Over, around and through

Oisin11178 · 23-03-2011 03:00PM

Garmin is ****ed. Its going back tomorrow hopefuly.
I have a nice 10 mile route measured with the garmin tha goes along the coast and ends in collins avenue near parnell park. Plan wasto run it and turn around on the spot and do 20. Had no real pace in mind but ~8 minmiles was a rough target. I knew the first 4 mile markers so i would press lap toget feel of the pace. Then press at 10 miles and get a time for the next 6 and average it. Do the same coming back and get splits for the last 4 to see how trong i was finishing.
8.16
8.22
8.15
7.48
Ignored the watch at this point and kept the pace of the 4th mile. I went 50 metres past where the 10 miles usually beeps for aguments sake.
5-10 came in @ 46.30, 7.45 average. Turned round int a bit of a headwind and i thought it slowed me down. I was deffo working harder and i thought i was slowing down. I pressed lap after the next 6 and it was 46.30 haha:D
The second 46.30 was deffo alot harder with a bit of a breeze. With the breeze out of my face i picked up the pace without knowing.
Last 4 miles
7.22
7.34
7.47
7.18

7.48 average for the 20 miles and not feeling bad at the end.
Great day for a run.

Brianderunner · 23-03-2011 03:08PM

Have you contacted Garmin saying you want to get it fixed. They get back to you about a week later with an unique reference number and you send it to Southampton for repair. I got a brand new one in the post 6 days after i sent it off. Press them for a code if they dont get back to you, i'd still be waiting for mine if it wasnt for my insistence.

Oisin11178 · 23-03-2011 03:21PM

Yeah getting onto them today. There must be about 20 ways of resetting it. Tried them all with no joy:(

Oisin11178 · 24-03-2011 03:17PM

22 Miles @ 8.42 a mile.
clongriffen to blackrock and a few times up and down the peer. very very hot.
Did this run with ken so niall can stop worrying about him now:D

opus · 24-03-2011 03:23PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

Yeah getting onto them today. There must be about 20 ways of resetting it. Tried them all with no joy:(

They were pretty quick to get back to me with an RMA code cause I said in the ticket I opened that I'd tried all the various reset options. You might save one email exchange if you put your address (where you want them to send it back to) & your phone number in the ticket when you open it.

Paid a visit to the post office at lunchtime to post my one off. Gas that they're all dying around this time, thankfully I've got three weeks 'til I'd really like to have it back.

menoscemo · 24-03-2011 05:10PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

22 Miles @ 8.42 a mile.
clongriffen to blackrock and a few times up and down the peer. very very hot.
Did this run with ken so niall can stop worrying about him now:D

Have you any plans for any kind of taper?

How many stops did you have to take with Ken?

Oisin11178 · 24-03-2011 05:40PM

Not as bad as usual only about 3 stops for water. taper starts now. ken says hes going to drink you under the table in limerick.

menoscemo · 24-03-2011 06:00PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

Not as bad as usual only about 3 stops for water. taper starts now. ken says hes going to drink you under the table in limerick.

Class news on the two nights in a hotel eh? I knew if we stuck together we would win out. 'We shall overcome' etc etc....

Oisin11178 · 27-03-2011 08:05PM

18 miles in 8.15 Average.
70 miles for the week off 4 runs:D
Absolutly faboulous day for running. Roll on connemara im ready:D

theboyblunder · 27-03-2011 09:18PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

18 miles in 8.15 Average.
70 miles for the week off 4 runs:D
Absolutly faboulous day for running. Roll on connemara im ready:D

good stuff, reckon you are going to have a stormer frank

Oisin11178 · 31-03-2011 08:19PM

went out to do 20 with the mate ken. Both our garmins were measuring every mile way short. We were running about 8.15-8.30 pace and it was registering as 9 min miles and over. Very very annoying. Must be a prob their side cause both our garmins were like yo-yos with the pace.
We sussed a course that we have done before and it should have been spot on 20. Wasnt even 19 when we got to the finish. We persevered until the garmin said 20 but it was kinda annoying.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/76371063
A few miles registering over 9 mins:eek:
I reckon we did just over 21 in the end.

