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gnfnrhead

Wouldnt have been so bad if he had someone to break his fall but it was a full on crash and burn. Couldnt believe anyone would do something like that, let alone someone in his worn down condition.

gnfnrhead

Random fact: Magnus was 17 when the current WWE Champion won his first World title, and is 18 years younger than the number one contender for Wrestlemania.

For all the shit TNA get, they constantly try and keep the main event scene fresh now.

Machismo Fan

A pretty cool deal this (t'would be cooler were it New Japan but alas we'll take what we can get):

TNA EXPANDS RELATIONSHIP WITH WRESTLE-1 | IMPACT WRESTLING SUPERSTARS TO HEADLINE MARCH SPECIAL EVENT IN JAPAN

Building on the popularity of its programming internationally, TNA announced it will send 11 of its Superstars to Japan for a special event with Wrestle-1, founded by the legendary Keiji Mutoh (The Great Muta), on March 2 at the Ryogoku Kokugikan Sumo Arena.

The event will feature matches pitting members of the TNA roster against Wrestle-1 talent. Cameras will capture all the action and the footage is scheduled to broadcast as a One Night Only Pay-Per-View (PPV) event later this year.

“The Japanese have an incomparable respect and appreciation for professional wrestling,” said TNA Executive Vice President John Gaburick. “As TNA continues our global expansion, we are honored to partner with Mutoh and Wrestle-1 to give our fans an exceptional night of unparalleled entertainment. We envision a long and successful relationship with Wrestle-1, as we partner to deliver innovative live events and programming for our fans across the U.S., in Japan and around the world.”

The TNA Superstars scheduled to appear on March 2 include World Heavyweight Champion Magnus, Bobby Roode, Samoa Joe, Gail Kim, Austin Aries, Abyss, Kaz and Daniels, Madison Rayne and the recently signed The Wolves, Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards.

Additionally, Mutoh, along with Wrestle-1 star Seiya Sanada, will be in Miami March 8-9 for Lockdown, where they are scheduled to participate in Fan InterAction and the Pay-Per-View event.

IMPACT WRESTLING and TNA PPV events air in Japan on Nippon Television Network’s channel G+.

rovert

Karen Jarrett be trolling with AJ's shoot interview:

rossie1977

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Random fact: Magnus was 17 when the current WWE Champion won his first World title, and is 18 years younger than the number one contender for Wrestlemania.

he was 3 years old when sting won his first world title and yet needed the entire heel roster to help him win in his last title defence

gnfnrhead

rossie1977 wrote: »

he was 3 years old when sting won his first world title and yet needed the entire heel roster to help him win in his last title defence

Magnus beat Sting clean (via submission too) at BFG a couple of months back

Besides, thats the character. He thinks he's great but constantly needs help. Hence why Angle, Joe etc all call him a paper champion.

Mr.Saturn

Well, yeah, it's been hit on, but the one boon of TNA's financial misfortunes is that it's really opened up the roster for the younger lads to square into the upper-tier of proceedings.

Granted, TNA's record of making its own stars isn't the greatest, or well, promoting their own stars adequately; Styles, Joe et al, have enjoyed plenty of support in the past. Mind, 2011/12 with Roode/Storm, proved that they can do it when it pleases them.

rossie1977

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Besides, thats the character. He thinks he's great but constantly needs help.

which is not a way you should be building your champion because
a. nobody will care when he eventually drops the title
b. nobody will be elevated when they beat him for the title
c. he will be at the same level coming out of this as he went in (just like sabin and aries were before him)

robbie e could beat magnus next week and nobody would bat an eyelid

gnfnrhead

rossie1977 wrote: »

which is not a way you should be building your champion because
a. nobody will care when he eventually drops the title
b. nobody will be elevated when they beat him for the title
c. he will be at the same level coming out of this as he went in (just like sabin and aries were before him)

robbie e could beat magnus next week and nobody would bat an eyelid

It's been done hundreds of times before, and it works. Once it doesnt go too long (Jarrett's near year long title reign) it is an effective way to keep the guy as a solid heel.

