men are like floor tiles,lay them down once and you can walk all over them :)

    does your husband know your on his computer while hes out working all day?? :pac: :pac:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    Freyja wrote: »
    As a girl that has played numerous tourneys over the past 6 years, I sometimes wonder why more women dont play? True it is a male dominated game in Ireland at present but I am still at a loss as to why more women are not playing.
    Personally I believe that men are easier read than women. For some reason I find that most (not all) men seem to think that girls just dont bluff, or that women are not capable of understanding the power of position.
    I remember my first BIG tourney, 300 started approx 5 women, anyway as the number dwindled a very agressive male player arrived to the table, after observing him for a number of hands it was my turn in the big blind, I looked down at AK Clubs suited. The said male was the dealer and he raised 3x my big blind, so I just flat called him, flop A 9 Q rainbow, so I checked, he raised me all in which would have been 10x the pot???? So I called, he turned over Q 3, I turned over my AK and he went absolutely ballistic at the table that I just flat called his raise, said that I had no clue what I was at!! Anyway turn and river were blanks for him and he went out 3 hands later. Ten minutes later he was giving out to his friend behind me as to what a b*tch I was??? and that women should not be allowed in the game. I laughed as he underestimated me or over estimated himself. I went to final table chip leader and finished 3rd with a very very healthy payday.
    I lurrrve playing against men that think that women are stupid and have no idea or read on the game and I firmly believe that women are harder to read than men........do you agree??

    It sounds to me like that guy was just a bully and figured that he could bully his way through and increase his chip count just using that tactic..

    I think maybe the fact that he lost to you bruised his ego even more as he was probably thinking, you're "just a woman".. I've seen idiots like this arrive at tables with big stacks of chips and even bigger egos.. most tend to be out after a few hands.

    Back on topic, my company had an annual poker tournament every year and even though this place is a literal sausage fest, probably about 15% of the employees are female, less than half that enter the tournament, but you're almost guaranteed to see at least 1 or 2 girls in the final 10..

    Girls who know the game are very good players and I wouldnt under estimate any of them.. but I think a lot of guys do exactly that simply because as the OP pointed out, its a male dominated game in Ireland..

    If you can hold your own and excel in the game, good for you.. using the advantage that most guys do underestimate a woman is a nice one to have, wish I had it sometimes.. :D


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