Krusty_Clown · 31-03-2011 11:11PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

Must be a prob their side cause both our garmins were like yo-yos with the pace.

There is no 'their side'. All the information received by your watch comes from US government satellites that orbit the earth. So unless the US government are plotting against you (have you done something to piss them off?!), then it's co-incidence that they were both reading wrong, or else you both didn't wait long enough for a good signal before starting, or else some of the US satellites were rebooted.

So, what's the goal for Connemara?

Oisin11178 · 31-03-2011 11:17PM

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

There is no 'their side'. All the information received by your watch comes from US government satellites that orbit the earth. So unless the US government are plotting against you (have you done something to piss them off?!), then it's co-incidence that they were both reading wrong, or else you both didn't wait long enough for a good signal before starting, or else some of the US satellites were rebooted.

So, what's the goal for Connemara?

I think its going to be abou 5.40, i think thats managable. Dont wanna set the sights to high and fall apart. Should get to 26.2 in fairly good nick at that pace or maybe those words will be on my gravestone:D

Oisin11178 · 01-04-2011 10:56PM

10k very handy. Cant remember the last tim i ran just 10k
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/76551328

Oisin11178 · 03-04-2011 06:13PM

10 miles handy. Went outon a full stomach to try and mimic the conditions n onn when i eat on the run. Took me about 5 miles to settle, stomach was doing cart wheels. s i go more comfotable the pace dropped for no extra effort.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/76975614

Oisin11178 · 04-04-2011 08:26PM

15 miles at about 8.15. Dont have stats as i forgot my garmin and we used kens.
Cant wait for the weekend now, im finding that sort of pace very very comfortable at the moment:D

liamo123 · 04-04-2011 09:06PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

15 miles at about 8.15. Dont have stats as i forgot my garmin and we used kens.
Cant wait for the weekend now, im finding that sort of pace very very comfortable at the moment:D

Good running Frank...Bring it on :eek:

Aimman · 04-04-2011 10:40PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

15 miles at about 8.15. Dont have stats as i forgot my garmin and we used kens.
Cant wait for the weekend now, im finding that sort of pace very very comfortable at the moment:D

I take it you might be starting to taper by Saturday afternoon at this rate?

Oisin11178 · 04-04-2011 11:11PM

haha 15 is fcuk all Eamonn:D
Yeah just 2 more small runs now:D

hf4z6sqo7vjngi · 04-04-2011 11:45PM

You are a bloody machine.

Oisin11178 · 05-04-2011 11:24PM

HAd to go to a funeral this morning so took an extra rest day.
I think ive decided to do the 100k in portumna. Have to have a think about stratagy for it. All advise is welcome:D

Aimman · 06-04-2011 12:31AM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

I think ive decided to do the 100k in portumna. Have to have a think about stratagy for it. All advise is welcome:D

You're getting a thirst for the Ultras now!

Best advise is to get this one out of the way first and see how you feel about pushing it up to 100k.

I'll be lashing into the training for this as soon as Conn is over, using the pacing as a way of keeping the LSRs up but I'll be looking at trying out a run/walk strategy to keep me moving for the whole thing. Plan at the moment is Run 5M, Walk 1M, repeat nine times.

But I'll have to start working it into long training runs to see how it feels.

If you plan to run for the whole 100k, you might need to talk to the likes of woundedknee to give you better pointers. Better still, there'll be a heap of people to ask at the start line on Sunday.

Oisin11178 · 06-04-2011 04:14PM

Aimman wrote: »

You're getting a thirst for the Ultras now!

Best advise is to get this one out of the way first and see how you feel about pushing it up to 100k.

I'll be lashing into the training for this as soon as Conn is over, using the pacing as a way of keeping the LSRs up but I'll be looking at trying out a run/walk strategy to keep me moving for the whole thing. Plan at the moment is Run 5M, Walk 1M, repeat nine times. But I'll have to start working it into long training runs to see how it feels.

If you plan to run for the whole 100k, you might need to talk to the likes of woundedknee to give you better pointers. Better still, there'll be a heap of people to ask at the start line on Sunday.

I always intend to run all te way but maybe 100k isa bit 2 far.
I dont intend on taking any deliberate walking breaks but i will take small breaks at the aid stations for nutrition. Maybe 1 min at a time. I sont know what a good goal time for 100k would be for me. Is 10 hours quick for 100k?

Oisin11178 · 06-04-2011 08:46PM

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/77605091
10k handy, probably the same tomrrow and then rest:D

Aimman · 06-04-2011 10:57PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

Is 10 hours quick for 100k?

You'll have a better idea after the 40M on Sunday.

Oisin11178 · 07-04-2011 09:54PM

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/77796543
10k very hand again. Found it very hard to kep the pace down. Starting to feel good. Thats me till Sunday:D

mithril · 07-04-2011 10:12PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

I think its going to be abou 5.40, i think thats managable. Dont wanna set the sights to high and fall apart. Should get to 26.2 in fairly good nick at that pace or maybe those words will be on my gravestone:D

Oisin, have you target times for the half marathon splits or are you going to run by "feel" on the day and take whatever comes?

This kind of warm, humid weather, if it persists, will make for a very enjoyable run but will have challenges if you are going for a fast time. It's easy to mis-calculate how much fluid to take on - either too much or too little will give trouble. Don't forgot to have some kind of electrolyte in the drop pack if its very humid.

Really looking forward to the race reports, particularly for the ultras.

Oisin11178 · 07-04-2011 10:51PM

mithril wrote: »

Oisin, have you target times for the half marathon splits or are you going to run by "feel" on the day and take whatever comes?

This kind of warm, humid weather, if it persists, will make for a very enjoyable run but will have challenges if you are going for a fast time. It's easy to mis-calculate how much fluid to take on - either too much or too little will give trouble. Don't forgot to have some kind of electrolyte in the drop pack if its very humid.

Really looking forward to the race reports, particularly for the ultras.

Was thinking 1.52, 1.52 and as 1.55 maybe. I know ill lose a bit n the couple of big climbs in he last third but keeping the pce down to 8.30 for the first 26.2 miles i should have something left in the tank for the last third. If i get those splits it should bringme in at 5.39.
Ill be carrying 8 gels with me and dropping off some energy drink and a bite to eat(mars bar or pancake) at 3 of the later drop stations. Its a cae of suck it and see tobe honest but im confident:D

mithril · 07-04-2011 11:50PM

Oisin11178 wrote: »

Was thinking 1.52, 1.52 and as 1.55 maybe. I know ill lose a bit n the couple of big climbs in he last third but keeping the pce down to 8.30 for the first 26.2 miles i should have something left in the tank for the last third. If i get those splits it should bringme in at 5.39.
Ill be carrying 8 gels with me and dropping off some energy drink and a bite to eat(mars bar or pancake) at 3 of the later drop stations. Its a cae of suck it and see tobe honest but im confident:D

Have a look at the split pattern for last year of the finishers
http://www.connemarathon.com/results

What you are planning is possible if you are running very comfortably within yourself for the first 26 miles, but very few managed such an even split pattern last year. Hills, injury, accumulated muscle damage, congestion from the half marathon runners, dehydration all make it very difficult to maintain the same pace in the final third of the race as is possible earlier.

Oisin11178 · 08-04-2011 01:24AM

mithril wrote: »

Have a look at the split pattern for last year of the finishers
http://www.connemarathon.com/results

What you are planning is possible if you are running very comfortably within yourself for the first 26 miles, but very few managed such an even split pattern last year. Hills, injury, accumulated muscle damage, congestion from the half marathon runners, dehydration all make it very difficult to maintain the same pace in the final third of the race as is possible earlier.

Yeah i agree. There is an unknown element. I ran a 50k in january in prep for this on a very undualating course and maintained the same pace to the end which was 8 min miles so i know i can go 30+ and maintain a pace. The 30 secs slowdown should hopefully enable me to be stronger than i felt in january. I totally agree its going to be very very hard but i think ive prepared well and its time to see what i can do:D

Over, around and through

Comments