On top of that, he has been champion for about a month. It's a bit quick to be making any of those claims. It takes time for a character to develop. If, in four months time, Magnus is still having the same matches then you will be right. But the way he has been acting suggests he wont be sticking to the same route and will soon be wanting to do it by himself to prove he can be the top guy. It's basic booking that works well if timed correctly.

Penn

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Just heard about this photo from the Manchester TNA show. Why are TNA still letting the bloke moonsault from cages? pic.twitter.com/pQ9nAmum7F

Loughc

One of the biggest reasons why WWE released (or mutually released Angle if you believe his version) Angle was they were worried about his health and how he wouldn't tone down his in-ring style and they were worried if he kept going at the pace/style he was going he one day wouldn't be able to walk out of a WWE ring.

It seems like TNA has no problem letting him push himself so hard as he is such a big name for TNA and they badly need him and the exposure he can bring.

eireannBEAR

Loughc wrote: »

One of the biggest reasons why WWE released (or mutually released Angle if you believe his version) Angle was they were worried about his health and how he wouldn't tone down his in-ring style and they were worried if he kept going at the pace/style he was going he one day wouldn't be able to walk out of a WWE ring.

It seems like TNA has no problem letting him push himself so hard as he is such a big name for TNA and they badly need him and the exposure he can bring.

Angle chose to leave,he actually took a pay cut to join tna as the wwe were over booking him which had a negative impact on his health!!

If he were still in the wwe he would be in worse condition.

Loughc

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Angle chose to leave,he actually took a pay cut to join tna as the wwe were over booking him which had a negative impact on his health!!

If he were still in the wwe he would be in worse condition.

As I said Angle's and WWE's versions of events differ greatly on this matter.

I'm not saying either one is right. Judging by the condition Angle is in now, it doesn't look good tho.

gnfnrhead

I'd be very tempted to take him off house shows until after Lockdown at least. That gives him a good six weeks to rest up a bit.

rovert

PWInsider:

As we noted last week, Kurt Angle gutted his way through the TNA UK tour with a knee injury and is slated to undergo surgery shortly after he returns to the United States. The surgery was originally planned for late January but was pushed back by Angle so he didn't miss the TNA tour after Jeff Hardy was unable to go and Sting left the company, leaving Angle as the biggest "name" on the roster.

During the Glasgow, Scotland tapings, an angle was shot where Angle was beaten with steel chairs, which appears to be where he is written out of TNA storylines.

The next day in Manchester, Angle was informed by TNA Creative that he was slated to do a run-in during a segment. Sources indicated that Angle hit the roof because he had already been written out of storylines and because he was working despite doctor's orders to not do anything physical due to the impending surgery. John Gaburick was said to have been on the wrong end of Angle's rant and in the end, Angle did not work that taping.

However, an angle was filmed at the Wembley Arena where Angle, after accepting his TNA Hall of Fame induction, ends up in a physical confrontation with Ethan Carter III and announces he will wrestle Carter in a cage at Lockdown.

So, unless the angles were filmed out of sequence, it appears TNA is expecting Angle to gut through the Lockdown PPV as well.

gnfnrhead

Is it a major surgery, or just something small? TNA are probably expecting him to have fully healed up by then if his previous form is anything to go by. Cant remember him missing more than a month (bar the rehab) since he joined the company.

SimonQuinlank

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Angle chose to leave,he actually took a pay cut to join tna as the wwe were over booking him which had a negative impact on his health!!

If he were still in the wwe he would be in worse condition.

Angle chose to leave WWE alright,but only because they told him to take time off to rest his body and to attend rehab to get himself clean because the regular sight of him sitting in a drugged up stupor in the locker room before and after his matches began to worry them such a short amount of time after Eddie's death,and the resultant bad publicity that followed.

Angle said sod that and signed for a company that obviously doesn't give a flying fúck about their wrestlers physical and mental wellbeing.

WWE won't touch Angle with a barge pole because he's such a liability nowadays, even though his return to the company would be a bigger deal than the likes of Jericho,RVD or Batista's recent returns over they last few years.

gnfnrhead

SimonQuinlank wrote: »

Angle chose to leave WWE alright,but only because they told him to take time off to rest his body and to attend rehab to get himself clean because the regular sight of him sitting in a drugged up stupor in the locker room before and after his matches began to worry them such a short amount of time after Eddie's death,and the resultant bad publicity that followed.

Curious to know where that came from.

rovert

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Curious to know where that came from.

Bryan Alvarez in the F4W newsletter wrote on 10/2/06:

World Wrestling Entertainment fired Kurt Angle because he had drug issues. I don’t think some people understand the gravity of that statement. This was not WWE seeing that Angle was in pretty bad shape and refusing go to rehab. This was a situation where he was not going to handle the problems and they were afraid that he was going to die, perhaps very soon, under their watch. As I wrote several weeks back when he was first fired, a number of people in WWE stated the exact same thing, that he was the worst anyone had ever seen, worse than Shawn Michaels at his peak and worse than Brian Pillman (who died due to his issues). Angle’s behavior in the final weeks prior to his firing was said to be incredibly worrisome, from dozens and dozens of text messages sent to creative every day to major paranoia to massive mood swings backstage. WWE at one point had to hire handlers to get him to buildings since he was unable to do so on his own. There were people who looked the other way for awhile since as bad as he was outside the ring he was fine once the bell rang. But then, during an ECW show, he dropped RVD on his head and nearly hurt him seriously. There were times when he had to be taken through airports in a wheelchair. And two separate WWE sources stated very explicitly that their belief was that he had serious mental health issues. Everything finally came to a head in that Friday afternoon meeting four weeks ago, and WWE fired him.

Apparently Kurt was run up the wall by Karen Angle ringing and texting him wanting to know where he was and what he was doing. She suspected correctly Kurt was having an affair with Dawn Marie.

Riddle101

That stuff with Kurt Angle, reminds me of Bret Hart when he was injured by Goldberg. Even after he was injured WCW continued to book him and pitch him idea, despite telling him they would give him time off. But all the time, they would keep coming to him trying to get him to do stuff. TNA really need to let the guy rest, nobody should have to work like that.

eireannBEAR

Riddle101 wrote: »

That stuff with Kurt Angle, reminds me of Bret Hart when he was injured by Goldberg. Even after he was injured WCW continued to book him and pitch him idea, despite telling him they would give him time off. But all the time, they would keep coming to him trying to get him to do stuff. TNA really need to let the guy rest, nobody should have to work like that.

No,As a massive wcw fan i can tell you that never happened wcw were not aware of his condition he hid it from them.

Riddle101

eireannBEAR wrote: »

No,As a massive wcw fan i can tell you that never happened wcw were not aware of his condition he hid it from them.

That's what I read in Hart's book anyway.

eireannBEAR

Riddle101 wrote: »

That's what I read in Hart's book anyway.

I know he lied,Hart tends to do that a lot you know.

Whosthis

eireannBEAR wrote: »

I know he lied,Hart tends to do that a lot you know.

Any proof that he lied?

Riddle101

eireannBEAR wrote: »

I know he lied,Hart tends to do that a lot you know.

So how do you know he hid it from them?

Loughc

eireannBEAR wrote: »

No,As a massive wcw fan i can tell you that never happened wcw were not aware of his condition he hid it from them.

How do you know he hid it from them?

eireannBEAR

Riddle101 wrote: »

So how do you know he hid it from them?

Vince russo said he hid and other wcw staff said he concealed the injury from the companies doctor lying his way through an examination.

Loughc

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Vince russo said he hid and other wcw staff said he concealed the injury from the companies doctor lying his way through an examination.

So you're taking Vince Russo's word over Bret Hart's?

How do you not know he's lying?

Riddle101

eireannBEAR wrote: »

Vince russo said he hid and other wcw staff said he concealed the injury from the companies doctor lying his way through an examination.

So Russo's word is better then Hart's?

Either way it doesn't excuse what's going on with Kurt Angle. TNA know of his problems, yet they still want to book him. Personally I think they should take him off the UK tour and give him some time to get the surgery and have time to rest and rehab.

rovert

Rather the clanger here after all the hype and campaigning from Alpha Female: